Transcripts For RT Going Underground 20240713

Dehumanize workers and normalized taishan reminiscent of the Industrial Revolution thats dehumanize workers in normal is exploiting reminiscent of the Industrial Revolution it was a family struggling to get by in the wake of the 2008 financial crash it was a family struggling to get by in the wake of the 2008 financial crash the father ricky deciding his only option is to join the 0 as online delivery and as the father ricky deciding his only option is to join the 0 as online delivery industry ken loach and paul laverty join me now paul thanks for both being on going under strict ken loach and paul laverty join me now paul thanks for both being on going underground once again people watching this right now know all about the fact the ground once again people watching this right now know all about the fact that theyre buying things online getting Home Delivery of goods this that theyre buying things online getting Home Delivery of goods this the. Orm the word choice comes up again and again in the verse for film the word choice comes up again and again in the 1st 510 minutes why the simple word choice. Well 10 minutes why the simple word choice. Well this is the propaganda that persuades people 2 weeks this is the propaganda that persuades people to exploit themselves loyal to the rug of the beer all of the. Normal work and conditional mode within the british works and workers would rather work his rights as a as an amazon employee. And then the Man Management business in this has chosen to find ways of needs to find ways of from their point of view fight has chosen to find ways of or needs to find ways of from their point of view find to be exploiting workers so that they they cut the cost of labor they cut the cost of exploiting workers so that they they cut the cost of labor they cut the cost of labor by having people know its seen as employees but it is socalled celeb it by having people know is seen as employees but is so called self employed delivering services if theyre self employed delivering services sofa employed delivering services if theyre self employed delivering services they have no trade union rights they have their holiday pay they sick pay they they have no trade union rights they have no holiday pay they sick pay they tell you will take all the risks in this case of drivers. Detail take all the risks in this case of drivers. Hiring their own van of buying their own van incurring costs and yet the wage of hiring their own van of buying their own van incurring costs. And yet the wages they get depend on totally on the hours they put in and then my need to work 12 hours they get depend on totally on the hours they put in and then my need to work 12 hour day to get a basic living wage so the increase in exploitation of the day to get a basic living wage so the increase in exploitation is massive its a perfect system for the employer this is massive its a perfect system for the employer because they can turn the labor on and off like a tap but its presented as a choice because they can turn the labor on and off like a tap but its presented as a choice for the poor man or woman who has to spend their lives for the poor man or woman who has to spend their lives working for this company. Working for this company. To. Be gone. Just. Gone oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah it is but its all franchise when old visitations are written about how. Yeah it is but its all franchise when oldest asians are written about how these films made if i can before i mean as the writer conscious that you have these films made by Campbell Paul i mean as the writer conscious that you had that word choice in those initial stages to form an equivalent for that word choice in those initial stages. Formant the equivalent foreman of a ricky the star of the film he says its your choice a limb for ricky the star of the film and he says its your choice freedom is its a great conjuring trick it is as ken says you know a freedom is its a great conjuring trick it is as ken says you know him and the enemy talk to drivers and youre with them and then went on to the deposition and the emmy talks are drivers and youre with them and then went on to the day it was very hard to fake it with the so busines with time but well known to the day it was the sweetest some to let me try to hard to fake it with the so busines with time but well known to the day it was the sweetest some to let me trouble with them on the love of the parcels and the devil is always in the detail and naming trouble with them on the love of the parsons and the devil is always in the detail and they mean you see their d n you live it moment by moment over an entire if you see their d. And you live it moment by moment over an entire shift and you see them after 11 hours driving and the tighter the scanner they call it and you see them after 11 hours driving and the tighter the scanner they call it you know the handheld device and every single moment every Single Movement you know the handheld device and every single moment every Single Movement it tracks where they do they can telephone they can scan they can do absolutely everything went it tracks what they do they can telephone they can scan they can do absolutely everything with it and then at the end of this is its your choice i mean its all willian it really that and then at the end of this is its your choice i mean its all willian it really is a will in its like amazon with the Fulfillment Centers but when you see someone what kelly is or will in its like amazon with the Fulfillment Centers but when you see someone what can lay it out every single moment of the day as mourner talked you know its absolute total. Every single moment of the day as mourner talked you know its. Absolute total. Tax on. Banks on. Contact the customer. Was loads of money on time the customer. Was lonesome would you believe so i believe shes not a culprit so the mans. Name is on the so i believe shes from out of captaincy means. He is also the best man as they are of course the men always knows when i am chuck every possible way are of course theyre always knows my own truck every possible moment its a front door on the back door they report in the garden shed moma the front door on the front door they report in the garden shed they know what a lot is you mentioned one i take up the one of the richest in the world they own the i know what a lot is you mentioned one i take up the one of the richest in the world they own the Washington Post of drool obviously this film has nothing to do well get a good