Happening in yemen its very hard to communicate if as i did you see a 5 year old child very hard to communicate if as i did you see a 5 year old child dying of malnutrition because she called to the feeding center too late of dying of malnutrition because she called to the feeding center too late how do you communicate that people dont understand they dont know how do you communicate that people dont understand they dont know where you have money is hardly and theres very little reporting of it suddenly on television where you have money is hardly and theres very little reporting of it suddenly on television i mean we used to be able to have a much wider compass in the old days but none are used to be able to have a much wider compass in the old days but now. You havent asked for not exist for you hear about it and youre right now. You havent budged will not exist for you hear about it and youre right it is against some fierce competition i think in the worlds most to kill it is against some fierce competition i think the worlds most acute humanitarian crisis thats what the u. N. Is saying again very difficult to constitute humanitarian crisis thats what the u. N. Is saying again very difficult to comprehend 12300000 children these are your unicef figures in danger to brand 12300000 children these are your unicef figures in danger 2000000 thats acute malnutrition 360000 under the age of 5 would you think 1000000 thats acute malnutrition 360000 on the age of 5 i do think partly its because the reporting in prior conflicts from famines and so on partly because the reporting in prior conflicts and famines and so on made things worse why exactly is communicated now and made things worse why exactly is communicated now. Because it is so remote from peoples daily lives and i believe that because it is so removed from peoples daily lives and i believe that our media generally print Radio Television have become much more told pa. Than billy print read they did a mere television istic have become much more useful is being malacca consoler turned with the silly stick a brick in of his of the news of the molecular celebrex asian of the news agenda in the that there were wars going on on. Dan dan and the aussie aussie a yemen which are virtually unreported in my experience so what exactly is yemen which are virtually unreported in my experience so what exactly is the situation you were there before the the us u. K. That ailment fled the situation you were there before the the us u. K. Bad omen fled the war had already started between the whos the rebels and the and that the war had already started between the whos the rebels and the and the and the government i was there at the time before it intensely and the government i was there at a time before it intensified and we felt 6 and a half 1000 children killed in a fight and we felt 6 and a half 1000 children killed or wounded in the last 3 years. It is hard or wounded in the last 3 years. It is hard to communicate because i think a sort of compassion fatigue sets in and people tend to communicate because i think a sort of compassion fatigue sets in and people dont seem to be as interested in the wider world as they used for the point of view of a unit seem to be as interested in the wider world as they used for the point of view of you know. I think we just have to keep at it and who says its also very done to him best i think we just have to keep at it and who says its also very dangerous news organizations are. And dont want to riches news organizations are. And dont want to risk or to take the risk of sending people to these dangerous places that they go to school or to take the risk of sending people to these dangerous places that they go to syria they go to very dangerous places. I mean syria they go to very dangerous places. I mean a news editor at one of our mainstream brokers and theyre not going to be sitting there suzanne that are at one of our main street broker theyre not going to be sitting there seeing the feed because theyre afraid pictures of the famine coming through in color and so on seeing the feed because theyre free bitches of the famine coming through and color and so on and them just going you know modern baby on about this and them just going you know modern baby on about this but we shouldnt put this on the headline of the news syria is is is in its but we shouldnt put this on the headlines of the news syria is is is an interesting perspective and lloyd treats of of the times who to me is the best interesting perspective and lloyd treats of of the times who to me is the best war correspondent now approaching where 3 years ago and coming out of a war correspondent now operating with a few years ago and coming out of aleppo he got kidnapped by his old mind own mind shot in both aleppo he got kidnapped by his old mind own mind shot in both his ankles and was very lucky to survive and all the other would be rolled war reporters took his ankles and was very lucky to survive and all the other would be rolled war reporters took. Notion of that a lot of reports of gun are from across the border a notion of that a lot of reports of gun are from across the border 2030 miles distance from fairly safe places but of course unicef 2030 miles distance from very safe places but of course unicef are in yemen this is one of the reasons i love them theyre there are in yemen this is one of the reasons i love them theyre there with partners i mean they are theyre active on the ground and with partners i mean they are theyre active on the ground and very very few organizations are because havent been intimidated out of it very few organizations are because havent been intimidated out of it. You know i support them because they are there theyre there before and you know i support them because they are there theyre there before the cameras arrive and theyre there after the cameras leave and thats true of a lot of other countries too or the cameras arrive and theyre there after the cameras leave and thats true of a lot of other countries too do you fear for yourself. Still off do you fear for yourself. Still off live i fear for the stuff especially the recruited stuff in it locally recruited i fear for the stuff especially the