There is no hierarchy this proportionate force indiscriminate force and targeting of civilians are all considered equal war crimes along came Goldstone Goldstone had three soldiers speak immunities immunity number one is a very respected International Jurist munin the number two is not only jewish but hes not jewish just by fortune hes proudly jewish hes very self identified as a jew number three hes self identified this is zionist he doesnt run away from that label thats who i am he sits on the board of directors of the Hebrew University in jerusalem his daughter did what is called namely she went she went to israel for nationalistic reasons he is a bona fide zionist jewish respected jurist he produces a report and he crosses a red line it causes a red line he said the attacks were not in the sensually disproportionate and not essentially indiscriminate he said the purpose of operation cast lead was to punish humiliate and terrorize a civilian population in other words israel israels objective was not military it was not targeting combatants it was not targeting military sites its objective was the civilian population that was a horse of a totally different color and just very briefly and then suddenly here we can judge well he came under huge attack personal attack professional attack dredging up his past when he was a judge in south africa under the Apartheid Regime going for the moral juggler telling him he cant attend his grandsons bar mitzvah in south africa hes in south africa he was a south African Citizen and still is comes under tremendous attack and then on. First two thousand and eleven which is april fools day in the United States we all thought it was a prank opened up the newspaper Washington Post he recanted the whole report because he said that he had underestimated the number of hamas military casualties because previously everyone had said how is it that hamas had been untouched by the british back warplane as strikes well killing songs goldstone claim that he recanted because of what he called new information that since he had published the rip the report was published he came to new conclusions based on new information i went through all the new socalled new information there was no new information its very clear there was no new information i can even say ill admit i cant prove it but i talked to a very respected jurist in those goldstone very well very well he said theres no way he wrote that we cant in the Washington Post he knows his style this it was it was very murky calling from him because a large part of the book there goes on to the right were going to not let me get to the point after he recounted everybody got scared because in my opinion i can prove it again he recounted not because of the public pressure but because he was blackmailed the public pressure i go through the details doesnt make sense i think it was blackmail he said of course. They found dirt on him everybody even the most you why Amnesty International as well because after the goldstone everybody got scared what is what is israel gotten us because everybodys got a skeleton in their closet and even the most impeccable person has a relative who has a skeleton in their closet personal threats not work placements that i see over i think there were personal threats or fear of personal threat and so what happens after. Operation cast lead in two thousand and nine there were about three hundred human rights of works everybody was weighing in after operation protective edge in july august two thousand and fourteen which was many times worse in operation cast lead six thousand homes were destroyed during cast lead eighteen thousand during operation protective protective edge three hundred fifty children killed during task five hundred fifty children joined protective edge there were you know you could count on the fingers of two hands the number of human rights report Human Rights Watch put out a substantial reports after operation cast lead after operation protective edge once can be forgetting about what i mean you do say it in the book planet of international and so amnesty was the only one that actually weighed in after the operation protective five reports complete total disaster i want to just say because amnesty may be listening and i want to say i dont the book is not written with malice against amnesty i was so crush i was so devastated because i had depended on amnesty if you look at the first four chapters in operation cast lead a lot of its based on amnesty they put out a very good report of the twenty two days of the. Operation cast lead twenty to the death and destruction. Stuff on protective edge you wanted to see you were like suffocating what are you doing here ill give you one example. They put out a report its called families under the rubble and it describes israels targeting of homes during operation protective and it says well israel destroyed all these homes many civilians were killed and they said attacks were disproportionate the attacks were indiscriminate but then they say we think there was a hamas militant in this house and we think it was a hamas militant in that house and we think it was a hamas militant as if as if this was a legitimate military attack that had become excessive but then you read the breaking the silence the Israeli Soldiers who were in gaza and they describe what happened and what you see happened was. Im using their words they go into a neighborhood they roped off the neighborhood they bring in the dean bulldozers and now this is the words they use they bring in the bulldozer they say both those it goes back and forth back and forth demolish is one house to now about demolishing is another house then it says demolish is a neighborhood back and forth one before seven back and forth they say the list is if there were enough sand box. I dont know long comes amnesty and pretenses if there were big military targets there who gave us know when ill just stop you there were going to go to a break more from professor no one because time in thought you were going on the ground. Was similar to this but there were these skills because in most of the snowboarding one of them a. Beautiful yes good Good New Person they were going to push. You put him over them close them this material to move him i do you know but the deal my mother going to the star you know comes from. So from him you know will someday in cinemas a woman be the spawn of the p. B. S. Dog youll see yes its a little. Book of suits and you put yellow made some openings for your commitment shows you call bulls to the police when you should be busting the most of them so just to to go well what you could say yeah. That would usually beautiful the nation as we see would you do you see just as i was telling me im sympathetic to that you know playful to me it was a little bit something. Seemed wrong but well just dont call. Me that you get to shape out just a constant thats ok and in detroit equals betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. Now for. Certain i want to do things that show everybody is doing so to