review there im sure here Washington Post of drew obviously this film has nothing to do well get a good review there im sure here you are this is about a Fictional Company yet all very forgettable you are this is about a Fictional Company yet all very forgettable. Yes and then this is the fictional bit. But yes and then this is the fictional bit. But the facts are there in the speak for themselves. The facts are there speak for themselves. But its true i mean the taking of i mean theres an involved in Film Production but its true i mean the taking of i mean theres an involved in Film Production. They maybe maybe make your next film then things as. They maybe maybe make your next film. I dont think theres so much i dont think other companies or available under you both of you you know i dont think other companies or available under you both of you you know the sort of the tory media is trumpeting the ideas of more and more employers the sort of the tory media is trumpeting the ideas of more and more employment in this country groups like the charge of the institute of personal development claim in fact the gig economy mint in this country groups like the charge of the institute of personal development claim in fact the gig economy and zeros contract the public is misplaced is what these different forces and they have think 100 drugs the public is misplaced is what these different forces and they have think tanks that are really produced on news programs and so you hear that they think times are wonderful only and thanks to the really produced good news programs and so you know you do the think tanks are wonderful only and you know what might suggest that some of the think tanks do is they throw away their calculator throw away you know what might suggest that some of the think tanks do is they throw away their calculator throw away the forms to throw away their algorithms and what they do is sit and talk to the daily way for their forms they throw away their algorithms and what they do is sit and talk to the daily life of a care worker is be did for us ok and then youll see what time the quote you have a care worker has be did for us ok and then youll see what time the goat youll see them getting on a bus not to getting paid youll see them spending time in see them getting on a bus not to getting paid youll see them spending time in sometimes with patients with absolutely very very complicated needs medicines sometimes with patients with absolutely very very complicated needs medicines doubling continence sometimes dementia and then you get maybe 15 minutes or half an hour to double incontinence sometimes dementia and then you get maybe 15 minutes or a half an hour depending on your luck depending on the budget of the local authority you spend time with them and saying get busy painting on your luck depending on the budget of the local authority you spend time with. Them and saying get busy for a couple of hours in the morning youre busy for a couple hours at lunch time and in the evening for talking and then to for a couple of hours in the morning youre busy for a couple hours at lunchtime and in the evening for talking and then the middle of the day you have left dangling theres not enough time left to go back and they see the middle of the day you have left dangling theres not enough time left to go back and they see is sufficient you know shut up spend time with them speak to the people sufficient you know shut up go to spend time with them speak to the people and then you can talk with some authority but they are just propagandists and they have not spoken to and then you can talk with some authority but they are just propagandists and they have not spoken to people on the front line and they dont give a damn good. People on the front line and they dont give a damn. Im. Doing no im. Doing no. Look ive got 6 other people look on the same am i going to get them all that practiced look ive got 6 other people look on the same am i going to get them all that i practiced. Having the time for the years you. Have the time for the. Scale of your previous films like ladybird ladybird. In a sense scale your previous films like ladybird ladybird talked about this privatization of compassion what was different about this talk about this privatization of compassion what was different about this film. I think its more intense and its bound to get more film. I think its more intense and its bound to get more intent the exploitation because the whole it best into the free market is competition intent exploitation because the whole it best into. The free market is competition and its competition increasingly between big corporations they compete on quality and this competition increasingly between big corporations they compete on quality on price increasingly on price how do they do that they have to lower their labor cost price increasingly on price how do they do that they have to lower their labor costs they lower their labor costs by finding work labor that fit to reason have no responsibility to lower their labor costs by finding work labor that fit teresa have no responsibility no holiday pay no sick pay no long term commitment to the t. No holiday pay no sick pay no long term commitments haarlem far overnight so that way labor is cheaper says this constant haarlem far overnight so that way labor is cheaper says this constant downward pressure on labor costs and that means it must downward pressure on labor costs and that means it has to mean more exploitation and in the last 10 years 2 thirds of new job to mean more exploitation and in the last 10 years 2 thirds of new jobs are now precarious work so that means is not full employment are now precarious work so that means is not full employment certainly not full employment it is precarious workers hanging on. Certainly not from employment it is precarious work is hanging on by the skin of 80 and they know the problems of debt and deficit leads to homelessness by the skin of 80 and they know the problems of debt and deficit leads to homelessness homelessness is massively on the increase poverty simps homelessness is massively arming crease poverty simply from precarious workers be. We went to the food bottom precarious workers be. We went to the food banks and we found move more of the people needing food to putting some we found move more of the people needing food to put on the table were from families where one person was working so this it on the table were from families where one person was working so this is the working poor and when they course took of employment being stable is the working poor