recruited stuff in it locally recruited stuff its there its there its their country and there are a lot of stuff its there its there its their country and there are a lot of un staff have been killed kidnapped there. In un staff have been killed kidnapped there in somalia in south sudan i dont think weve been living in such a judge somalia in south sudan i dont think weve been living in such a generous time in all the years i was reporting most but again another time in all the years i was reporting most but again another super the tip of the health the World Health Organization claiming for a superlative the health the World Health Organization claiming 1000000 suspected cholera cases the worst cholera outbreak in history 1000000 suspected cholera cases the worst cholera outbreak in history i was shattered when i saw those figures im sure that im i was shattered when i saw those figures im sure theyre im sure theyre right theres no theres no Disease Control theres very little actual there right as no theres no Disease Control theres very little sanitation and fresh water these are the conditions in a relatively waterless country annotation and fresh water these are the conditions in a relatively waterless country in which disease flourishes and the fact that it was a cold in which disease flourishes. And the fact that it was a old british colony that doesnt help get the message through it was part of it was in a british colony that doesnt help get the message through it was part of it was an old british colony if you remember there were 2 yemens dolphin size and the british colony old british colony if you remember there were 2 yemens north and south and the british colony was was south yemen and of course the british were involved in the was was south yemen and of course the british were involved in the in the late sixties rather than a tory slate in the i think you got to be quite old as i in the late sixties rather than a tory sleigh in the i think you got to be quite old as i am to remember when it was a ive actually be to the bridge cemetery in agent south yam to remember when it was a ive actually be to the bridge cemetery in agent south yemen beautifully kept but its all such a long time ago and only old people im a beautifully kept but its all such a long time ago and only old people like me remember the precious link the un itself has said in september me remember the precious link the un itself has said in september claiming that the british. May be complicit in war crimes claiming that the brits. May be complicit in war crimes. Do you think that its difficult now for unicef i know oxfam as jews do you think that its difficult now for unicef i know oxfam has been particularly on the line about attacking government is it difficult in particularly on the line about attacking government is it difficult for n. G. O. S right now to remain politically impartial in such a conflict it is to hold for n. G. O. S right now to remain politically impartial in such a conflict it is difficult and at this point i will take off my unicef at spirit allowed to do that i mean other for gold and at this point i will take off my eunice. At spirit allowed to do that i mean allowing myself to do that i think weve reached a point firstly not for the but the are in myself to do that i think weve reached a point firstly not for the but the unions have had long when we have seriously to impose a total ban parents have had one when we have to seriously impose a total ban on arms sales to the saudis because the targeting of the society of force on arms sales to the saudis because the targeting of the society of force has been as shall we say approximately in the last 3 years i actually result has been as shall we say approximately in the last 3 years i actually resigned from an Advisory Committee of a and it was funny company because they were vine from an Advisory Committee of a and it was funny company because they were about to get involved in this i said no this is called stop but as you know the British Government says that the get involved and as i said no this is called stop but as you know the British Government says it has one of the most robust arms control regimes in the world when it has one of the most robust arms control regimes in the world when it comes to exporting arms and indeed appealed the decision in the courts here that it comes to exporting arms and indeed appealed the decision in the courts here that attempted to stop u. K. Arm sales well again with my unicef offer attempted to stop u. K. Arms sales well again with my unicef hats off i would say that we have a robust regime of selling arms until we differ i would say that we have a robust regime of selling arms until we dont and suddenly you find things a slipping through which shouldnt. And suddenly you find things a slipping through which shouldnt. Ive got to ask you finally on a question aside from unicef we are headed for general good us who finally on a question aside from unicef we are headed for a general election maybe that will have an impact on policy on yemen i dont know if you were the 1st election maybe theyll have an impact on policy on yemen i dont know if you were the 1st independent m. P. Since 951 who was elected as everyone independent m. P. Since 951 who was elected as everyone now talking about independent candidates did you pave the way for these new him and independent now talking about independent candidates did you pave the way for these new him and independent candidates not aligned to any political i was able as a managed to get him of unicef out iran did its not aligned to any political i was able as a managed to get him of unicef off in the last months i mean i was the i was the 1st independent to just set off in the last months i mean i was the i was the 1st independent as you say for nearly 50 years i should say that used to anti corruption. I did a finale 50 years i should say that used to anti corruption. I did indeed and i had sort of the time id done a bit of good im not sure in the long term that i did but indeed and i had sort of the time id done a bit of good im not sure in the long term that i did but now there are there have been about 35 of them and i think its a very good talking