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Us for a wide ranging one on one including thoughts on donald does for a wide ranging one on one including thoughts on donald trump the 2020 campaign and what he learned from his experience from the 2020 campaign and what he learned from his experiences with impeachment proceedings he joins me from washington says with impeachment proceedings he joins me from washington d. C. President trump has called the impeachment inquiry d. C. President trump has called the impeachment inquiry. And a scam Vice President pence calls it a disk hoax and a scam Vice President pence calls into scrapes what does trent lott corps. Well grace what does trent lott corps. Well. It concerns me it bothers me having been through it i dont think its good for the company it concerns me it bothers me having been through it i dont think its good for the country i worried both during the nixon impeachment proceedings and on tree i worried both during the nixon impeachment proceedings and the clinton process in the senate i didnt want to do damn the clinton process in the senate i didnt want to do damage to the presidency in the process and i worried a large to the presidency in the process and i worried a lot about that and focused on it then i think weve succeeded in not doing damage at about that and focused on it then i think weve succeeded in not doing damage but its not a good process its not good for the country more or less but its not a good process its not good for the country more or less so to further divides us and i would caution sort of further divides us and i would caution the democrats in the house be careful what you wrought because if you look back to the democrats in the house be careful what you wrought because if you look back when the republicans voted to impeach bill clinton in the house back when the republicans voted to impeach bill clinton in the house and it came over the senate we had the trial the house and sort of his office and it came over the senate we had the trial the house and a sort of historic. Change lost seats the House Republicans all seats so you know its you got to be very careful how you proceed owns doric. Change lost seats the House Republicans all seats so you know its youve got to be very careful how you proceed. This the best way if you want to move a president is called an election but all this the best way if you want to move a president is called an election but also there are good lawyers im sure and partisans on both sides of the so theyre good lawyers im sure and partisans on both sides of the hour all that bill like you know there are things here that need to be looked into the question now that bill like you know there are things here that need to be looked into the question is how do you do it and what is the in result going to be in terms of it is how do you do it and what is the in result going to be in terms of you know the country itself it really bothers me is that the kind of you know the country itself it really bothers me is that the congress is not doing anything now theyre not doing anything about Immigration Reform in this country tonight because its not doing anything now theyre not doing anything about Immigration Reform in this country theyre not doing anything about infrastructure one good thing about what we went through with clinton you know anything about infrastructure one good thing about what we went through with clinton is we right up until we began the trial and it made a day after we went right back as we right up until we began the trial and i made a day after we went right back to legislating now they the house can do that because only one committee to legislating now they the house can do that because only one committee normally the Judiciary Committee would be meeting but once it gets to the senate if you eat normally the Judiciary Committee would be meeting but once it gets to the senate if you have a full blown senate trial every senator must be at his or her desk to have a full blown senate trial every senator must be at his or her desk and they spin every day every afternoon from 12 to 6 usually and they spin every day every afternoon from 12 to 6 usually. Also editor sitting there so that the other legislative Better Business stops but also to just sitting there so that the other legislator Better Business stops on the impeachment process how has nancy pelosi and your on the impeachment process how has nancy pelosi in your opinion handled it to this moment well let me pin handle it to this moment. Well let me point out that as you noted in the intro i did serve on the Judiciary Committee when i was a point out that as you noted in the intro i did serve on the Judiciary Committee when i was a 1st term congressman way back in 1973 and 74 so i saw it 1st hand 1st term congressman way back in 1973 and 74 so i saw it firsthand up close what is supposed to happen in the Judiciary Committee in the house and up close what is supposed to happen in the Judiciary Committee in the house which i served on and which peter rodino from new jersey chaired us which i served on and which peter rodino from new jersey chaired it was sort of done by the book and of course i also was majority leader when we it was sort of done by the book and of course i also was majority leader when we had the impeachment trial of William Jefferson clinton a trial that i knew from the beginning had the impeachment trial of William Jefferson clinton a trial that i knew from the beginning as an old whip Office Holder and counter and you had accounting as an old whip Office Holder and counter and you had to count the votes i could not see how we were going to get the votes to remove president clinton from off the votes i could not see how we were going to get the votes to remove president clinton from office so the challenge for me and for the democratic leader tom daschle was house so the challenge for me and for the democratic leader tom daschle was how do we set this up in a way that the people felt like we did our job