Welfare policy joining me now to go through it is going underground Deputy Editor charlie cook charlie what is happening with universal credit in these final days i think we need to do a moratorium well last full week in office and shes been talking a lot about legacy when it comes to ground the wind rush generation but you also been talking about universal credit which is mostly known for how bad the reception has been this 5 week waiting to be massively criticized and some have said the waiting periods up to about 12 weeks and pushes people already in debt further into hardship because even if they have a successful claim they have to wait 5 weeks before that benefit comes in and everyone from the parliamentary work and Pensions Select Committee the charity the Trussell Trust to being critical of the Trussell Trust as you said 12 months after roll out in an Area Food Bank demand rises 52 percent even the un special rapporteur on extreme poverty has said that the policy is fast falling into universal discredit so thats what the un special rapporteur is saying who is in charge of the alleged disaster for britains most vulnerable so its currently amber up you may remember had to resign in april 28th secretary for what she says was inadvertently misleading m. P. s in relation to deportation figure. In the wind. People of color yet and she was back 8 months later. Amazed beleaguered government taking an estimate of a year resigned over bracks it interestingly also misled parliament around universal credit figures but all change on the 23rd of july and why do we care about tomorrows universal credit statistics so youre right we dont know who is going to be the next Prime Minister yet and we dont know whos going to be in that cabinet but we do a pretty good idea of how they both approach will approach universal credit because in the head to head debate last week they were both asked if they would scrap the policy jeremy hunt said this you know its the right system its got teething problems we need to deal with the 5 week wait which has caused a lot of distress but the principle is right so he acknowledged the 5 we still says the policy is the right thing to do and said this people who are some credit speaking as a constituency m. P. I do find people who have problems with it but they are being addressed i do think its the right way forward and help people to work. So light on detail but the sentiments the same they both would keep universal credit i mean obviously teething issues is quite a thing to say when so many people so many people are in pain i understand theres a lot of privatization outsourcing deloitte having to go through the quarter because of a 1000000 or 80 firm queen movie got 3000000 for a t. Do you think we should give the 80 for those of outsourcing contractors and other d. W. P. Little and raise me a break so said the figures ive been astonishing to disability groups in particular have seen the amount of money as you mention the things you mentioned 600000 going into privatized and yet the system is still in such distress and the teething problems that jeremy hunt mentioned is probably referencing a d. W. P. Own report which said that some cases universal universal credit did cause Financial Difficulties but some are going to even further linking it to 2 rise and set and even suicides. Even p. C. s the union represents workers in the d. W. P. Has asked for the policy to be scrapped to replace what we had sure the wife of the former Prime Minister tony blair on about arbitrated tension in the un special rapporteur she said the un doesnt have an army what does it is anything going to happen because Philip Alston is complaining about universal credit rights to a lot of activists this is the issue because this is now the 5th un report into possible austerity linked to Human Rights Violations that the un have issued and it kind of its also parallel because recently theres been an opportune torturers come to the u. K. To investigate the case of julian the sanj his conclusion was that julius once had been psychologically tortured he was equally dismissed by the government Philip Alston has shown frustration with the fact that hes been dismissed he wrote an article independent last month saying i proved it will sterrett it destroys lives and all the government has done is try to discredit me i mean its slightly disturbing in the context of the report which has some incredibly pressing creates he found. 40000000 People Living in poverty rising infant mortality rates falling Life ExpectancyFood Bank Usage skyrocketing rising homelessness and overloaded and struggling schools and police this is he said most of these problems are the direct result of Government Policies in his final report and may accuse ministers being in a state of denial about policies like universal credit responded like this we are not so perhaps we dont think we can learn as we try to adjust to universal credit for the benefit of everybody but that sort of language was totally inappropriate and actually discredited a lot of what he was saying she was supposedly going to lodge a complaint with the un about the report but i also d. W. P. And they havent yet confirmed whether or she did that they did however give me this statement saying the uns own data shows the u. K. Is one of the happiest places in the world to live and other countries have come here to find out more about how we support people to improve their lives therefore this is a barely believe full documentation of britain based on a tiny period of time spent here it paints a completely inaccurate picture of our approach to tackling poverty you can find that full statement online maybe if you can get in touch with going underground tell us how happy they are on universal