Evening to you thanks for joining us this is art. Donald trumps demanding to meet with the anonymous official who blew the whistle on phone calls with his ukrainian counterpart the scandal surrounding the conversations led to the launch of an impeachment inquiry last week over possible collusion with a foreign power the us president claims that the whistleblowers account of what was said was quote totally inaccurate in all reports of the most pointing out the Us Intelligence community quietly changed the official whistleblower complaint form around the time the ukraine called scandal broke the version that required a whistleblower to have 1st hand intelligence but the new form made another tick box option available meaning relayed information would be considered also. Now the timing of the change it is indeed noteworthy because the latest version of the document says it was revised the all good to stop and to be the same month in which the scandal triggering complaint was filed and the apparent coincidences led to questions being raised its not clear to me when the people who are behind all this realized all my goodness this is not going to play well this will not go through the Inspector General process because its all hearsay its certain here information its funny to me at least here on the u. S. Side that the news outlets just immediately identified this person as a whistleblower but if you are a whistleblower blowing the whistle on waste fraud abuse and illegality in the Intelligence Services youre not a whistleblower youre a leaker and so i think thats really where the transformation is. At least my guest you have looks of the sudden change of standards and the possible ramifications. Most of us we revere whistleblowers the men and women who put their careers their very lives on the line at a principle you know look the other way they speak up when they see corruption abuse and then justice and you know why we revere them so as we trust them they were witnesses people on the inside they saw with their own eyes a whistleblower any individual who provides the right information to the right people thats now changed you no longer need to be a witness to be a whistleblower along the need to have documents or evidence all you need is to have her like the individual who spoke on the trump ukraine scandal of the background of this of course is the whistleblower the filing report and state in the 1st sentence i dont know this firsthand you know this list told to me by i learned this from say and then multiple shots so we didnt have any and evidence let me in our legal system here shit it never stands up in court he was told the trump said something questionable by anonymous officials told them wrong it seems at least some of it was already proved false the president pressured mrs lenski with a specific request that the ukrainian leader locate and turn over service used by the Democratic National committee and examined by the u. S. Cyber Security Firm crowd strike. I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and ukraine knows a lot about it i would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with ukraine they say crowd strike the server they say ukraine has it whatever you can do its very important that you do it if thats possible the president also praised ukraines prosecutor general. And suggested the. Misters lansky might want to keep him in his position. I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and thats really unfair a lot of people are talking about that the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved they these in gentleman we have front row seats as we watch the noble even all noble title of whistleblower sally my deed by partisan politics in the accuracy bias over the Intelligence CommunityInspector Generals preliminary review identified some indicia of an arguable political bias on the part of the complete in favor of a rival political candidate such evidence did not change my determination that the complaint relating to the urgent concern appears credible what do they do. You know americans are good we say did it change the goalposts they changed the rules how could these people possibly see that we get away with this whistleblowers now essentially a 5050 anonymous source you get on c. N. N. For example fun to listen to but as practice shows as taken with a dose of salt source tells n. B. C. News Law Enforcement and democratic sources telling c. N. N. On it in a fired sources Anonymous Sources according to anonymous Washington Post source youre basing all these allegations of one or maybe 2 sources which c. N. N. Is this is not receiving reports its Washington PostNew York Times wall street journal c. N. N. A. B. C. Elihu resources all because theyre hiding behind this in anonymity commonality were seeing how do you tell me that youre not going to attack sources these whistleblower a poor it was but now for the democrats finally a chance to bring down trump. But now that its showing cracks liberals are sprinting the plus the mover this whistleblower they claim can should and will be trusted you know why because hes one of them. If we think of the whistleblower as a reporter the whistleblower talked to a lot of people who had firsthand knowledge or seen them post strange it to this reporters a free free to be as politically biased as they want twist news to their political agenda and then call it truth all of us who have been involved in National Security and have reported on on waste fraud abuse and illegality have been whistleblowers but because this whistleblower in particular fits the mainstream medias narrative of donald trump committing crimes he was automatically called the whistleblower he was automatically assumed to have the National Interest at heart and im not not really sure that thats the case the think it all but crucified Snowden Manning for exposing global surveillance on all of us and war crimes that wed never have known about but here you have a biased complaint riddled with an accuracy as submitted by an individual who saw nothing but passed on what he was told the clear political spin to it. And these applauded cheered and. These injured woman what is the newborn the mob with all blow up guys i think this is effectively making the whistle procedure in america into effectively a sneak snitches charter where we have a situation where someone can just report some gossip and it will be taken at face value as bona