we did it thoroughly we set this up in a way that the people felt like we did our job we did it thoroughly we went through the process we had depositions we had debate we discussed it that we went through the process we had depositions we had debate we discussed it the chief justice presided but at the end of the day when the vote occurred it was all the chief justice presided but at the end of the day when they voted. Heard it was all were and were able to move on and do other things for the country now thats a real challenge here and were able to move on and do other things for the country now thats a real challenge and were about to have to test that Speaker Pelosi has been careful thats one reason were about to have to test that Speaker Pelosi has been careful and thats one reason why the house has not yet voted for the more traditional resolution that was why the house has not yet voted for the more traditional resolution that would begin the impeachment proceedings in the Judiciary Committee and thats where i believe would begin the impeachment proceedings in the Judiciary Committee and thats where i believe resides so while shes taken some criticism for not resides so while shes taken some criticism for not doing it that way by republicans i think its cause shes waiting to see though in it that way by republicans i think its cause shes waiting to see a little bit how this plays out what the evidence was the mother reported not a little bit how this plays out what the evidence was the mother report did not come forward with the type of information that people say can page one might have wanted to come forward with the type of information that people say can pay for what might have wanted so shes you know sort of taken the time i guess the answer will be when she say she has the so shes you know sort of taken the time i guess the answer will be when she say she has the votes in the time is ready in the house as best she can determine it she will proceed votes in the time is ready in the house as best she can determine it she will proceed but shes an old experienced hand you know you cannot underestimate spin but shes an old experienced hand you know you cannot underestimate Speaker Pelosi did he sounding fatness in a comic or palosi did he say. Fathers make a mistake when they call it high crimes and misdemeanors mistake when they call it high crimes and misdemeanors do we understand that i dont think we really do do we understand that. I dont think we really do and perhaps its in the mind of the holder or it depends on how a person and perhaps its in the mind of the holder or it depends on how a person will define it but the constitution itself is very limited and will define it but the constitution itself is very limited in what it says about impeachment but if you go back and read the federalist papers furthur gartin did what it says about impeachment but if you go back and read the federalist papers for their guard to impeachment Alexander Hamilton and madison had some very clear thoughts about why that my basement Alexander Hamilton and madison had some very clear thoughts about why that might be necessary and how it should be done they were very specific but be necessary and how it should be done they were very specific but for instance i dont know how they would have defined misdemeanors but i wanted for instance i dont know how they would have defined misdemeanors but im under the impression that a mr meter in their mind was a more serious charge that impression that mr meter in their mind was a more serious charge then we interpret it today misdemeanor today as a a minor criminal and we interpret it today misdemeanor today as a a minor criminal violation or maybe even you know is it a distilling something about elation or maybe even you know is it distilling something wrong so i think they thought it was more serious than it now is interpreted wrong so i think they thought it was more serious than it now is interpreted so they thought of it as something more than high crimes and not to say so they thought of it as something more than high crimes and not too serious crimes they thought of both of them as a pretty serious matter and that thats the thing you have here is crimes they thought of both of them as a pretty serious matter and that thats the thing you have to prove and its quite often very hard to prove is proven its quite often very hard to prove is lying to a grand jury. Crime it is certainly lying to a grand jury. Or crime it is certainly more than a misdemeanor or is obstruction of justice. More than a misdemeanor or is obstruction of justice crime in my mind it could be and that was the crime in my mind it could be and that was the conclusion i basically came to with regard to president nixon and there was the smoking gun the actual tape of him giving instructions that conclusion obviously came to with regard to president nixon and there was the smoking gun the actual tape of him giving instructions that could certainly be interpreted as instructed of justice speaking and that it could certainly be interpreted as an instruction of justice speaking and that we now have an actual phone call between an american president and a thought we now have an actual phone call between an american president and a thong 10 tree 3 to 4 different occasions now others have backed up then 10 tree 3 to 4 different occasions now others have backed up that call asking him this foreign country to invest that call asking him this foreign country to investigate a political rival as in that disturb you well lets get a political rival. As in that distant view well as it disturbs me is a lot of things disturb me about that number one it disturbs me is a lot of things disturb me about that number one you know looking at it when the president say standpoint i dont stand while hes been you know looking at it when the president say standpoint i dont stand while these people are listening in on a conversation or while there were all these recordings we would think people were listening in on a conversation