Base i think not i think that sanders more radical approach to governing and to his candidacy will appeal to Younger Voters and digital voters and social media voters in a way that perhaps a poll gauging warren and biden might miss were not going to know these voters because they were busy in College Classes when those poll of polls were coming in so i dont see it eating into sanders base as much as sanders is an outlier thats out there that may just come in and blow the whole thing up im interested in both your thoughts on defining some of these terms a little bit because theyre super complex and i dont mind taking a moment to unpack it a little bit specifically with regards to when we talk about whether or not its wise for someone from the Democratic Party for example to run a centrist or even to that matter whether whether trump to great degree during his candidacy period was also appealing to a kind of a centrist voter and what that means because i think that progressives would probably argue that the socalled left today is really maybe socially liberal but but fiscally more conservative and more in line with supporting kind of corporate interests to an extent so i wonder if you agree with that and how you would define kind of what is a centrist today in america and in the go ahead and start. Well i can see the progressives making the argument that centrist democrats quote unquote liberals you know are lapdogs of Corporate America wall street weve heard that a lot from Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Elizabeth warren but just looking you know on the past debates when you see the candidates raising their hand that they want basically the equivalent of open borders decriminalizing illegal entry into the United States thats a fairly radical position that polling just came out this last week shows most americans dont agree with you see income all haris been shes done this flip flopping she wants to appeal to progressive so she says that she supports medicare for all and even laughed that that would necessarily mean that private Health Insurance plan plans would become illegal well after a lot of backlash and blowback she then tried to peddle back and say thats not what she really meant she did that twice so youre saying that shes not really handling the centrist versus progressive divide very well as shes campaigning in this primary michael what are your thoughts i know theres a lot to react to from what and he said as well you know i think this is an absolute this is a fascinating issue and i actually spend a lot of time thinking about this centrists are those that believe in the power of institutions to do good and working in this system and working through institutions and working with the rules and procedures of these institutions to moderate competing views i believe that the squad types believe more in radical proposals less interested in compromise less interested in coming up with best alternatives that are workable and are more interested in staking out a ground that everybody else that has to accommodate and work around theyre convinced of their own righteousness and they simply will not budge on these things this is fall long generational lines young people never like to hear that older folks had tried this before and it didnt work so maybe you should consider our experience so i think it falls along generational lines and i think the. Thats the definition of a moderate whether theyre fiscally conservative or socially liberal is a belief in the power of institutions and we see that perhaps more with war and then we do with sanders and we certainly see it with biden and where Camilla Harris is i agree with amy is having a hard time appealing to all those where senator jill brown would have been ok as a candidate if she progressed i think also would have been institutionalized as are the rest of the candidates in the field so really its sanders i think that is more interested in blowing these things up everybody else would have an easier time pivoting to the center after getting through these caucuses and primaries and matthew lets not forget the guys in general and i just want to make 11 point in reaction to that and you can you can frame your reaction with this in mind as well but i would think that that the squad see cetera and also Bernie Sanders would probably frame themselves more as kind of the labor Party Version of the Democratic Party as opposed to being anti institutional i mean they certainly are still want to be a part of the democratic process and so forth would they not and they go ahead well i mean i think they think of themselves as the conscience of the party you know where the the heart of the party really is which i dont agree with i dont think that thats a correct or accurate assessment you know i would also add lets not forget that senator sanders Bernie Sanders from vermont he is actually an independent and a self described democratic socialist as a o. C. And others which is far to the left of the American Center in politics but they believe thats where you know truth justice and what should be the american way where it lies id like to also throw in a poll that just came out published in the hill newspaper that i think is really instructive that a vast majority of voters were talking 2 thirds to 3 quarters depending on their Party Affiliation that they actually want their congressperson or senator to work with the other side they think that that is a valuable attribute. And skill that helps put our country forward and are willing to compromise you dont see compromise on the squad way of the Party New York times has reported that while President Trumps economic advisers do not see a recession on the horizon they worry that gloomy news reports and repeated downturn warnings could turn fear of a recession into a reality is this something that can even become like a selffulfilling prophecy any. Well we know economically it can that if you know people lose their sense of optimism about the future that changes their spending habits their savings habits and of course that has a follow on Ripple Effect economically now i dont have the expertise