about will be out so there are there have been about 35 of them and i think its a very good time involved they are supporting him are they on the independence of the Comeback Campaign launched on on saturday theyre supporting him were they on the independence of the Comeback Campaign launched on on saturday theres a lot to be said on the present votes how states of politics they have members of parliament who represent what should be said in the present vote its our state of politics they have members of parliament who represent the people and not the party bottom bell thank you well now lets go just run out and the people are not the party bottom bell thank you well now. Lets go to some in yemen to hear from a journalist who was witness to atrocities in yemen firsthand hussein because he joined yemen to hear from a journalist who was witness to atrocities in yemen firsthand hussein because he joins me now hussein thanks for coming back on just remind us what the role of bunce we know thanks for coming back on just remind us what the role of britain has been in yemen 1st of all there is a political role voted. Has been in yemen 1st of all there is a political role voted the. U. K. In the war on yemen by supporting saudis in the u. K. In the war on yemen by supporting saudis in the International Community and the Human Rights Panel that you and as only you and security and National Community and the Human Rights Panel that you and others only you and Security Council and theres a military role with. Channel 4 counsel and theres a military role with. For a report have said that the british. Can side by side reports have said that the british. Can side by side with the times today they will not be able actually without that help they want to be able to conduct that massive strikes on yemen as well their main support actually is when the United Kingdom has blocked that too to conduct that massive strikes on yemen as well their main support actually is when the United Kingdom has blocked that oft twice to form an International Investigation that oft twice to form an International Investigation team to be sent into yemen you see the British Government says it wants to say scenting to be sent into yemen you see the British Government says it wants to sell more arms to saudi arabia which of course are then used to bomb. Yemen they back something called the joint Incident Assessment Team i know the United Nations is criticize them but they they say for instance the bombing of an m. S. F. Hospital was a mistake where is i think you and others claim that something called the joint Incident Assessment Team and i know the United Nations is criticize them but they they say for instance the bombing of an m. S. F. Hospital was a mistake where is i think you and others claim that there is a deliberate attempt at killing civilians by british back there is a deliberate attempt at killing civilians by british back governments in yemen i dont believe it could be called the government in yemen i dont believe it could be called a mistake because there will actually should not be i mistake to try to get to a hospital mistake because that will actually should not be i mistake to try to get to a hospital. Im well aware that the. Hospitals are here in. A way that the. Hospital here in yemen marked on as well as the coordinates out of it being given yemen marked on as well as the coordinates out of it being given to the to be on the Saudi Led Coalition i believe that thats all he actually is you. Got to be on the Saudi Led Coalition i believe that thats all he actually is used in this coded given to deliberately thought to get those also because they have thought to get food in this could have given them to deliberately thought to get those also because they have thought to get some as it is the heart of with cluster bombs i believe its an iowa city the heart of with cluster bombs i believe that the 3 years ago they have thought a good School Inside of in many cities that the 3 years ago they have thought a good School Inside some. In many cities they have targeted all roads all infrastructure power station the war in yemen actually is a big mistake putting it all roads all infrastructure power station the war in yemen actually is a big mistake on unite can do actually should not. Be and this can unite can do actually it should not. Be and this and this world in yemen more than 15000 has been killed by direct strike 200 in this world in yemen more than 15000 has been killed by direct strike 280000 give many civilians many of them children have died from but eventually 80000. 00 get many civilians many of them children have died from but event of a disease like malaria and put it out unicef have saved one child die every 10 minutes because it is like malaria and put it out unicef have saved one child die every 10 minutes because of this but even to build diseases that has actually only come after this over the war of the us but even to build diseases that has actually only come after this only the war on blockade on yemen so i believe that yemenis will not forgive forget located on yemen so i believe that yemenis will not forgive forget what they might kingdom has done to them because if there was no support tonight to condemn all the us what they might kingdom has done to them because if there was no support tonight you can do all that you as i didnt think thats how the colonial war against yemen well it sounds well from this i do think thats how the colonial war against yemen well made sons of front here Doctors Without Borders may not like them but who is then the u. K. Back jointed to dence assess where Doctors Without Borders may not like them but who is then the u. K. Back joint incidents Assessment Team actually this is a team that is appointed by saudi arabia so you can imagine team actually this is a team that is appointed by saudi arabia so you can imagine what type of person has been appointed there so do they have actually been brought up pointed what type of person has been appointed there so did they have x. What i pointed that the team that has assassinated. Them on no one team that has assassinated. Them and no one knows what is his body i believe that they will not come to any. What