The latest news for me. Hello and welcome to cross talk were all Things Considered im Peter Lavelle a cursory glance at the media environment could easily give you the impression that the vast majority of journalists studied psychology at university so many are convinced donald trump is not mentally fit to be president or the same journalist suffering from trump derangement syndrome. Crosstalk in the media im joined by my guest Steve Malzberg in new york he is a conservative political commentator in bloomington indiana kevin howley hes a professor of media studies at devalue no versity and author of drones media discourse and the pup. Imagination i love that title and in West Palm Beach we cross to dr jean aloud and she is a psychology expert and host of america trends with dr gina ok crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want i always appreciate it kevin let me go to you first here is the media suffering from trumped arrangement syndrome because i did go through the things that weve had to deal with i mean i actually made up a list here you know from push the hat marches to the comi stuff to the steel dossier and its contents we have the motor investigation we have a shady lawyer don don jr being just a shady one then we have these Long Distance experts determining the Mental Health of the president of the United States and we can go and theres a lot more to the media goes bonkers so are the media bonkers go ahead kevin. Nothing new under the sun in many respects weve seen this before we can go back to any number of instances think about the clinton impeachment and how that became a National Obsession over the o. J. Simpson trial what were seeing here i think is an application and intensification of a tendency thats been part of the media sort of the court of the d. N. A. Of the Corporate Media for many years now ok steve but i do think it is different because theyre trying to unseat this president without any due cause and you know you know im a lay person will talk to jean in a second she has more expertise in this here but when i see people going on and c. N. N. An embassy in d. C. Saying the president of states is insane and should be reviewed reviewed removed from office thats going too far i dont think anybody said bill clinton was insane ok he had a problem with his ip or not his Mental Health go ahead steve. No i mean this to me this is unprecedented its a continuation of bush derangement syndrome noticed it skips democratic president s they hated bush they said all kinds of disrespectful things that go. But not to this extent i mean ive talked to people like you know the Nixon White House who said they hated nixon but theyve never seen anything like this what the media is doing now is more dangerous than anything they have done because theyre telling the world you know theyre so worried about Donald Trumps tweets theyre telling the world every single day and of course its not true that our president is mentally incapacitated unable to perform his duties and that were very very weak at this point and that we have a lot of enemies out there so they think theyre playing this little game to get rid of the president and throwing journalism aside but theyre actually doing severe horror to our country and i would say to journalism itself and well talk about that a little bit later gene let me go to uni West Palm Beach i mean youre youre a professional mental Mental Health i mean how do you react to seeing journalists on the on the cable stations talking about the health level of the president of the United States must be quite shocking for you because you are an expert. Was interesting because i dont think that they would diagnose the president you know without ever even talking to him in most cases or having a chance to speak with him clinically and so it really is it really does say a lot more honestly about their own obsession with overturning an American Election i mean thats what this really comes down to they really just want to make this whole thing go away theyre not happy with the election result so theyll try everything they can to negate it and it says a lot more about their mental steadiness if you will than it does his if you look at the fact that he has functioned so amazingly well even despite all of the constant barrage of hate coming at him from the media and from the establishment and even some on his own side it says that he is a pretty mentally fit guy to be able to withstand all that and still be so productive you know kevin i was looking at some of the excerpts of michael wolfs book and i dont. I pay for it we can you explain it on online for free they did more good there and i looked through some of the excerpts there and you know i ive this is trash ok i cant believe the lot of the things that hes writing theres no cooperation there the reason why i mention it and you know who cares about the National Enquirer ok but again its polled on to the networks and they and the cable stations confirming their prejudice their blind hatred and it hurts the country it hurts journalism and i think jena just brought up a really good point i mean ive never seen anyone take so much pressure you know day in and day out and hes still going on i mean i find that actually quite remarkable not but im not saying i agree with everything he says or tweets i mean exasperated by a lot by a lot of its like a lot of other people go ahead kevin. Yeah couple things i think we have to again take a little Historical Perspective here of Partisan Press of the eighteen eighteen hundreds which is you know. Of in ways that are very reminiscent of what were seeing today so again i dont think that it helps to suggest that