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Still hold a smoke coming up in todays going on the ground but 1st days before the 40th anniversary of aga billy one of the most important revolutions in willed history were with dr poole acquisti private secretary for National Policy to the nicaraguan president Daniel Ortega bull welcome to going on the ground i know youre here for the defend the Media Freedom conference from which i along with i t. Was banned but ive got to stop i wish to express my solitary toward t. And to sputnik for being banned from the freedom of expression conference as strange as it might it may sound. And im going to ask you about that in a 2nd but you know there have been terrible events in the one doris its the 10 Year Anniversary of the Obama Clinton backed coup detat there and of course on doris was the place we had to go up to the flying over your country back in the 1980 s. To kill your people tell me about what your understanding is of the situation on tourists what its like to say when a coup detat took place on the 28th of june 2009. Democratic stability with the election. And is coup de tat broke that constitution oh a continuity you were there and i was there i was there as an observer for the United NationsGeneral Assembly president father may go to scotto we were with. The night before and he said yes there was a coup attempt on thursday but it had been overcome so everything was fine and the next day there was supposed to be this consultation like a plebiscite a vote on an informational basis it wasnt binding legally binding or anything like that and it was you know i was suppose there was supposed to wake me up at 6 oclock and it was 8 oclock at that somethings wrong here and then all of a sudden i put the television on there was no television ice at all and then i heard it swoosh jets flying low over the. City i reached the conclusion of what supersonic jets are good for and latin america is to announce the coups but why is it then that president Obama Hillary clinton the seen as the Great Peacemaker is in the normally when you are all you have you only have to read Hillary Clintons biography that are her admitting the u. S. Simply cation in the coup in honduras she was the author of the libya war shes and made it to the under in kuwait her own biography Jeremy Corbin here is leader of the labor party hes in some opinion polls in the past few days hes been leading he was a lifelong supporter hes a lifelong supporter of the sandinista revolution i think given that the vote he then of us are coming up i know that is you probably want to talk about tourism and make people visit the garage go for the beaches what is the relevance of nicaragua to a country like britain that a leader of the opposition should have cared so much about your party in managua and nicaragua the people who continue to maintain that what happened last year in nicaragua where peaceful demonstration is and it was all the result of government reparation a peaceful demonstration and deny it was a coup detat attempt backed by the United States who ignore that 24 police were killed 400 in one Police Wounded by gunshot they also ignore statements by the president Vice President secretary of state and National Security advisor of the United States of america and to the us aggression against nicaragua why then we hearing i should say we hearing things about venezuela in this country the Prime Minister outgoing Prime Minister treys m a has been talking saying the venezuelan government basically should be overthrown and were hearing from the socalled. Eft in this country that is your government to be user of human rights because theres human rights reports that are totally one sided the human rights reports do not report nonstate actors its a major structural flaw which makes this one sided and its used by those who want to promote fake information widely so for example when bismarck martinas city worker and my now government is driving to visit his family in a tepi and one of the barricades of the terrorists during their events of last year captured him just as city worker he was tortured and then murdered others have been burnt but that doesnt figure in the human race reports white figure is the police liberating neighborhoods that have been invaded there was neighborhood and home invasions by these terrorists and when the police go in they say the police are representing in the fake news its picked up massively and their Corporate International media and the United States was financing this its open record of how much money was given to the media and the politicians who are involved in us claims it was humanitarian aid not good to us and when we do support for democracy is one of the things the nice lindau movies they create the yeah exactly they create an enclave of pro us journalists pro us activists pro us politicians and when it that when you get to a critical time like that coup attempt theyre all activated the left continue to say that you are a sellout sundanese theyre really dont know what theyre talking about because. In the 1970 s. And in 1000 seventies there was this struggle against a some osa dictatorship in the eightys this true. Go against the u. S. Cocaine financed cocaine financed look at the movie made in america with tom cruise or the movie about the san jose reporter who he web yeah you know who was whose life was ruined because he was reporting ok would go into it you know and then coming to do a lot of this when he went to intel pro you know through using cointelpro is going now Something Like the days of cointelpro expose by the late gary webb you think that that kind of thing is going on now the media really finance though theyre fine and you know the whole thing is that the iran contra scandal was a spin it was a spin that the administration could survive it was a spin to distract attention from the real scandal which was a coke cocaine scandal and who knows if the cia and i could survive and they got ministrations survived a scandal about their being the sores of the cocaine epidemic in the black and latin neighborhoods of the United States in the 1980 s. But what im going at is to answer your previous question a story that i need to know is still there in the eightys and our objective was a survive surviving became the object of not really delivering the promise of the revolution ok but what i dont know but i will skip right now i would say albeit that he said that other countries in the in the socalled backyard have suffered which were proamerican have suffered much was why would he say that. That basically nicaragua responds to repeated attacks from the north as being on the sanctions will annoy has been corruption in the sandinistas and repression of the population in the thats ridiculous thats absolutely ridiculous the kind of me between 20112000. 