is his body i believe that they will not come to any decision to directly condemn or directly held the saudi account then to directly condemn or directly held the saudi accountable well saudi arabia this week hosts an Investment Conference called the double well saudi arabia this week hosts an Investment Conference called the davos in the desert bank of america the schroeders brazil solved in the desert bank of america or the schroeders brazil solved the b. B. C. s nick gowing trumps on the north. Citi group has been the b. B. C. s nick gowing trumps on the. Citi group may just be secret sweet will i am pop store owner all these banks the secret suite will i am pop store. Are all these banks there because theres money to be made out of the bombing of yemen yeah of course as long as there is water because theres money to be made out of the bombing of yemen yeah of course as long as this war in yemen weve seen that the United States and United Kingdom out of deals as daughter in yemen weve seen that the United States and United Kingdom out of deals is depend on creating conflict on wars in many areas they start with afghanistan bent on creating conflict on wars in many areas they start with afghanistan by supporting al qaida and i believe those type of meetings and so did bring in many by supporting al qaida and i believe those type of meetings and so we did bring in many businessmen or our bubble started or if there are 2 saudi arabia is is because the businessmen or our bubble started or if there are 2 of the at. Is is because thats all we. Call it is milking cows because all we. Call it is milking cows because saudi have money because so you have the oil thats why i believe saudi will continue with saudi off money because so you have the oil thats why i believe saudi will continue in its war on its primary against them and there was a record 5 percent in its war on its primary against them and there was a record 5 percent increase in oil prices on the day of the hoofy retaliation increase in oil prices on the day of the hoofy retaliation on the around of the city in saudi arabia when should we expect the next on the around the vicinity in saudi arabia when should we expect the next strikes on Saudi Oil Facilities to be honest. Strikes on Saudi Oil Facilities to be honest im not sure but i can tell you if there will be an attack thats going to come it will be i can tell you if there will be an attack thats going to come it will be a huge and major attack and it could break saudi because. Major attack and it could break saudi because. They have announced about 2 months ago a truce from one side i havent heard in sanaa they have announced about 2 months ago a truce from one side until now the saudi has not responded to those to those that is. Until now the saudi has not responded to those to those that is not our port which exports 95 percent of the Saudi Oil Production and you can imagine which exports 95 percent of the Saudi Oil Production and you can imagine if and i decided to look to take that puerto if and i decided to look to take. That i believe that you would be devastated devastated got abia i believe that you would be devastated devastated so we got a bia they believe that the world will come to end if United States believes they want to believe that the world will come to end if United States believes they want to keep it on in saudi come by or that type of law but we invite the saudi ambassador to britain and so saudi comes by all the type of lobbies but we invite the saudi ambassador to london and of course all these bankers and people that visit the us and that in london and of course all these bankers and people that visit the us in the desert this week that alone will i am onto this show for saying albuquerque thank you the desert this week that alone will alter this show for saying albuquerque thank you thank you very much after the break as india prepares to formally divide general and given a much after the break as india prepares to formally divide general and kashmir amid ongoing violence what has been the legacy of lord mountbatten 40 years kashmir amid ongoing violence what has been the legacy of lord mountbatten 40 years since his assassination by the ira all the similar coming up about to him going on because since his assassination by the ira all the similar coming about to him going on the ground. If. Play. Play. Play play. Play. Please. Please. Slow slow slow. Slow slow slow. Slow. Slow. And very well might continue watching on since last. And very well might continue watching on since last. Welcome back today 51 years ago the british queen and her husband paid a visit to brazilian fast welcome back today 51 years ago the british queen and there has been paid a visit to brazilian fascist costa a silver then responsible for some of the worst atrocities against civilians join the country. Then you can respond to the military that we did take to get a ship that is now but is against royal said likely pretty and join the countrys years of u. K. U. S. Backed military dictatorship nowadays royals like prince harry more likely to go to Rugby World Cup finals in japan than arguably prop up in prince harry more likely to go to Rugby World Cup finals in japan than arguably prop up imperial war crimes but as violence continues in kashmir between Nuclear Armed competence and miri a war crimes but as violence continues in kashmir between Nuclear Armed competence a new book has been published about a participant in British Colonial rule the mountbatten their libel has been published about a participant in British Colonial rule the mountbatten their lives and loves is by one of britains most successful the tree agents and biographers Angelo Nieves and loves is by one of britains most successful the tree agent and biographers andrew loney he joins me now and youre welcome back to going underground i know its 2019 but he joins me now and youre welcome back to going underground i know its 2019 but a book about my own bat and youre still found it difficult as you say in the book its a book about my own bat and youre still found it difficult as you say in the book to get some of the official papers from the government that have still not been released to get