The us of course but when you for example compare how how would a color military conflict look here between saudi arabia and iran often people fail to take into account a very simple or cheap drone can be used to attack a military installation and this. Energy solution and and this is really the vulnerable the weak spots that they have. That they have presented to them so theres not much they can really do about it so they could make peace with the with the hoop these in yemen one think they could do to show us that iran with the various simple weaponry can create some pain for the who is easier to be care dont know well i would guess that the drones themselves the construction of them probably some of the Strategic Directions probably have come. With some input from iran. I think its reason to lose even if it is reasonable until they get over it l its it seems to me its not important who orchestrated this because i dont think thats the point i think the point is that it could be orchestrated and its a demonstration of what can come all right you have saudi arabia spinning bast amounts of money on quote unquote defense that apparently doesnt work or they dont know how it works in the United States is any more forces there theyre learning the wrong lesson whoever orchestrated this says stop the war because we can do this again and it will be more intense higher magnitude right sort of trump is going to sanction our central bank in iran hes going to saying in the Sovereign Wealth Fund as well hes sending. Troops to saudi arabia in order to prevent this from happening again and you know do you want to sending a few ships right more troops i was not going to stop this when we were even told there are some people saying that the attack its no or region aided and in saudi arabia exactly exactly i think youre spot on peter because it doesnt really even though is a lot of people theorizing who did this was it iran was it who these was it israel was it saudi arabia was it the cia everyones you know has their theory as to who did this because you know a lot of people saying this was a false flag and thats what worries me its not who did this what worries me is that ok youre sending a message to stop the war great the war needs to be stopped youre sending a message that Saudi Arabian n. B. S. Is vulnerable hes the weak link in the in the u. S. Iran is real kind of structure in that hes only has to be i mean that portrait has been shown running steroids right and right before the iraq oh floatation as well so youre sending a message there and youre sending you know a message to trump in other words youre saying you dont really want to go to war here in the middle east and i get that as well but what worries me peter is that we had before this we had the all tanker incident a couple of them now we have this and you can only push trump so far because i really think trump does not want to go to war i think its very clear now but hes surrounded by a lot of neo cons hes surrounded by a lot of war hawks left and right and maximum pressure has failed i worry about real quick i worry about that because sooner or later one more incident whoever does it whoever does it hes going to have to take action and that worries me going to the brink real quick go ahead real quick and i was just going to say i also believe that trump definitely wants to go into the new election as the president who didnt actually start a war which will be the 1st time and im going to go toward. The bar exam and im going to problem is this maximum pressure stretches put all the conditions in place for war because what is done with iran now hes put in the situation where there is all or nothing so wrong house and everything to lose from just sitting still and doing. Thing and sort of see its a coming choke to death or it can make a big gamble and effectively shoulder saw this american concept help you become supportive and also telling the rest of the world if you try to crush us we have ways to get back at you so having this powerful deterrent its there they can gain a lot from doing this high risk and thats a problem to put in a position where iran kind of has to gauge and high risk in order to save itself well you know they could always buy a russian isp or hundreds but you know. My question to you is is that if. We can speculate who might have helped who i dont think we were speaking the obvious you however i think with another message going with my line of thinking is that other. Into the region could have access to the same technology so im talking about as below in lebanon this is sending a message not only to the saudis that theyre vulnerable not a message to the u. S. That hes vulnerable but the entire stability of the middle east is at stake right now and i think this is the message they need to start ratcheting down you could very easily be ratcheted up again well i think theyre basically when we have person to blame you know we should remember who started the whole thing you know the whole start things started in 2015 when star saudi arabia started in yemen after a. Coup there you know with total support from the United States from president obama from one of their somewhere im going to do so because i want to because of her memoir she white watches her cell phone now now were kind of the International Press basically be mourning their fate of the civilian population of yemen which is a right you know but the International Press does not remind us that our barbara and the ultra liberal are you always just in the United States and in that you were directly complicit in starting that war part of the blame is on them and even if. He is or someone some. Are the shia groups in the middle east even if it was they walk. Alone right