and when they course talk of employment being stable its the working poor theyre talking about and theyre very happy for them to be poor because it means the working poor theyre talking about and theyre very happy for them to be poor because it means theyll take any desperate out of desperation take any of this conceal take any desperate out of desperation take any of this and we do want to make out that this is an intensely human story over and we do want to make out that this is an intensely human story of a family trying to get to caribbean isnt it but you know you kind of the only time im really trying to get to caribbean is a book you know you kind of the only time where you perhaps see the words of new liberalism that people might recognize you perhaps either the words of new liberalism that people might recognize from the news is you suddenly say the miners strike that that occurs from. The news is you suddenly see the miners strike that that occurs in one seamless dragon more than rock is a quick succession of 20 way crash in one seamless dragon more than rock is a quick succession of 28 crash. Those 2. Of these so in but im going to make a very good point those 2. Of these so in but im going to make a very good point because you know what were not we dont say to our manifesto you know were trying because you know were were not we dont say to a manifesto you know were trying to do a portrait of a family so that must work forced to do a portrait of a family so that must work forced but truthful stories resonate it was a critical moment not because you know but truthful stories resonate it was a critical moment because you know and abbie and ricky in this film they were process in the mortgage the boat to get a mortgage abbie and ricky in this film they were process in the mortgage the boat to get a mortgage and if they had go on the property ladder then a radically changed leaves and for many millions and if they had go on the property ladder then a radically change that leaves and for many millions of people know who can get a mortgage theres not enough properties so rent as people know who can get a mortgage theres not enough properties so rent is very very high and its insecure so the tension that creates for families is remarkable very very high and its insecure so the tension that creates for families is remarkable and so people on modest incomes more or more of their income is being taken up and so people on modest incomes more or more of their income is being taken up above by rent and you see this again and again and its very interesting just come back up by rent and you see this again and again and its very interesting just come back from him you know from france and in showing the film and video places and its not this is not from him. You know from france and in showing the film and video places and its not this is not just a surreal north east of england you see the same reality again through just a surreal north east of england you see the same reality again throughout europe this transcends breaks it you know we were there miss or chamber workers it europe this transcends breaks it you know we were there miss or chamber workers cleaners could hear drivers all what can make model all precarious work all cleaners could hear drivers all what can make model all precarious work all up to they are all fuel yes i do many of them on strike and are seen no more slop to the all fuel yes i do many of them on strike and are seen no more so that as a fight back on to the surface to have to see these connections Different Countries in frauds obviously is a good as a fight back under the surface of the have to see these connections Different Countries in frauds obvious is a palme dor nominated film actress and director. Below me needs of vilma actress and director. But does this strike to business starkey because you lose your. Universe but this strikes a business stark a cosy elysia will. Universe will years from the strike here as well the strike of koreas in the years for gives her the choice here is well the strike of koreas in east london so people are fighting back but i think its important to echo will pull these london. People are fighting back but i think its important to echo what pool said i mean if people come to see the film theyre not going to hear polemic it i mean if people come to see the film theyre not going to hear polemic its its a family story with all the nuances in the contradictions and the affection that a familys story with all the nuances in the contradictions and the affection and the rounders and the the tension between albion and the. The the tension between being and and ricky has good parents possibly good parents and ricky has good parents possibly good parents but exhausted not kids without the patience to deal with their own family im a bit to drink has been exhausted now kids without the patience to deal with their own family im a bit too great because in it you know in the young life. Recently said you know hes hes 15 and you know in the young life the. Recently said you know hes hes 15 and a lovely present and the little girl is wonderful kitty protest you know she was the ship and the lovely presents and the little going to his wonderful kitty protege you know she was the she was the closest couldnt a class and the really smart grins thinkin that she yeah they she was a clueless couldnt class and the really smart grins thinkin that yeah they should i was also what she wanted to be when she left school she said she thought she would like be a doctor there is also what she wanted to be when she left school she said she thought of as she would like be a doctor i think there was says there will be a doctor proctor. I think there was that says it will be dr proctor. The information. The information. Rove already in the computer program. But he drove all the computer program. But he never almost. Always on spec you. Never. Publish on spec he. Can never stay silent. I mean if he never goes to trial. I mean if. Everything. The interim brains for manager well. The interim brains for manager well on on a bit more seriously really comes to health care this walk on a bit more seriously really comes to health care and yes what people might find really alarming is the story of abby the the wife of. People my friend really alarming is the story of abby the the wife in the film because each of you have privatized outsource contract is for the National Health service film because each will you have privatized outsource contract is for the National Health service or Adult Social Care they dont have a machine like