some of the official papers from the government that have still not been released about mountbatten yes i mean theres a lot that still closed and there are certain paid about mountbatten yes i mean theres a lot that still closed and there are certain papers where we think hes involved like the can core boys home papers that would be released last year where we think hes involved like the can. For boys home papers that would be released last year and i was told they would be released but they wouldnt give it to me until last year and now theyve been i was told they would be released but they wouldnt give it to me until last year and now theyve been closed again but they had to child abuse allegations later in the story but that closed again but they had to child abuse allegations later in the story but thats just just one of the other ways or does the other. National is there to cure the National Security that they hide behind National Security and Data Protection and International Relations and relations with the software they hide behind National Security and Data Protection and International Relations and relations with the sovereign i mean they have a whole series exemptions they deploy but yes the still carry economy they have a whole series exemptions they deploy but yes this still clearly a cover up going on and it was extraordinary thing is that public funds we used to buy the patent are up going on and it was extraordinary thing is that public funds were used to buy the baton diaries and letters. In lieu of tax for them and those papers are still recent letters. In lieu of tax for them and those papers are still remain closed to this day only in the. Later in the book because i do want to go to the glamorous beginning to look at it were lord ennen who used to be provost of University College one remain close to this day when the he later in the book was i do want to go to the glamorous beginning to look at it were lord ennen who used to be provost of University College london you heard him as saying there were is that about the king or a boy you could him is saying there were is that about the king or boys or war or is that about a bob or a tempting to cook who are going to have heroin or wills. Well well i mean hes involved i think in both i mean the coup i mean 68 against wilson he always did i think in both i mean the coup i mean 68 against wilson he always denied his involvement but it is quite quite clear when they are you know when you know now look at the pic at the paper its. And trying trying to late the late the correspondence that they basically he was very involved he actually put up candidates including the hindrance that they basically he was very involved he actually put up candidates including the head of her Hammer Horror films as a possible member of the edge of her cabinet powerful as a possible member of the cabinet room up very much but had had a very very high sense and sense of his own. Achievement and role and thats his qualities his own. Achievement and role and this is his qualities and he felt he could be Prime Minister and he loved this idea of being in charge of of this National Government and he felt he could be Prime Minister and he loved this idea of being in charge of of this National Government but of course he says its edwina his wife who is but of course he says its edwina his wife who is on the left and hes on the right so and you explore that in the book and great on the left and hes on the right so and you explore that in the book and great yes well i would say he was on the right he was very progressive in his views i think in some ways he was very keen yes well i would say he was on the right he was very progressive in his views i think in some ways he was very keen as a Public Servant as a naval officer not to be seen to be involved but time and time again he cant help as a Public Servant as a naval officer not to be seen to be involved but time and time again he cant help himself so he threatens to resign during sewage as 1st see lord hes very self so he threatens to resign during sewage as 1st see lord hes very against appeasement and rights to even when he resigns so he does get involved but against appeasement and rights to even when he resigns so he does get involved but i think it we know is the one clearly who was almost a communist and i think it wiener is the one clearly who was almost a communist and she in fact has a fall on her because of her communist associations profile by the f. B. I. Has a fall on her because of. Communists associations of fire by the f. B. I. Yup and you know i mean that he has a fall too but for other things i mean around the world up in that i mean that he has a fall too but for other things i mean around the world and certainly viewers watching this in india and kashmir and certainly viewers watching this in india and kashmir will know mountbatten for one thing the mon batten plan to just go through the fact that george is the 6th king george the 6 and his cousin will know more about him for one thing the mon batten plan to just go through the fact that george the 6th king george the 6 and his cousin. And. Endless. Has been done on the fact that the today the problems in kashmir partly mount battens fault yeah i think so today the problems in kashmir partly mountbatten is fault yeah i think so i mean. He said he sentence is in. Heaven with with the instruction to been to bring about in to put independence by june 148 but i think when he gets there he realizes its not just him over the stands by june 148 but i think when he gets there he realizes its not just him others do as well that unless they give it depends much more quickly theyll be nothing to do as well that unless they give in depends much more quickly will be nothing to give it a butchers thors is diminishing the i. C. s is no longer the force it was the butchers thorgils diminishing the i. C. s is no longer the force it was the sectarian problems of growing that the riots and i think he just rushes things and he was always very fair in problems of growing that the riots and i think he just rushes things and he was always very impatient so within 4 months he has to divide this huge country by doing that and patient so within 