or while they were all these recordings we would think president s would have learned for president nixon recording what goes on roll in the oval office and not a great idea president s would have learned from president nixon recording what goes on roll in the oval office and not a great idea secondly to be talking to the leader of another country about secondly to be talking to the leader of another country about investigating corruption or investigating a person could be investigating corruption or investigating a person could be a political opponent. That is disturbing but a political opponent. That is disturbing but i think for it to be something beyond that they would have to be clear quid pro quo i think for it to be something beyond that they would have to be clear quid pro quo if you dont do this were not going to do that or vice versa but its a no you dont do this were not going to do that or vice versa but its an area that is being looked into then the question is an area that is being looked into then the question is is it being looked into and a proper way and thats one thing ive always appreciated had been looked into and a proper way and thats one thing i always appreciated about the Judiciary Committee when i was a freshman house member 32 years old sitting on that Committee Peter rodino the chairman was. Very fair and the well he way elaborate about the Judiciary Committee when i was a freshman house member 32 years old sitting on that Committee Peter rodino the chairman was very fair and a well he way allowed republicans to ask questions to have witnesses im selves publicans to ask questions to have witnesses im selves and and for me personally hell allowed me to engage in the debate and for me personally hell allowed me to engage in the debate against one of the articles and sleep page one which we did think 8 against one of the articles and sleep page one which we did defeat so how you do Something Like this is almost a seat so how you do Something Like this is almost as important as what do you do you need to do it carefully and by the book important what do you do you need to do it carefully and by the book and make sure that well for instance when i 1st met with and make sure that i well for instance when i 1st met with my republican conference about how to proceed on the clinton matter i had a process my republican conference about how to proceed on the clinton matter i had a process in mind that would have been concluded in about 2 weeks without any depositions or witnesses in mind it would have been concluded in about 2 weeks without any depositions or witnesses i mean things like that my own republican conference pushed back said oh no no says i mean things like that my own republican conference push back said oh no you know what youre doing youre trying to short circuit this and we need to do this by the way of what youre doing youre trying to short circuit this and we need to do this by the book we need to have the full hearings we need to have senators in the seats the chief justice sitting there book we need to have the full hearings we need. To have senators in the seats the chief justice sitting there we need to take depositions we need to have formal questions and we need to take depositions we need to have formal questions and so i revised how we were going to do it and it wound up taking about a month but it all revised how we were going to do it and it wound up taking about a month but at the end of that month most people whether they agreed or disagreed with the final at the end of that month most people whether they agreed or disagreed with the final result felt like it was done properly as required by the const result felt like it was done properly as required by the constitution you vote in florida guilty right i did vote for 2 should you vote in florida guilty right i did vote for the 2 articles of impeachment one interesting thing about that i did that on a friday tom daschle and i shook hands in the center aisle and the 2 articles of impeachment one interesting thing about that did that on a friday tom daschle and i shook hands in the Center Island and agreed that we had done the job the best we could and i fair and up and agreed that we had done the job the best we could and a fair and bipartisan way a week later actually following thursday i got a call from artist and way a week later actually following thursday i got a call from president clinton he wanted to talk to be about a bill it was a big bill in fact president clinton he wanted to talk to me about a bill it was a big bail in fact i never have been able to recall exactly what it was but he wanted me to see if we could move this bill i never have been able to recall exactly what it was but he wanted me to see if we could move this bill along through the process he didnt mention how i had voted he didnt even mention the impeachment trial on through the process he didnt mention how id vote. Did he did even mention the impeachment trial we just went on with our business and in the next few years did we just went on with our business and in the next few years did several good things for the country working together youve got to have that when the civil good things for the country working together you got to have that when the senate gets this to trial the supreme justice conducts the trial then it gets this trial the supreme juss conducts the trial can you honestly say that every cent of the senators you knew. Can you honestly say that every cent of the senators you knew took this seamlessly and voted their conscience after 2 kids seamlessly and voted their conscience absolutely and we did a lot of things that were were different for instance we couldnt decide was a little late and we did a lot of things that were were different for instance we couldnt decide really how to proceed so i finally came up with idea of ok well all go meet early how to proceed so i finally came up with idea of ok well all go meet in the Old Senate Chamber no staff no press just senators and i asked dan in the Old