A good vacation but we have much to talk about let me go to alexander its been a few days since the g. 7 i came to an end one of the probably the most useless annual event in the world right now. And the interesting thing is looking at the News Coverage of it particularly in the west its all about trump everythings about trump and i think that really blindsides almost everyone looking at how International Relations are evolving and the relationship the between the United States and the European Union it seems to be floundering for a number of reasons or so eloquently curiously euro greek ok and greek really tough language but i know 2 good words in greek its hubris and stace s. And thats how i see the European Union meeting donald trump in france go ahead alex well well i think thats actually a very good because hubris is of course the when you have this overwhelming sense of pride which makes you aspire to more than you really can all. Be an invite nemesis down upon yourself star see this is when you cant actually shift because you are in such a divided position that there is no real possibility of movement it is a condition that exists within states or indeed within a law and says and i think that actually describes very well the situation with the g 7 because on the one hand or at least with the european part of the g 7 because on the one hand they cant accept that they doing anything wrong in International Affairs even though they see the United States is gradually drifting away from them and you are absolutely right to say the personalizing it all around donald trump is a huge mistake there are deeper reasons why this is happening at the same time they cant really shift their own paullus is to just because they are so divided amongst themselves on so many issues that they cant really come up with. Any good example very briefly is relations with russia some are talking about improving relations with russia macross says that but when it comes to taking any step at all even the token one of readmitting russia to the g 8 they cant bring themselves. To divide the hubris of that alexander me curious is that no ones even asked if russia wants to join the newly reformed ga but maybe well talk about that another time here in glynn it seems to me and in many ways looking at the characters. At the summit here. The European Union is stuck in 2014 i mean you know this whole issue of bringing up russia which kind of surprised me ok. Obviously the United States is not thinking about its relationship with its european allies its looking at what its doing and what it should do or shouldnt do with china and we have this whole steve bannon. Concept again of trying to bring russia into the fold which i think that train has left the station years ago again it shows the blindness and the the arrogance of western political elites who are so 2014 it seems to me theyre stuck there and they cant move away from it. I think thats what i would stand there and summarise quite well. The recognise something is wrong. Pointed out that if you create a europe without russia it pretty much automatically becomes a europe against russia as weve seen with this continuous expansion of europe more or less maintains its there are some relations so something has to give. And i guess. Going back and trying to undo all the things weve done wrong since the ninetys is of course very challenging especially for institutions such as the e. U. Wish doesnt really have much capacity to to change its course it is significant you have the capacity to learn im sorry say the obvious you know good comment because the the g 7 or g 8 its quite pointless organizations to begin with because if you want to really deal with the pressing issues of the world you need china and russia so this should really make it a g 9 than if. It was right but thats assuming that they even want to join Something Like that they dont they dont because its the palace to let me get a game here. Were kind of in agreement here that the the e. U. Members of the g 7 that are in the e. U. Theyre stuck in 2014 is it because they can admit that they were wrong about so maybe things well the problem is that the United States and the you cannot meet and that they were all on anything you know they revolted could be wrong you know because they. Dont know radicals but not is not its not. Ideology and general is not wrong you know its just bad person its you know bad characters who make it malfunction but its not. Just you know ukraine and russia its not just crimea to take a more obvious issue yemen you know the Congress Passed their bipartisan resolution requiring and american involvement but trumping can use to funnel money and arms into saudi arabia even though now it becomes apparent that the United Arab Emirates are leaving you know they theyve basically destroyed the country you know there is and you will see the war going on now between the sultan a yemeni separatist and the would you go into in yemen so that country was ruined the quote response there is a reaction but drama continues to ignore it and on russia you know a super rashis warse then the war in yemen you know or russia they made it a lot you know that these sanctions will be there try and cannot ignore them so russia is seen as something even more evil than the war yet at the same time let me go back to london here but i think theres a there is a at least among realist in looking at whats going on in the world and so much is going on that the western media ignores partly because its more entertained by either supporting or trashing trump is that the the you cannot solve many of these worlds problems without russia being at the table and i think that this goes back to my question to bob which is that they can admit they were wrong about that and they said that and this is whats really causing the deadlock here. Going back to the word hubris go ahead alex in love this well this well this is exactly right i mean the macro made this extraordinary speech after the g. 7 and of course it builds on some of the comments he made in a press conference he had when he. Did just before the g 7 in which he said you know that russia is a european country russia soldiers in europe driving russia away would be a strategic mistake it would win. Can the west create conflict there but then when it comes to. Actually proposing anything he comes up with nothing at all it is the russians who are supposed to change their policies to somehow reconcile themselves to your term with europe come with that in and the euro be part of the club but thats not going to have been ok do you want to know the problem with mark wrong is that he says all the right things and then he behaves you know in the wrong way what do you how do you account for the well he accused ultra liberals and for all of them allies that led french to become your best but he is the ultra liberal some self you know no hes talking about pushing russia out of europe and it being a mistake he was the one who said our sporting choir not media he basically you know addressing the french journalist you said the following they these people they imitate your 4 months but theyre not you theyre not going to so this sort of new new racism when youre