4 months he has. To divide this huge country what are you doing that was previously in venice or in your book and since it is about the plural as previously in venice or in your book and since it is about the plural you seem to suggest that he sped things up deliberately partly because of you seem to suggest that he sped things up deliberately partly because of marital problems with his wife and of course were talking here about the largest human my god will probably with his wife and of course were talking here about the largest human migration in World History of the partition of india i mean ration in World History of the partition of india i mean you know i think no one to speak to the problems would be a partition and thats true of the engine i think no one to speak to the problems would be a partition and thats true of the engine politicians as well i think you know he did i dont buy the thought alterations as well i think you know he did i dont buy the fact that he did it because you want to get back to his naval career or or anything else i think he just got the t. He did it because you want to get back to his naval career or or anything else i think he just felt that the only way. Was to keep was sticking keeps the thing since the instance of mr mental mementoes and going i think where hes at fault is he only announced the politicians i think where hes at fault is he only announced the politicians the boundaries after independence he wanted intervention celebrations to go with the swing the. After independence he wanted intervention celebrations to go with a swing and not instance the british not to be in control not a proper. British not to be. That of pat robinson rhodes. That was you know also something the engine politicians want of themselves and i think the indian politicians have to take some responsibility for not preparing themselves properly because the world warnings. About the problems that would wouldnt suit you know also something the engine politicians want to themselves and i think the indian politicians have to take some responsibility for not preparing themselves properly because the world warnings about the problems it would wouldnt suit but by kevins just drinking consensus he was a governor governor of the north northwest us from 20 who were warning about what was going to happen. But you know and but there were true and theyre prepared to work to do it true but i think the feeling with the british had to do it was that we did but i dont think the feeling with the british out was that we dont want to be were no longer responsible for the continent now its up to the indians to do what want to be were no longer responsible for the continent now its up to the indians to do what they feel is right. And well protect what you saw was a possible border. The way the what it read a that radcliffe drew the border under well you know certain things that didnt work out but i mean he did drew the border under well you know certain things that didnt work out but i mean he did a extraordinary job in a very short period of time his Commission Divided on sectarian grants it was extraordinary job in a very short period of time his Commission Divided sectarian ground so he was left to do on his own i think that was a feeling there will be much more cooperation than there in fact was left to do on his own i think there was a feeling there will be much more cooperation than there in fact was later i dont think any normal person would resign i mean a 1000000 people were killed because of this no i dont think you dont think any normal person would resign when a 1000000 people were killed because of this no i dont think he felt the need to resign i think he felt the need to solve the problem and in some ways he did he set up in a body felt the need to resign i think he felt the need to solve the problem and in some ways he did he set up an Emergency Committee and he in that we know were i think you know selfless in the way they worked on that which is the committee and he in that we know were i think you know selfless in the way they were and thats in some ways were bond with with with their really developed what they did afterwards and some ways were bond with with with their really developed what they did afterwards so that in some ways which i find to stop at them in the stories always said that if if youre in a hole so that in some ways which i find to stop at them in the stories always said that if if youre in a hole the best place the best person to get you out is to keep but hell got you into the mess in the 1st place all the best place the best person to get you out of his sticky but hell got you into the mess in the 1st place so this is probably another good example of that the tragedy lives on today and so this is probably another good example of that the tragedy lives on today in terms of trying to understand god but about an early on in the book when the terms of trying to understand god but about and early on in the book when the when you recount the kind of a. Lifestyle they have which is so when you recount the kind of lifestyle they have which is so out of reach and beyond what anyone in British Society could have as you say there when they were out of reach and beyond what anyone in British Society could have as you say there when they meet chaplain Charlie Chaplin on the anywhere in. Baghdad meet chaplain Charlie Chaplin in the anywhere in. Baghdad and calls up in a shy and pathetic little man is a kind of goals shop in a shy and pathetic little man is a kind of. Emblematic of the lack of empathy of lord mountbatten for normal people in this country have always each emblematic of the lack of empathy of lord mountbatten for normal people in this country have always the chaplain was it all he would but yeah a working class man from relevant to guzzle. It was in all he would but yeah a working class man from relevant to gossip yeah well i mean that was a strictly a private letter i mean he was very arrogant and very faint and slightly pumping that was a certainly a private letter i mean he was very arrogant in a very faint and slightly pompous and i think its how they talk i mean i think repurpose didnt know this and i think its how they talk i mean