to tell our viewers whether or not we are headed into recession but there are warning signs and red flags on the horizon that President Trump needs to Pay Attention to and that he needs to recognize including his trade war with china and imposing those tariffs have cost the American Economy and very specific groups of voters voters he needs were talking about those rural voters farmers etc and by the way theyre not just farmers they are people who work at walmart in rural areas of america who you know are in the Service Industry in some of those rural districts and if they are feeling the economic pinch then their feelings about President Trump may start to be a problem and mark mellman hes a well known democratic pollster he is you know said publicly hes like on the one hand hes concerned about the focus currently in the democratic democratic primary field on a lot of these social issues but hes as he says it only takes a couple of points to move some of those rural districts from purple to blue donald trump needs to worry about that michael do you agree we are always always always in our interconnected increasingly social media and information driven economy just a moment away from an economic meltdown and it could happen here in the United States because there are things we dont even know that we dont know about lending practices and the solve in c. Of banks those institutions attached to the massive Student Loan Debt economy but it could also happen at a Financial System in china it could start in japan it could start in europe as a consequence of a new brags of controversy we are always just a heartbeat away from a massive economic meltdown and its only people who run. Now are being seen as outliers and radicals and crying wolf like those who saw the early fiscal meltdown and Mortgage Backed security crisis years ago no one took them seriously then and there are voices out there we have to think should we be taking them more seriously and how that impacts the president ial election is another thing thats a giant that you know i grew faith in so much is you know calling you know and going on social media and attacking the fed concerning Interest Rates the way to do it is we say were on from michael amy thank you so much for your time today thank you matthew more politicking after the break. Its a long rush and winds. 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When the crime and merry go round if theres only the one percent. We can all middle of the room 6. 1000000 really need. To become. We have to become harder to robots. You know we have to become creatures like. Iraq or iran or the superhero movies. Then i dont think i dont see them or i dont want to be algorithm. Welcome back to politicking on matthew cook sitting in for larry king its a pleasure to welcome my next guest back to the program he is philip k. Howard the founder of common good a Nonpartisan Coalition which advocates for simplifying the Us Government he recently penned an op ed about the democratic president ial debate stating that the candidates are so far promising the moon and ignoring our broken government lets dive deeper into that as philip a noted commentator and bestselling author joins me from new york so philip lets just jump right in you write that the president ial debates so far have largely ignored the key issue of the last several elections which is a commitment to overhaul washington can you explain that. Yeah every president who got elected since jimmy carter has gotten elected on a platform not the only platform of reigning in excess bureaucracy americans hate it there are lots of studies about why they hated it demeans them it makes them worry about things that they know dont matter your nurses bit half their day filling out forms teachers are worried to care told not to put an arm around crying child that sort of stuff and and the democrats with one or 2 exceptions certainly the leading democrats have no not even talking about that issue americans hate washington if the democrats want to get elected they do far better if they actually said yes we need to address new issues like Climate Change or income disparity but we need to fix washington too and so why isnt that democrats dont go after this sort of thing because its not part of the narrative not since al gore and bill clinton did talk about it but not since then has anybody talked about it i mean right now the debate its in such a deep rut they cant even see over the edge its deregulation versus more regulation well i dont think the American People are going to vote for somebody who says lets just have more and more regulation but they might vote for somebody who said we need to deal with Climate Change and income stagnation and by the way we need to restore practicality and common sense to this big bureaucratic blob thats grown up in 50 years so lets clean that out while we address the new things thats perfectly consistent with the democratic platform in your op ed you know the democratic president ial candidate andrew yang stands alone in presenting concrete ideas for overhauling broken government whats your assessment of what hes advocating. Well i think his stuff is its great its overhauling the self i call for in my in my we know new book try common sense its overhauling Civil Service its. Raining in crazy lawsuits its putting sunset clauses on old laws so that they need to be reviewed to see if theyre working as intended i mean nobody intended. The special ed laws to use up 25. 