credit jolly good thank you if tomorrows universal credit figures demonstrate anything it will be Class Division a concept painfully clear to our next guest the royal ballet schools youngest ever principal ballet dancer before dropping the establishment to go solo surrogate balloon grew up you know arguably i. M. F. Destroyed ukraine going underground went to 20 studios in east london to ask one of the greatest dancers in the world about challenging Class Division through art thank you so much for inviting us to the dance studio before we even get to the italian too or the premiere of romeo and juliet in verona what do you think about the critics here in britain do they fear you wouldnt you want to be in your reaction to your palladium shows i dont really know what to think about it its its an interesting observation and a few times they stopped me you know Going Forward in a way you know i can afford to buy a good but critics can really ruin support and that you have to begin with it was hard when you go. But critics when you 1st time do something people still believe in the new especially in the u. K. And that can be very very tough and i had few a few tough years that i had to prove to my team to the people around i will still carry the go and i believe in what im doing critics i think sometimes have agenda or have the way they work and its not always helpful for art and artists in famous you rework some rite of spring stuff and when gaggle of cocteau and stravinsky were doing right or spring 100 or so years ago they booed that is anything really changed is it to do with the way youve choreographed rite of spring in the last. The 1st full i want to say the music is still relevant and its and its amazing and usually in ski and live over sleep over so inspiring still carries on what they did many years ago and actually i dont know its richard just people when theyve done to this powerful music for 36 minutes straight people get. Recharged and its its a powerful piece actually powerful tool but again its who you want to believe they want to believe audience and we want to believe critics and the judging they judging this new way youre doing radio spring or the judging the fact you left the royal ballet and into a link of this so many many things i dont think they like the way i live or deal like. The freedom of it and also i left establishment which they did punish me at certain times for. And there also i didnt say good things about them either. Its like. You know i dont think theyre a positive thing in the world and they dont think im a good. For the culture is a close thing because other parts of the world ballet is for the people arguably weve covered it in cuba are we going to lead america or in its rush or but over here obviously not so many people can afford the ticket prices but. Is there a problem of out the ballet establishment in this country it does in the way countries set up its its a little bit of restrict in the way it even by a lady its restrictive you know you dont go 100 percent its a little bit lower arms its a little bit more cold so we see it there is like country i guess has rules and you feel that and if you feel that art also and then dunson and then different country have different different responses and different different understanding sometimes and i cannot say in england audiences are amazing in all of audience and thats why im coming back to england and coming back to u. K. A lot of the people and all of that wouldnt but the part of this is its hard to. Penetrate that or change it and they dont want to change what is a jealousy envy i mean do you think the clus ridden establishment saw the viral video of you dunce into the hozier track 27000000 views or whatever and thought they were somehow angry about the success of it what was going on the low live show its but bali is for the rich in it is a divide and divide in itself even more from normal people so it is a luxury a thing to have and people actually dont want the rich people dont want other people to have it youre going to do ruin juliet premiering it in one of the best preserved ancient arenas on earth what do you expect to get that show in verona in there on the for me i have goals in life you know and the one of the biggest goals was to perform for a remus and to be able to is my own team is mum production to create a couple work which is the most which is the hardest to pull on. You need to have resources you need to have time you need to have teams you need to build sets. So 1st time im actually achieving these 2 big goals in classical ballet i will be done doing classical work that Everybody Loves me doing and. You know i studied that in the hometown of the blood of romeo and juliet exactly and they happened by accident it wasnt like plot oh its very wrong theres going to be romeo it wasnt just i want to to work with you one called burke who by chance wanted to the roman jew lit and i got invitation from the digger on the to do something at the same time and i and i was like oh this is a perfect opportunity to combine the 2 people who enjoy it who is now you know who listens to police mr rock they can easily come go there and and said oh thats cool lets create presumably you were a bit disappointed with these people as activists because you just mentioned brooke because they know that youre on the record for liking Freddie Mercury and jordan and various other famous activists or the very you know what do you make of these activists trying to shut it down it does on the ground waters and actually some people dont want. Let me into a tight end market it is a competition and certain people control the markets and they dont one other people to come in and suddenly to have this freedom of doing whatever they want to