fide a whistle blowing i think this is highly dangerous in how whistleblowers are going to be perceived so rather than people coming forward and saying i have an eyewitness account i personally experience this wrongdoing this crime it needs to be investigated up to and including congressional hearings on both sudden were going to have rumor and gossip gossip fed into the political process and its going to poison that political process. Dozens of World Leaders of arrived in paris for the funeral of Jacques Chirac the french president who died last week served as the countrys head of state to 12 years our correspondent charlotte dubin ski reports from paris. Well a national day of mourning has been declared in france here to remember all the the former president Jacques Chirac who died last week at the age of 86 the Funeral Service took place behind me at the church of seoul suit piece well World Leaders including president putin of russia came to pay their final respects to a man whose political career spanned some 40 years going from being elected as an m. P. In the National Assembly all the way to being mare of paris to being Prime Minister 2nd time twice 2 of course being frances president a presidency he held for 2 terms darting back in 1995 he was considered to be a political comedian so he has stuck to his guns and perhaps is best known internationally for the fact back in 2003 he refused to let part of france participate in the iraq invasion that was led by the. U. S. In the u. K. Famously of course going to the u. N. Security council all queuing why that invasion shouldnt take place lets have a look back now at some of the highlights of his political career. The military operations have just started in iraq friends regresses action taken without the approval of the united nations. Houses burning down and we blind to it. Mutilated and overexploited can no longer regenerate and we refuse to admit it or dont want to rebuild it barack obama why not go back to god. Let them grow these dark hours for the sollie our history and theyre an insult to our past and now traditions. The funeral took place with a full military onus on some of those who paid their tributes last week when we heard the news egyptian rocket died came here today including president putin of russia he described him as being a man who was wise and far sighted a man who is a great friend to russia we know that the 2 had a fantastic personal relationship in fact shut chirac when he was at the nato summit in latvia back in 2006 on the sidelines of that summit invited president putin to come and spend his 70 full birthday with him and even he would it president putin one of frances highest honors for foreigners this is the growing classically. So a sense of 2 men who really respect each other in fact president putin once said that she was probably one of the best leaders that he knew of one of the ones that he most respected we also heard tributes from other World Leaders over the last few days accusing angle of merkel he said that he was a great partner when it came to germany and also herself and we heard from president marc cohn who said he was a great frenchman a man who embodied what it really was to be french we were also speaking to some of the crowd. So people can came to see this funeral to pay their final respects and they told us that Jacques Chirac was a great leader and that it was important to come and say one final goodbye. They felt he was a true frenchman and there you go what i allowed about human after doing it all the girls it was structured hour for me for friends. And gave me a place he was one of the best president s thats what i think he did many things for france including many things that people dont know about in the social sphere and things like that so our systems are both that was his character that was his character but all the same not everyone liked him so many in my family were fond of him its nice to know that. He was we heard during the service a man or head of his time a man who was fiercely proud to be french thousands of people have paid homage and respect as Jacques Chirac now makes his final journey to his resting place in more plain us here in paris. The university of edinburgh has found itself in the foreign light enough to rolling out this red carpet for a socalled until racism conference that bombed white people from asking questions during a culinary. Will therefore no begin the microphone to by people during the cuban ace no because we dont think white people have anything to offer to the discussion but because we want to amplify the voices of people of color if you know wide person with a question please share it with a member of the committee or our speakers after the panel discussion. Event itself was organized by a group called the resisting whiteness collective the organizers say that there are a mystery raise awareness about the importance of anti racist actions in the u. K. The host of the event created 2 separate rooms called safe spaces for those who could feel overwhelmed or uncomfortable but with one of them barring white people from entering at her university expressed concern over certain aspects before the event including the safe rooms with the universitys officials claiming organizers had started to review that particular point but no changes if any were made were ever published on the official event page all of that provoked a strong online reaction this sort of stupidity by Edinburgh University actually fuels racism if the years who came up with this idea lived in the real world theyd know inclusive ety not up a tide is whats needed and very University Hosts racist event banning polish people from talking the aim of the event is to end racism presumably by actively being racist they have come full circle in an effort to become normal racists theyve become racist talk about overcompensating. Briggss Alliance LondonAssembly Member david curtain belief that this event hasnt been anyone any favors. Its blatant racism theres no such thing as reverse racism racism is excluding people because of the color of their skin and this does that whereas before weve had the kind of racism that excludes people and discriminates against people because theyre black this blatantly discriminates against people because theyre white and this doesnt do any good for anybody whether theyre white or black or brown and this kind of thing just simply should not be happening im for giving a platform for for any group you know whatever anyone wants to say but thats the whole problem with this event is that theyre not allowing a platform for people who are white on the basis of their color of their skin if someone decided to put on an event called resisting blackness can you imagine the outrage which we would have had from the same kind of people who are putting on this events are there everyone would be up in arms from people on the extremes of the political spectrum and all of the liberal if you like elites in the media would be be writing about it condemning it and we wouldnt hear the end of it for days if not weeks so that just goes to show the kind of hypocrisy. New yorkers could now face a quarter of a 1000000. 