A kurdish they claim that this kurdish Independence Group they killed a lot of kurds in turkey and also turks as well you know. Turkey is as a state it has no problem with kurdish citizens in turkey they live peacefully and more democratically down in syria iraq and iran if we come to see the initiate issue in the beginning turkey would United States and reach european allies in order to support you know freedom against bashar assad regime but after after two thousand and. Thirteen ok. You know the major left turkey ok let me let me jump in youre going to be in before we go to the break here i mean but it is same time you know outside powers twice a proxy civil war because this is from the outside ok i mean. Bringing democracy to syria is the last thing this is all been about ok its been arming jihad is to overthrow a legitimate government that it had done before we go to the break yeah i mean i agree i agree with what you say and i just wanted to comment on what sammy was saying there is friction between between the u. S. And turkey and i would say that predates the coup attempt actually in fact really it goes back to the downing of the russian plane i would read that it was seen obviously correctly as a low point in russian turkish relations but i see that really as a last dance let me jump in here to tell. You to go to a short break say are you going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on turkey and syria stay with r. T. They are imposing their sanctions we just start developing our domestic capabilities topping our internal resources remember how during the previous u. S. Administration they said that the russian economy will be in shambles pointing to Falling Oil Prices and sanctions and all that stuff. I mean shambles no quite the opposite. The best out of georgia. The concepts of pain to perform how to actually prepare myself to die. In the home of. Your. This country was. Really good so dont sanction. So well see if you think. What traditionally was any good with us here was just that yes get more clear to me she asked me to look at that you can issue a couple so kind of point to b s k i w. P everybody im stephen ball task hollywood guy usual suspects a very proud american first of all im just george bush and r. V. To suggest this is my buddy max famous financial guru and were just a little bit different i honest to god or not you know when those up with all the drama happening in our country im shooting the road have some fun meet everyday americans. And hopefully start to bridge the gap this is the Great American people. Welcome back across like we are all Things Considered im peter remind you were discussing turkey and syria. Ok let me go back to in oxford i hate going to hard breaks like that but it happens ok so im going to go let you finish your point with the proviso here im really glad we went to this point in talking about u. S. Turkey relations because in the Foreign Policy blobs fear in washington the great swamp of america i mean theres plenty of people that are writing off turkey completely say even we dont need them in nato i mean there and this is in the National Security council this is in. The state Department Defense department i mean there is a raging debate going on in the Intelligence Community as well is how important they want because this is what it gets down to its whos calling whos bluff and i hate that ok because everybodys got arms ok what is going on in turkey u. S. Relations this is whats really key here dan please keep going. Here so after the downing of the russian jet turkey was hoping that this would force somehow the u. S. To actually come good on what they had seen as the u. S. Promises to make to make this regime change happen turkey a huge cost to itself had allowed itself to be the spearhead of this western imperial regime change policy in syria and they seem to be doing so with very little actual help from from from the west in doing so so we really wanted to force the u. S. To put the cards on the table that help wasnt forthcoming so at that point i thought ok theyre not serious let were going to have to basically do Something Else some kind of deal or think again and its interesting and no coincidence i think the months before the coup attempt was when theres the famous phone call between putin another one and and one began to make noises about perhaps outside has some sort of longer future than. Relations began to improve that was when the coup attempt happened so the us is very worried it is bluffing that it can do without turkey and nato is very worried about losing and losing turkey turkey is very angry at us or have been used and abused for its regime change project but i think turkey is perhaps walking into fall into a trap here walked into a trap because the same time as i dont think the us is particularly that troubled by whats happening in syria right now if one is happy to see turkish turkey we can because it was an operation all of branch i think it will be a better name because turkey is really beating itself here is weakening itself as the same time as weakening. The kurds and its really once again helping to facilitate u. S. Strategy no benefit to us so you know its sammy you know i talk about that because you know i keep reading the Foreign Policy blah blah you know that turkey has to choose between moscow and washington i dont i dont buy that at all as a matter of fact because nato has no useful value whatsoever turkey is coming into its own now it may be walking into a trap but its coming into its own as a regional player dealing with other countries and we we had this consolation when we have baghdad damascus beirut. All of them are on the same page it doesnt happen very often in and turkey is getting into the parlay here i mean this is this is