Senate Chamber no staff no press just senators and i asked denny akaka from hawaii to open the session with. A prayer that hopefully we would be a caucus for why it opened a session with god it was a prayer that hopefully we would be led to do the right thing in that meeting and i called on to byrd who was he led to do the right thing in that meeting and i called on to byrd who was sort of the historian of the senate to get was a brief tutorial on what the concert sort of the historian of the senate to get was a brief tutorial on what the constitution required and then we open it up for discussion and to our surprise senators are required and then we open it up. Discussion and to our surprise senator gramm of texas spoke a conservative republican followed by senator gramm of texas spoke a conservative republican followed by senator ted kennedy of massachusetts and as i listened to him it sounded like they were saying that or ted kennedy of massachusetts and as i listen to him it sounded like they were saying the same thing and so we came together and said ok were going to go forward with the same thing and so we came together and said ok were going to go forward with the Graham Kennedy proposal tom daschle asked me later did i really the Graham Kennedy proposal tom daschle asked me later did i really know for sure what wed agreed to and i told him no but we had agreed and so i suggested for sure what wed agreed to and i told him no but we had agreed and so i suggested said tom look i think we have a good idea what want to do here but you said that it said tom look i think we have a an idea what want to do here but you send a couple of your senators and ill send a couple of mine and theyll write it up and we can then go forward it so he sent ted kennedy and Joe Lieberman and i sent phil great great up one of your answers later to go to jordan on one selection a couple of months on day and they will write it up and we can then go forward it so he sent ted kennedy and Joe Lieberman and i sent phil graham and slade gorton of Washington State they came up with the polls well and we moved Forward Together and they came up with the polls well and we moved Forward Together and the debate was it was really i thought thoughtful the debate was it was really i thought thoughtful and one of the things that we did to try to make sure we understood each other and one of the things that we did to try to make sure we understood each other at night after being in session from like 12. 00 to 6. 00 we would go into session at night night after being in session from like 12. 6 we would go into session at night clothes say showed us just their treasures us just also going to check all of them going to eat with it if the gift of integrity get given to you cant believe that the difference in the tenor and the how honest they were you cant believe that the difference in the tenor and the how honest they were some tear senators in tears about the decision never faced. Some tear senators in tears about the decision they were faced. Turns and say like my dad will be leaving lang lang back. For all its falling thats right addict in the things right after this break. Terror of. Terror and of sight to see. Russia and the us. 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Morgan or Deutsche Bank are unable to settle trades because they dont have the cash to settle the trade bank are unable to settle trades because they dont have the cash to settle the trade then when the end of the quarter comes theyre going to have to by law if they if there are then when the end of the quarter comes theyre going to have to by law if they if there is the rule of law anymore and thats an open question announce that they are insolvent and there is the rule of law anymore and thats an open question announce that they are insolvent and therefore theyre going to set off a cascade of contagion. For theyre going to set off a cascade of contagion. Will be a continuation of the 2008 crisis but much much worse. 2000 crisis but much much worse. With the budget politicking were talking trash from. Republican budget politicking were talking. From. Republican mississippi he is in washington d. C. Those skills so moving in mississippi he is in washington d. C. Those. Areas over the weekend the president dramatically announced the killing areas over the weekend the president dramatically announced the killing of isis leave. Baghdad he says signal of isis leave. Baghdad the whats the significance of that vote. Well i think it is significant 1st of all move against that vote. Well i think it is significant 1st of all the great credit goes to our men and women our special forces all the great credit goes to our men and women our special forces that were involved in this attack apparently even a German Shepherd dog was a has that were involved in this attack apparently even a German Shepherd dog was a hero in this occasion so i think we should 1st thank the people that put their hero in this occasion so i think we should 1st thank the people that put their lives on the line to take out one of the most feared and dreaded was on the line to take out one of the most feared and dreaded terrorist leaders in the world and so isis will have a terrorist leaders in the world and so isis will have to really organize i guess to see whos going to be there they have to really organize i guess to see who is going to be there their leader to take his place but it was significant and its like a leader to take his place but it was significant and its like in the past when we were able to take out other leaders of terrorist groups when in the past when we were able to take out other leaders of terrorist groups when it was announced by george w. Bush and by barack obama these kinds of it was announced by george w. Bush and by barack obama these kinds of actions do clearly affect what unit lakshman do clearly affect what a unit like isis can do you because off the head it clearly affects what the tail can do so like isis can do you because off the head it clearly affects what