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And started to beat me with clubs and with stones. With clubs on my soul i tried to defend myself with my head and broke my. Media in the United States come up with a new catchphrase to denigrate the unconventional views of president ial hopefuls. Good evening to you watching our. U. K. Prime minister Boris Johnson has failed in his latest bid to get a vote on his new brigs it deal to the house of Commons Speaker blocks the governments move to table a meaningful vote. Todays circumstances substance the same the saturday circumstances my ruling is therefore that the motion will not be debated today as it would be repetitive and disorderly to do so. Well Boris Johnson was hoping for a meaningful monday but in the words of the man himself the meaningful vote has been void of meaning and thats how it all enjoyed the speaker. And he actually refused to drive Boris Johnson. On his deal for various reasons including the fact that he said it was repetitive it would be disorderly to do so not to mention of course the site that. Today is not emergency sitting session what they concluded was that there would be in fact an extension to the threats that situation today there is all about us. Then heres the deal and then a across the house of taken to condemn him for not even turning up himself the Prime Minister has no going to grace us with his presence today but im reassured this is because it is spying to splurge hes not to be found anywhere in a ditch its a question to the Prime Minister and its a question about the Prime Ministers behavior where is he well as you can see the dramatic scenes in the commons over the last few days has caused uproar and outrage on the streets of london and on saturday we saw quite dramatic scenes were taking place mark a hard line president said he was accosted on the street and even had to have trees escort him and his son home safely. Well as you can see theres a worrying trend as brecks has become bettany divisive with m. P. s politicians but also with the popular can in fact is not just a caprice mark has borne the brunt of all of this weve also seen the wife of like. She too was accosted on the streets. With his son it must have been a frightening experience to be surrounded by that i have children as well i can only read you get aggression in the street and its quite scary for that he should be able to take his son to parliament if he wants to and he should be ok for him to come to that would been shouted at what actually far and wide to be on because we saw clashes on saturday between pro and anti brooks it is on the one hand many wish to see another referendum to stop this process again because they believe the Political Landscape has dramatically changed since 2016 on the flip side many people say lets just get breaks it down once and for all. Just to mention Boris Johnson and his colleagues in parliament have been criticised for the language and rhetoric that this conundrum has conjured up in parliament such language for instance talking about the ben bill has been described as a surrender rock and its those words that kind of language which has sparked controversy online many of which are even threatening m. P. s individually Death Threats for that matter in terms of the bricks it starts as of today there will be no meaningful vote but the issue is just 10 days before the october 31st deadline and the Boris Johnson is really relying on that moment and trying to get his back the deal through. The law number of journalists nuclear deal with the question that someone im familiar with the russian put to me the other day they said i dont understand the people of u. K. Want briggs voted for it the Prime Minister of the u. K. Sprigs it why doesnt it happen and i thought that was a pretty good question so ill give you the chance to answer it it is a very good question but the problem was. A problem we have a parliament. So called Representative Democracy in britain and weve shows and i think what the referendum is showing this is a disconnect between direct democracy which is what the referendum was and indirectly last season which is the system we have parliamentary democracy because basically well. The majority of m. P. s are either program main or faith forward grex it that many would argue in name only so noble in other words weve got this problem but weve got. A parliament that doesnt really reflect Public Opinion when that vote came through in 202016. Basically. The m. P. s of course that elected 2017 we actually got more votes to remain in parliament we could we had the 400 trees make all that electing 282017 neal because he felt the parliament was trying to. Trying to implement assembly but in fact little more of a remains tolerant of the 7. In 27000 so thats why we had this deadlock and strong who. Like being so difficult for to get back 6 hearts to be sure to get on saturday which was supposed to be Super Saturday the day after of can finally this thing was going to be done helpless and a poll to get it delayed yet again and areas of here certainly the same has been made the british m. P. s are doing their own bidding what they want rather than what their constituents want and its an allegation thats been put towards the Speaker John Bercow accused of being biased lets just have a listen to some of the climbs. Becoming remarkable how often you please one lot and not the other. But the only consistency one can find in your rulings is that they always seem to favor one side of the argument and never the governments who are trying their best to carry out the mandate given to them by the british people in 26 days and so on please learn how people is this just frustration showing now and then burka really is biased what he. Sees progress. And weve got to be careful dont go over the top of this their career whether it is true to say that generally when you wanted to play the procedural what when he come back to his skin made the guy on parliament treat every play like its done today because he said that we cant have this meaningful vote today because we had it basically on saturday night you know then he does favor the program 8 side but equally other times he has a bit like this is the more creatively sort of throw it out the procedure book out of the window so to speak when its favored the pro remain side so he has been selected there is disquiet about him i think hes