something that i think is really interesting not i but i worry about turkey because i really did like you know the no problems Foreign Policy well it has a lot of problems right now but its this kind of a major paradigm shift sami in the region with whats going on with turkey. Its possible i think it all depends on whether the United States is going to dig its heels and. Other areas where there are u. S. Troops patrolling the streets alongside the i. P. G. Forces now this is where the main conflict is between turkey and the United States i do not think turkey will retreat on the question green and the United States is. In a sense in a lose lose situation i slightly different from down there that the United States is losing in iraq it is losing in syria and they are in a fix because they either send more troops which they are out of loath to do but because they would like to rely on proxy forces often out of their debacles in afghanistan and iraq they started using proxy forces whether in libya syria iraq and so on and in syria they found a golden opportunity with about forty thousand. Fighters whom the general of the special forces of the United States general Raymond Thomas raymond. Thomas himself called them a proxy force yeah but if turkey is going to go all out to prevent the emergence of such a kurdish enclave backed by the United States then you are looking seriously contradiction between the United States and territory and i think ultimately its the United States which will retreat on the one otherwise they will lose their yeah but they tend to take everybody down with them before they leave let me go to you i mean how important is all of this to the turkish president because hes invested a lot in syria and hes gotten very little in return i think dan is spot on. He was egged on by the u. S. And the u. S. Basically folded and he what is the political review repercussions for the president everyone if he doesnt get what he wants go ahead actually years and now you know after a year we have a very important elections in turkey a presidency and this is the first time in two thousand and nineteen the before that i think to turkey try to finish or wrap up the syrian issue with some games you know in the beginning we started with the United States and the european allies and then they left us with russia and iran in the region now after two thousand and fifteen turkey started a new city on his own sometimes with the help of russia and iran in syria and he surely we have basically three you know iraq hates schildt and then lip and then this Olive Branch Operations these are really important operations in for turkey and i think the turkish people is supporting is kind of operations then after that the turn will come to member i think this is the man beach is the most crucial area between turkey and United States because an american. Army is there if turkey goes further to membership maybe it might be a problem for turkey this is i think most crucial think up to now but for us all a Branch Operation i think no problem with United States you know its best not to interfere this operation but if turkey goes further to man bitch it will be problematic for the region and maybe a turkey and thats that will be had to had a. Area. Up to. President has support in turkey you know thats why i keep saying who is bluffing whom here again also the again the the one can surmise and indeed if you look at the long. Bad blood between iran and the United States as one of the reasons why the United States wants to keep a footprint there it really is quite amazingly doing the bidding of riyadh in tel aviv all the time because there is now absolutely no strategic interest of the United States or the anyone in the European Union about syria and i think that. Its always misguided the more they listen to riyadh in detail of the the opposite happens irans influence continues to expand when are they going to learn go ahead dan here thats true iran has in some ways benefited from the disasters wreaked on the middle east by the u. S. In the last few decades but i would completely disagree that europe and the u. S. Have no interest in containing iran or destroying syria the u. S. Certainly does and the west in general and especially britain and the usa do are very concerned as i said the outset to destroy any independent or potentially independent force in the global south of. Israel and saudi arabia the. Bulldogs if you like of western power in the middle east the watchdogs keeping that area basically under the domination of the United States and britain so. I dont i dont buy into this idea of saying oh the u. S. Is doing the bidding of tel aviv in. The part of the same the same program of maintaining middle east under western domination maintaining the Global Oil Production and the levels that they want to or the price they want to. Sold in the currency that they won and the dollar and so on i dont see these ok. But ok but for this and id let me go to sammy i think you have bring a very interesting point stan. And i dont necessarily disagree with them. But sammy you know going back to what i said earlier if we could just start and end it and its not arbitrary two thousand and three and go all the way up to the present every single Strategic Initiative the United States and its allies initiated in the middle east have failed and theres been only blowback ok i mean this ridiculous policy that tillerson announced that anyone the sends aid to syria will face sanctions i mean that that is you know what they want to do is they just want to keep and im now im good i would agree with dan here is this to keep every Single Player weak and broken ok and and thats going to backfire is well ok because the region is going to stay not necessarily outside players they dont they