18 has been growing at 5 percent per annum an average this is the 3rd highest growth rate in latin american and caribbean only after a Dominican Republic and panama extreme poverty has been reduced the World Economic forum extremes are harboring has been reduced from 17 percent to 6 percent so you see the advance of women the advance of the poor the advance of the Indigenous People we are now in a period of harvesting results for the nicaraguan people that we fought for so hard but couldnt deliver in the eightys because the objective became survival thats not something that is to the to the liking some people in miami that we have a christian social distance out a dairy model that works to say dont have what is a state of health care and right now nicaragua has a universal Free Health Care system a National Health service i mean if you are a good Healthcare System agent christian there and we have a picture of your president with the pope over there why did the pope appear to say both sides when it came to this you seem to be alleging u. S. Backed coup against the government in nicaragua i disagree with the vatican has been very positive and looking for a negotiation that leads to a National Reconciliation and National Unity after. The rights because nicaragua has been under attack for bt rights for its rights for women as regards that is also ridiculous its false knows its fortune is bad abortion is going to ride with us friend day sunday needs to have said vans diversity sexual diversity explicitly and vigorously this is a very conservative society this advance and women and this vance and l g b t rights are very significant and such a conservative society you were at a conference then finally on defend Media Freedom sponsored by canada and the British Foreign office obviously as i told you i was banned. What did you make of the conference on Media Freedom and a lot of people saying that your government attacks journalists attacks Media Freedom in nicaragua you were at the conference i should add was 77 miles away from where julian the songes imprisoned i invite. I invite your Television Audience to go into it up inside and. Go into confit in. Kurdistan on their show moto to go into the printer going back across time or look at dont know t. C. As before when it was operating and look at the enormous pressure freedom i dont know of another country where people could call for the violent overthrow of the government day after day of the day after day without consequence i mean a simple look with thank you after the break as Extinction Rebellion protests just take to the streets of london today on the 5th anniversary of turings amaze me ship game of thrones star environmental activist droom flynn the conservative environmental policy destroys the minds of working people as well like that and. So on. But is everything ok with u. K. Labor needed colin as he promotes tony blairs war mandarins all the more coming up in part 2 of going underground. Welcome to max keiser financial survival guide. Looking forward to the. Yanks this is what happens to pensions in britain. Watched kaiser report. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to us from the world of politics or business im show business ill see you then. Welcome back in the dying days of teresa mayes. Foolish premiership she had to answer questions just as a scandal forced britains man in washington to quit his job the whole cabinet rightly gave its full support to the came on she used to sit came has given a kidney has given a lifetime of service to the United Kingdom and an enormous debt of gratitude the whole cabinet supported him but he still quits not exactly a ringing endorsement of foreign secretary jeremy hunt Foreign Policy cache anyway what did about the labor leader Jeremy Corbyn have to say about the mandarin 1st brought in to number 10 by alleged war criminal tony blair to regret the resignation of succumbed i think the comments made about him are beyond unfair and wrong i think hes given on noble and good service and he should be thanked for it and i think the whole house should join together in d. P. Regretting the feeling that hes obviously got that he must resign at this moment yes thats foremost stop the war chairman jeremy call been paying homage to a man promoted up to tony blairs destruction of iraq not to do that said kim became National Security adviser after wiki leaks cable gauge it was on to him the julian asylums would be arbitrarily detained in the Ecuadorian Embassy in london mind you it is corbin who is promote its against ahmed to be his shadow brechts at secretary and he is implicated in prolonging swedish allegations against the wiki leaks founder well give me the left and right dont like corbin on justice. If its the labor party actually really cared about the injustices theyd have done a darn sight more when they were in. Corbin had been asking about the internationally condemned legal aid slashing policies of tourism a bit she and the b. B. C. A much more interested in battering him over alleged bigotry in a week when he didnt say a word to defend a lie Chris Williamson is the right honorable gentleman is really interested in tackling injustices then the biggest injustice he should tackle is in his own labor party and deal with the interest that is corbin