be very clear lets go away go to. Management. And they on they they when they up and they have a. Good need to feel the. Sun yeah im them what do you how to become a song like nobody loves local do you want to. Come to mind if. I want to be in the book and theres you stop lets talk more next. Hey everybody im stephen bob Taft Hollywood guy you know suspect every proud american first of all im just started washing and r. V. Im going to suggest this is my buddy max famous financial guru well hes a little bit different im out of the Abraham Lincoln or no no no one knows up with all the drama happening in our country and im shooting the road have fun meet everyday americans. And hopefully start to bridge the gap this is the Great American people. Welcome back were still here with professor Norman Finkelstein can i just take us back to the eightys the first intifada now that you are now approaching the. Quote you quote total ignoring. This is when britain labor and tory governments were refunding them that they were trying shooting to kill shooting doing just beatings mass arrests torture trials gentians sanctions of course and yet they still keep on fighting a child is now in the news i had tamimi. Hopes you think schill of getting a fair trial and the only democracy in the middle east theres no hope of her getting a fair trial if you look at their record in fact the that sell them the Israeli Human Rights Organization for the occupied territories it has stopped. Coordinating and cooperating with the Israeli Military trials because its just farces so were not going to even bother anymore to go through the motions because all it does is provide a. Smokescreen for israel that theres a Legal Process going on when there isnt so we can leave aside that its a done deal shes not getting a fair trial but we have to look out the potential there is a potential there the palestinians have basically tried three strategies they have tried to armed resistance thats gaza the fact of the matter is speaking honestly they want they want into combat with israel three times cast lead protective and most called pillar of the fence in the number two thousand and twelve each time the goal was the same to end the siege then work it didnt work they wanted to end that brutal illegal immoral siege it didnt work the armed resistance has not produced a result the objective that they sought we all can agree its now kind of not the discussion. Anymore diplomacy doesnt work its a waste of time to go to fancy hotels they just talk and doesnt change and eventually america. Seems to back that point about hell still go to still go to the meetings because he likes the five star hotels but there his head as the reason but that is the reason im not hes a complete imbecile which is a serious possibility and he doesnt even realize that nothing is happening and joy he would say for the positive i write stories like. This. And then there is the third possibility which is mass nonviolent resistance and i do believe that there has potential in our live action a lot of us had to go after your book. And some people may wonder because obviously there was a one when we went to hit israel and one against israel was always has will how will it what is no violence that youre talking about how does it fit in with gun the and with with military well lets be clear i am very emphatic in the book the palestinians have the right to arm resistance they have the right to fire their socalled rockets at israel i do not waver i am not equal on that point i said at the end i will say i say they have the legal right look at what the law says i go through the law very carefully they have the right to resist with armed force the Israeli Occupation and the israeli denial of their right to selfdetermination but there is a big hassle that separates what you legally have the right to do and whats politically prudent that is to say what works and i say in the book that although they have the legal right and i will not for a moment retreat in. Howard this from that point i say politically it has not produced the results that were your announced objective namely to end the siege on the other hand i do believe that mass nonviolent resistance has the possibility lets take a simple example the image that. Illuminated the palestinian oppression during the first intifada was the little children with the stones the children of the stones as it was called and International Public opinion accepted the right of children to throw stones in the face of this is really killing machine they had the right to throw stones against israel the occupiers now imagine use your imagination for a moment the israelis were rage they were furious they were driven mad by this little girl i had them in me who smacks an israeli soldier how dare you smack and mention how dare the enter mention the subhuman smack and over mention and its really soldier and there are all these serious debates on israeli t. V. Whether the soldier was showing im or over the show the soldier was showing our this by not reacting to the girl imagine if the palestinians adopted the strategy every woman should snap a soldier smack a soldier today just like we have the meat to movement let them have a me too i snap the soldiers israelis would go mad they would go mad and has an opportunity a possibility now thats according to ghandi by the way one of the things he says is if a woman is being raped and the woman to resist the rapist she smacks him she scratches him she pummels him this is in my view thats not violence thats a person trying to summon the moral courage to die with dignity he says i dont call that violence. He said when you have such a vast disproportion in power between the zero presser and the zero press well the oppressed engages in some kinds of what you might call symbolic resistance or he said in my book thats not violence so he said in one nine hundred thirty nine the german vera mocked the army the aloof to invade poland poland comes out with a few tanks a few artillery pieces to resist the german army and air force gandhi said thats not violence either now it is exactly with the palestinians a few token rockets or a young woman smacking a soldier whos been occupying humiliating degrading destroying the lives of people for fifty years five decades and she doesnt have the right to smack this person who invades her home kills her cousin you know you have that right even not leave aside the international or even the apostle of nonviolence Mahatma Gandhi said you have that right i have no doubt none whatsoever if he were alive today and he was as you might know a strong proponent of what he called dr an arab right in palestine it wasnt a palestinian rights arab rights in palestine and he was very emphatic in one nine hundred thirty six as you know there was the arab uprising against the British Occupation of palestine and gandhi was asked about it and he said look. I wish they would adopt the tactic of nonviolence i wish but he said according to the canons ca and awareness according to the canons of right and wrong they have