Want more National Sovereignty we want less European Union my party wants to leave the European Union we believe that we can only be sovereign and the judge of our own front door when it comes to immigration if we outside the European Union and become a strong sovereign nation again so as you will see our party is called the party for freedom and you talk about freedom all the time but at the same time i mean youre suggesting closing mosques elo or netherlands and making islam an attractive how does this go along with freedom that youre promoting. Well thats a very good question actually i believe that and freedom incompatible look so all the countries in the world where islam is the dominant today you see a total lack of freedom a lack of Civil Society a lack of rule of law and the let lack of both individual and collective rights so i believe that the more we fight the islam as a share of a free societies the more preserve our freedom so im fighting for freedom and i called my body the body for freedom because i want our families our children our grandchildren also in fifty years to be free citizens and if we would become one day more as that make it would go on the worst when it comes to freedom so what about the freedom of practicing your religion i mean you had about your children and your grandchildren you never know one of them may marry a muslim turned into a muslim you may have muslim great grandchildren what about their freedom of practicing their religion its a choice right well you know. Yes i believe and this is why i believe its not incompatible with our constitution which as you write for the internet as a freedom of religion i believe that islam is not so much a religion but more than ideology and ideology that wants to talk to you terry an ideology that wants to dominate not only your whole persons life but also a whole society and one of the examples i always giffen i explain people why its small ideology than a religion is that if you were willing to leave islam the battle of the is dead you are not free as in for instance christianity or judaism of buddhism to leave and this is a token of an ideology of an even though the theory an ideology so i believe that we should have no freedom of we have freedom of religion even in the constitution but if we see islam not so much as a religion but as a door to the terror an ideology that once again does not want to assimilate into society but wants to dominate it goes against the freedom of women of the press of homosexuals of christians of jews and this is something once again if you want a society that is free you have to have less islam. All right im not advocate of islam im christian myself but i think what you are talking about is a very narrow following in islam and that would be called maybe one hobbes or extreme muslims but i dont believe that applies to majority of the muslim people that i know and that live around the world but that is your opinion ok and the same thing could be said about the christian religion and we should go really deep into the bible it goes against gays and it goes against womens rights and all of that could be said about christian religion as well its really about how you read religion but anyway ok so youve been saying that there is no such thing as moderate islam but at the same time i. I know that in conference in italy in september you said that many individual muslims are moderates so are this moderate less truly centering on moderate islam who are those moderate muslims can you give me examples. Well listen i make a distinction as i always have done between the ideology and the people and indeed there is no moderate islam there is no european this lama that kind of nonsense theres only one islam and that is the islam of the book the koran of the life of one helmet and that is the islam that we know and that unfortunately cannot and will never be changed is not extreme extreme extreme islam is a pretty unison that means exactly the same on the other hand you have the people and i do believe in moderate people and indeed i do acknowledge that there are many muslims around the world who are moderate people but unfortunately and this is one of the differences where you compare i should just there with christians or jews today we see that societies where muslims are in a large amount of maybe even the majority that there is a total lack of freedom and democracy when were talking about the more liberal or kind of arab countries like for instance egypt the obvious or the more darfur like iran or the wahhabi indeed the sunni Muslim Country and in my own country the netherlands today we saw at researchers that we have in holland almost one million muslims and the kind of leftish liberal institution as the university of amsterdam made a survey and approved at eleven percent of the dutch muslims which is more than one hundred thousand people which is twice the amount of the dutch army they stated in holland that the willing to use violence in holland for their beliefs and forty islam and we dont see that with any other religion and this is what we are importing in the west. Today we dont see. The next all over europe today almost on a monthly or sometimes weekly basis committed by people in the name of christianity of judaism and indeed not every muslim is a terrorist but unfortunately most of the dare risk in europe today are muslims and we can be politically correct and ignore it but i think is a lot wiser accomplished this year will us of course i mean they slum this Terror Threat to europe is very real no one argues with that but dont you think that measures like closing mosque or tough cracking down on muslims that would work actually the other way around increase the risk of terror attacks rather than reduce it exactly the opposite so we have to stand up and we dont have to call any muslim a terrorist that would be ridiculous i would even reject reject such a suggestion that we should not import more islam on the contrary we should dislike mice our society and the koran once again is a book that has more anti semitism in it than for instance might come from out of his love and we should see it for what it is not all the people are bad people on the contrary but the ideology is a dangerous ideology and i traveled when i was still a free man when i was not protected by the secret police about the Diplomatic Police for twenty four seven when i had no friends to us from all the organizations all my have i travel throughout the middle east and i went to almost every islamic country and i met so many friendly and hospitable people but i saw that the entrance on islam every almost every arab and islamic country was devastating people were not free there was terror or evil within the islamic world let alone in the countries and both in islam so we should do one thing define. 