tried to defend himself she hears about the lecturing howard back the investigation into islamophobia 1 in iraq. But why doesnt corbin speak up for those whove been thrown out of labor after attacking islamophobia he could even have a name checked know him chomsky educating a whole generation of lobby journalists because the jewish intellectual is on the record for defending corbin what has happened to his principles ask me to spin or youre a skeptic all his life now he perhaps remain peacenik truly living up to the words of marx those are my principles and if you dont like them ive got authors. I know i know the russian which angela is keen to get to dispatch box when the main knocks is. What is really going to point out in those were the words not of car but of crouch out call famously said the point was to change the world in one m. P. Question may 3 years to the day she became pm about her commitment to the most important issue in the world i and please see the Prime Ministers wearing green i hope it is not merely agree mosh as i welcome the fact that good unless safety nets are 2050 before they did when they talk this week become easy for Climate Change already reports they were going to miss their target and today. They said that the policy ambition implementation now fall well short of what is required but with parliament gridlock by bracks it is arguably fall into those outside of westminster to blow the whistle on the imminent climate catastrophe from the legendary actor mark rylan stew the Extinction Rebellion activists protesting in london today they are backed by the activist and star of game of thrones jerome flynn who is most recently been supporting the fight against factory farms in Northern Ireland he joins me now jerome welcome to going underground so we had the Great British naturalist documentary maker david out of Bird Parliament dogging about the importance of activism in the environment tell me about the campaign against factory farms in Northern Ireland something you got involved enjoying or thought about when youre feeling game of thrones i think. Theyre wonderful tracey who who started farms not factories whos an extremely passionate woman whos been fighting to bring an end to factory farming the horrors of it she got in touch with me when i was there filming i didnt know what was going on and i think she saw a nice link there the fact that we were filming very near lock for oil and in the beautiful Northern Irish countryside and i had no idea what was being proposed and planned and already put in place in place in some cases for Northern Ireland and thats for some reason they somethings got through the net in Northern Ireland theres things that are being proposed and being allowed that its bad enough in the u. K. Generally but in Northern Ireland this been some leniency in terms of the wards of the laws of whats being allowed through but the locals i mean were talking for this particular one in them a valley. 80000 pigs 80000 pigs in inside unable to see the light of day or ever feel underneath their feet that alone. For me its a horror its something that i really hope that we can look back on and because you know ashamed that that that was ever allowed to happen i hope that we get to that point where if we dont then its not going to be a world worth living in and i think its its just an example of how supremely separated we have become from ultimately i think ourselves because we are part of nature we are intimately in kinship with it and our indigenous and sisters would naturally known but the nature of our modern life colonialism and materialism has brought to this point where we are able to treat these beautiful sentience sensitive being as if theyre just not alive and dont have any sense and what these pigs that alone just from a point of view of cruelty its like why is that being allowed why is our government supporting that and encouraging it. With these incentives for anaerobic digesters so theres that and then theres a pollution than this is how it affects the human population the environment the local. The local population of Northern Ireland there that that particular operation they would spread it would produce 66000. 00 tons of slurry of pig. Im told thats the equivalent of 273000 humans in one year and then limit vadi theres just Something Like 23000 humans so thats then spread on the fields the ammonia levels. For that like theyre going way over the creek critical levels the 3rd is going into the Water Systems into the lakes 76 percent of protected. Areas environmental areas and lakes the ammonia levels of gone skyrocketed from every angle you look at it theyre taking away the small family farms they want to put factories which have nothing to do with farming and you could see that because i mean theres me that apparently since the tories are liberal democrats have been into the 201126 percent rise in the us in terms of tree. Farms so in between scenes of game of thrones you could look out on the fields and see the intensive ones in the northern to know ive only learned about this since because i didnt have you know we did not like we had a lot of time to stroll around in a herd check out there and invariably we would be captured within somewhere where you know just for the cameras sake you werent able to my mind wasnt on farming although there is some damage being done but its not theyre not its not as if the local farmers are cashing in on it hes a businessman who see an opportunity to make from the amount of of they put in the anaerobic digesters they make money back its business the money goes to the city of london here well thats a lot of where the investment is coming to build these factories its people who just see a Business Opportunity so in terms it has no connection to farming the pork is then exported to china understand from. The activist groups. Trying to fight it in a verde but what do you make of that when the phrase the British Government uses is going for growth yeah woodrow think of the phrase well. This is whole thing about growth and progress which has infected