ricky does the Adult Social Care they dont have a machine like ricky does but they seem to be operating on a machine with the most vulnerable elderly people in the country well they seem to be operating on a machine with the most vulnerable elderly people in the country well i mean its so fragmented theres different types of systems but tame you know many of the i mean its so fragmented theres different types of systems but tame you know many of the people we met again were they were a they were subcontracted to a Company People we met again they were a they were subcontracted to a company which meant their own 0 hours contracts they have to phone and they have to measure their time as well and meant their own 0 hour contracts they have to phone and they have to measure their time as well. And what was really remarkable was gruesome it something toxic killers i mean these people are not in and what was really remarkable was gruesome it something toxic killers i mean these people amount of money i mean some of the people we met were obsolete james if you had the money i mean that some of the people we met were obsolete james if you had the you know a sick sick parent a grandfather you would want these people to be with them you know a sick. Sick parent grandfather you would want these people to be with them and them you know so many of the said these all the people have got the rate and then develop a name you know so many of the said these all the people have got the rate at the end of adelaide suffer from dementia to see the same face every single the and thats what they wanted but the say suffers from dementia to see the same face every single the and thats what they wanted but the system would know i love it and the pressures they were under were remarkable and all these people who would know i love it and the pressures they were under were remarkable and all these people who accuse us of exaggerating all those think tanks that you mentioned those people say theres no problems with with with choosers of exaggerating all those things that you mention those people say theres no problems with with with with them you know with a good economy and 0 contracts one of the kid assured me you know with a good economy and 0 contracts one of the kid assured me our foreign and our day off she was contacted 57 times not for another day off she was contacted 57 times that day big enough to come in i mean i saw the phone you know if we had a big enough to come and i mean i saw the phone you know if we had that the film people have accused us of exaggerations. About the film people have accused us of exaggerations. Theyre more for them both after this short break. Or for them both after this short break. All across the middle east and beyond there are large scale protests. All across the middle east and beyond there are large scale protests growing political instability in many countries the old ways of doing business growing political instability in many countries the old ways of doing business only in rich privileged elite while the prospects for the many are few and fears of only. In rich privileged elites while the prospects for the many are few and far in between the elites have answers. Far in between the elites have answers. We sure as talking surprise us which was a surprise for me i will almost we sure as talking surprise us which was a surprise for me i was on the council long but that thought well because these are media people wars on the council all of the above that thought well this is these are media people they come to found their own kind so no need to trouble myself about it they come to found their own kind so no need to trouble myself about it so i wasnt ready for the magnitude of things happening when so i wasnt ready for the magnitude of things happening that when they began to happen it was the spine that society as it is was or they began to happen it was the sign that the society as it is was reading. What it sees a 1000 times were done just waiting to we asked what it sees a 1000 times were done jobs. Welcome back and. Welcome back im still with ken loach then we knew liberalism is what im still with ken loach. New liberalism is what looks like in public me it is killing the love to me looks like. And probably mean it is killing the love these 2 people merely well it makes it very hard for them to you know when youre under stress either well it makes it very hard for them to you know when youre under stress you dont have you dont have the patience you dont have the Emotional Energy to commit yourself to enter you dont have the patience you dont have the Emotional Energy to commit yourself to for moments of enjoyment for moments of relaxation i mean rickys work into the moments of enjoyment for moments of relaxation i mean rick is working 1214 hours a day 6 days a week at least maybe more i mean 14 hours a day 6 days a week at least maybe more i mean the exhaustion dries up emotion doesnt it at the exhaustion dries up emotion doesnt it. And were going back to will pull said i mean clearly clearly were going back to will pull said i mean clearly clearly that social care is part of our Health Service in real whatever how we organize it that social care is part of our Health Service in real whatever how we organize it and surely the obvious answer is that if it becomes part of the Health Service and surely the obvious answer is that if it becomes by the Health Service and the people are doing this extraordinarily important work our pump and the people are doing this extraordinary important work are on permanently employed on proper contracts with a set in each day so that they permanently employed on proper contracts with a set in each day so that they get a proper wage for the work they do and the qualifications they need get a proper wage for the work they do and the qualifications they need and they can plan their own lives and take care of their own families any sensible need. They can plan their own lives and take care of their own families any sensible its the mature way to pay and the idea that a casual workers will just go and spend 50. 