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Now were back with hertz will durst leader of the dutch party for freedom discussing major trends and todays here opinion politics mr wilders like you said your opinions on this have landed you on the al qaeda hit list i know youre surrounded by security twenty four seven you live in a safe house i mean does all of this as elation get your head politician has to be closer as a nation to people can imagine that being detached from everyday reality isnt that good for it. Listen. Last elections my party out of thirteen buddies and bottom and one on one third of our votes and we became the Second Biggest Party in the hollands we only exist for ten years it never happened in holland before that the relatively new party became the Second Biggest Party in parliament so we are not and the we are maybe at best even more than any other party look at the outcome of the democratic elections we are at that just and indeed its not easy and i fight for the freedom of my people i fight for the freedom of the west as i see it and in the process i lost my personal freedom and let me tell you if i would have been addressing criticizing greece the entity or judaism which i am not to be clear but if i would have done that i would not have been on the head list i would not have lost my personal Freedom People would not have tried to murder me so this is exactly my point im not the only one in the world if you look at a lot of people on the whole organization zz or journalist or politicians who criticize islam they get into the same trouble and exactly my point that moderation is far to reach for in islam i say well theres a refugee problem spiralling out of control has god here of questioning one of its greatest achievements open borders do you say alicia gonzo has to go for a movement of people across europe where that. Yeah thats the thats the only league way to get rid of the shans im the only way this that we have to stop the immigration from middle east africa and if you think thats what happened to the Immigration Crisis that we saw in the last few years with all the socalled Asylum Seekers that came to our boats im of the worlds that that was bad i would say you havent seen anything yet you know if you look at the figures from the United Nations you will see that there will be a cross rumbling of the inhabitants of africa today africa has one billion and habitants and in the end of this century thats will grow from one billion to four billion and service proves that one third of those people would want to emigrate the most probably to the church about the north of africa to europe so if we dont wake up if we dont stop sharing and if we dont become the center and become masters again of our own house if we dont again be in charge of our from the ball we will cease to exist im not exaggerating that if you look at the numbers that the end of the day we are facing today an extra stench of problem worse than any economical problem we have ever faced an existential problem whether we will exist and not at the end of this century if we dont staats by defining our borders and controlling and deciding ourselves who we let into our house and who should live our lives as any normal citizens also have people looking at job program to date day out the sighting in our own homes and all of rush hour anywhere else in the world who to let in the house and who when people are guest to leave the house we are not doing that in most of the European Countries today we only know the bolasie of open borders and at the end of the day it will be our house anymore knowing closing the shop. And zone actually destroyed the European Union well the for me that would not be a bad thing because im very much against the European Union im a lot in favor of europe i believe that we should Work Together with other countries in the continent of europe where we have a common interest for instance in the internal markets to fight terrorism to have economical dies i would really want to cooperate but we dont need an institution like the European Union where i am mostly an elected people like the all the European Commission i was deciding for the hour the mockery democracies what to do and if you talk about immigration today European Union brussels is in charge of our immigration rules and the National Capitals the National Governments not anymore they have transferred most of the immigration policies to brussels so we are not in charge of our own front door anymore so it would be a good thing instead of a bad thing if it would erode not you wrote but the institution called the European Union has said that hysterical or worse a phobia rains and europe and in the netherlands why is that i mean does europe has announced problems without this being from top to. Well you know i see a terrible thing happening in most of the European Countries on the one hand they criticize the American Administration they make fun of mr trump and loves defending miss the from all the things he does but there is only criticism ninety nine percent of the politicians criticized