do whos going to say they know its going to be bad but they put this rumors out and they happens to me quite often in the vix you notice when its competition other dunces go to direct and say this is my place so minimal you know dont invite him because its you know youre going into their territory and its hard for this to accept it and i got kicked out a few times from the sea at this or you happened to les kelly hoppen thrilled by it other dunces help and 2 parter soper it was nothing to do is my instagram it was was other dunces my instagram just gave them a Little Something to catch on to make a scandal out of it the but. Its one of the reasons im doing my own stuff its to have freedom to the world want and i want actually other done system have the freedom and the artists to just be able to create and do stuff obviously dunce is supposed to be completely controlled quiet and have no or told me it. Is true and this system is built so. That we tell you what to do even though i love to go to toilet you know to come on you know a lot to warm up you know its very they dictate to you what they want and the currys own. So actually originated in the king of france he loved bali but theyve done so school dance for him where presence didnt evolve theres no management theres no agents theres no theres no freedom and. Been abused like that done since having no right for anything and they dont know about that they believe in their bubble they think im a bad guy because i come out of their bubble but i see how much theyve been taken advantage of because weve talked to hollywood actors who feel theres a bubble where you can say anything nice about donald trump even if you and you go under attack for seemingly wanting i dont know dialogue between. Whatever you know lead to say that either. As a human beings we all have different opinions but as a collective mind we have to sting in one way and if you dont think that way you get kicked out and thats been supported and to be honest a lot of people agree with me but collectively they have to go. And publicly say either way so again in the city there from surrogate balloon after this break. 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What role does the media because the powerful have the media really. Well you have your own social media of media is the extreme really powerful and important and its a tool but yes they can look silly. Im like he understood that theres many countries in the world so i. If i dont die if for example england or america or any other country doesnt support me because i am i am looking at the world as the world or maybe the media is different from those people itself because you go indeed Russian Media has been a bit critical and what is going on in europes largest country ukraine you are a birth place where are there some going to blacklisting going on ukraine yes i was unfortunately been blacklisted in ukraine when they were does that mean that you contact romeo and juliet. And i cannot and country and they want to take my passport away but they couldnt legally blood before. Election the new president of ukraine that was before us before and it was because i performed in the crimean and i want to cross the border and then he stopped they stopped me actually they they help me one of the people in the Cultural Department in ukraine he called me and said do not cross the border because he will be taken or done sing. And yes. And that kind of kicked my thinking of its like ok thats not right yeah i still cannot. Goaded which is shame because they have. Grandmothers you are afraid about the rise of fascism in ukraine i think we live in there bit of a dark time where is. Bet is a bit over power and. Good and and i dont support russia because. Its russia like i see it as a good. Ministration doing actually good in the world and thats why i decided to support them and you know its controversial here in britain russia of course yes and i actually think youve brought britain and russia would get along. There could be no war in the world its just 2 countries have to find the right. Connection or the outgoing Prime Minister teresa mayes is the russians killed people using chemical weapons. I mean this a lot of them thinks. Its going to give a do tonight im going to get into the film career in a 2nd but do you think ballet education is Getting Better since the days when your parents had to save so much money for you to be educated know whats whats really good about this is the case in this that you want to get out its hunger of having the better life that you work hard and you dont want to stay there and you dont want to come back to that hunger made you work harder. Than the rest because if you live in the comfortable conditions. Why should they push whats a go what for me was. The scape and the opportunity. And thats why it works hard to you know to help the family to help myself. And that gives you this. Adrenalin the gold and the power to go forward what is it about ballet then that is so political because coco is associated with the French Communist Party we did something on this program about Carlos Acosta who was shocked everyone by going back to cuba after he was in london nuria of course used by the americans as a cold war tool why is it always ballet more than any other art form ghibli i mean the round ball is extremely important and influential people because its stayed there so around it its Business People politicians its important people actually around it. But also if you come back to the original of human nature you know used to be and then people used to worship him and stand around and see this one thing dunson who were who was a leader. And when people see you downs. They kind of worship you know they they put you in the different