00 mature way to pay and the idea that their casual workers will just go and spend 50 minutes to underscore the poor old lady with dementia is just cream in it to underscore the poor old lady with dementia is just criminal and the total lie of me as a kid so much for these older people but that whatever middle and the total lie of me as a kid and so much for these older people but that whatever the children by can you know and i think theres a agree untold story and i think well see the children by court you know and i think theres a agree untold story and i think well see the consequences and in years to come i think were seeing it play in from our eyes just now you know the crazy the consequences and years to come i think were seeing it play in from our eyes just now you are the cases where young people may have crane you know people left their own devices will you show the dog i know of people my crane you know people left their own devices will you show the domino effect and do School Exclusion in the School Exclusion the whole saw a little wiser gee i can do School Exclusion in the School Exclusion the whole saw a little wiser jean his 11 shes taken on the role of a kid already you know she sees and seen his 11 shes taken on the role of a kid already you know she sees and smells trist stress in the family she wants to manage it she doesnt want our loved ones to be faith in the snow stressed stressed in the family she wants to manage it she doesnt want our loved ones to be faith in each other you know and i think shes quicker and clever than our father for example you know but lots of these kids are other you know and i think shes quicker and cleverer than our father for example you know but lots of these kids and i i take it on rules of the should be doing at the age of 11 and i know and they know him and i take it on rules that they should be doing at the age of 11 you know and then him and your heart having to get our teenage brother up and i think theres also a very i think theres a can your heart having to get our team is. Brother up and i think theres also a very i think theres a critical period in teen years too where if you dont if youre not with them and you dont see them you dont appear to teen years to where if you dont if youre not with them and you dont see them you dont know who theyre with you dont know where the living through you know and if you only see them for a shop at a time youre who theyre with you dont know with a living through you know and if you only see them for a short time youre tired and youre back on orders have you done your homework have you done this have you done not you know its tired and youre back on orders have you done your homework have you done this have you done not you know boil was the capacity of those relationships to flood a good lawyer was the capacity of those relationships to flood good roots the heart of family life in this market just what lies are really roots the heart of family life in this market just what lies are used to be you know whats top sets what is going on just give just to be you know whats top sets what is going on just give yourself some choices may said lets talk just sell some choices may fab lets talk about basically you who really work and believe coughlans before 50 basically you. Go really work and believe coughlans go off 57. 00 runs in debt and walk good in a course and are now and smushed every weekend just to be something wrong in that and what would in a cause and allow and smushed every week and it just got its problems of course the last to go out those it isnt going to these problems of course. I dont have to go out those are the simple jobs all their jobs market jobs there is just not cool down jobs all that good jobs market jobs there is just not cool down. There is so small if you strayed not right you know. It is so small if you strayed not right you know thousands and millions of people measure the cause and that any surprise and millions of people measure the cause and is there any surprise that there are so much problems with teen age and Mental Health is never teach that there are so much problems with teen age and Mental Health is never teach with children as well who which again of course is totally the carry over as well who which again of course is totally the care is totally inadequate for Mental Health some of golde of the privatization of stress totally inadequate for Mental Health some of golde of the privatisation of stress when it goes to Mental Health but when ricky talks to his son about university anybody goes to Mental Health but when ricky talks to his son about university and Bernie Sanders running for 20 twentieths abolition of tuition fees there over here this problem does running for 20 twentieths abolition of tuition fees there over here theres pride from the liberal democrats in the conservatives that they brought in that in this film and from the liberal democrats in the conservatives that they brought in that in this film the protagonist that just says theres no point in going in that the protagonist that just says theres no point in going in that you know and coming out of university in this country you know well be getting to 50000 chris the thing and coming out of university in this country you know well be getting to 50000 chris at the death and then working to get come to me we say the right wing think tanks prays to death and then working in the gig come to me we see the. Right wing think tanks praise. Aides will one shooter where the propaganda its very transparent its well once youre aware the propaganda its very transparent its a joke but im afraid they they are in so many of much of the means of communication done this a joke but im afraid they they are in so many of much of the means of communication that the propaganda gets purchased you know the creation of the feds the propaganda gets purchased you know the creation of the free market with freedom and there will be talk about the free the free world and the remarkable freedom you know we talk about the free the free world and equate it with a free market you know only game with a country of language that is created with a free market you know only game with a country of language that is very little about them watching all consuming media of any kind theres very little about them watching or consuming media of any kind theres one scene where theyre just too tired to watch the t. V. Or hear because it poverty theres one scene where theyre just too tired to watch the t. V. Because it poverty porn on the t. V. The programs in britain they have shame in the poor a what was it a horn on the t. V. Programs in britain they have shame in the poor or what was it on their watch oh it was no it was it was a stag party in Eastern Europe i thought they were watching oh it was no it was it was a stag party in Eastern Europe i think where blokes were getting how many cheap burgers. Were saying where blokes were good and how many in cheap burgers and that was just coincidental. Producer of poverty porn i think that its just coincidental. To do the poverty porn i