A chemical factory. A scientific journal withdraws a study challenging the claim that the Syrian Government was to blame for a chemical attack in 2017 south of the article attracted fierce criticism. Of the research. I was accused of being. Biased toward the assad regime well im not biased toward the assad regime i just think we ought to understand what happened. Live from moscow thanks for joining us and r. T. International im Daniel Hawkins reviewer tuning in from welcome to the program. A russia intends to meddle in next years us president ial election that was the light hearted response from Vladimir Putin in answer to a question about moscows plans. These russia. Attempting to influence the 2020 lections United States secret. Secretly yes we will indeed do that so we could chew you up for a please dont tell anybody ok well thats quite a statement coming from the russian president but you have to take it with a pinch of salt because he was obviously joking but on a more serious note he was addressing probably what might be come russia did it his area of volume 2 now after all the numerous investigations that weve seen into russias alleged meddling in the us president ial elections back in 2016 all the media hype that weve seen in the past 2 years pretty much every single quarter someone screamed that it was russia that meddled in the u. S. President ial elections russia meddling in the u. S. Election russia did meddle in the 2016 election for United States to still vulnerable to russian and political interference russias blatant interference in the United States 2016 president ial elections this is actually the crime of the century. If you think about it it is really dont rush into the future. Is driven by. No doubt about. The same no doubt. No doubt. And almost 4 years since donald trump has been elected there was a number of different investigations conducted by the american intelligence agencies the moola reported that maybe had planes and many other articles that were written to prove the existence of the hounds of the kremlin behind the american elections but moscow has always said that it never meddled and putting all joking aside lattimer put in has once again stressed that. You know we have plenty of for. Of our own we put our efforts into resolving them and aim to do that above Everything Else miller didnt prove that we colluded with President Trump in 2016 but expressed fears that it might happen in the future this is ridiculous or rather it would be if it wasnt so sad because all that we see in us internal politics is about destroying ties between our countries and im certain that holmes the us itself. People in the french city of rwanda are demanding the truth after a major fire at a nearby chemical factory they fear a cover up and dispute claims by the authorities that the air was safe to breathe. Has more. Almost a week ago the Chemical Plant just across the water that was a blaze a sick plume of black smoke bellowed into the sky as firefighters battled almost 24 hours against the flames. In the dark goodies with im not saying that the smell isnt pleasant im just telling you what the results of the tests are namely that the air is not harmful since then there has been growing anger over what some say is a lack of information over what was put into not fire and the impact that could have on peoples health. You can talk to any firemen but when you have any type of contact with the smoke its dangerous it can be lethal because of the camera mounted sight and in this case when the smoke went into the sky we didnt know what was in it we dont know exactly what is in the year and we worry a lot that in the future it might bring cancer or something else. I have 4 kids and they were impacted by the smell and my grades i thought about having test done before was with absolutely no information about what we should be looking for i could take blood samples but what are you going to tell them to look for i know they could be cancer thyroid problems but the problem is that we hear lots of rumors nothing concrete. I think there is a risk for health and i can feel it because i have a need to throw it and im continuously coffee were worried about the how to march children in the future will they have cancer or something we just dont know around rule some people are also taking that proportions some locals have also experienced nor. Vomiting whilst others have complained that the tap water its black and then there is the stench you can smell that the air is foul its a bit like rotting eggs but with a chemical tinge and despite the initial denials that there was no health risk the French Health minister has admitted that the rule is clearly pollutant. It is a factory that produces hydrocarbons even if not in large volumes it is never good for the population to come across these kinds of products i cannot say that there is no danger the city is clearly polluted several schools were closed off to the fire and though some have attempted to reopen many teachers are refusing to return to work. Colleagues from schools near lubrizol who have refused to work until they receive information about what was burnt and the risk because they are just a few 100 metres away from the site they did so to protect their health and that of the children who are under their responsibility and thats why there has been a demand that the original school 30 acknowledged their right not to have children attend school under this condition. While Health Concerns are immediate whats perhaps most telling about the danger people here are facing is the fact that food sales 100 districts around ruin have been banned any produce