At this point and that we have a lot of enemies out there so they think theyre playing this little game to get rid of the president and throwing journalism aside but theyre actually doing severe harm to our country and i would say to journalism itself and well talk about that a little bit later gina let me go to uni West Palm Beach i mean youre youre a professional Mental Mental Health i mean how do you react to seeing journalists on the on the cable stations talking about the Mental Health level of the president of the United States must be quite shocking for you because you are an expert whats interesting because i dont think that they would diagnose the president you know without ever even talking to him in most cases or having a chance to speak with him clinically and so it really is it really does say a lot more honestly about their own obsession with overturning an American Election i mean thats what this really comes down to they really just want to. To make this whole thing go away theyre not happy with the election result so theyll try everything they can to negate it and it says a lot more about their mental steadiness if you will and it does his if you look at the fact that he has functioned so amazingly well even despite all of the constant barrage of hate coming at him from the media and from the establishment and even some on his own side it says that he is a pretty mentally fit guy to be able to withstand all that and still be so productive you know kevin i was looking at some of the exit observe michael wolfs book and i dont want to pay for it we can you explain it on online for free that they did more good there and i looked through some of the excerpts there and you know this is just trash ok i cant believe the lot of the things that hes writing theres no cooperation there the reason why i mention it and you know who cares about the National Enquirer ok but again its polled on to the networks in the in the cable stations confirming their prejudice their blind hatred and it hurts the country it hurts journalism and i think gina just brought up a really good point i mean ive never seen anyone take so much pressure you know day in and day out and hes still going on i mean i find that actually quite remarkable not but im not saying i agree with everything he says or tweets i mean exasperated by a lot by a lot of its like a lot of other people go ahead. You couple things i think we have to take a little Historical Perspective here of Partisan Press of the eighteen eighteen hundreds which is you know. In ways that are very reminiscent of what were seeing today so again i dont think that it helps to suggest that this is somehow an anomaly i think this has historical precedent particularly when you have a very Partisan Press whether it was back in the days of Abraham Lincoln or in contemporary america as far as taking the pressure quite well i think that is definitely the big. Abel. Strikes me and im not alone on this right it strikes me that there are many instances where he seems. Particularly. You know rattled by any sort of criticism and tweet storms are you know frankly embarrassing and so you have the president ited states lashing out at critics in ways that. Undermines the legitimacy of the presidency now im not a psychologist so im not going to go to the exact sure what all but i dont think thats true at all. Im well again here we need to i think you may not like. Go ahead good job if you ever had weve never had a. I think charles anyway the thats ok look the fact of the matter is this president took the press to task from day one he told it like it is he was the only person who could beat Hillary Clinton because he was the only person who would stand up there and scold the press and scold us or tractors and call them out for what they are thats what the people who voted for and love about him the fact that he tweets out these things theres nothing wrong with that it doesnt diminish the presidency its who he is hes not a politician and people have to get used to that they never will and thats too darn bad hes going to i always wish and youre right i absolutely agree with that and thats that i think is part of the problem i mean he is in many ways a tabloid creature yeah but at the same time its ok lead to ok now we have to be back now we have just a creature. That we have yes thats true now we have symmetry because hes an anomalous president and i would say we have an Anomalous Media gina jump in you know all of these mistakes all of these a bad reporting that weve seen and never never a back story or a you know split nation you know the last one with don jr and the emails you know the dates were wrong c. N. N. Did receive or if they were good they were very good and they were and they held accountable for ok so so if i can just jump in here gene are going to be a journalist this is this is the president who has decreased black unemployment to an all time low this is the president who has black housing more black families have houses than ever before certainly during the Obama Presidency who was supposed to be the socalled black president because he likes to chop people up and divide of that way this president is the president of all people he said he wants all people to be as rich as him and yet where is the heralding of that in the media he is that these declare january Human Trafficking month is slavery not an issue we can all agree on where is that. Media i mean you can see the bias written all over them and for anyone who wants to argue that his tweets are somehow not president ial thats how he communicates his message because he has no other way since the press wont do it and we know that is the counterpuncher and you know what americans laid out here we are so tired of having a president that you know their hand up for us to the rest of the world and put America First this is not only this is not only not diminishing the presidency this is the president Going Forward steve do you want to jump in there before we go to the break peter that they. Just theyre putting this vote wolf character out there who admits half my book is inaccurate when people like ed klein and conservative authors cant buy a ticket to any of the shows where they write a book critical of hillary or obama their ignore their mocked as as you know jokes and inaccurate but but this well guy hes all over the place the double standard is just horrific ok kevin you know i think we all saw the segment with Steven Miller and jake jake tapper on c. N. N. I mean you know we have Steven Miller hes invited on his program to talk about talk about what it was going on in camp david with the g. O. P. Officials the weekend before he was asked to come on and talk policy i watched the tape and jake tapper did not want to talk about policy gina does gina just mention facts where is c. N. N. When talking about facts that was an ambush he was