a modern culture and our politicians tongues. That that seems to be the most important thing some kind of economic growth. For me the only thing that now in terms of the situation were in in our planet in our environment and now some top scientists are saying weve got 5 years to radically turnaround the the Carbon Emissions in the Climate Crisis i mean growth is caring for the whole its looking after our the wellbeing of our young people the well being of our environment thats growth thats progress and Everything Else in the name of growth and progress. Actually goes against that they would have you think when you saw the beaches of extinction or billions of drill and. Im grateful for it we have its like this is a situation that needs to change and is to change not in 23 years time it needs to change now and im encouraged im deeply moved by by the people that are saying no and you know gretta therm the 15 year old whos inspiring a revolution amongst the young she sees a very black and white and shes inspired me and shes and shes giving me hope and kind of breaking something open in me to when i see young people passionate about their plan planet because i remember when i was 15 i read i think some books some guy a book which was predicting all this for now and i was i had no idea and i was desperate and bless my mom and i was i remember being in tears in the kitchen and my mom bless her because shes my mom and she want didnt want me to worry too much and she was like you cant you cant make a difference now youre only 15 youve got to get on with your life and dont and i did but our young Church Children and im young and its not like i regret that and i love my mom for caring about it but now its like im so grateful that i am people that are rising up and if anybodys going to because its hard for us especially politically and for our peers of our generation so much shame and guilt i think about where weve got to grief that were not actually. Expressing that its when youve got young people saying what are you doing and you know that come our last breaths you know what how do we want our young people our children to remember us i think the author of the go well James Lovelock is about 100 now do you think these books read more in the curriculum. Because ricki lake home it was my Group Feeling about curricular i mean in terms of education and what were what our young people are learning and what the where the emphasis should be again its still so much about growth and progress you know career and making it. The number one should be their Mental Health their well being in terms of everything theyre facing into just the just being born in you know into the culture that weve and they their ancestors have created if you think that we were the reasons for the success of game of thrones awards millennial sort of gives them a kind of way into understanding these big geopolitical themes of the. Well i think the some wonderful. Comparisons and a very big metaphor which George George martin said he wasnt aware of when he was writing the books but hes just become aware of them i believe subconsciously something going was going on there with george the something pretty extraordinary about the fact that the most i think Popular Program thats ever existed in terms of a global war. Is portraying the story where youve got this human condition and all these warring families its based on our medieval history and theyre fighting for power you know to sit up to take the seat of power and they have to actually forget their differences and come together to take on this threat that is threatening the existence you know the whole survival of the species thats where were at now. The thats what our top scientists are telling us i dont know who else we can turn to turn to screw us closer because we were talking about more than sort of the greatest actors and right a great itself and one of the greatest activists as well yeah i mean he just severed sponsorship severed ties with the Royal Shakespeare company that the peaceful and the ship what is going on would be acting fraternity are they suddenly realizing that the earth is in dire straits well mark spin marks a very very aware sensitive man so hes been there while i dont think hes just suddenly woken up to. Except i think as the fact of rolling over the last 3 or 4 years the realisation of where were really at so you know i am grateful to mark for doing that and the more for whatever reason our culture is put actors in this position where they can have an influence even though i actually dont think mark was doing that to have an influence he just saying well i cant work for these people why would i why you know its like. Its bad is trading in slavery. Because youre trading in the lives of generations to come so. All power to him and i totally support that move and hopefully they are see all. Think twice about where theyre getting their support so how can we get involved with the campaign as regards in terms of forming so there is. Theres a petition theres a petition theres a couple but theres one particular so theres a change dot org has a petition which is to stop us intensive stuff style farming coming to britain and farms not factories. Is a wonder theres this wonderful platform which tracey set up and has been going years so you can go to farms not factories and find everything you need and we need to we need to let the government know that we care about our animals and we care about those ironically itll be some breaks or tears was it was the European Unions fault that all this intensify me was kicking off maybe now britain can finally do the kinds of things you have again i dont really care what they will use what they may own but break steve may or may not say or what leave campaigns may say this is just the facts. Both of you enjoyed that episode of going underground will continue showing your favorite episodes from this season and you will back for a brand new season on wednesday the 11th of september until then keep in touch via social media and dont forget our you tube channels you see