become to the prom parties and if you like basically neal weve got an english civil war british civil war going here make a Committee Just like the 6040 s. And its quite similar that weve got the same kind of divides as we had then everybody everything coming here politicized and seeing through this press it prism are you are im a no or a lever i regard just like it was in the 16th fortys its become incredibly acrimonious which and thats why i think the majority of the look at the country now is please can we just get this sorted i think that to propose m. P. s who are cheering a member so overjoyed on saturday when we hadnt heard the delay i think theyve got to the public mood neal because i think even tensions percentage you remain is now are getting to the stage where look it would be the best for all of us if we could just get some some resolution of this instead of carrying on and on and i think that the i must say here that i do believe the labor party is missed this is mistaken and its wrong in its policy now of seeking a 2nd referendum thats the last thing that most people want 2nd referendum to take 22 weeks at least to organize and can you imagine this going through this for another for at least another 22 weeks now the best thing is i think is it is if we get this result as soon as we can use. From both sides of the politicians including Boris Johnson refusing to sign a letter that he was forced to send 1000000. 00 question do you think his deal will get voted through or not. The point here is i think what the opposition to it going to do is going to to vote against what we call the time limit bill tomorrow because the government is trying to get street 3 days right 100 page. Deal to look through the opposition in the remain as a saying look east far too practical to time and that is a key vote tomorrow is going to be this government going to try to put a socalled guillotine on this and probably possibly i think that if i was a betting man id say they probably just fail on this and at that time it wont go through them piece going to say look we need more time thats going to be the strategy we need more time will the bill get through it does i think the odds are it will get through it will we will go beyond the deadline october 31st at that there will probably probably have to be a further small extension but provided the investments are not too drastic. If they are Boris Johnson just pull the bill all the bill but if theyre not too drastic then i think the probability is that the bill will go through given the fact that were saying hes got a majority about 5 or 6. Who would support the bill at the important 3rd rate it will probably go through but will probably have a further delay. Here amazing to think of the 3 and a bit years still people talking about needing more many thanks. Neil journalist neil clark thanks. Max the attackers have brutally beaten an elderly rabbi in the west bank while he was helping palestinian farmers to pick olives for the volunteers including foreign nationals were also injured farming questions located near an israeli settlement and the rabbi suspects thats where the attackers were from. Were picking all the eaves. Suddenly we heard shouts in hebrew. Go away go away we dont deal with it with. People who started to run away you could we are not violent of course we are against any violence whatsoever they came with clubs i dont clubs and stones in the old people you know were run away but im. 80 years old it was it would be difficult for me after all between when away they returned to me for 5 people and started to beat me with clubs and with stones i dont agree with the clubs on my head so i just try to defend myself with my hand through the broken. I mean plaster now. And stones one of the stones. To my head and it was totally the people probably form the settlement called gets how the. Jewish school. In the students know for the violence and for aggression in the us this is actually the reason that we are we all of the to defend the palestinians from them. Was really a place of last investigation while the settlers claim that the farmers and volunteers posed a potential threat by coming too close to the outpost and the more settlements are being built every year in the west bank this is seen as an illegal occupation by both palestinians and the International Community some 200 localities are sprung up over the last 50 Years Television authorizes most of them home to over half a 1000000 Israeli Citizens clashes between palestinian and jewish communities flare up frequently in the region rabbi you heard i says that he wants the fighting to stop. Politically i think the palestinians deserve the right for sort of that the mission is we jews all right for you didnt in israel i think the 2 states where the stadium is where you should leave each other next to the other. The but unfortunately you know type in many. But our aim is that organization is most polluted. Human is human and we do our best to to. Us democrat 2020 hopeful to sit back claims that shes getting help from russia the allegation was made by Hillary Clinton who blames moscow for her own defeat in 2016. Theyve got their eye on somebody whos currently in the democratic primary and theyre grooming her to be the 3rd Party Candidate shes a favorite of the russians they have a bunch of sites and bot other ways of supporting or so far but if they can falsely portrayed me as a traitor then they can do it to anyone and in fact thats exactly the message that they want to get across to you that if you stand up against hillary and the party powerbrokers if you stand up to the rich and powerful elite and the war machine they will destroy you and discredit your message. Hillary clintons remarks came after russia was brought up in the latest party debate certain race topics now being branded as kremlin talking points to trying to explain. What youre about to see probably means its time for someone to go and we get pedia and come up with a page for one new yet already well established concept talking points that really came out of the kremlin from the talking points kremlin talking points of russia talking points kremlin talking points of kremlins talking points kremlin talking points is what i was talking about so why waste time on pronouncing the full 3 words if the kremlin talking points are really everywhere couldnt we just say katie ps that would probably save white