to say that its a deterrent you know its amazing for the 1st time in their European Press i see some sympathy for these action against saudi arabia for example often blithered often bothered which is a swedish newspaper writes that easy is it all the media who is happy about what happened maybe it will send a message that we need to protect the environment and theyre basically if you can cause a lot of it in a matter of minutes you know then maybe we should look for a replacement for oh ok its a very twisted very swedish you know ecological argument against the war i think that was should stop primarily in order to prevent people from being killed and the environment but its for the 1st time in many years that europe is kind of opposed to all these aggressions its obviously a boss to the aggression of saudi arabia against yemen and it is becoming more and more sympathetic with the shiite minority in terms of what it does as it is increasing the chasm between europe and the United States because the europeans have made it very clear that theyre not willing the goal will be if their knowledge to push in blackmail they will continue to support the u. S. But its showing their cows im glad about the europeans also recognize that this is directly linked to the Iran Nuclear Deal so. And because the american soon latrobe withdrew from it even though the americans are threatening to put sanctions on the europeans a 2nd there are sanctions if they continue but they dont also withdraw from the deal so so so obviously this is a big split with this conflict becoming more more moving towards war iran needs to show that it it also has a deterrent then i dont see the europeans thinking this is a great time to suddenly switch sides and get bored with american already continues a trend i would say yeah yes you know. What i think is very interesting is that the saudis are being the anti in there saying the ball is in your court right now and then we all know that trump doesnt want to get into a new war but hes painted himself into a very terrible horner and thats what makes the stakes so much higher because you could have a 3rd party that is interested in a conflict in the could we could see a potential false flag this is very very dangerous and putting the mess the wrong message has been received sending more hardware there more troops there more ships that shows that they havent learned that this is a game of chicken that has reached its been the ultimate stage just not believe had an article she said that you know the United States and trump is losing the narrative on iran and i think shes exactly right and i think dimitris right too in that aspect that trump did inherit the yemen war but he made a terrible strategic mistake by pulling out of that j. C. P. O. Way and then he painted himself in that corner that youre talking about but the narrative is being lost because because people now are actually seeing saudi arabia as the aggressor whether its yemen or whether its with whats going on in iran and were talking about before the show peter we actually are told see cowbird go on fox news the other day neil cavuto and she actually stated and im paraphrasing that saudi arabia is the bigger enemy not iran dont go to war with iraq you see how he choked oh yeah she buried him because thats the name of the pushing demon before we go to break very quickly you know the war in yemen i think it was the 1st war that obama wanted to conduct with old the boots on the ground by someone elses hands you know that was his new strategy im not saying american troops and that the soldiers do it and it was a complete disaster i think you know the french. That if this operation is called resolute force its resident force against yemen yes it killed tens of thousands displaced medians it was supposed to be a single ended little war once the results but it was supposed to be a splendid lou. Ok m. B. A. s would come out on top showing his credentials and all that everything this man touches in the region goes south and so last word was some say this very difficult situation for both sides because. Iran has been put in the place now where it really has no out its been very pressured put in a corner but the americans are kind of put himself in a corner as well and thats i think thats where the danger comes because. To point out that some point now trump will have to attack iran otherwise he will be out of options and the iran thats the same problem they dont have any other options than to see this is why we have you on the program frequently real fears here were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on some deal news state with. This is a story about what happens auster a stray bullet kills a young girl in the street. What happens to her family and daughters in florida oh my other daughter is buried in a cemetery in dealing with your head what happens to the community the public was screaming for a scapegoat the Police Needed a scapegoat so why not choose a 19 year old black kid with a criminal record who better to pen this than him and what happens in court he be. Shocked shocked as far. As i feel. We dont know joel just for the. End of this unfortunately you. Will still not know shell just. Join me every thursday on the alex simon show and ill be speaking to you. Well the world of politics sports business im show business ill see you that. I put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president and should. Somehow want to be. Actually going to be for us this is what the 43 of the more than people that im interested always in the waters about how. There should be a. Little buzz you live but if she warned you post the budget and i do the dishes at the bottom or those jeans near the speech and you