one of the superpowers in the world the United States of america on the other hand the same politicians criticize another superpower in the world called the Russian Federation and i think that is very unwise that is fair even wise from a geopolitical point of view that is fair even wise from an economical but in the few because i believe we need both we need to have a friendship with the Russian Federation and we need to have a twenty let that friendship as you rope as the European Countries with the United States of america and indeed today you see that almost its almost a trend in europe to criticize the Russian Federation to make them responsible for almost everything that goes wrong and i think thats very bad or not only we cannot afford it but often its also not substantial ice then of course i also have criticism towards both russia and the United States that we have and its in our own interest and we have a lot in common as well with russia to become more allies than enemies and you said that if you want to create an alternative a phobia what is it going to be like i mean how do you make this alternative appealing to the political elites. Well you know first also among allies you have to be able to criticize each other us as friends when its needed and of course when it comes for instance at the cooperation with the whole process of this terrible terrorist they get back because my dutch fellow countrymen when it comes to shutting down of the plane i made seventeen a lot of things there was a lot of criticism all asking for cooperation also does russia but we also have so much in common with russia on other aspects we have the same kind of culture we are christians a little big pot of russian is Russian Orthodox christian we have the same problems often when it comes to the future of immigration we both had that experience when it comes to terrorism also in russia whether its a moscow or what happened in chechnya and the boss we had in a similar way the same kind of experience so what i believe is that we should not only criticize but we should cooperate and im very happy to have been invited by the russian and best of the in the Russian Parliament the duma to visit russia in the beginning of next year to meet people from your government from the russian government from the Russian Parliament and also perhaps to have critical remarks against one another but also to get a better understanding russia is not our enemy i believe that russia is an ally and we should invest in better relations so the media has been calling it a debt donald trump i dont know if you like that comparison or not what do you make of it failure many things in common with american president. I have also aspects i have respect for mr rahman all the aspects i dont have respect for what he does i still believe that if i would have been in america which i am not i would have rather i would also have voted for mr trump and not for mrs clinton but hey im not an american im a dutchman and im responsible for the by the seat of my country no today in opposition and so im not to be compared with what i believe and what the strength is of both missed the trauma but also miss the putin is that they all believe that the interest of down own country goes first mr putin goes for russia first for the first interest of the russian people a missile trim in his own way does that for the United States of america and i wish i wish in your rope in my own country the netherlands we had a leader we had a Prime Minister who are like mr trimble mr putin would say hollande first of all europe not the European Union but europe first and we dont have that i want to talk a bit about relation to the United States chancellor merkel thinks that e. U. Has to rely on itself from now on as the partnership between the United States and europe is cracking under President Trump do you see a reliable partner in the current administration. No you know i dont think thats that bad and i even believe that european politicians use it they misuse it they misuse and they call for a socalled worse relationship ship with the United States of america they complain about a better relation with the Russian Federation only to be able to say to their people that we have to get more European Union the globe please dont be fooled by the politicians as mrs merkel or mr mccaughan the president of france who says we need to beget a stronger europe today we get even a European Army i dont want a European Army we dont need a European Army its all the politicians will make people afraid that we have better relations with russia better relations with the United States only to enforce more supra nationalism in brussels and the European Union that is the real reason and that is something i dont subscribe to so mr were the last year during the obama years followed american policies closely but now that theres a difference of opinion as was strong do you think the u. S. Will learn its influence over here up. I think that america is an important ally to europe and i think that the American People are friends as the russian people should be but of course different administrations and i think that even though one might criticize or applaud some of the measures the American Administration makes that the end of the day we cannot afford to have either better relations with both america and with russia and i think that it would be very irresponsible as many politicians do to criticize only the american on the Russian Administration america is an important ally mr trump is the president of the important country as mr putin is a president. In both countries and we should have those relations with both of them but so will their stink you for being with us today were talking to hertz will durst later off the dutch party for freedom discussing the pressing challenges here is facing today that set for this edition a selfie and co i will see you next time. 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