think that theres just 2 steps to programs one is to meet this to 2 steps a. One is demeaning people who need help you know benefits treating a living people who need help you know a bit benefits treating all the rest you know how these grotesque poor people who obviously rest you know how these grotesque poor people who are obviously they we should just despise them and theres also the programs were shipping in the entrepreneur you know where where you come you can be a success you know you start your own business we should just despise them and theres also the programs were shipping in the entrepreneurs you know where where you come you can be a success you know you start your own business. And the president of the United States one is now president yes yes and yes. And the president of the United States one is now president yes yes and the ellen show others did as it here. But that to get there is the ellen show others did as it here. But that again you know the worship of the entrepreneur the demeaning of the poor the complimentary you know the worship of the entrepreneur the demeaning of the poor the complimentary and also the lies or the so opposed to 20 so this with me did the previous film i daniel bleak and also the lies or the so opposed to 20 or so this with me did the previous film i daniel bleak you know this Massive Campaign you know against welfare fraud and that and welfare you know this Massive Campaign you know against welfare fraud and that and welfare fraud like you know call for it should be should be examined but in the you know the general fraud lake you know call for it should be should be examined but in the you know the general population for 34 percent of the welfare budget was traditionally cleaned but as i sleep a little pollution for 34 percent of the welfare budget was traditionally cleaned it was actually less than than than 0. 6 percent so theres a grandmaster pace than than than 0. 6. Percent so theres a grandmaster bly a leave rate to the heart of british politics and of course that was fine by osborne and lie a leave rate to the heart of british politics and of course that was fine by osborne and he says you know his speeches remember the twitching window of the work of the Tory Party Conference so its nice you know his speeches remember the twitching window of the work of the Tory Party Conference so its not an accident you know they create a framework they create a narrative and again a thing is always a good not an accident you know they create a framework they create a narrative and again a thing is always a good question to ask yourself whos got the power whos framing the narrative you know who claims about for the question to ask yourself whos got the power whos framing the narrative you know who claims about freedom who claims the worlds efficiency its like going back to a great friend mr jeff bezos one of them who claims the worlds efficiency is like going back to a great friend mr jeff bezos one of his Leadership Principles as speed matters you know speed matters as much Leadership Principles as speed matters you know speed matters as much as to the worker whos picking up an item every seconds you know thats not the smartest of the worker whos picking up an item every seconds you know thats not the speech hes talking about he speaks be the speed. Begin to this is the deed to the world and all of that is to the consumer and also the seed of dollars of dollars i dont know that into his but again payment he cant show but again for it he carries that phrase and it sounds wonderful here the Serious Fraud office has just in the bust few days and it sounds wonderful here the Serious Fraud office has just in the past few days that they are abandoning their investigation to lying about Interest Rates for you and he said that they are abandoning their investigation to lying about Interest Rates for you an Interest Rate setting as opposed to presumably the fraud even benefit claimants or will be just rate setting as opposed to presumably the for. Even benefit claimants or will for another theyve been reading a bit tony blair abandoning the investigation into saudi arabia you know maybe a bit another theyve been reading a bit tony blair abandoning the investigation into saudi arabia you know maybe they were just following president i should ask actually its just too much to put in the film just following president i should ask actually its just too much to put in the film that they would have been watching because while this is going on here obviously the government that they would have been watching because while this is going on here obviously the government is involved in all sorts of money Spending Plans whether it be for is involved in all sorts of money Spending Plans whether it be foreign wars or whatever and you didnt want to just clip that or it would it would hurt the narrative wars or whatever you didnt want to just clip that or it would it would hurt the narrative i mean you have to be very careful that things are now on the nose the you know when youre talking about a story youre going to believe i mean you have to be very careful that things are not on the nose the you know when youre talking about a story youre going to believe this family as poaching what it would have been if you like your same posting stuff yeah i mean a family as watching what it would have been if you like your same posting stuff yeah i mean every day we just undermine that very delicate thing i think you have when you deny fiction here i mean its just undermine that very delicate they think you have really you know deny fiction here i mean and you have to stay with the consciousness of the characters as well but in a way the journey of the film is that and you have to stay with the consciousness of the characters as well but in a way the journey of the film is the journey of rickys consciousness he still its of committed to the idea of being is a journey of rickys consciousness he still its of committed to the idea of being is making a fortune well making the money to buy a house and he ends up also making a fortune well making the money to buy a house and he ends a prisoner in the cab knowing hes a person in the cab and knowing hes been sold a lot in the cab knowing hes a person in the cab and. Hes been sold a lie said the way that the journey rick is consciousness and i think also said the way that the journey rick is consciousness and i think also i base consciousness because at the end when it when a husband is this consciousness because at the end when when a husband has been beaten up and hes hes hes completely knocked