see me we can see you blew true she. Doesnt know about that when you guys e. Q. s will be home in the news i mean that so that infants involved. A lot of you will see sawing as it bites about 2 kids out to both sides. But as a meeting with the fire chief. Here in chief if you will dot ca what ive been told theyve doing this is. People who simply new to my neighborhood in little. Welcome back across the uk were all Things Considered im Peter Lavelle to remind you were discussing some real news. I just limit switch gears here. Biden in ukraine. Finally finally people are talking about it but the wrong story ok gives the back 3 years 3 years in the making this story for 4 or 5 years actually during the my done and during the war nice ukraine this story has been around and Biden Hunter Biden to be more specific along with devon archer who is quick coincidentally the roommate of john kerrys son in law Christopher Heinz fame building right of the heinz dynasty those 2 along with another ukrainian oligarch were part of a company with directors of a Company Called barista this company is an energy all the gas Company Operating in ukraine headquartered out of cyprus for various tax reasons not during the war there were a lot of reports that hunter biden and actually were pushing for the war and ukraine in order to clear a lot of the territory in order to do what peter in order to frack rock get to the energy in the east and now here we are 3 years later with a whistle blower out of the intelligence apparatus for some strange reason tries to pin all of this. Trop so because so bidens corruption is trump right exactly drums desire to investigate it is who investigated because but it had the church during a conference we also took about how we got victor show one of the prosecutors to believe we can prosecute a degenerate prosecutor general of your fire because he wanted to investigate the corruption of hunter biter and devon ouch archer and one more thing peter the kerry family Christopher Hines all want the bidens and hunter biden a barista about 2 to 3 weeks ago so. We have ukraine gate holds around the globe because the media is dominated by the people who are interested in concealing bidens corruption and theyre already turning of the tables saying forget about by this corrupt ok. In i think it was in their Foreign Policy or in some other rule that yes contra biden acted inappropriately and joe biden acted inappropriately they should have known that if you protect you know your son who is doing business in the country that you supervised from the United States its going to come back to you well of course but you know that privately is the trump is calling. Ukrainian president zelinsky and asks him to investigate it and you know this is the 1st time that ive heard truth from mr trump since his Electoral Campaign in 2016 just very simply explained what has been telling us about joe biden this is trumpeted in the media he calls the Ukrainian Government and says dont you dare prosecute if you dont fire this prosecutor. If you dont fire this prosecutor were not going to give you 2000000000. 00 in loan guarantees or whatever he was supposed to give can you imagine i did that and of calderon mr trump but the problem is that this is the truth from 8 to z. This is how it would work but the interesting thing here claim is that. For some reason when we can speculate why this is really come up in the news you know obviously its an entire gambit theres nothing new about that but as our gentleman friends here pointed out this is part of the Public Record in that whats being talked about publicly is if its news its not news its not news that they were officials from the d. N. C. Visited ukraine during the 2016 election looking for dirt on paul metaphor and they loaned it and they found it and they used it against him and he went to jail for what 4 years for something years for something that had nothing to do with russia only with ukraine but only with ukraine i mean the interesting thing is that this is a very selective view of looking backwards and what is happening we still dont talk about the coup in 2014 they dont want to talk about bidens role that he was obamas point man here and how his family benefited from it profiting from it here and now its. Well theyre going to have wrote a lot about this case in the book come out in 2016 so no its not its not its hard to look at is that i would say for the public is yes it is but theres also because. There hasnt been much interest in the media to kind of dig into this issue and especially after trying to get elected as well theyre very much been in the u. S. Obviously taken a very anti trump and so i think the rhythm only reason why this really came out because it could be argued that this was transcription by trump because you know he dared to call the president of ukraine selinski. Pressure him in order to start an investigation however and this is the scandal however again the reason this will backfire most likely is because by bringing up this issue they have actively will reveal that the trump is merely asking to restart and in this the geisha which joe biden killed into his son there. And you know evidence that were aware of thats been reported there was a quid pro quo so thats thats the thing here again western media there is they do the sins of omission you know it was i want you said to me earlier in the day is this is this a tactic to get rid of by you know we were discussing this because this is it was so obvious this was going to backfire on biden it was obvious and the democrats less they wanted this out now i can only think of 2 reasons why you have this leak and you know the whistleblower didnt even have this as direct knowledge from what we