that may have been exposed to contamination has to be destroyed that even includes milk. Hybrid carrots and worked closely with milk produces dioxins are measured in many grams and there are a problem for us because they become highly concentrated in milk and are toxic so they render it unfit for consumption it is vital for us to know as soon as possible whether there are any dioxins in those burning materials whats going on he will tell us what to do with our produce so much on the fly ash has even reached as far as belgium and the netherlands raising concerns that the impact could be even the way to reaching the flags have also been raised for the health of the police and the firefighters who wont do you see during the fire protests like this have now formed to pressure the authorities to outline any risks they make face they demanding answers but are afraid that even if they recede. Isnt that the danger is that as a result of that place may not image for months or even years from now so much even. The world. Scientific journal that specializes in arms control has withdrawn a study that cost doubt on claims the Syrian Government was behind a chemical attack in 2017 in the town of concho the author of the report of a top mit professor told aunties abruptly video Agency Claims of accuracies in the study of. This article that my colleagues and i are publishing has come under attack in the very interesting thing about this attack is that nobody who has any Technical Expertise has provided any criticisms at all the criticisms are all from people who have no Technical Expertise and the criticisms have to do with strange arguments for example i was accused of being. Biased toward the assad regime well im not biased toward the assad regime i just think that we ought to understand what happened here the only thing that matters is is this article technically correct this is a science based journal and if theres any technical errors in it then they need to point them out because theyve actually in several conversations said they are not aware of any technical errors so the problem seems to be that there are accusations being made from the outside which have no scientific merit that it appears has caused them to take pause professor postals article pointed out inconsistencies in the official version of events but has come under intense criticism or guess the if the details. Where the sun revolves around us or us around it where the earth is flat who is god is greater or more recently whether we should question why every chemical attack in syria were to magically gets blamed on the government the Syrian Government committed chemical weapons acts against their own people it is highly likely that the regime was responsible for a star an attack on conscious assigned rita rita violations of the cease fire and the violence through be to be perpetrated by heeds armed forces on civilians now usually science is the answer it is resolved some of our biggest arguments but this question seems to have a strumpet science and Global Security respected journal based out of Princeton University decided not to publish a study that questioned the official version of events that assads government was behind the harm she hoon attack in 2017 it all went Something Like this a former pentagon employee mit professor ted postol together with respected scientists conducted a study u. S. President ial candidate gathered mentions it on her Campaign Web Site 13th september belling cat noted anti asaad website blasts the study science and global says it will publish it anyway and will judge it on narrow it soon after the journal now says its canceling the publication is why officially. These questions included concerns about the technical merits of the analysis in this article as well as the value of publishing the article given the sensitive and contested issue of the use of chemical weapons in syria yet it is take these masses very seriously this review identified a number of issues with the peer review and revision process strange isnt it that no questions about the veracity of the study were asked when it was submitted or when it was given the green light for publishing concerns only appeared when belling cat and its followers attacked the study and the people behind it weve asked the journal for comment but no clear answer yet then again as statement may have said it all sensitive and contested issue that caused your mind back to 2017 within 2 days of the alleged chemical attack america declared it knew everything there was to know on tuesday syrian dictator bashar. Launched a horrible chemical weapons attack on innocent civilians even beautiful babies recruiter murdered in this very barbaric. Attack and so trump ordered a barrel of cruise missiles to be launched that syria now any doubt about as adds to mattick guilt would make the missile strike a war crime or an International War crime which could be why the scientists behind the study of facing such intense pressure abuse even and surprisingly are the loudest voices of condemnation is coming from Elliot Higgins founder of belling cat and opponent of everything a sad is web site which he likes to call an investigative outlet that has received funding from u. S. Government run operations mr higgins is a rabid supporter of the official pentagon line he is debating the issue with dr post or well the opi float your dog doesnt agree with you well that are they lying like a baby for i think there is aid to address the technical point in my instead of citing nonsense because i showed that none of the forensic evidence fits the findings you need to show that what im saying is