level and they listen to you and they they want to be like you or they inspired by you so you have the power of influence people but this sort of language the not yet discovered fully. Its a credible powerful language we dont see the readings the parties we just restrict ourselves where we tend to become the. But there should be in our d. N. A. It is another d. N. A. We just need to use it. Whats it done to you when you fight against those in power who want to use your power that as a defense i would look i like to help people who i think need help and i believe and you know i if i see an artist who needs help to be able to do a movie for example the movie i will give myself and my time to the person if i believe in that person if i believe in the political and that hes doing the right thing i will give my time and my. Vote and devotion to him but if youre an artist in the establishment wants to crush you would advise would you give that just. Back or just. The only thing can crush is yourself its you and your self nobody. Nobody can do anything unless you start you start destroying yourself for example. If somebody says something and knocked her or and you nonestablishment wants to get rid of him he starts to drink he starts to take drugs he starts to kill himself basically and then he cannot come back either if you know where you go into if youre. Straight region if youre sober if you have amazing people around you who you have to trust and surround and nothing can stop you. You build your own the stuff and having said that. Big mainstream films do like you you would murder in the Orient Express with Kenneth Branagh red sparrow just tell me about the new one. In the show simply yes its. Amazing and direct. Its a story about love relationship between man french woman and russian. And its its a true story and its. And its very passionate and a very good film i think is if i didnt mess it up. Its going to be amazing movie because everything was top notch it was r t was coming to work because the amazing luxuries and doctors around me it was going to do more film i mean i did actually i should ask where there any of the performances of this version of romeo and juliet are going to be available video as well a little who it is in the mind i would love to film it i would love to film it properly and i think thats language in the movie is going to be a very big and its going to happen soon and you know going to jump on it somebody else will we be surprised when the viral video went out and people who might not normally watch ballet were always force used to it and there was a sort of i was in the negative stated that that time and when they saw a video i actually was disappointed and i thought oh well just about i did the opposite excessive although it just didnt happen just not good enough to me it was my dance and and when they put it out when they put out on you tube people were started coming up to me and say oh this is amazing video and that was a politically say you know the. Kind of i was a little bit embarrassed by it. Suddenly i realized i have to go towards light not. Love to be the bad guy but to be the good guy who inspires people thats to me was more effective and more powerful and you personally really were down it wasnt a case of stendhal of skin thing oh no it was and then actually the war was just starting to go in the crate and i was crying for 9 hours during the video and it helped me. Thinking about this young man in the you know its help me he does is joining the sniper fire in the square. From ukraine yes and. Yes that was good and then there was. Suspected as provoking to us and then there was actually it was started to this useless war on the borders. And actually one of the people there who were as a crew member he went to fight and he disappeared forever so in donbass. In the northeast what do you think of the Media Coverage of all these sorts of events and because when you talk even about jean ukraine if you read the Mainstream Media reports here in britain they have rather a different view i dont think you can trust it. And its interesting travel and. Travel in the around the world because he she. He she different Media Coverage is and its all different and when it comes to criticism will you forgive all these critics when youre here say back on top in riyadh will we see you not forgive them. When theyre desperately trying to get an interview with you actually of the me i really im thankful that theyre writing about me to me its already amazing. So good and bad its like to me im thankful that somebody actually stopped me. Give me but theyre saying its terrible. Now i dont that. Doesnt affect me just was hard 2 years ago when i. Didnt know that will help and and my team wasnt prepared and. Establishment. Listens to critic which is that on their mind they listen to newspapers i dont know whether you call glastonbury the big Music Festival here one of the largest in the world and storm z. The grime the most mainstream crime story really came out and talked about ballet and racism in ballet. And you know with the horses i dont know joe because he was talking about the color of ballet shoes they were only one color for ages and ages signs of ballet is getting more and more mainstream that it was up there unless it still works as they worked 100 years ago. I dont see that much. Sort of. Change the way its represent. Its very many bugs are still many when you bones or. Both of you enjoy that episode of going underground will continue showing your favorite episodes from this season and you are back for a brand new season on wednesday the 11th of september until then keep it up via social media and dont forget our you tube channel these. 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