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To element of innovation because the good the good in and creation of the culture plus technology should have been closed in a close region by region of. The driving force of the society that i believe this time was a medicine and the 2nd. For the new world order mystery or you know that it happened many times in history that something that once was a blessing suddenly becomes a curse everybody agrees that its certain point of time the consensus model that the e. U. Has served it well but now it takes china less time to set up a whole industry and for the European Union to come up with a coherent policy dont you think that this mechanism of making decisions by consensus in this day and age when everything changes by the minute is a bit outdated to say the least. Thing that is a bit about that you know but if you compete with china if you if it takes you years just to come up with a policy. That democracy is a very critical system. The least of the ones that allow. To find. Killing millions of people that has been the lesson that you. Because theres been a very difficult. And also be. Making decisions they dont have to be a drag. People. From the mental freedom to decide but. To decide to do. What has been promised by the. Simple and they know just the very beginning. To. A crucial democratic debate and they achieve nothing because they were. Even to. The European Union especially when it comes to technology and regulation of innovation i are saying that the europeans have essentially a choice between either having a democracy or have. A logical society. I think that this is a very good question and this is the main challenge of today because the main driver of the. 2 days. And is challenge. Is the. Reduction in the medium term of the workforce and the 2nd is what is called the human income. So there could be a summer following that perhaps tomorrow some will be delegated if. We became the executor and then much more in the west that we have to find a new way to monday in the human in command of this technology in. Your presidency specified 3 priorities Sustainable Development peace and culture and all of them strike me as something that europe does better than others its good at Sustainable Development better than many other parts of the world its good that culture is. Peace if you want if the rate. Is about moving forward why do you focus on things that you. Instead focus on something that its troubles. I think that the idea to look to the. Is 1st of all i dont see that today europe is the one that is. Better because for example china has not been a forefront of these ideas sustainability they were not to the situation of climate in beijing just a mission but today we understood it is the future and they have been investing a lot in this so europe has been the inventor of this concept of being the main event. That has been approved by the. Banding goes to. Use the can create. They created enormous business in producing these other country have understood that these called cities working. The. Others agenda of change. For finance for enterprise for me. Hows that going to drive one of the reasons why china is such a leader in all those areas that you mention is because it has streamlined Decision Making europe again cannot compete. I keep going to the same question can you deliver that win win without changing the way the decisions are made in the European Union and the way theyre implemented i think that. We can. Foster. Some. Mechanism and when weve seen that we can bypass in europe. To judge others because also someone a stall to the Center Moment it was the night of the. Market in china with the change the system of china and finally we discover the market economy that is winning the world is another called very efficient as well in raising standards for its people lifting millions out of poverty. In europe will never work and those in some part of the of the west europe when there were because of. The prize the individual to the collectivity in their work in chinese working from 1000 is a concept that seems the foundation of china but. Is there any middle ground i mean we are talking not a major infringements on human rights or putting people into concentration. Camps we are simply talking about streamlining policy on technical issues. To compete with china which is not going to sit around and. Look for example to the agreement to worldwide today you are. Of trade agreement to right the United States. Members they negotiate to. Be to delegate to negotiate to today you are. In front of. Want to negotiate with the European Union and the single county example the 2nd example europe has been. A unique case in the story. And. As the 2nd. Security by many and even the chinese. Just. Example of enormous success. Example for you because just a few days ago your own country signed a memorandum of understanding with china an official. At the time. Even agreed formally on the new policy. Looks like your own country doesnt have much patience. Someone can criticize this but you know. Very difficult. That those not being council between the european. National. Playing is no different from the case of. The big. China is a by law to make. Because there is definitely concern within the e. U. Circles that. Is striking out on its own here because its. Not the 1st country to sign that agreement but its the largest one of the most important within the e. U. Community. This is a challenge. I seem to. Go into theres open to this issue. Of these. Walls. And walls. And the european going to china. There was these delegations if i didnt it was china coming to europe to visit and we have to remember there was a lot of debate. At the time. But i mean that can be accused to be an anti utopian as you would know for sure that the u. S. Played you continue to play when there was in the past is is to open an agreement before opening the port of does to cheneys i seem to test to be managed into understood you know european framework and. Have to be criticised. For my government has done because im not so being put into a debate with the parliament that is not open to document such a debate and debate but in any case in the agreement the. Deal framework. Of the relation with china is very open these betty is very clear so is an ongoing debate i think that we have to find a way to cooperate we. Have to. Ended up getting one. Real body. They both bought on the same product one of them one night you should have been this one. Put them down i dont want that for any case i mean yes i knew she needed out of Community Yeah i am kind of whom you could see being dead and how to combat the night he made a move out of one of the men that young enough but otoh both were out of the. Skies or financial Survival Guide stacy lets learn us out fill out lets say im not so i guess. Im greased on face of the fight c wall street fraud thank you for. The story thats really. Slavery. You should. Put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president and. Want to. Have to want to be pros thats what before 3 of them or cant be good. Im interested always in the waters of my college. Friends should. Welcome back to worlds apart with a year at the president of the european economy and social committee. Mr sawyer i heard you say that those who oppose the european project often do that without offering anything concrete and yet if we look at the euro skeptics in your own country italy they seem to be very resolute about what they want and what they dont want they put. The supremacy on the National Legislation they want to strengthen the tally and culture the Italian National identity they dont want more immigration or more isnt that concrete enough i would look to do is. To leave without being part of the European Union would in that process through the measure prizes konami give Financial One of the last 30 years they were on the walls when there was a big financial speculation looked like in 92 again. And they gave the pounce and its a list of why exactly thanks to you if there was as you are this time that we doubt belonging to a perspective to go even more unification of more buy in the glacial to monetary its a little easier than that thats also a matter of debate because there are some who would tell you the. Italian gains of membership have been much smaller than among other Member States because if im not mistaken the average g. D. P. Growth in italy since 2001 was only a quarter of one percent compared to the 1. 