the right to use armed force in other words according to current legality and morality are people under occupation have the right he says i wish they would choose my strategy but they arent under a legal obligation to not resist the people of gaza they are under a legal obligation to just lay down and die of blockade a blockade which is at the point of making the place on livable unlivable the whole International Community knows it israel itself says it and theyre supposed to lay down and die they dont have the right to resist now that makes no sense to me so im not going to fold them im going to say i dont think its a wise or prudent strategy i think if you took the one million children of gaza. You put them at the head is the release of his stars efile after he was named in a foreign spy dossier as a contact for a check agent you cant get a much longer headline jack mate obviously you know its just go i should because i was the first ever journalist in the study had quarters in the i didnt you know when they broke through and told them to keep the files safe so that we could find out things like meet them safe maybe you were trying to conceal the secrets of jeremy call it is your take on this story its rubbish its complete rubbish Jeremy Corbyn as there have been afraid of his sympathy towards the left he was always a peacenik in his past days before being an even medium diplomat i mean sir oh of come to get the Boris Johnson story which we dont have here whos he me toyo this is the other point Boris Johnsons friend friend has been exposed as a spy too but that doesnt count because hes conservative in the russian he doesnt doesnt count its just a little corbin because he loves the russians well maybe more so as you can go to defender of father than day on friday to moscow and commemorate all the millions of fought against the nazis unlike was present to the celebration of the bafta this is that i want to get now enough ok anyway lets go to a bank seventy three percent owned by the u. K. Taxpayer yes indeed going well the herald reports r. B. S. Never challenged infamous let customer memo says conduct report lots of secret documents have come out suggesting a certain lack of respect for customers including one suggesting that customers should be allowed to hang and another one saying that many of the tiresome but remain numerous have slightly embarrassing concern i was the head of the financial conduct of already not releasing this until the Treasury Committee in parliament ordered them to what exactly is going on with regulations want to hear why dont you ask them because a lot of people are asking that same question this seems to be in the Public Interest because it suggests a certain attitude towards the customers who are bearing the brunt of the collapse of the british and frankly west and. In king industry they havent really come forward yet there will be apologies there will be red faces but it does give an insight into how grateful the banks were for us bailing them out maybe if we took the twenty seven percent back as well the bank wouldnt be letting customers hang and i presume that wasnt so literally lets now go to a tweet from a very senior figure in the turkish government yes this is a complicated story option colleen has tweeted hes a government spokesman into injured his you know how we can translate in turkey this being a chance they didnt says the news reports of people id why p. T. Ill explain that in a minute agreement with the regime on afrin or apparently for propaganda purposes however it does not mean there are not some secret and dirty bargains going on whatever happens zayton dollie military action will continue taking place and it will reach its goal complicated tweeners ataturks of the truck thats right whats really underlying this is a web of intrigue which suggests that americas been fighting terror with terror theres another group called the p. K. K. Which is regarded as a terrorist organization but american money american arms five thousand truckloads of weapons of some have been poured into this mass presumably to fight assad but actually that really hasnt made much of an impact except to give the terrorists arms thats why its so complex its not that complex russia syria the United States working with the allies enough for and against britain and turkey no thats completely not the case nato civil war well its nato civil war but its not that civil war within a civil war because its not all clear why america is essentially backing both sides turkey is claiming that theyre the ones who are sorting out the problem to some extent it looks like theyre right but im telling you its exactly the biased well i think it should be on the side of washington and moscow finally united i cant believe you just said its against london now but anyway i meant ok self at the same time thank you thats it for the show. I could see that they would be off the coauthor of britains twenty fifty modern slavery act the bishop of dolby alice to redfern if the idea of modern slavery itself in a society now driven to use food banks divides and rules the poor till then he got it by social media if you dont have the fifteen years in the day of the death of a marxist historian of the english revolution Christopher Hill author of the world turned upside down. Stein is Getting International recognition with the help of israel at least in the world of zoos the middle fiddlestick misted to do it looking like a movie this isnt my cup of tea is going up local study hall meeting to game john no doubt a tough job but they should be the only palestinians who gets the most help from its jerusalem counterparts i dont think theres some of those who in the world under the oak vision didnt know only could do this. And the earth is all of us not just the heart of this lady of the muscle that you had i not going to compete in the doesnt seem to do more commitments also dont put this off. Hey everybody im Stephen Baldwin task hollywood guy the suspect every proud american first of all im just george bush and r. V. s to say this is my buddy max famous financial guru and well just a little bit different im not. Going to try not to run your windows up with all the drama happening in our country im shooting the road have some fun meet every day americans. And hopefully start to bridge the gap this is the Great American people. Now for just. Over thirty i want to do things that show the phrase really really be very clear. Away your food. And they have. Given you need to feel the. Sun what do you how much. Do you. Measure. A lot of. The northern syrian city of afrin is bombarded by the Turkish Military as i encourage intensifies its operation against the kurdish fighters in the region. The polls for the Palestinian Leader of the Un Security Council as he calls for the United States to show commitment to israel palestine Peace Process before walking out of the road leaving washingtons amboy addressing an empty chair. And russian figure skaters excel at the Winter Olympics in south korea breaking two World Records in just fifteen minutes