this is somehow an anomaly i think this has historical precedent particularly when you have a very Partisan Press whether it was back in the days of Abraham Lincoln or in contemporary america as far as trump taking that pressure quite well i think that is definitely debatable ok it strikes me and im not alone on this right it strikes me that there are many instances where he seems. Particularly. You know rattled by any sort of criticism and tweets storms are you know frankly embarrassing and so you have the president ited states lashing out at critics in ways that. Undermines the legitimacy of the presidency now im not a psychologist so im not going to i dont know if you had sure at all i dont think thats true at all. Well again here we need to isolate you you may not like go ahead jump if youve ever had weve never had a. I think charles anyway the thats ok look the fact of the matter is this president took the press to task from day one he told it like it is he was the only person who could beat Hillary Clinton because he was the only person who would stand up there and scold the press and scold us or tractors and call them out for what they are thats what the people who voted for and love about him the fact that he tweets out these things theres nothing wrong with that it doesnt diminish the presidency its who we is hes not a politician and people have to get used to that they never will and thats too darn bad hes going to i always wish and youre right i absolutely agree with that and thats that i think is part of the problem i mean he is in many ways a tabloid creature yet but it sure but at the same time its ok lead to ok now we have to be back now now we have just a creature. That we have yes thats true now we have symmetry because hes an anomalous president and i would say we have an Anomalous Media gina jump in you know all of these mistakes all of these a bad reporting that weve seen and never never a back story or a you know split nation you know the last one with don jr and the emails you know the dates were wrong c. N. N. Did receive the a. B. C. There were maybe never did and they were and they held accountable for the case so if i can just jump in here gene is going to be a journalist this is this is a president who has decreased black unemployment to an all time low this is the president who has black housing more black families have houses than ever before certainly during the Obama Presidency who was supposed to be the socalled black president because he likes to chop people up and divide of that way this president is the president of all people he said he wants all people to be as rich as him and yet where is the heralding of that in the media he is that these declare january Human Trafficking month is slavery not an issue we can all agree on where is that. The media i mean you can see the bias written all over them and for anyone who wants to argue that his tweets are somehow not president ial thats how he communicates his message because he has no other way since the press wont do it and we know that hes the counter puncher and you know what americans laid out there were so tired of having a president that you know theyre fanned out for us to the rest of the world and put America First this is not only this is not only not diminishing the presidency this is the president Going Forward steve you want to jump in there before we go to the break go ahead peter that they. Just theyre putting this vote wolf character out there who admits half my book is inaccurate when people like ed klein and conservative authors cant buy a ticket to any of the shows when they write a book critical of hillary or obama theyre ignore their mocked as as you know jokes and inaccurate but what this well guy hes all over the place the double standard is just horrific ok kevin you know i think we all saw the segment with Steven Miller and jake jake tapper on c. N. N. I mean you know we have Steven Miller hes invited on his program to talk about talk about what it was going on in camp david with the g. O. P. Officials the weekend before he was asked to come on and talk policy i watched the tape and jake tapper did not want to talk about policy geno does jeana just mention facts ok where is c. N. N. When talking about facts that was an ambush he was very rude jake tapper was very unprofessional go ahead thats the bias that im talking about kevin well again i think its i think what youre seeing is a lot of corporate channels are chasing this story particularly the russia gate story you know whether or not thats a legitimate investigation not that remains to be seen what we need to keep in mind is that there are some substantive questions about this presidency. I think in terms of his twitter feed alone i think it would be behoove the Corporate Media to ignore that for a time in fact id like to see twitter suspend his account because hes breaking user agreement oh my gosh but lets get back to the lets go back here to me i think race only well i dont think were were all chasing the same ok no wow could have a conversation but were all chasing the same yes its scandalous i asked for a conversation right now lets tone it down right and to liberate a little bit and because what he what one size our economy is the same even talking to people is doing really well we do recognize that in life are you directing that to the president the United States or the liberal media ok you want to censor the hat in your are going to go longer a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on the media stay with our team. 