7 e. U. Average can you really blame the italians for trying to. Turn it if for example cooperating with china. I think that when you speak about the. From the mental distinction to. The mental argument for part of the relation on talking about the current government who has the support and the monday from the population i mean. It depends. On the demand of people proposal. As of course diligence in the seat because they were voted in the other were the opposition. As many european because that is that is a big transition as i was telling there is a problem of the middle class of fell last. So that he is. Blaming it on globalization isnt that also part of the problem isnt the e. U. The Wage Structure the way its guided their way defines its priorities isnt that also part of the conversation blame for the rise. Across europe. But take. People off neo liberal Economic Perspective have been in power for quite some time everyone has to take responsibility in this very challenging time and of course there is a demand in our society due to the be good the normal that we are leaving and the fact that we just. Economic and financial crisis yes we. Are going much more coming back on the show at least 6 in the. But we came out that we dealt a measure of these 2 options in any case one issue when im saying that the many of them only say no and they yes. The magic example. They can buy. If. They say no for 3 they do not succeed. And you see that from one e r. Or the. Police and the. Right wing parties are still despite. In power in italy in hungary in austria in poland there. In france it is expected that there are going to consolidate our presence in. The may elections. What is it in the policies of the. Driving the support. I am asking you to be critical. Because you are ultimately in charge of. Analyzing those trends and you have to take a. Not only people also people you associate yourself with. The. Keep keeping back. Of the media or. Simply. For. The speeches they see that the finally. Is not working is not even supported. By the voters and this is mainly important describing that they have. To make. The. Most of the raising so much. As not being too. Because this. Has been in the deepest cries of for you because most of the class is the important part of europes own decision joint forces of the United States. Been a decision taken. Together. The consequences will be remembered is that fair when you are not partaking. Partaking in the decision but yet you all have to suffer the consequences is it fair. For the. Opening such of this year. And the Clear Strategy to build up. Any mandate from the international law. This is not to be the next Time International law can be a little more. To control and to prevent this. Been the case in the last 25 with many of the. Great many to be very resigned to international conflicts. That we need. To invest very clearly together. As a key to prevent the peace and also to. Measure. The. National. That theyre making the 3 skip let me since our time is running out i still want to ask a question about value because the European Union has long position. Al hughes based on to about a decade ago many Central Asian countries for example kazakhstan uzbekistan even russia to some extent wanted to deepen their corporations Economic Cooperation of in the European Union but they were told that you know we care a lot about values you have to build their democracies 1st then the Economic Cooperation will depend they all turn to china helping china rise helping themselves certainly do you think it was a smart decision putting values of Economic Opportunities because china clearly have seized on those Economic Opportunities something some would say at the expense of the European Union. The one cannot cannot leave that is exactly what top. Of the europe was accused to put too much conditionality to the aid that because the economy corp were to. Go there to say there is no countries being cut off the investment of the. First European Union members they most of them are saying that has not been a mistake because they need more money with conditionality they look china as an opportunity but today the. Import and the media. Not. But they want to be the new hat of corp or europe and they your puter will be savvy enough to understand that this new challenge to build up a new. I seem to mistake it to be very honest has been done in a certain point not only for the economic issue and values but for the International Geopolitics that has come back a very Strong International space between europe and russia. And europe and. Europe and the United States. In this case is much more the responsibility of United States i think if i can say theyd been leader she would decide. That europe is becoming the United States. Ask you one more question about values because its very interesting to me youve been very supportive of president microns call to build a new european. Would say that you have to kind of put your own house in order before embarking on such grandiose plans when it comes to values what do you make of. That wasnt in keeping with the values. The. The weather. In the middle class from my point of view big mistake of managing a measured decision about the taxation im specifically asking about street action because when you have people that are breaking out destroying everything on the other hand also have the use of explosive grenades and. Mains and kills people we are not seeing that even in authoritarian societies these. Are not seen in the. At least 10 fatalities and several 1000 injured. And people losing eyes people losing their limbs. You know seeing that. Theyve not to defend that its fake news i mean. You know. That those protesters have been have a hand that they can defend. Such a violent explosion. That they are very proud of the police is managing has not been the case in general. 20 years ago where the south thing is up and i want to just exactly do to praise the Italian Police force im asking about the French Police force because its a very important question when youre debating values whenever something some street action happens in other countries authoritarian countries in the european book theres always a very Harsh Criticism on any use of the police but here we are not hearing that forthright. As we have different sorts of information. Not. Because when there is of course there are also people who enjoy them. But theyre not so youre not a little concerned about how. That is that we have steel. You need to be as we had in the past for example you need or ready at the european level. To put in just a. Decision that we had over the rules and not the least but i think. That we have also to say that. That it should be overweight aid that to prevent. The Security Forces to work a little more difficult. Some lesson from the. Value. There its been a pleasure talking to you thank you very. I encourage our viewers to keep this conversation going on our social media pray just add hope to see you again same place same time here on worlds apart. Officer. Told to get up off the ground began to down. Heard them focus on the sounds of kind of fighting grown man like wrestling essentially. Twisted away from the officer. Of his group. The obvious or did they kind of lunge for the weapon once missed and then when it happened on tree swung as observations didnt hit him i never saw any contact between the 2 any kind of went back to where they were so the officers back here there try again 15 feet apart at this point and thats when the officer pulled out his gun and he did it on 3. 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