about in cash been beaten up and hes hes hes completely knocked about in casualty and theyre imposing fines on him over the phone for italy and theyre imposing fines on him over the phone for what for the accident his driver for the destruction hes been in there when hes been worse for the accident his driver for the destruction hes been in there when hes been beaten up i mean again she realizes what the country shes 6 theyve experienced i mean again she realizes what a country shes 6 theyve experienced. You worked on so many films together is their story and. You worked on so many films together is there historical parallels with this machine that we keep keep talking about the ricky carries sly oracle parallels with this machine that we keep keep talking about the ricky carries slide rule and stopwatch as being. Something theres just a moral and stopwatch as being. Something theres just a more advanced version of the control of work it will its or advanced version of the control of work it will its a good question because and then in different moments you know weve looked at this bill in britain really good question because and then in different moments you know we were glued to this village in britain rosies bellew to the cleaners and in los angeles you know who they were exploited posies bellew to the cleaners and in los angeles. You know who they were exploited by these gun corporations again their intent was angelus and the very militant come pain it does good on corporations again they intend los angeles and the very militant come pain to try and feed back and we did it again and its a free world you know with then try and feed back and we did it again and its a free world you know with them exploiting American Labor and again you know and you know it exploited in American Labor and again you know and you know agency work you know so as i said a common theme and i work on but i think its also agency work you know so as i said a common theme in our work and but i think its also its not bags and because its such a big part of our lane doesnt it is the dome and its not bags and because its such a big part of our lane doesnt it is the dominant is the dominant theme of our economic structure the extraction of is the dominant theme of economic structure the extraction of surplus value from workers by employers to make profits uplift value from workers by employers to make profits its the simplest simplest. Account of art its the simplest simplest. Account of our Economic System and so im of course in competition the struggle for certain Economic System and so im of course in competition the struggle for surplus value gets wide tense and last take knowledge it develops the use of that uplifts value gets way intense and that take knowledge it develops the use of that and that technology to extract that surplus value gets more sophisticated its take knowledge and to extract that surplus value gets more sophisticated its such a simple story and this began form you know from the invention of the such a simple story and this began form the. From the invention of the. Spinning january was the Industrial Revolution up to now and its spinning january was the Industrial Revolution up to now and its simple and what is remarkable thing too is i mean it has developed and its simple and what is remarkable thing too is i mean it has developed the technology seems to but those same principles you know were always there but Even Technology seems to but those same principles you know were always there but even the late Financial Times 2 weeks ago and also the New York Times just a couple days ago in the late Financial Times 2 weeks ago and also the New York Times just a couple of days ago in an absolute whole areas article it was written by a billionaire you said you know really we should we can absolutely as article it was written by a billionaire you said you know really we should be giving away one percent of our income and i mean it was laughable but they were saying if not the whole think giving away one percent of our income i mean it was laughable but they were saying if not the whole thing could collapse in a fall in sales because the any quality is new so groups collapse in fall and because the any quality is new so groups now thats the Financial Times that your team saying that they obviously want to regulate it they talk about sheep and thats the Financial Times that your team saying that they obviously want to regulate it they talk about humanizing a couple isnt but i think it begs the question that those beasts like you know womanizing couple isnt but i think it begs the question that those beasts like you know above mentioned you know obviously for the crush the competition is in the above mentioned you know obviously for the crush the competition is in the nature of the beast to compete and they must the one or the one that eventually so they didnt get each of the beast to compete and they must the one or the one that eventually so they did he could regulate it is ridiculous why do you think people believed it then when regulated is ridiculous why do you think people believe. Then when britain 1st told and in china they call it the western economic crisis people were told and 1st told and in china they call it the western economic crisis people were told and it comes back to go where the choice people have to make tough choices. And it comes back to your word choices people have to make tough choices when when governments were asked about the cutting of Public Services and when when governments were asked about the cutting of Public Services and thats asked about the privatization ledley. Well i mean the thats asked about the privatization ledley. Well i mean the idea of capitalism is very strong in it its its been the dominant ideology its the idea capitalism is very strong in it its its been the dominant ideology its like like religion in the middle ages its the dominant ideology and perhaps like like religion in the middle ages its the dominant ideology and i have to say the the idea of socialism is weak and not least say the the idea of socialism is weak not least because of what happened in russia and the dominance of standing in the purges in the goosed because of what happened in russia and the dominance of standing in the purges in the gulags and all the rest so if if capitalism if stalin and had the exact likes and all the rest so if if capitalism if stalin and had they existed capitalism which had to invent and in it because it it was the perfect capitalism which had to invent it in it because it was the perfect propaganda for the