00 fine for using the term illegal alien or threatening to report a person to the immigration authorities in a bid to humiliate or harass them thats according to a new document released by the citys commission on human rights threatening to call ice when motivated by discrimination derogatory use of the term illegal alley in and discrimination based on limited English Proficiency of a lawful discriminatory treatment under the new york city human rights. Oakwood ing to this new guidance its also a lot violation to tell someone that they should speak english or go back to their own country a fine will be issued for any acts of willful discrimination no matter water or persons legal status. As bring some guest now to discuss this point on the line now by john William Louden whos a political consultant former republican member of the Missouri Senate also author and reece of acim welcome to you both guys research can start with you what do you think of this new rule is this infringing upon free speech or not. Well you know heres the thing its one of the strongest laws in the country in order to protect people who are being attacked by the hate speech that just in an upsurge and here in the country and its stronger than any other say its of the laws are stronger than any other state put on by the new york Human Rights Agency however with whats going on i think that you know the people in new york may have it right we need to start using the laws to make it too expensive to be racist too expensive to do the fear mongering and the hate mongering that were seeing become so commonplace and people become so comfortable spewing in our country its just not what america was founded upon and its not something with that we should be allowing. John respond to that. The hate that some people spew and according to research a crimes rose in 30 cities across the United States last year it looks like the trends continuing do you have some sympathy for migrants who say theyre living in fear. Where if youre a if youre offended by being called an illegal alien then dont be an illegal alien. Im not especially sympathetic with that what im stunned by is to hear somebody whos an attorney defend the idea of criminalizing speech that is so unamerican and by the way this is a 2 edged sword because a recent Artificial Intelligence analysis came out and there is more hate speech on social media far more prevalent among minorities and among whites so this is liable to by minorities way worse than maybe that the left wing new york politicians are passing it or hoping to somehow create boogeyman out of white people that are check to illegal aliens running around new york city recently if im understanding this rises right so if someone is an illegal alien if i may say that at this moment in time a 1000000 new york that you can actually say that to them. Bude have to presumably call the police to notify them or to get in touch with ice but you cant confront them directly. So heres what the law actually does the law that new york created is for people like the young man who the video went viral on you tube and i and they identified him as Aaron Schlossberg where he walked into a restaurant began yelling at people because they were speaking spanish intimidating people verbal we assaulting people and telling them that they need to go back to their country and that the least they could do is speak english these verbal assaults are a form of domestic terrorism because their hate based their discriminatory against people based on National Origin or their citizenship whether real or perceived and so what people like aaron foster the the person identified as parents often for have done as they go around harassing and threatening people and its been caught several times on camera several people using the the fear of being called or ice having had an ice called on them as an intimidation tactic for people and thats not american the issue is is that these people who want to be in america whether you know their documentation status or not doesnt give you the right simply because they speak another language to threaten antagonize and terrorize them thats whats not american. What do you think about this lou we got you back john and we will see that temporarily give you a chance to respond if you wish. Yeah. Yeah this is stunning you verbal yelling of people is domestic terrorism when you start redefining terms like that and then you can say will terrorism is on the rise because people are are verbal e b and jerks we used to say sticks and stones may break my phones but words cant hurt me words cant hurt you somebody can yell whatever they want and if theyre creating a nuisance in a restaurant in somebodies privately owned restaurant you throw them out in you know go after him for nuisance love violations you dont lock people up for their. Just. Ok were having some trouble i think we just lost the signal. But do you see how some people say that this is a little bit huge of course that you know you cant you see hearings in front of your eyes. Heres the thing right when you dont allow or when you do allow that hate mongering in that hate speech in that type of rhetoric it read it to rhetoric to bester and so boil over into a brew in this country you get people like the young man who walked into a church and shot it up you get people like the different violent assaults that are taking place across the country dole meth to go thought by young white men who are angry and they are fueled by these dog whistles that are coming from even as far as the you know top of the country and they are telling people that these people that are coming into their country are using their resources and filling out