technically inaccurate i took your research in hex i mean i gave it was someone he said 40 years of experience as a chemistry expert im not interested in other people you claim are experts i want to know why this is not its not in place the full debate is up on dr postals Youtube Channel but his study will be appearing on science and Global Security anytime soon seems twitted criticism has won the day to day where science is told to shut up because its inconvenient its former us secretary of defense famously explained there are some things you just dont know you dont know. There are reports that there is no evidence of a direct link between baghdad and some of these terrorist organizations but there are known knowns serious things we know we know and we also know there are unknown unknown that is to say we know there are some things we do not know but there are also unknown unknown the ones we dont know we dont know excuse me but is this in the no no no. Im not several unknowns and im just what im noticing and im not going to say which it is the search you know we might hear if you ever hear the irony is sometimes those unknown noons preferable its better for america in this case for bending cats if no one knows what happened and they what. Investigative journalist rick stunning says that the withdrawal of the article has nothing to do with science and everything to do with politics. The article was authored by 7 scientists who are experts in the field theyve ruled out the fact that. That it was definitely something that could only have been caused by a bomb drop from the from the air it was respected to analyzing the hole in the ground and modeling whether it 122 millimeter. Projectile missile could have caused that and they determined that it could have caused the criticisms mostly have come from non scientific people what say is that a journal that supposed to be dedicated to scientific inquiry and that is supposed to be dedicated to disarmament and arms control is apparently being bullied or allowing itself to be bullied into political censorship and bias middle east conflict saw taking center stage at a policy forum in russia that story and more after this break. 70 years ago this week china started down the path of communist rule over the past few decades china has emerged or rather reemerged as a leading world power rivaling the us the communist party can rightly claim a string of stunning successes challenges remain whats next for chinas extraordinary revolution. What politicians do you suppose to. Put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president im sure. Someone. Thats. Going to be close its like the 3 of them all cant be good. Im interested in the why. They should. Welcome back to r. T. International russias approach to the middle east is among our Foreign Policy issues up for debate at a major forum being held in the black sea resort of sochi the countrys foreign minister Sergey Lavrov is there along with other top officials but if it has been following developments. Wednesdays gathering of Valdai Discussion Club based International Think tank is held him base absolutely stunning place in the mountains outside russias black sea resort of sochi and discussions here today are just as hard as the weather the east has been announced this year is a major topic asia and the middle east the latter is in the spotlight today high ranking politicians x. Birds influencers are discussing current challenges and respects hand ways to bring peace maintain peace has well as boost stability and developments in these regions syria was mentioned to many times russias foreign minister Sergey Lavrov has taken part in the conversation that last of the wrong 2 hours he has talked about iraq afghanistan libya as brothers set examples of global peace efforts blaming usas approach that he has described as interfering to influence stressing this should be avoided in the future. So that is that the middle east is a cradle of many civilizations and World Religions of course today when its been transformed into a laboratory for reckless experiments that have led to tragic consequences this topic is very urgent if you look at american interventions aimed at forcing relevant parties to do what washington requires washington usually considers it useful to maintain a certain degree of turbulence in the region because the us has military bases that they can only support one side if its beneficial or the other depending on where the oil flows where the gas is where to sell their weapons. Minister lavrov has said that instead of this toxic and dangerous interfering to influence strategy every International Effort should be aimed at stopping the violence and bringing peace and stability and as an example he has talked about 2 regions in syria where 2 different approaches have led to absolutely different consequences proving which one is more. Effective. In syrias aleppo we were able to return the city to normal in the shortest time possible we didnt mind it in record time as well we provided the entire population with essential and people started coming back nothing even close has happened and record with the u. S. Led operation for terrorism with carpet bombing 2 years on and not even all the corpses had been buried not to mention demining operations. Foreign minister lavrov has also expressed his concerns about american and european approach towards iran iran that love has stressed never violated any article of the joint comprehensive plan of actions adding he hates any unnecessary and unexplainable pressure on to here and will soon stop and just remind you of all the Discussion Club will continue its