dont always state they usually leave go ahead sami i think the main reason for it they have a fairly right to point to that failure is that there is enormous opposition to their presence in the region if we talk about the middle east and all the way to libya and so on there is popular opposition to their presence and there is this fundamental contradiction between the United States aims of trying to control the region for its own interests and the interests of the peoples of the region and there is no way this contradiction can be dissolved unless the United States withdraws from the area admits defeat and gets out this is unlikely to happen so therefore we have this continuous conflict of us imperialism trying to dominate the region and the peoples of the region insisting on their independence and they are mad against iran because iran regardless of what you what we think of its political system is a very indeed. And then country from us. This very hate and i get it down there and how do they all know that they are to question has been the sami that thats irans greatest sin its sovereignty gentlemen weve run out of time many thanks to my guests in london oxford and in this stan bowl and thanks to our viewers for watching us here darcy see you next time and remember. Years ago i traveled across the United States exploring americas deadly love affair with the gun bad guy trying to get to one of my family members he would have better a lot better and i think its fair and hearty when i buy my babies says my book was published in the year two thousand more than half a million americans have been killed by phones in the u. S. I mean how does the team yes i did this this is a middle school we go through drills and we put ourselves in real scenarios it was interesting to see who actually got hit. 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To children that are trained to kill these of a direct agenda agenda is to kill as many people as possible victims of crimes as a world others. As a world of care towards the children. And the public and professional backlash as a controversial criminal case against a doctor whose patient. Outcry across russia. Is. Eight oclock here in moscow and youre watching all t. International live with mean a day or two day welcome to the program one of americas Biggest Police corruption scandals is unraveling in the city of baltimore officers from an elite police unit tasked with reducing crime seem to have actually been adding to it theyre on trial accused of turning the law on its head. They came at me like again with something i remember one of the officer serino looked like someone who needed to be rocked everybodys life was destroyed because of this socalled Gun Trace Task force is made up of plain clothes officers and has been trying to tackle the citys increasing murder rate however the unit has been dissolved and officers arrested with charges against eight of them ranging from Drug Trafficking to planting fake evidence. Arties a car now reports on what triggered this case and how the police units crimes were exposed. Well it all started with an investigation into Drug Trafficking in new jersey then as the case unraveled federal authorities found out that the Baltimore Police department was also involved mostly its elite gun traced Task Force Unit months of recordings recovered from a device planted in a Police Cruiser reveal that officers were involved in Drug Trafficking robbery falsifying reports and planting fake evidence in one case a high speed car chase resulted in a crash which the officers tried to cover up one of the indicted x. Detectives involved actually broke down in tears in court it was a really bad accident none of us stopped to render aid to see if anyone was hurt we were foolish although i was doing so much wrong it got to a certain point where too much was too much altogether six officers have already pleaded guilty and two are still being tried but there are indications theres more to the story than just one Rogue Police UnitCourt Records show that the city paid over half a Million Dollars to settle claims of misconduct and falsifying reports involving the very same officers and dating back as far as twenty fourteen so why did they all fortys choose to sweep it all under the rug. You see this those offices of very well known industries for door what are they doing and this isnt. Where it came up its been its probably been plenty of complaints you can go an extra help because youre afraid that this particular might just do some so you might pencil and comma will be see them come we go to opposite direction if we can and if we cant we deal with this circumstance this has been corruption for a long time you know just because this is one as in a way as though they decide to come forward or you know they got caught for what they done is stuff that particular but at the same time as not going to stop the corruption has to be done to stop the corruption from these criminals are cops and the cops are criminals then theres the unsolved murder of detective shawn souter that took place in. November last year souter wasnt part of the countrys taskforce but worked with some of the officers were now under indictment and the day before he was set to testify in the corruption probe he was shot in the head with his own weapon while on duty and another unfortunate twist which some might find suspicious a patrol car transporting the dying officer to an asp it all got into an accident theres no suspect in the murder so far and no eyewitnesses except one unnamed partner and when the Police Commissioner tried to redirect the investigation to the f. B. I. The agency refused saying that the case had nothing to do with the corruption probe im growing increasingly uncomfortable that my home aside the