basically deny the credentials of your opponents you know you are not a journalist youre not a citizen so you can be destroyed but the problem is that again facts are against these western aid which is take you crean you know ok were stuck in 2014 the president whom they brought to power in 2014 by illegal means you know by actually an armed coup he lost the election and lost it in a humiliating really the media can movie and you know hes a go home and theres no leaving and you know absolutely disgraced aided by the people and they pretend not to notice its only putin who attacked the ukraine you know where next crimea in among the in the European Countries are probably 70 i mean is this a crisis of leadership. Well there is no real leadership i guess and i know its a lack of leadership but i think they also boxed himself in to some extent because the even much identifies itself as being this community of values soon as you link all your Foreign Policy issues towards values and some any dissent can be shamed. Piece meant or betraying you know the virtuous or the great values they hold so its so i guess from the perspective they have locks themselves in water what can you really do when you. When russia said well what happened in ukraine most effectively you know your its been expanding to our borders at some point would have to react and this was the reaction instead of addressing this issue is how we see europe set up where its our conflicting interests how can we find a compromise of National Interest essentially saying no no this was you know good versus bad and the way you know you have peace is if good defeats or it will go to 07 when we go back to alexander make your us in london last minute for this part of the program here i mean dont you think that brussels within the context of g 7 theyre afraid of a reproach more between the United States in russia because in the European Union find itself squeezed and even more irrelevant last 40 seconds to you alex absolutely that he sticks i think that hes very much a fear we saw that very evidently last year when it will cause in the run up to the grant summit in helsinki part of the reasons for reaching out to russia at the moment is because theyre afraid that if they dont the United States will go back to what glenn said i mean the fact that they have this value Foreign Policy that doesnt give them flexibility its exactly the point of stassi that you made at the start of the Program Starts this is when you cant do is stop you cant move and they can move well im really glad i chose 2 words agreed to they know to start their Program India in the 1st of the breakup. 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Ok glenn lets switch gears slightly here because we had during the g 7 we had president mccrone inviting the Iranian Foreign minister to be on the periphery which is interesting in itself it shows the difference that france and other European Countries in the g 7 collectively. Have opposed to the American AdministrationDonald Trumps maximum pressure what does that mean to you in what its mccrone trying to do it looks like its some kind of leadership bid since Everything Else hes done in his presidency has failed why should we assume that this might but this is an opening in going to talk about how the israelis and the saudis are reacting to it. I think it was a good move but i thought it was a friend for several reasons for one. I guess iran represents the most irrational component of trumps Foreign Policy the most hawkish and it doesnt really go anywhere so i guess finding a way for america. To bring them back a bit i think it would be a Good Opportunity but also because their appeals have committed to staying with the Nuclear Agreement if america can backtrack a bit perhaps you know the west could. Come together so i think it was it was a very good move and furthermore i guess the 3rd argument would be the. Everyones more or less recognizing that the campaign against iran now seems to be failing i mean syria the syrian war seems to be over yemen is taking a turning point now that the United Arab Emirates and the saudis are seem to be splitting up in the campaign against them and. Dont worry these really say that they make it involved in here again. This while it doesnt seem that the iranians can be intimidated in terms of you know seizing their tankers they retaliate against the british so essentially there is this huge push back from iran so this maximum pressure is failing so trying to find a way of sort of the interesting thing to me is that we considering the huge difference between the europeans of germany ministration on iran its the European Union is actually hoping the trumpet ministration find a way out of this of this policy that this dead end policy that it has is not effective and its not well thought out because what they dont have an option this is bad Foreign Policy when you never give yourself an option and it can only be one way in that way is failing go ahead you know we of course you know it was a challenge to the United States because the United States had important personal sanctions on just the foreign in a week or 2 weeks before the summit. That general trend western policy is this. You know and this is very typical for the United States but for the European Union also what kind of idea go to work out with the wash and portable that you sat with what does trump see in a week thats had like so the only problem with the Washington Post saw in this summit was that drum didnt insult you know this is unheard of in Human History but are required to be rude you know the. Media is absolutely required and then you know its kind of akin to tell us the government meeting with assad made her a hero so im going in actually talking to what does it lead to be your adversary me the good person that right this is you know ourselves toit you know its just awful and i cant even think about it apparently Human History you know soviet braswell not suppress was subservient you know they agreed with they would lead us but they didnt push for war you know do you mind being that they were leaders have conflict with us and that the e. U. Is also they also have the disease and the mccormick await it expressed itself in this confrontation between marco on and the brazilian president both so narrow you know when both sonora was impolite about macross wife why because most would the brazilian forest fire at the top of the g. 7 agent and brazil was not invited so what was the only answer that. I call the brazilians will get a new president who will be paid to her and i presume i guess the whole this whole program is about hubris here why does that why does the french president have to talk about whos going to be president of brazil its just you know they way they all find an audience us remove fortin you know executive. How when youre president in brazil havent you president given this is just unhinged lingo to alexander make yours in london this is interesting here giving the u. S. Some kind of out of me theres also talks about. Waiving away the waivers for under certain circumstances i mean its somehow moving forward but this gets to the kind of the the heart of the trump administrations policy