understand this came from another person to another person to that whistleblower and now the only reason to put this out into the Public Domain is to either do biden because its obvious this is going to come back and get him. Why else would you do it to derail biden or to get ahead of the story now i dont think you could control it so how do you know that when you have a question and he quoted trump but he was quoting the video you know what it was raised from access was this being done to buy in and get to a war in. Candidacy i mean the real scandal you dont even you whistle boards foreseen the read of scandal here what is the most sure can about this prosecutor sure can and will prosecute over ukraine is that by then had the power to remove him in a matter of hours and by then boasted about it he has been there certain amount at rome for that one for several years he has been called boasting about it you know no one said who should be the Prime Minister of this new liberal. Nor clique right so the United States has been dictating the Ukrainian Government for all these years who they should have like there is. Absolutely and who should that them point us prosecutor generals they have been dictating and now what does this Ukrainian Government to look like these socalled free guys who liberated some sort of russia during their 2016 campaign they were all on the side of he were clinton they gave her the materials which these stall from the party of regions about mana for its payment then in 2016 when trump won the interior minister of arc of quickly cleared out from his facebook account all of the attacks against. Clinton then the. New general prosecutor decided od trump has won so now i can go a gauge this clintonite gates guy so he gave an interview to the heel about them eric an ambassador in ukraine meri jaan of age who told him whom he as the prosecutor general could not touch you know that the list of the untouchables and that was published in the here and now would send condor stance that he was stupid trump is not true in the country of the ultra liberals are running the show there so we suddenly hear from now how do biden did not violate in ukrainian was at least optional we dont see any wrong doing a company can. Well you know much of the most goods bought you know how to buy that was on the board that will really close call with you made less money to buy and has a long experience in the energy field correct apparently. This is no background. Thats no no no no no were sorry were very close with you keisha you left the navy and youre just sort of cocaine you know this is the man he was making 50000 i think this is a this is a good thing about Ukrainian Government you dont need any credentials or could have put if you did not. And he became the prosecutor general right. You know basically the chairman of the rub that. He has been a professional nazi all his life he followed the National Socialist party of ukraine in 1900 he never did anything i think was called socialist nationalist he just flipped the words all the nationalists social but everyone understood what it meant in 1901 right so he became the chairman of the road that without any qualification and then the other states was perfectly fine with because they were going there what does this mean to me because we went through this 3 years of russian gate russian meddling in the election but it looks and i have been talking about this for years theres ample evidence that was ukrainian. Meddling in the u. S. President ial election cycle here. It seems to me both sides now are kind of in a quandary because they both have their own narrative. Myself going to be well this case broke if the us is. Going to have a day job because if remember the 2016 election. The big play by the democrats was you know that they got exposed clinton had worked with the d. N. C. To rig the primary but then they were able to switch narrative by saying oh no actually trump the reason why we know this because all this came to trump and now it seems like were going down this road again this time its like yes yes by the. You know after the coup in ukraine you know biden got disposition and all this money even though theres no no skills in this area. And by all means it seemed like a this was a very much a way of. For a company to have to throw some money at the american oligarchy to stay protected but but nonetheless this is not the this is not a this is not the case neither that joe biden was trying to successfully got the chief prosecutor fired for pursuing this the real case is now that trump wants to reopen the investigation but it is it is shocking that it seems like if he is the frontrunner really for the n. C. A. A. It looks like it will be a promotion a replay of 2000 is that its going to trump kin can say whatever he wants to World Leaders he has that type of latitude he had many conversations with the lecky and so even the quid pro quo part where they were arguing that he offered up military aid to ukraine thats been debunked thats been debunked now say whatever he wants to lets keep the fact of the matter is that we have bite in video by didnt want to admit. That he caught show can fire he wanted to think another important issues we wrap it up right now is it again his White House Leaks very badly you have a person that knows a person that knows a person is a whistleblower this looks like him in intention to harm his presidency but i think its backfiring its a boomerang its going to boomerang on a lot of people its going to rationalize all the time we have here many thanks my guess here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here darkie see you next time and remember. Playing. 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