very rude jake tapper was very unprofessional go ahead thats the bias that im talking about. Well again i think its i think what youre seeing is a lot of corporate channels are chasing this story particularly the russia gate story you know whether or not thats a legitimate investigation not that remains to be seen what we need to keep in mind is that there are some substantive questions about this presidency. I think in terms of his twitter feed alone i think it would be behoove Corporate Media to ignore that for a time in fact id like to see twitter suspend his account because hes breaking user agreement oh my gosh but lets get back to the lets go back here to me i think race only now i dont think were were all chasing the same ok no wow could have a conversation but were all chasing the same yes its scandalous i asked for a conversation right now lets tone it down and to liberate a little bit because what he what one size our economy is the same even talking truth was doing really well we didnt recognize in life are you directing that to the president the United States or the liberal media ok when i think that the hat in your are going to go along a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on the media stay with our team. Had a great education a good job and a family that loved me. I never had to warn me about how i would be and when i would speak. Im facing christmas alone out on the streets of london. Well you look to be. A cut above the bully like you. You know the slogan was still give up food for the homeless. You dont really feel like the big you know. And then. The guy just came over to be so mean to you this book you. Join me every thursday on the alec simon show and ill be speaking to guest of the world of Politics School this list im showbusiness ill see that. What politicians do something to. Put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president or injury. Or somehow want to be rich. To going to be press this is what the four three in the morning cant be good that im interested always in the waters about how. This should. You know when you dont. Get a court to do. What to be. Left alone they. Said. You know. That. If you speak french. You. Think. Welcome back to cross like were all Things Considered im peter you were discussing trump and the media. Ok let me go back to West Palm Beach where its probably the warmest on this program geno you know i consider myself a midwestern i grew up in my childhood in colorado so i know that the heartland you know and you know we can talk about all of the intricacies of the campaign who did the thing who did who did it right who did it wrong how much money was paid but you know it was really the deplorable statement and i think that really brought home to the voters you know who they are the voters in this in the country and where they stand in the eyes of the media because i still contend that the media elected donald trump because they took they have contempt for the public the media has absolute contempt for the public and and donald trump stood up for them i mean again im not going to carry water for the president and say its a very calm. Book a good man and hes done and said things that i really dont like ok but the fact of the matter is he the way the media treated him actually helped him and i in the media continue to help him because of the way theyre bad their bad treatment of him in the end and in the heartland they feel it every single day go ahead gina. Yeah that the trump russia Conspiracy Theory that they just cannot seem to let go of it is is helping him every single day that thats still in the news because it is going to come out mark my words i said it right here and i promise you it is going to come out that the only collusion that took place was on the democrats side we will see this and all of the people who have been beating this drum so relentlessly for so long are going to look like fools that they are and furthermore its going to expose them the more that they talk about him being insane or anything other than policy as you said earlier the more they talk about how he shouldnt tweet or how hes not mentally fit or any of those things the more it exposes them their lack of Mental Fitness their collusion and their own problems within their party the bottom line is they dont have policy issues to run on they dont have candidates unless its oprah and even she has yet to determine as anything viable and so it just it really they have themselves in a really bad place and their despair is what is showing you know it kevin you know one one one couldnt you know call the president the United States deplorable i mean now we know that there are high officials at the f. B. I. Calling the president of the United States a drip of food in saying you know what thats all fine thats all your opinion and i think people have a right to say that here but you know in the media hold itself to a higher bar because its not getting them anywhere theyre the people have very little regard and trust in the news right now c. N. N. Goes from one blunder to another and brushes it off. Move on they dont take any responsibility so i wonder who has to be held up to a higher bar i mean all these sophisticated people on the coasts are better than donald trump they dont show it on a daily basis go ahead ken. Well again i think we need to put this in a larger perspective. Journalist make mistakes oftentimes usually they they they own up to it c. N. N. C. B. S. N. B. C. Made. A mistake last week and they werent held they werent held accountable and they werent holding themselves accountable thats thats a problem i agree one hundred percent on that score. But to suggest that the news media should take an adversarial position to people in positions of power and authority is to give way to authoritarianism and this is not the way we need to conduct our what i want you to do have. A press thats not afraid to ask tough questions and to hold people hostage and our counsel i dont know that. They have like their firemen are well suited to do that ok i mean this gets down to it ill just its just how i let me hang on here let me see even just this to both of you stephen do you know here i mean what happened to the idea of a loyal opposition because this the media has abandoned that ok asking hard questions is fine over eight years old barack obama was never asked one hard question u. K. Not one he was given a complete free pass atelier you know and i kevin is right i mean this should be adversarial but the they treat him is the enemy ok that is very different than the how they treated like nixon or even bush go ahead steve. But they said nothing to hillary about they about the women for years and years and years that accuse bill clinton and then how hillary help treat them and that never would have been an issue today if hillary had won youre absolutely right look barack