house candidates a few seconds of their debating time anyway speaking of the democrat debates even saying Something Like this we have to that russia know look we get it weve tampered with the elections youve tempered with our elections and now it has to stop and if it does not stop we will take this is an act of hostility against the American People will get you katie p. Busted i now retract any vaguely nice thing i have a set a bad yank knowing Technology Things because he answered the question on putin with moral equivalency and the kremlin talking point it will take a few seconds of lets say googling to realize that andrew yang is making a valid point american journalists people working for the government have written about how the us pulled political strings abroad in the past but nowadays damn it cram one talking point alert comes the reaction heres Something Else from another candidate donald trump has the blood of the kurds on his hand but so do many of the politicians in our country from both parties wait for literally a kremlin talking point that whatever look apart from told seem pretty much everyone whos capable of doing a bit of research pointed that out all kinds of media ran the story on how different generations of d. Politicians turn their backs on the kurds so katie p. S. R. Haunting americans just about everywhere someone takes a hit at the democratic leadership for not being progressive kremlin talking point someone has a go on john mccain for being too belligerent kremlin talking point fears of a nuclear war. Talking point ill tell you what though why would a few absolutely sane people from way outside the kremlin walls would just call these comments or concerns legit points do you know any more examples for the k. T. P. We keep eating a page anyway at least its a bit of free publicity for moscows most famous landmark there are a number of ways that we can refute a particular case that were talking about in this instance number one is a call something a Conspiracy Theory Conspiracy Theory is when somebody said something which is usually drew that you dont like now we have a new version of this when you say this repeatedly kremlin talking point kremlin talking point people will start to believe it then when you say it when its received yes excellent you must be well read youve said kremlin talking point at least 6 times in that sentence welcome aboard remember the election is in 13 months instead of them worrying about what kind of world theyre going to be promising democrats or people who vote for them theyre talking about the kremlin and dusting off roofs so fall big red baiting nonsense. The u. K. Charities demanding the government comes to the rescue of Young Children born to isolate fighters a british origin and surgeon bill thirtys to make use of turkeys current ceasefire and its operation in syria to transfer children from the region. We have an opportunity in the next few days arrogantly to repatriate them to bring them back home these are children in 85 percent of them across these camps are under 12 and. More than nearly half are toddlers. They are not they are innocent children they are not responsible for the crimes that their parents have committed and we need to separate. And save the children claims that 60 british youngsters are now trapped in northeast syria where the Turkish Operation against socalled kurdish terrorists is under way the figure is twice the previously reported in g. A. O. Reports many children are under 5 years old they are all believed to be born to parents who left the u. K. To join Islamic State. Earlier this month the British Foreign secretary dominic robb stressed that unaccompanied minors and orphans could be taken back to britain without mentioning whats going to happen with those who still have one or both parents the u. K. Is believed to have started working with various agencies including the red cross to transfer some children to britain through iraq some 800 british citizens travel to join Islamic State earlier this year the u. K. Home of a spark of revoking citizenship of some of the wives of feisal fighters one of them should mean a big im left for Islamic State in 2050 blamed the u. K. Government for the death of her 3 week old son. Ok lets discuss this with Chris Phillips former head of the National Counterterrorism Security Office and with journalist and author Yvonne Ridley welcome to you both 1st to you chris to what extent do you think these children pose any threat if at all to british security. Well of course as children they are completely innocent and almost certainly they dont at this moment pose any threat i think the difficulty comes with those that are with their parents who have made the deliberate choice to go to these places and are potentially really very dangerous themselves so i think from the childrens perspective i can quite understand why they should be brought back into the u. K. But lets not pretend its going to be easy to reintroduce them back into the u. K. Or into Civil Society and if on would you agree with that the children are innocent they dont pose a threat absolutely those children are andersens i disagree britains position in. Very narrow citizenship i think that that is totally wrong its the actions of the tin cup dictatorship not a trench like britain and i think though citizenship should be restored we have a brilliant legal system. If those parents have committed offenses lets put them through as a colts but the priority is the children and as chris said those children are totally innocent. Chrisler the obviously different ages were talking about here lets say children maybe some teenagers whove seen one or both their parents killed in combat could they not bear a grudge against the nation of birth well yes a very much could do and i think looking after them will be a lifelong issue for or for society in the u. K. I think there is a big difference so i i do think as was mentioned before weve got some brilliant legal system thats going to protect the public well it just wont do that there is not going to be enough evidence to deal with the with the parents theres not going to be enough evidence because the people who have witnessed atrocities are going to be dead in iraq and syria so so i think we need to be realistic the children yes i can totally understand they should be brought back there will be a big issue for society to look after them but