the tail can do so credit to our men and women in uniform but also the fact that this was a credit to our men and women in. Uniform but also the fact that this was a Significant Development many of your fellow republicans have criticized Significant Development many of your fellow republicans have criticized the leaving of the cheney keeps leaving soon what do you think dies deleting tweets leaving soon and what do you think ive struggled with that truth larry ive had occasion to struggle with that truth larry ive had occasion to be in turkey a few times and i have met with. Bobby in turkey a few times and i have met with. Both and turkey on occasion and once here too i had hoped that with and turkey on occasion and once here too i had hoped that that he would be a leader of turkey that would be that he would be a leader of turkey that would be positive i advocated for turkey being brought into a positive i advocated for turkey being brought into nato. But ive been very concerned about a number of nato. But and ive been very concerned about a number of his actions ive been concerned about him frankly playing footsies with the russia of his actions ive been concerned about him frankly playing footsies with the russians. And you know i do know a little bit of insight. And you know i do know a little bit of some of the inside things that went on with the kurds they fought with us and they were fighting with Light Weapons some of the inside things that went on with the kurds they fought with us and they were fighting with Light Weapons for a long time because baghdad wouldnt help them get the heavy weaponry they need they were us for a long time because a bag. Add wouldnt help them get the heavy weaponry they need they were they are our most reliable fighters in syria against isis they are our most reliable fighters in syria against isis so i havent been pleased with the way that was handled i havent been pleased with the way that was handled. I do know that theyre the p. K. K. Milt. I do know that theyre the p. K. K. Kurds have been and thats a Different Group of the ones that we fought kurds have been and thats a Different Group of the ones that we fought with for the most part but theres a group of kurds that have been doing these incursions into turkey with for the most part but theres a group of kurds that have been doing these incursions into turkey and killing civilians and i know that the the turks in urdu want to particular had a real problem there key in killing civilians and i know that the the turks entered want to particular had a real problem that but the way this was done to come in. And that but the way this was done to come in. And now that they do have a buffer zone maybe that will. Now that they do have a buffer zone maybe that will help calm things down it looks like the ceasefire is holding but i didnt feel good to help calm things down it looks like the ceasefire is holding but i didnt feel good about it felt like we would turn our back on some people that that bled out it felt like we would turn our back on some people that that bled with us when it really mattered. And wounds so mental and he still had with us when it really mattered. And wounds to mental and hes killing yeah thats right when bravo obama announced the thing. Yeah thats right i went braga obama announced the killing of all ben ladan he took 9 minutes. By contract killing a while ben ladan he took 9 minutes. By contrast donald trump slope for 15 minutes 40 minutes in a News Conference as donald trump slope for 15 minutes 40 minutes in a News Conference declaring bob dudley was a whimpering coward who died like a dog is declaring by god he was a whimpering coward who died like a dog you think you overdid it then well obviously some people in the media are saying you overdid it then well obviously some people in the media are saying that and i must say that. Im not happy in that and i must say that. Im not happy quite often with some of the language that President Trump. Quite often with some of the language that President Trump uses i dont consider it to be president ial one you know some of it is just i dont consider it to be president ial one you know some of it is too long but you know. Just too long but you know. Just let me get a look at the Bigger Picture to let me give you an example of trump and we had a look at the Bigger Picture to let me give you an example of trump i was always a free trader in the congress but over the years tried to talk to the i was always a free trader in the congress but over the years tried to talk to the chinese i went to beijing and met with the chinese i talked to europeans and chinese i went to beijing and met with the chinese i talked to europeans about how the trading was not always fair and even though i was a free traders about how the trading was not always fair and even though i was a free trader is no question that many of our trade partners were taken advantage of was so i think that trump has been doing a question it many of our trade partners were taken advantage of was so i think that trump has been doing President Trump is trying to do the right thing with regard to the European Central President Trump is trying to do the right thing with regard to the europeans and now its got their break with the japanese and south koreans and chinese but now its got their break with the japanese and south koreans and chinese but so i like the fact that he has done it because many of us do so i like the fact that he has done it because many of us did not do what was necessary in the past but my problem has been again sometimes did not do what was necessary in the past but my problem has been again sometimes how he does it doing all of these trade agreements at once its how he does it doing all of these trade agreements at once. You know causes some some problems i would look to be likely to make more. You know causes some some problems i would look to be likely to make more sense to do it in syria them one after the other or maybe 2 are but. So essentially do it in syria them