directives do not know all of the facts known to the f. B. I. Or the u. S. Attorneys office that good reveal to us assist in furthering this Murder Investigation in the wake of the scandal Baltimore Police have launched an overhaul including a new commissioner vowing to rein in city violence but investigators still seem to have a very complicated plot to unravel samir khan r. T. Reporting from baltimore. Germanys Domestic Intelligence chief is warning that children of Islamic State fighters in the country are living time bombs and said they could be recruited for terror plots in germany they were confronted early with Islamic State ideology learned to fight and were in some cases forced to participate in the abuse of prisoners reve in the killing of prisoners we have to consider that these children could be living time bombs there is a danger that these children come back brainwashed with a mission to carry out attacks that domestic into germany should review laws restricting surveillance of mine is under the age of fourteen in recent years the country has faced several cases when minors were planning terror attacks for example back in twenty sixteen a twelve year old boy tried but failed to blow up a Christmas Market in the west of the country now berlin has even detected a whole network of eisel headhunters searching for and recruiting children. Islamic state uses headhunters who scour the internet for children that can be approached and tries to radicalize these children were recruit these children for terrorist attacks. There are also concerns that children back from syria and iraq could be targets for further radicalization according to Government Data about three hundred people who left germany to join i still have now returned to the country. Their turn of i saw children is also a concern shared by a top counterterrorism officer in the u. K. Hes warning that ignoring the risks they pose now could create problems in the future some terror groups are training children to commit atrocities we need to not just understand the risk the mother poses but the risk that any child poses as well look at them on a keys brachis basis and they may be arrested. We discussed this with Stephen Morris from the English Democrats Party and one hundred shafique the chief executive of the ramattan foundation we always have this like little cuddly thing of children where they can do no wrong because bear in mind these are children that are trained to kill they are not just good in a mock in a street bin antisocial these are of a direct agenda and that agenda is to kill as many people as possible so we do have to clamp down on this our Security Services and police are doing a tremendous amount of work to a dentist five who those children now these are children they didnt make the choice. To go and live in syria it was their parents and we should not punish the children for the actions of the crimes of the parents im quite clear in terms of human rights universal declaration of human rights that we should welcome them back and help them rebuild their lives where we can help them but we should help them over there we dont have to bring them here what youve got you got to do want people to bring them over here let them walk free while the bin assess well no. The walking free they are a threat but we dont live in the law of the jungle they are british citizens are we as a government as a society and as a country have a duty of care towards them children in the u. K. Anybody below the age of eighteen actually classed as a child a fourteen fifteen sixteen year old or seventeen year old can just go around the streets with a knife. Just like anybody else you know so they are as big a threat is anybody you know you cannot just say just because they were under the age of eighteen this can go into the age of forty that they are no longer a threat because they are thin themselves are victims of isis and their crimes have been returned to do you k. Im hoping that theyll get psychological help for the trauma that theyve seen and the terrorism and oppression that theyve witnessed whilst living in syria if it turns out that they are involved in extremism and they are involved into. Prism then we need to do as much work as possible to d. V. R. To cause damage to protect and protect themselves from such an evil ideology. Russias medical community has been outraged by a criminal case brought against a moscow hematologist shes accused of medical malpractise that allegedly led to a patients death and many doctors and legal analysts claim the case is significantly floored arties has the details it was dark to them if you had a nose job to come to this clinic every day and work to save peoples lives she was the mastermind behind this brand new unit which was meant to become the most advanced center for bone marrow transplants in moscow the plan was to open it in january but instead a court ruled that she must go to jail this is mr arenas office she has been gone for two weeks already we miss her she had a lot of plans and there are simons for the next week on her desk it all goes back to a tragedy that happened almost five years ago she was treating a patient with leukemia and that required a morning by obscene a routine procedure for a doctor we suited up it all went fine and the patient went off to work by evening he was suffering severe stomach pains and an ambulance took him to a private hospital then he underwent surgery and in two days passed away if a patient dies he is or her relatives always want to get justice when someones life is taken due to somebody else i think that some punishment must follow but what caused the persons death the biopsy the surgery or Something Else it took the investigators and the court for years to determine that for an hour the verb