00 or 30 percent of the total k. To 12 budget in america nobody intended the federal education bureaucracy to make schools have more noninstructional personnel than teachers so so did they go fix it so that laws help this who benefits from all these insane regulations oh theres a whole industry of people i mean its theres a red tape industry and its headquartered in washington which is one of the reasons that i call for an entry yang is called for and im moping that others and dr donald trump is trying to do this too to start moving agencies out of washington you get leave this sort of toxic culture where people are used to making money on filling out below pushing paper from one side of the death of the other side if you were one of the people who was moderating the democratic debates what question would you ask the candidates. Oh i would ask them i said what are you going to do about government to begin to cure the alienation that most americans feel towards it you know what how are you going to reform government so its actually responsive so that its practical donald trump is approaching his 1000th day in the oval office how do you rate his presidency in terms of common sense. You know i give him maybe a 4 out of 10 lyle a 4 out of 10 how come yeah. Well i think he has a lot of good ideas that we drain the swamp to good idea the fact that china has been cheating us for decades its a good idea you know dealing with those problems is common sense but he hasnt. So is it does have to sit or point that its any gets 4 points for the idea and then he loses 6 points because of lack of execution is that what youre saying yeah and he gets a few points by just not going further and breathing down peoples necks so the economy is as gotten some advantages by by him just not going after in a punitive way for regulatory you know businesses for regulatory foot fault and thats clearly one of the things that is driving a somewhat robust stock market and so when you say foot faults do you mean sort of minor infractions technical infractions yeah thats one of thing and so in prior administrations you had regulators who would just go after people for. Millions or tens of millions of dollars or 5 pounds for things that really matter to no one you know a. Technical breaches or are unintentional breaches to privacy regulations for hospitals and then they get sued by the department of civil rights when these people are just trying to do their job so in your estimation with regards to regulation the Trump Administration is serving the common good well. Ultimately no because. Because ultimately whats needed is to restore the 3 in power everyone americans and officials alike to use their common sense and donald trump doesnt have that idea hes eased up on the pedal thats fine but he isnt actually going to system you know area by area and actually simplifying in fixing the worker safety laws and. You know Consumer Protection laws in a way that allow people to use their common sense the youve talked about the Green New Deal a bunch of times whats your assessment of that. Well its just not practical i mean they couldnt achieve it if they had all the money in the world and it takes all the money in the world so you know i happen to believe in dealing with Climate Change and i think thats going to cost money and its going to require tough Foreign Policy because the u. S. Only you know come emits 15 percent of the carbon that people are or worried about so but i dont think you can pay for that until you clean out all the way i mean and try commonsense i go after 10. 00 programs Everybody Knows are broken and they waste a trillion dollars a year where you can do a lot with a trillion dollars for the environment and for income fag nation if the democratic if there was a democratic candidate andrew young for example was was the next president of the United States do you think there would be the political will in washington the kind of bipartisan support for a common sense approach to really clean up washington to reform the way washington works. If theres a mandate from the voters to do it it can be forced upon washington and thats why its really important to start a movement to have a vocabulary with a mandate that says reboot washington and its only when you get this idea of rebooting washington into public circulation and get widespread support for it that anything can ever happen so youre in line with Bernie Sanders that its going to take millions of people engaged in the democratic process to really get anything done regardless of what the agenda item may be thats absolutely correct and by the way thats the lesson of history go back to the 1960 s. With the Civil Rights Movement or the Environmental Movement or the 1930 s. With millions of People Living on the streets or the progressive era or the civil war you know it always takes people it always takes the people getting involved and whats happened for 50 years is we slowly become an app. And t. Democracy weve seeded government and elected officials over to this professional class a now we wake up and realize that theyre not serving our interest lets lets go back and analyze the vine airy argument that youve so i think correctly criticized of regulation verses you know more regulation versus less in 2016 candidate trump pledged to kill to obama era regulations for every new one that his administration imposed in this summer his acting Budget Office director asserted that the rate was actually 13 to one whats your analysis is that accurate in the 1st place well 1st of all are you know i happen to actually think his his we had tacking you know chief of staff if it with it with mulvaney it actually quite good youre dealing with 150000000 words a federal law if you get rid of pickett 13000 words for every 1000 words that you put in your fill not making a dent through the you know osha has got 4000 regulations so whats needed is not kind of at the margin even at a ratio of 13 to one whats needed is to go area by area starting with schools and hospitals and you know the areas that really of impact people in their daily lives and say how can we simplify this so that people can make practical choice to take 4000 pages to abuse an example and turn them into a 100 pages philip thank you so much for your time today great to be with you matthew and thank you for joining me on this edition of politicking and also thank you larry for letting me sit in your chair today remember we love hearing from use to join the conversation on larrys Facebook Page and as always you can share your thoughts on twitter by tweeting at kings things and use the politicking hash tag i also invite you to join me on facebook at matthew cook official and thats all for this edition of politicking. 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