obama stood by and watched putin take crimea he stood by and he watched putin go into syria he stood by and watched you know your rainy and one go to putin he stood by and he did nothing. Nearly as much as he could have done when it came to Cyber Security with russia and he said on the hot mike tell vladimir ill have more leeway after the election yet its trabant who is the putin ike its trump who is in bed with putin thats because we dont have an adversarial media when it comes to democrats we just plain dont because they have democrats fact theyre all democrats are there and we go to jeanne i mean most people working with mueller are democrats too and gave the Democratic Candidates ok go ahead gina. Yes youre absolutely right and thats why thats why this president is such a threat because he has come in and said hes going to clean house and as the elite who have enjoyed their very luxurious cushy lifestyles their access to the white house right the bureaucrats extend beyond the media as part of those enjoying that whole cushy lifestyle and so thats when the when the president came along and said he was going to drain the swamp you couldnt say more paralyzing frightening words to the elite establishment in washington d. C. Then those and that goes all the way to both coasts to the Banking Industry to you know to wear that to the real money in the United States and thats why as you mentioned early in the conversation they want to deal in fact if they could just make the Electoral College go away for the only votes that count where those in the Financial Centers on the coasts and just overlook the heartland altogether they would do it in a heartbeat because that would mean they could get away with the corruption that this president is cleaning up. The eternal college is really interesting i did say to our viewers here if they get rid of the Electoral College then we have to get rid of california washington and oregon ok and thatll create a little bit of a bounce there or else itll be it will be democrat forever ok just these little archipelagos on the east and west coast will that dominate the countrys politics you know kevin you know with what does the media have to do to get its credibility back because as weve pointed out on this program so many gaffes. Or is it just a Business Model interest built in right now i mean you write these trashy salacious stories and you get hits and eyeballs and you know thats your true model i mean you know that theres theres nothing wrong with making money for your shareholders but i thought journalism was how to hire cars like informing people go ahead. Well want to take on a i think we need to start with trying to avoid taking on very difficult complex nuanced questions and do it in such a simple minded fashion you know and i think thats a large part of whats going on you know to take just one example the whole notion of trump coming in to drain the swamp if you look at the mans cabinet if you look at his policies and the look at what hes done over the past year clearly this is a textbook example of crony capitalism theres no such thing as draining the swamp hes what hes done is hes putting people people in positions of power to dismantle the government to dismantle regulations and to invite you know take the tax package that just passed this is a giant giveaway this has very little to do with the middle class and certainly nothing to do with working class to the taxpayers give away this gift to the moneyed class ok what do you say that if. They only have not only why i didnt attack their jeana go ahead jump in go ahead. Yeah i do his words dont even make sense to most people normal deplorable types like me out there when he says that hes eliminated regulations that is the limit needing government that is quintessentially draining the swamp when he says that he has a limited hole vast parts of departments making government smaller is bringing it closer to the people that was the intention of the founders of our constitution and the president is restoring that in record time with more than eighty accomplishments in his first year and repealing more than eleven of obamas rule by even act and he is eliminating this one its systematic and you know you can say that his in his cabinet is comprised of i mean you can label people have you want but the the actions speak a lot louder than the words my friend ok well you know steve i mean youre an actor this is speaking speaking quite loudly in terms of whether words whether its environmental policy or whether its. Tax policy. Any suggestion that this is nothing more than a handout to the well to do is Wishful Thinking ok well were getting out were going into the weeds here ok i want to talk about the media so we have two more minutes still do you know steve i mean the problem is is that the media is so damn elitist in the end and they cannot they cannot see outside of their ideological bubble they simply cant comprehend how other people live ok and you know donald trump like him or hate him he traveled the country back and forth back and forth even went up to the blue the blue wall no wonder it fell ok he saw how the American People live this is one of the things that i i admire him for actually getting his hands dirty and actually talking to people in that the democrats dont have a message there they dont theyre not connected with the people this one man is i dont know about the g. O. P. One minute left go ahead steve. Yeah peter the media doesnt care theyre in their elitist bubble and their purpose is to ruin the presidency of donald trump and them in the meantime its to get the congress back in the hands of the democrats and the first thing theyll do is impeach the president that is there a whole purpose when you have the s. P. N. Anchors calling the president if and stupid and when you have. On two separate occasions saying over and over the same separate shows the president s a b. S. Artist but he says the work and nothing happens and theres many examples of that throughout the media they have a goal they dont care about Middle America they dont care about anything their management is on board theyre on board ruin the presidency of donald trump at all costs to twenty seconds go ahead i chose to support this president when i saw him stay after a very early on in the campaign while all the other fifteen republican candidates ducked out after they talked to the alphabet soup media i watched this president stay for two hours and answer questions from every little citizen Journalist Blogger that how much he cares about the people that havent had a voice in america including the low level media. Weve totally run out of time many thanks to my guests in new york bloomington and in West Palm Beach and thanks to our viewers for watching us here in r. G. C. In exxon and remember crosstalk. 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