one after the other or maybe 2 air or but so its sort of a pattern but he you know he didnt provide us to be present sort of a pattern but he you know he didnt provide us to be present like presence of the play past he does it differently and that kind of like presence of the play past he does it differently and that that those calls thanks to and some time because its a problem for him self when silence also thanks to and some time because its a problem for him self when silence would have been better for example he informed me of putin about but that would have been better for example he informed me of putin above but daddy operation before it happened but he didnt bring to the Democratic Congressional operation before it happened but he didnt bring to the Democratic Congressional leadership. Sheeny as. Well gotten leadership sheeny as. Well got to 3 actions so that number one he informed the russian so that there would be 23. 00 actions of that number one he informed the russian so that there wouldnt be an inadvertent conflict in the airspace that we were going to inadvertent conflict in the airspace that we were going to so i think we did the right thing but buys in the russians i think the russians did the right thing you know i think we did the right thing but buys in the russians i think the russians did the right thing and the credible thing to say ok they didnt say dont come in we cant say were coming to the credible thing to say ok they didnt say dont come in we cant say were coming here we come in low we didnt tell them what the purpose was but the russians acted responsibly in saying we come in low we didnt tell them what the purpose was but the russians acted responsibly and so did wed ovoid you know a mistake and conflict thats point number one noted way to avoid you know mistake and conflict thats point number one point number 2 own at least a couple occasions. Point number 2 own at least a couple occasions president clinton called me and said were going to go and were going to bomb a place or were going to president clinton call me and said were going to go and were going to bomb a place or were going to do this ken and i want you to know and i would appreciate it if you would be to this ken and i want you to know and i would appreciate it if you would be supportive and we did it on secure phone and then i know it one in support and we did it on secure phone and then i know at one instance it was sure i asked him can you get to your Intelligence Community to call me and since it was sure i asked him can you get to your Intelligence Community to call me and give me more information about this most of the time with only one exception give me more information about this most of the time with only one exception ive supported the president when he took these actions and ive supported the president when he took these actions so but there has been a real problem in this city with leaks i mean if so but there has been a real problem in this city with leaks i mean if places like it like a sieve and there foods of any chance that anybody else is leaking like a sieve and there foods of any chance that anybody accidentally inadvertently or whatever were leaked or told somebody accidentally inadvertently or whatever were leaked or told somebody that this is going to happen you could have had labs at stake so but that this is going to happen you could have had labs at stake so but there again is one of my concerns republicans dont talk a democrat there again is one of my concerns republicans dont talk to democrats at the house the house and on top of this the senate. The. The senate and then dolled out the house also president doesnt talk about it all contra Congress Everybody needs to be communicating and theres got to be at the top leadership hundreds Everybody Needs to be communicating and theres got to be at the top leadership house and Senate Republican and democrat and the presidency can communicate and house and Senate Republican and democrat and the presidency can communicate in good faith and without rancor for the best interest of the American People are we do good faith and without rancor for the best interest of the American People are we doing that now no but we used to do it what do you make of the democrat in that now no but we used to do it what do you make of the democratic field so far. In the wedding scene and so far. Theyre well. Not much i get pretty uncomfortable with their well. Not much i get pretty uncomfortable with they are all the things theyre advocating and you know most people would describe a lot of it as sort of all the things that are advocating and you know most people would describe a lot of it is socialism and i know some of them pretty well out served in the senate were Bernie Sanders look it was im i know some of them pretty well out served in the senate were Bernie Sanders and with the Vice President joe biden and i had a really great but and with the Vice President joe biden and i had a really great frankly relationship with joe biden i didnt mean now hes considered so rankly relationship with joe biden i didnt mean now hes considered sort of a moderate he was kind of a liberal when he was in the in the senate but he was a decent guy with a moderate he was kind of a liberal when he was in the in the senate but he was a decent guy you know he wouldnt be mean spirited in winning they did with you. You know he wouldnt be mean spirited in would say did with you joe biden is someone you could live with. As President Joe Biden is someone you could live with. As president and me you would want to hear a paused. Well let me just say you were born a year or paused. Well let me just say are who you know it looks to me like hes the best of the field they are who you know it looks to me like hes the best of the field as it now stands why do we have such. A rift in the congress they answer why do we have such. A rift in the country why this split well. Why this split well i think a lot about that. You know the time to different. I think a lot about that. You know