their tax dollars and that they need to go back home these are the beginning steps of any type of hate that you see you see in any other country that causes things like ethnic cleansing and genocide it starts with telling people they dont have a right to be here and then calling them things like illegal alien you know why because its a lot easier to put the baby of an illegal alien in a cage than it is a baby of an undocumented immigrant those terminologies even the. The word choice to self allows you to dehumanizing these people so much that theyre not even deserving of basic human rights and they can you can treat them however you need to because theyre not even human why because theyre quote unquote aliens as if they arent even a human being do you see what im saying that thats what were doing here john the u. S. Is founded on immigrants you know it says that its one of these in so early you know. Theyre all of what youve got sanctuary cities the dont mind where the people who document isnt where the legal or not why i want to challenge what seems to be the organic nature of the country but the trying to get rid of the hate. The big lie here is that somehow that the United States is not in fact the most pluralistic most tolerant and diverse country in the world and no country comes close to being as tolerant as United States is and and diverse so this notion that somehow new york has to protect us from from protect illegal aliens from ugly words its funny we throughout our history weve managed just fine without the speech codes and somehow new yorks bring in a man its just its absurd and by the way totally agree with the other persons point about dehumanizing people lets not to humanize them lets not call a baby unborn fetus and lets not lets not call anybody that disagrees with you a white supremacist you know that in the human eyes from that way thats what shes doing and i think Everybody Needs to just settle down and let us lets lets punish conduct not words its Pretty Simple really some of the new york authorities want to be encouraging ilLegal Immigration here not like Legal Immigration theyre opening up the floodgates and saying well take anyone. Heres the problem new york is the sanctuary city as its always been a place where people from all across the world have been able to come because why the statue of liberty says give me your poor give me your tired and so this is what new york has always been for people who are immigrating for the purpose of religious freedom for education but heres the other issue when you have. Ministration a president ial administration that changes the narrative when we have the Bush Administration talk about immigration they said we are a nation. Immigrants and a nation of laws when you have the Obama Administration he said that our issue if felons not family and criminals not children when you speak when you. Learn administration the cages when you hear the Current Administration he is calling everything and theyre all criminals theyre all criminals theyre all illegal aliens and even senator ted cruz has mandated never said it was at own to address them instead of undocumented immigrants being now illegal alien so theres a complete change in ideology to completely dehumanised this group of people these groups of people that are coming into this country so yes it has to be addressed but why is it that they are you know almost dehumanized so that you know any type of behavior that or anything that you do to them putting them in a cage with out or and leaving them without food not providing them with showers all of that you know becomes acceptable because they shouldnt be here and theyre alien and so we have to look at the ideology yes we do need to have immigration laws ok fine but how do we do that without completely dehumanizing people. So it sounds like its all about the language tone can you see that point. Theyre twisting language in an orwellian fashion if some green men get out on your planet theyre aliens they are not undocumented space travelers alien is not a pejorative its what you are in and this site has decided to turn alien who is here illegally turn it into some kind of project or an event its not if you dont like people being called the illegal aliens and send them back or help them home and nobodys proposing we ought to put them in cages except obama he brought in that policy and that was an overwhelmed Border Patrol that didnt have a wall. And the support they didnt have enough room so they had they had chain link fences to put together quick cages it wasnt wrong when when the Obama Administration did it in it and i suppose its ugly it looks ugly from the outside but when you have people overwhelming a system you have to take short term measures and so nobody wants kids in cages but the parents should should not be bringing those children and in so were way beyond the point of by of punishing speech and i just want to say again you dont punish speech and by the way the president never said all illegal aliens are criminals that youre putting words in his mouth and just making fake news and you need to not do that its not productive ok he said say were going to wrap it there just because of tom appreciate you are going to be both of you john William Lauder the only mel you have going to very quickly please race. What do you call someone who was on in north america that entered and stole the land from the Indigenous People i hear r. P. N. Ok ok well they didnt own the land they wandered around but nice try right were going to wrap it up there john William Louden whose political consultant and author and attorney Reese Everson many thanks guys. And were just going to squeeze in a little bit more news for you in somalia a u. S. Military base is being attacked by the local Islamic Extremist Group alshabaab it claims loyalty to al qaeda and is listed as a terror group in the u. S. And u. K. And European Military convoys also been attacks so far no ones claimed responsibility somalia wracked by civil war for decades now with 2 significant parts of the country proclaiming self autonomy the u. S. Armed forces have been fighting al shabaab since 2007. Africa meanwhile says it killed 10 militants following the recent attack on the u. S. Base journalist an african 1st specialist johnson believes their strikes will only make the crisis worse one thing is clear is that its clearly not a force d thats going the way they are. Jihadists the