work on thursday weidman Putin Russias president is expected to join well cover it for you of course. Europe is working to preserve the Iran Nuclear Deal several e. U. Countries have joined the Payment System known as instead set up to bypass u. S. Sanctions on tehran in stocks was set up in january by france germany and the u. K. It allows firms to avoid using the swift Payment System which is heavily reliant on the u. S. Dollar washington withdrew from the iran deal earlier this year and imposed sanctions of former foreign minister austria told us european powers are the one to maintain their trade ties with iran. The whole instrument was developed in order to create a sort of bartering trade between a European UnionMember States and iran in order to make it work which means open the market for european businesses we will face for a short term perspective still some sort of limbo stalemate lots of uncertainties lots of trying limits how far to move. When it comes to the European Union we have 3 major actors east which also involved indeed making off to. United kingdom france and germany ive been observing in particular the efforts of france in order to make something happen in order to move out of that stalemate in such the European Union is of course also to its not so much creation as we will like to have we have countries which share a much more rigid point of the United States and we have countries which are much more open to more diplomatic efforts. And deep political crisis is continuing to play out in peru with demonstrations held on an almost daily basis both for and against the president thats the head of state and the parliament are heads with one of. The. Tensions have surged after president martin dissolved congress for failing to support his anticorruption reforms the parliament which consists mainly of opposition parties then voted to remove the president from office pointing the Vice President as the new leader. And meanwhile despite taking sides in other similar disputes elsewhere in south america this time the u. S. Appears to be staying somewhat neutral washington supports peruse Democratic Institutions and continues to work as its partner in democracy. People are protesting. U. S. Policy in peru who can see the risks that he get into the usa a very very key area south american so the involvement of the comparison is absolutely. Possible d in the sense that what they have done we why dont all theyre doing it with this car and are in both areas are eagerly independent one with a rich man i mean in venezuela biggest the upper crust of the continent of south america you know they say they would never do scans with. Weed with the rule we would never get out you know fully independent photon i mean peru i mean but thats the garment which was a kind of socialist leaning document in the seventys you know it was immediately combative and struggled by the state department to come up to 3 30 am here in moscow you whats not International States you know whats in the hawks were back at the top of the hour with the latest. On the surface this is not reported because its too hard trying to speak that the fact they credit markets to reach such a stated just disrepair. Thats. Causing a run on the dollar. In 24 to you know bloody revolution here to correct the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it still or here i mean you are liz put me in the. School needle the former ukrainian president recalls the events of 2014. Those who took part in this did over 5000000000 dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. Lawmakers manufactured sentenced to public wealth. When the ruling classes protect themselves. When the final merry go round lifts only the one percent. We can all middle of the room signals. Any real news. Readings and sell you taishan. Responsibility yes Network Responsibility seems like a lost cause these days hark watchers the act of taking responsibility for one. Actions seem to be just as mystifying to the modern political world as trigonometry is to a 5 year old take the United States military as Africa Operations for example back in march of this year it was reported that a u. S. Airstrike run by africans in somalia targeted and killed 3 al shabab terrorists while they were rioting in the toyota surf s. U. V. In somalias Lower Shabelle region evil terrorists warded good guys win truck blown up. And the story well. Not so much it appears that Amnesty International felt there was more to this story than what africa was letting us lead bit a little digging and discovered that all evidence appears to reveal that the 3 men were nothing more than civilian farmers not terrorists but the story didnt end there at the time of the airstrike afrikan issued a press release stating we are aware of reports alleging civilian casualties were resulting from this airstrike as with any allegation of civilian casualties we received u. S. Africa command a command will review any information it has about the incident including any relevant information provided by 3rd parties. However good friends of Amnesty International disagree with this statement observing that in may a journalist writing for Foreign Policy provided africa with evidence that Abraham Mohammad heerey one of the men in the car was a civilian and passed on Contact Information for his relatives but to date africa has not reached out to any of them. I guess asking africa to take responsibility for its mistakes and learning from them is just too much to ask everybody its not like there are a lives at stake or anything like that. Oh yeah there is now lets start watching the hawks. Youll. Realize that its one. Of