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Ok let me go back to West Palm Beach where its probably the warmest on this program geno you know i consider myself a midwestern i grew up in my childhood in colorado so i know that the heartland you know and you know we can talk about all of the intricacies of the campaign who did it they who did it did it right who did it wrong how much money was paid but you know it was really the deplorable statement and i think that really brought home to the voters you know who they are the voters in this in the country and where they stand in the eyes of the media because i still contend that the media elected donald trump because they took they have contempt for the public the media has absolute contempt for the public and donald trump stood up for them i mean again im not going to carry water for the president as its a very complicated man and hes done and said things that i really dont like ok but the fact of the matter is he the way that the media treated him actually helped him and they and the media continues to help him because of the way theyre bad their bad treatment of him in the end and in the heartland they feel it every single day go ahead gina. Yeah that the trump russia Conspiracy Theory that they just cannot seem to let go of it is is helping him every single day that thats still in the news because it is going to come out mark my words i said it right here and i promise you it is going to come out that the only collusion that took place was on the democrats side we will see this and all of the people who have been beating this drum so relentlessly for so long are going to look like fools that they are and furthermore its going to expose them the more that they talk about him being insane or anything other than policy as you said earlier the more they talk about how he shouldnt tweet or how hes not mentally fit or any of those things the more it exposes them their lack of Mental Fitness their collusion and their own problems within their party the bottom line is they dont have policy issues to run on they dont have candidates unless its oprah and even she has yet to determine as anything viable and so it just it really they have themselves in a really bad place and their despair is what is showing you know kevin you know one one one couldnt you know call the president the United States deplorable i mean now we know that there are high officials at the f. B. I. Calling the president of the United States a dip of food in saying you know what thats all fine thats all your opinion and i think people have a right to say that here but you know in the media hold itself to a higher bar because its not getting them anywhere theyre the people have very little regard and trust in the news right now c. N. N. Goes from one blunder to another and brushes it off like move on we dont take any responsibility so i wonder who has to be held up to a higher bar i mean all these sophisticated people on the coasts are better than donald trump they dont show it on a daily basis go ahead ken. Well again i think we need to put this in a larger perspective. Journalist make mistakes oftentimes usually they they they own up to it c. N. N. C. B. S. N. B. C. Made. A mistake last week and they werent held they werent held accountable and they werent holding themselves accountable thats thats a problem i agree one hundred percent on that score. But to suggest that the news media should take an adversarial position to people in positions of power and authority is to give way to authoritarianism and this is not the way we need to conduct our what i want you to do have how come i dont hold a press thats not afraid to ask tough questions and to hold people hostage and how are countable ok i dont know that. They have like this i mean are well suited to do that ok i mean this gets down to it ill dress this is how i let me hang on here let me see even just this to both of you steve and you know here i mean what happened to the idea of a loyal opposition because this the media has abandoned that ok asking hard questions is fine oh for eight years old barack obama was never asked one hard question u. K. Not one he was given a complete free pass atelier you know and i kevin is right i mean this should be adversarial but the they treat him is the enemy ok that is very different than the how they treated like nixon or even bush go ahead steve. Look they said nothing to hillary about they about the women for years and years and years that accuse bill clinton and then how hillary help treat them and that never would have been an issue today if hillary had won youre absolutely right look barack obama stood by and watched putin take crimea he stood by and he watched putin go into syria he stood by and watched you know your rainy and one go to putin he stood by and he did nothing. Nearly as much as he could have done when it came to Cyber Security with russia and he said on the hot mike tell vladimir ill have more leeway after the election yet its trout who is the night its trump who is in bed with putin thats because we dont have an adversarial media when it comes to democrats we just plain dont because they have democrats fact theyre all democrats are there and we go to jeanne i mean most people working with mueller are democrats too and gave the Democratic Candidates ok go ahead gina. Yes youre absolutely right and thats why thats why this president is such a threat because he has come in and said hes going to clean house and as the elite who have enjoyed their very luxurious cushy lifestyles their access to the white house right the bureaucrats extend beyond the media as part of those in choying that whole cushy lifestyle and so thats when the when the president came along and said he was going to drain the swamp you couldnt say more paralyzing frightening