west. But i think the very propaganda for the west. But i think the contradictions of this system are now as intense and say blatant that peter contradictions of this system are now are so intense and say blatant that people are as paul says starting to think again i mean the idea of caring capitalism as paul says starting to think again i mean the idea of caring capitalism is is as selfcontradictory. Is is. Selfcontradictory cannot see the nature of the beast the line cannot lie down with the lamb they too think whats the nature of the beast the line cannot lie down with the lamb the 2 things cant they cant coexist just very briefly i go to ask if you know that the chairman of the can if they can coexist just very briefly i go to ask you you know that the chairman of the conservative party last time around talked about your i dont know blake phil saying it was fiction not adults of the party last time around talked about your i dont know blake field and saying it was fiction not a document you would you expecting this to have much the same case say it again i mean the occulus jordi expecting the much the same case a the game i mean did it put a few 1000 on these and they were tendencies to come of euros cages tories they put a few 1000 on these and they were tendencies to come out of us cages tories and abusers i mean its yeah the best thing back in the day i mean the abusers i mean its yeah the best thing back in the day i mean. Mary whitehouse attacked us for telling the truth about a neighbor has a merry white house attacked us for telling the truth about backseat abortions and abusing the bad language and it was the best thing that actually to abortions and abusing the bad language and it was the best thing that ever happened i mean it started back my career as a you know come out of year come out it happened i mean it started back my career as a you know come out of you come out of your oath tories and never go it is because were waiting for ken loach for levity thank you both tories and have a go it is because were waiting for ken loach for levity thank you sorry we missed you is out on friday in british irish cinemas after the show will be back on saturday q sorry we missed you is out on friday and british irish cinemas after the show will be back on saturday 23 years to the david to the shooting of britains h. M. S. Vigilant today telling you 3 weapon. 23 years to the david commissioning of britains h. M. S. Vigilance today got a new 3 weapons the new days multi 100000000000. 00 weapons of mass Destruction Program until then can be judged by thousands in the u. K. s multi 100000000000 dollar weapons of mass Destruction Program until then can be judged by social media dont forget to try to i use your job. As a lead yet dont forget to subscribe to our you tube channel. Cooked additional submersed if so im not on what was. Cooked additional submersed if so im not on what was announced at the callender some nice its just a butcher looking its nice to know whats up there to linger some nice its just a butcher looking its nice to know. Somebody has seen in my future notional postman. Looks simple yet so in my future notional postman. Look with a showing at the blue sky leasing is lost when the church. You think will kick off with a showing of the blue sky leasing is lost when the church dont you think it will show. Your patients the need to vote im not sure. You have the same standing to vote up shipping. Yep and most of those the book hit the wall were for the shipping. Yep and most of those the book hit the wall were for the books and you will still lose you know i dont know what the foreseeable have still to say no i dont know what that or. If it was the latest. Whos the latest news in the focus. For using them right so you have put a move to some of. Your Research Studies in the focus. Or easy. To yet have put them into some. Lyricists through some really stupid. To some really stupid. It does these. During the dot com bubble. During the dot com bubble all there was a lot of problems with c. E. O. s an insider dumping style ball there was a lot of problems with c. E. O. s an insider dumping stock right after the i. P. O. There should be a lockup period to force people right after the i. P. O. There should be a lockup period to force people keep people to stay on for a least 6 months or a year to make sure the stall keep people to stay on for a least 6 months or a year to make sure this thing gets out of the gate without too many problems here in this era i think gets out of the gate without too many problems here in this era that we work being a primary example the founder insider was able to we work being a primary example the founder insider was able to dump almost a 1000000000. 00 before the i. P. O. Able to dump almost a 1000000000 dollars before the i. P. O. Believing in weird thing. Believing weird things by the way this called superstition or magical thinking believing weird things like that. By the way this is called superstition or magical thinking believing weird things like that is not a bug in the system its a feature it comes equipped is not a bug in the system its a feature comms equipped in the software of our program to try to connect things in the environment just in the software of our program to try to connect things in the environment just in case theres a real connection. To case theres a real connection. In the u. K. An inquiry into the deadly 2017 grid. In the u. K. An inquiry into the deadly 2017 Grenfell Tower blaze calls out significant systemic failings in the london fire brigade and full time ablaze calls out significant systemic failings in the london fire brigade with little spotlight placed on city and government authorities qualifies as a box with little spotlight placed on city and Government Office or a cease Fire Fighters have told us the focus is misplaced far far as to not have told us the focus is misplaced for fawaz did not cause the fall of the prince time off was of no responsible for fixing a from a bill calls the fall of the prince turn off was of no responsible for fixing a from the from old material on the outside of the towers. A new report. From who. Saw the photo of. A new report by Human Rights Watch says u. S. Sanctions are preventing ordinary iranians from by Human Rights Watch says u. S. Sanctions are preventing ordinary iranians from accessing lifesaving medicine. And meets with accessing longer saving medicine. And meets with Prime Minister viktor orban irritating western allies on the same day of hungary and Prime Minister viktor orban irritating western allies on the same day that