the time to different people of different the millenniums have a completely different perspective a lot of things people have different the millenniums have a completely different perspective a lot of things that we do. I do think that social media and money that we do. I do think that social media and monetary knology is not good you know ive got one of the grandchildren cloning technology is not good you know ive got 100 grandchildren include a little 16 year old and trying to get her to put that thing that cell phone down and talk to my little 16 year old and trying to get her to put that thing that cell phone down and talk to me is not easy and i worry that they are theyre affected but he is not easy and i worry that they are they are affected by all of this and they are their communication skills are being diminished for hal of this and their their communication skills are being diminished perhaps by this but now there are a lot of others i still make it a point to reach out to young people about leadership by this but now there are a lot of others i still make it a point to reach out to young people about Leadership Institute at the university of mississippi where students they are literally from all over the country Ship Institute at the university of mississippi webb students they are literally from all over the country i speak to them once or twice a year and im impressed with them philosophically you know youve got to weve got a broad division there but i also think i speak to them once or twice a year and im impressed with them philosophically you know youve got to weve got a broad division there but i also think the media has to take a little bit of the blame of the credit larry of. The media has to take a little bit of the blame of the credit larry. You know my good friend john breaux my partner for the last 11 years for the most part he was you know my good friend john breaux my partner for the last 11 years for the most part he watches his you know emissions and b. C. But for the most part part out i watch fox fox fox. You know thank goodness of the world series who gave us Something Else to watch. You know thank goodness for the world series who gave us Something Else to watch so its a combination of things but you know relationships require so its a combination of things but you know relationships require are f. F. Con contact in tact respect. The the negative stuff that that like i took basic journalism higher than the negative stuff that that like i took basic journalism in high school i was the assistant news editor of the daily mississippian when i was in school i was the assistant news editor of the daily mississippian when i was in congress to a guy named larry speaks if you might remember and went on to be reagan spokesman and congress to a guy named larry speaks if you might remember and went on to be reagan spokesman i know the difference between an editorial opinion and news i know the difference between an editorial an opinion and news now i can only tell the difference theyre all intertwined maybe a lot of times now i can only tell the difference theyre all intertwined maybe a lot of times its the headline which is sort of you know an editorial would use the headline which is sort of you know an editorial of a news article but im not putting all the blame on the news media its its its all of his article but im not putting all the blame on the news media its its its all of us and. But it can change and you know what us and. But it can change and you know what what would change it leadership just a few months what would change leadership just a few man and good men and good women. That women stand up and say were not going to do this a man and a good man and good women that are willing to stand up and say were not going to do this anymore were going to find a way to develop relationships listen to and respect the other side again my friend tom daschle says that the most important were going to find a way to develop relationships listen to and respect the other side again my friend tom actual says that the most important leadership too is your ears. Fortan leadership too is your ears. To listen and if youre not listening youre probably not learning. To listen and if youre not listening youre probably not learning. I used to have the votes most the time when i was majority leader but on occasion id go where i used to have the votes most the time when i was majority leader but on occasion id go over the democratic side and say look we got to vote here but can we tweak this sort of way that democratic side and say look we got to vote here but can we tweak this at a way that would make it a little bit easier to go down with you all and sometimes theyd say stop would make it a little bit easier to go down with you all and sometimes theyd Say Something and wed make a little modification and the people got the benefit of seem like a good thing that it would make a little modification and the people got the benefit of seem like a good thing to make. Note of Joe Lieberman was here last week yeah joe domanick you know Joe Lieberman was here last week yeah joes a great guy and i enjoyed my work with Joe Lieberman and we still talk occasionally a great guy i enjoyed my work with Joe Lieberman and we still talk occasionally hes a true patriot a great guy thank you so much hes a true patriot a great guy thank you so much this was a great interview and i really appreciate you doing where did it cause i wanted to visit my would be old friend larry king thanks mate brought us was a great interview and i really appreciate you doing it where did it cause i wanted to visit my would be old friend larry king think of my brother hank you i think in there trent lott and thank you audience for joining me i think you are thinking there trent lott and thank you audience for joining me on this edition of politicking remember you can join the conversation on my Facebook Page on this edition of politicking remember you can join the conversation. 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