i think repurpose didnt know the time is chaplain made a pos at the time was chopped we made up you know. We are on the moon or. Headed up and you know sit him you know she could be an embarrassment to him at times because of course not in a public pronouncements but also and she could be an embarrassment to him at times because of course not in a public pronouncements but also in her private life and that was always is concerned you know not to upset the royal family and not to stymie a private life and that was always is concerned you know not to upset the royal family not to stymie his career but the infamous liaison with the great call his career but the infamous liaison with the great communist paul robeson i mean you know if you look at it as to didnt come out so well with the fact that that may be the you look at it didnt come out with the fact that maybe the evidence isnt there forever late in the sense isnt even that we have comparable relationship it was really important to. Have a long relationship really notion about ship with and know about the whole missions he hasnt hotch potch. I think do quote i do some people quote some people saying that it may have been a neighbor relationships or it was really. Difficult to. Assure that of the she certainly wasnt averse to doctrine her. Doris to doctoring her documentary they. Say there was wasnt enough in the fair because she just doesnt talk about about the affair and dont you always mention since her affair and her doctor. But you know how do we know that because no one else has seen those diaries except the official biography us doors are closed to researches no one else has seen those diaries except the official biography us doors are closed to researches. Except by the family by the family by the government actually i think the family except by the family by the family by the government actually i think the family are not behind it its the government of closed it with Southampton University and when you are an expert not behind it its the government of closed it with Southampton University and when youre an expert on some spying is whats up because youre on on this is what your previous work books i was in 09. By the government is the same thing but surely its more i mean when you started out writing little the government is the same thing but surely its more i mean when you started out writing lives you didnt think the government would be hiding secrets about that was the way they would understand you didnt think the government would be hiding secrets about the way they would understandably arguably be hiding about russian spies in here that might. Be hiding about russian spies in here and i dont know it was and i didnt think that i would discover that i was writing about another promiscuous bisexual thoughts and it was and i didnt think that i would discover that i was writing about another promiscuous bisexual. So there are all surprises but the great thing about bach for you start you just dont know where its going to lead so there are all surprises but great thing about bach for you start you just dont know where its going to lead you under that you can duchess of windsor at the moment i dont know who knows what one might find under that you can duchess of windsor at the moment i dont know who knows what one might find or do you suspect is the reason the British Government will not release. The papers is it up or do you suspect is the reason the British Government will not release the papers is it embarrassment or is it political i think theres the clearly things that they say about the royal family which embarrassment or is it political i think theres the clearly things that they say about the royal family which they pretty dont want out i think props the i mean we know that she had 16 plus a 5th a pretty dont want to out i think props the i mean we know that she had 16 plus affairs and he had many self the maybe other affairs as a matter of course not as and he had many self the maybe other affairs as a matter of course not but i mean i covered the fact there been a break in at Buckingham Palace in october 94. 00 she not but i mean i covered the fact that being a break in at Buckingham Palace in october 949. 00 someone came and came to look for the king and you go to over the wall and 30 seconds climbed up and opined someone came and came to look for the king and you go to over the wall and 30 seconds climbed up an open ladder by an open window and got in now theyve tried to shut that story down because of a lot of buy an open window and got in now theyve tried to shut that story down because of they say that they used the same security arrangements now as they didnt 149 there is a culture of say that they use the same security arrangements now as they didnt 149 there is a culture of secrecy in this country and anything to do the royal family is covered up quite unnecessary secrecy in this country and anything to do the royal family is covered up quite unnecessarily i mean the royal archives are pretty much closed. You know they all get surprisingly i mean the royal archives are pretty much closed. You know they all use a private archive i would argue that its part of the public life now one of that archive i would argue that its part of the public life now one aspect that you were able to get lots of information on is the 942 aspect that you were able to get lots of information on is the 942 d a raid which was a disaster and it was a naval officer there so deep raid which was a disaster and it was a naval officer there some people saying it was the precursor to d. Day how did that and i dont people saying it was the precursor to d. Day. How did not about and how did the even go one being a naval officer after a raid which killed would 97th even go one by naval officer after a raid which killed what 97 percent of the canadian troops that were he was very good at shifting the blame to all the people of the canadian troops that were he was very good at shifting the blame to all the people he had a mentor but like burgess stayed in churchill was his great mentor or not he had a mentor like burgess stayed in churchill was his great mentor and he was moved on recently quickly after that to Southeast Asia but