the parents im afraid ive got a completely different view of those. And do you distinguish in any way when it comes to the ages of the children presumably the older children could be seriously psychologically damaged by what theyve been through. Well we come from her social services and press. Solution to these problems. You know. Civilised nation. Let me look at. These. Older children. And they mean the sense to mean obviously they will be done much they are in a war so which is why it should be a priority to get them. Chris is there a certainty that the older children couldnt have been trained in any way to fight for Islamic State. Or no of course we dont know that and lets be honest were were going to were going to know very little about some of these people actually whether they are kids from british parents is another part of this but but but the point is that these people are at least kit children do need to come back to the u. K. We do need to make sure that our systems work i just dont believe that those people that have committed serious offenses if they do come back will receive any form of justice and i think we have to be careful because its ok same we should bring these people back book actually would you like them living next door to you know you probably wouldnt do and i think we need to make sure that weve got the systems in place and the lock up those people for as long as we possibly can that are a danger to us but the children of course should be treated differently and should be given every. Chance to to get themselves back into Civilized Society if one is more complicated maybe one parent is still alive or both parents to lie the socalled i sold child what do you do do you do you bring these children back and say you deserve a better life or do you just leave them to their fate. No you cant leave them in a war zone you know especially in that area because they would be in danger of being radicalized lets bring them home put them through counseling give them the backup in the care that they need and ask for their parents we do have a court system. And we should be able to put them through a legal system and deliver justice that would suit everyone you know we are a Sophisticated Society and we should be able to put these people through through the courts if i so want as a Sophisticated Society crissy you know how many times have we dealt with a situation like this the course must be you know in uncharted territory what do you think of it. Well lets be quite clear here that if these people do come back the vast majority if not all of them will not go through the court system they will be released into society some of them will be very very dangerous and in fact some of these children we call in them children depending on your a you know what you consider a child their age range but some of them will be very dangerous that this is bringing back problems but its not just a u. K. Problem this is a worldwide problem and and were now in a situation in syria where a lot of these camps are are lightnings people are going to be thrown out effectively into society over there and thats going to be dangerous as well so so i think the world needs to think strongly about how we deal with these these if they do come back to the u. K. They come back to europe its very unlikely theyll go into prison they will be in our society and weve got to make sure that theyre not given the opportunity to harm us if when you dont have any concerns whatsoever for there are several nations are seriously considering laws to ban related children from coming back to the nations there are concerns there you dont have any. I do have concerns but i also realize that britain has responsibilities and we have not our problems on the rest of the world the kurds are struggling at the moment to free the prisoners theyre struggling to keep them in a in a secure holding especially given the events of the last week or so where an ok this appalls in the not a ceasefire of holes in the fighting at the moment but we dont know how secure those Holding Facilities are and you know we britain must take responsibility and it is not doing that at the moment and i want to just put the point across to you chris for a final say if youre a british citizen youve got children you go abroad and you do Something Like joining Islamic State oh timidly does the u. K. Given how to take responsibility for those people whatever they did. Well certainly someones got to take responsibility for them theyve been theyve been dumped defectively into the hands of the kurds and its just been mentioned theyre going to struggle to maintain them in prisons in in syria so so somethings going to happen these people are going to either be released in syria and i think isis could theoretically reform in some form if its certainly if a lot of these people are released so do we bring these youngsters back yes probably we do but it theres real dangers with that and theres real dangers wherever these people end up because they are radicalized most of the youngsters will have been through some kind of radicalization piece they are going to be very dangerous and its all very well us bringing them back but someones got to live next door to them and someone may well end up dying as a result of one of these people coming back and just 30 seconds if you can just give you a chance to respond as well lets think chris its been a bit hysterical. The reaction were responsible nation we should take responsibility for our citizens and stop jumping our problems are the people who actually cant deal with the situation in terms ok that wraps things up really appreciate you time guys my guest former head of the National Counterterrorism Security Office Chris Phillips and journalist and author Yvonne Ridley thank you to both of you. Think. With the saving on the bow with the top stories and often. Do elections mean anything anymore well the ukrainians may have a new president and a new parliament but change comes slowly if at all in ukraine corruption and new nazis locked away for. Sure of how they were going on the ground 24 hours ahead of a Court Appearance by the brother religious Manchester Arena boma extradited from a libya destroyed by nato warplanes coming up in the show on the anniversary of wiki leaks iraq revelations exposing British Military incompetence we speak to the u. K. 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