towards iran i mean to what degree is it really hostile to its israeli partners and the lobby because we had an unprecedented poor countries israel striking in will. Rapid succession attacking iraq which even the pentagon came out and said we didnt have anything they do with that which of course and they said the pentagon made an interesting comment about paraphrasing here protecting iraqi democracy which of course is to kind of point point a finger at the israelis because they always say theyre the only democracy in the region here i mean its the to what degree is tribe really beholden taoiseach going into reelection to israel because hes done everything they wanted but the pentagon is saying whoa you get a step back here because it will violate the promise of the promise that trump has made of not going into another conflict is the hostage to tel aviv go ahead. Well this is a this is all very good because this is a very astute points because what of course is happening is that donald trump has done all the things that hes really. Their supporters in the United States wanted him to do with iran hes confident hes got himself into a confrontation with iran which as was correctly said previously is not succeeding the iranians are not buckling the walls in syria and yemen are going badly blockade of the persian gulf has not really worked i mean you know in the chinese are still buying or oil from iran and the iranians are still able to take seize because in retaliation to the seizure of their own tankers so he has got to try and find some way out of the situation but of course from Benjamin Netanyahu support to view that would be a catastrophe prosch more between the United States and iran is almost the worst possible nightmare as is good faith as hes facing the electorate ok and if you examine not not not i would stress because iran is a threat to israel but because iraq prosch more clearly undercut everything that that netanyahu has been saying up to write resolution of this war it interests then the then the the then iran as a physical country republic is the danger absolutely. So so the result is we have all we have all these attacks on every ball the to try and sort of keep this thing on the boil again ok well thats thats not a good Foreign Policy clinton now and again the think this is where so far the israelis and trump been able to stick together in this partnership and again this is one of his strongest lessons for the kid doesnt really help or was it one of the that one of the brothers of the crown prince going into the united. Also terrified of even a few words being passed between the United States and iran but where the do differ though is the charm for all those possibilities of starting a war with them or from china to iran he has so far has been the only u. S. President in quite some time not to start a new wars and this is what this is what its what he ran on this war and if you want to be reelected this is also what he needs to continue with so he was seeking victory through maximum pressure but without war the israelis well not so much the i dont think they would mind seeing the United States strike i dont think. That oh i dont think. So again this is where they really split to continue to push effectively having failed in the pressure so far the military campaign against the iranians or the step back in which. Israel was split on this issue so you know i think made a very good point you know just by all they did when i was a fan of trump hes deferred to the president i think in the last maybe 20 years who didnt start a war you know so far so far so far so far and its just amazing you know an acknowledgment in the New York Times i think its an acknowledgment of the war in yemen was a signature grown prince mohamed bin someone backed by the United States under president obama and of quote so i think one of the problems is that the unity you know the american Mainstream Press acknowledges that they started this war not only muhammad been so much also a bomber also the socalled Arab Coalition the war killed 8000 people all of the media has been talking about mr who has been working for the Washington Post what about 8000 people you know why isnt anyone do you mind doing basically responsibility for that you know because if theyre going to be led to deal with this shows still the tension that. He has with the deep state i mean we still have all of these. Characters around him John Bolton Mike pompei oh that are very very hard here and i dont see it giving i mean that there is we talk about the you know rising to maximum pressure on iran but theres actually maximum pressure going on is that military should ignore what i think that this is one of the positive consequences or the election of 2016 this infighting between the deep state cramp and the media you know that bad things happened that was happened when they all collide you know and also we target a certain country and attack it you know obviously didnt get the support of the media more goals you know what he is there because you know were going to go and i think there i think they began when i started out the program you know how you know this. So being so focused on trying blinds everyone to wise policy decisions and which is brings it up here the me the media just cant seem to get its line its party line straight because its always we acting on our own or on a microscopic level to every single thing the donald trump says and does and thats why not only is he erratic the media is equally erratic it may be just on steroids ok 40 seconds to go ahead alex in that absolutely the media or the media obsessed with the personality of dawns drum and find it very difficult that the funny impossible impossible to see beyond that personality so everything is reduced to a drama focused on one man now i think in some ways that helps him it helps him electorally but it doesnt help policy the formulation of policy very well and yes its true trump hasnt started any wars he hasnt successfully ended in the only that hes trying to pull out of syria yes and been able to use trying to pull out of afghanistan theres all this resistance but if were not beyond the personality of drawn from. Then you understand why he is struggling to end these walls we even though it is very much in the interests of the United States the close was b. And ok im going to and we started this program talking about greek words so were going to end this program as a greek tragedy and thats how we stand right now thats all the time we have many thanks my guest here in moscow and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here are key see you next time and remember cross talk rules. A global insurrection against banker occupation we started that really before occupy wall street before the revolution in cairo before obviously the in france or the protests and theyre all connected all these protests are connected theyre all connected to a rebellion against the out money and banks are all global and structural banker occupation. She stressed to make sure that the british and the bill of voted out that the world tour of. South asia was to you she then the face to face which. 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