he was a man he was moved on recently quickly after that to Southeast Asia but he was a man he was a ruthless self promoter and he was a great you know a teflon man he was a ruthless self promoter and he was a great you know a teflon man things didnt really stick now in the end hes not killed by things didnt really stick now in the end hes not killed by an indian. Angry at him for partition he ends up being killed in an indian. Angry at him for partition he ends up being killed in learned what have you discovered about his assassination in. And what have you discovered about his assassination where the extraordinary thing is that he had a private bodyguard a little problem with extraordinary thing is that he had a private bodyguard a little probably a military policeman who did a Damage Assessment to us who could see that shutter 5 was a military policeman who did a Damage Assessment to us who could see that shutter 5 was unprotected night and vulnerable and reported that nothing was done hed done protect knighton vulnerable and reported that nothing was done he noticed that there was a belfast car belonging to an ira activist in the vicinity noticed that there was a belfast car. Long into an ira activist in the vicinity reports that nothing was done and it thought this chap graeme youll was such reports that nothing was done and i thought this chap graeme youll was sacked made to sign a gagging order which only expired 2 years ago. Its made to sign a gagging order which only expired 2 years ago. And the protections given to the garda who were not really qualified to do that job. And the protections given to the garda who were not really qualified to do that job but also mum and been told repeatedly not to go to on that year they knew there was a plot also mum been told repeatedly not to go to on that year they knew there was a plot to assassinate him over the royal family probably him and it was pretty irresponsible not only to go to assassinate him over the royal family probably him and it was pretty irresponsible not only to go but to bring his family with him and make them. Victims themselves or to bring his family with him and make them. Victims themselves while of course we dont blame blaming them but i mean when youre talking about the changes in of course we dont blame blaming them but i mean when youre talking about the changes in Security Protection youre not saying that there would have been insiders Security Protection youre not. Saying that there would have been insiders well there were certainly suspicions that there were insiders. Sympathetic well there were certainly suspicions that there were insiders. Sympathizers working in his household. But there were certainly people watching him with the eyes as working in his household. But there were certainly people watching him but they already of course was it was a backfire the support from north america dried up the corporate irony of course was it was a backfire the support from north america dried up the corporation across the border increased and the army is always been sympathetic to the i ration across the border increased and the army is not always been sympathetic to the i raise aims so they killed in effect the wrong man but we have to get the papers i mean you say means so they killed in effect the wrong man but we have to get the papers i mean you separate it very specifically the rumors about child abuse you separate it very specifically the rumors about child abuse and all the rest of it will we ever get these papers do you looking at all the rest of it will we ever get these papers do you looking at the things you looked at believe any of this can cora boys when bill 1st being at the things you looked at believe any of this can cora boys when bill 1st abuse scandal like i quote 2 boys who claim to be abused and who came from conclusive like i quote 2 boys who claim to be abused and who came from can core and they say they were to be persuasive and they knew things that they wouldnt have known they couldnt have been or they were to be persuasive and they knew things that they wouldnt have known they couldnt have made up but you know its not just them there are lots and lots of which i did i couldnt put in the book made up but you know its not just them there are lots and lots of which i did i couldnt put in the book for legal reasons and the because i couldnt stand up it up properly suggesting his links for legal reasons and the because i couldnt stand up it up proper. Suggesting his links with with the sexual abuse rings are not and this testimony from a drive with with the sexual abuse rings or not and this testimony from a driver from the 2nd world war as well who went to live in new zealand so things were gauged from the 2nd world war as well who went to new zealand so things are beginning to emerge even now since the book came out people are telling me things so i think theres a merge even now since the book came out people are telling me things so i think theres a lot more to the story than meets the eye and the call beach thing has made people just miss old a lot more to the story than meets the eye and the call beach thing has made people just miss all these these stories and i think we throw in the about the baby out with the bathwater but i think the case of these these stories and i think we throw in the about the baby out with the bathwater but i think the case of bisexuality is pretty much made the case with paedophilia i agree is more so by sexuality is pretty much made the case with paedophilia i agree is more circumstantial but as i said more stuff is coming in and its pretty consistent circumstantial but as i said more stuff is coming in and its pretty consistent and really thank you thats it for the show will be back on monday on the eve of the global and really thank you thats it for the show will be back on monday on the eve of the global 1000000 mom march against political corruption go inside it with the very folks plot to bring down the 1000000 mom march against political corruption go inside it with the very folks plot to burn down the British Parliament until they can be judged by social media dont forget to subscribe. 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