words to the elite establishment in washington d. C. Then those and that goes all the way to both coasts to the Banking Industry to you know to wear that to the real money in the United States and thats why as you mentioned early in the conversation they want to deal in fact if they could just make the Electoral College go away its of the only votes that count where those in the Financial Centers on the coasts and just overlook the heartland altogether they would do it in a heartbeat because that would mean they could get away with the corruption that this president is cleaning up. The eternal college is really interesting i did say to our viewers here if they get rid of the Electoral College then we have to get rid of california washington and oregon ok and thatll create a little bit of a bounce there or else itll be it will be democrat forever ok just these little archipelagos on the east and west coast will that dominate the countrys politics or you know kevin you know what does the media have to do to get its credibility back because as weve pointed out on this program so many gaffes. Or is it just a Business Model interest built in right now i mean you write these trashy salacious stories and you get hits and eyeballs and you know thats your true model i mean you know that theres theres nothing wrong with making money for your shareholders but i thought journalism was how to hire cars like informing people go ahead. Well want to take on a i think we need to start with trying to avoid taking on very difficult complex nuanced questions and doing it in such a simple minded fashion you know and i think thats large part of whats going on you know. To take just one example the whole notion of trump coming in to drain the swamp if you look at the mans cabinet if you look at his policies at the look at what hes done over the past year clearly this is a textbook example of crony capitalism theres no such thing as draining the swamp hes what hes done is hes putting people people in positions of power to dismantle the government to dismantle regulations and to invite you know take the tax package that just passed this is a giant giveaway this has very little to do with the middle class and certainly nothing to do with working class to get taxpayers to give away this the gift to the moneyed class ok what do you say that if. They only have not over why i didnt have a hair gina go ahead jump in go ahead. Yeah i. Dont even make sense to most people normal deplorable types like me out there when he says that hes eliminated regulations that is the limit needing government that is quintessentially draining the swamp when he says that hes eliminated whole vast parts of departments making government smaller is bringing it closer to the people that was the intention of the founders of our constitution and the president is restoring that in record time with more than eighty accomplishments in his first year and repealing more than eleven of obamas rule by even act and he is eliminating this one its systematic and you know you can say that his his cabinet is comprised of i mean you can label people have you want but the the actions speak a lot louder than the words my friend ok well you know steve i mean youre there in the hackers are speaking speaking quite loudly in terms of whether words whether its environmental policy or whether its. Tax policy. Any suggestion that this is nothing more than a handout to the well to do is Wishful Thinking ok well were getting out were going into the weeds here ok i want to talk about the media so we have two more minutes you know steve i mean the problem is is that the media is so damn elitist in the end and they cannot they cannot see outside of their ideological bubble they simply cant comprehend how other people live ok and you know donald trump like him or hate him he traveled the country back and forth back and forth even went up to the blue the blue wall no wonder it fell ok he saw how the American People live this is one of the things that i i admire him for actually getting his hands dirty and actually talking to people in that the democrats dont have a message they dont theyre not connected with the people this one man is i dont know about the g. O. P. One minute left go ahead steve. Peter the media doesnt care theyre in their elitist bubble and their purpose is to ruin the presidency of donald trump in the in the meantime its to get the congress back in the hands of the democrats and the first thing theyll do is impeach the president that is there a whole purpose when you have the s. P. N. Anchors calling the president f. And stupid and when you have. On two separate occasions saying over and over the same separate shows the president s a b. S. Artist but he says the work and nothing happens and theres many examples of that throughout the media they have a goal they dont care about Middle America they dont care about anything their management is on board their own board room the presidency of donald trump at all costs to twenty seconds go ahead i chose to support this president when i saw him stay after a very early on in the campaign while all the other fifteen republican candidates ducked out after they talked to the alphabet soup media i watched this president stay for two hours and answer questions from every little citizen Journalist Blogger that how much he cares about the people that havent had a voice in america including the low level media. Weve totally run out of time many thanks to my guests in new york bloomington and in West Palm Beach and thanks to our viewers for watching us here dont you see you next on and remember crosstalk. 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