Is gaza under attack, with me, amina taylor. Welcome back. The death toll continues to rise after Occupation Forces killed at least 100 people who were waiting for humanitarian aid in gaza city. Doctors report a further 150 were injured in the same attack in the nabulsi area in the west of gaza. In a sign of continuing settlement expansion, the apartite regime has appropriated 600. 50 acres of palestinian land, now designating it a part of malay adamum settlement east of jerusalem alcods. Dozens of ukbased journalists have signed an open letter to the egyptian and israeli embassies to allow on fetted access into gaza and better protection for journalists already working there. In january, Israel Supreme Court rejected a request from International Media citing safety concerns. Meanwhile, in england, voting has opened in the first polls that may well punish both the ruling conservatives and opposition labour parties for their progenocide stance as pro palestine candidates look set to triumph. The us israely bombing of gaza continues at pace. Since october last year, 30,000 palestinians have been killed, most of them women and children. So much to get through and helping me to do just that for this edition of the program, in the studio with me, a welcome. Turn for Charles Kelly, charles is author and finance podcaster, host of the wonderful money tips and joining us via skype from sheffield is holistic transformational life coach uzma nakvi, welcome back to both of you. Uzma, i want to start with you here, because i think its so heartbreaking to see the suffering thats been heaped on the palestinians inside gaza already. And we know whatever happens, uzma, this trauma will linger, will it not . Uh it most definitely will, thank you so much for having me again, you know, and and most likely for the rest of their lives and into their future generations true very very sadly. Um, this is not a trauma that general terms and normal terms, when we talk about trauma, this is not something thats just happening a subconscious level and then we have to deal with the emotional triggers that come as a result of it, thats what we normally talk about as well, this is a manmade. Trauma to an unprecedented extent that absolutely can uh should never have taken place, it could have been prevented. Um, and you know these kids, if were just talking about whats happening right now, they havent eaten for weeks, they havent slept in months, they are of constantly petrified for the next bomb to land in their um tents, theyre having intense adrenaline rush to the point where theyre leading, thats leading them to a cardiac rest, and im talking about children age. Five even younger sometimes having heart attacks, the amount of fear that is running through their little bodies and their minds is un, there are children that are telling doctors that they would rather die than to exist in the way that they are existing right now, there are children that have been rescued from under the rubble who no longer speak, theyve lost, theyre in such a state of shock that theyve lost the ability to communicate anymore, and and there are children that are found under the rubble for our. They just watch their dead siblings lying just right next to them with you burnt out limbs um and and these are children that are malnourished theyve been you know they have been several deaths already that have happened because of starvation in north ghaza um and its just horrific the the endless amount of if they surrive from bombs they if theyre lucky enough to get out of under the rubble theyre having their limit without anesthesia um so you now, top of all of that, they no longer have any surviving members of the family to comfort them, so its absolutely devastating situation that is absolutely going to live with them for very, very long time, and therell be lot of work that needs to be done, to help them, to of support them, to come out of what they are um going through right now. Devastating picture, yet a harshelly realistic one you pose, usma, but charles, i i saw you nodding there as she described some of the realities on the ground, which means a cease fire is more urgent, more necessary than ever. Are you optimistic . President joe biden said we might have had one by monday. Uh, monday is approaching. Yes, i saw that interview is eating ice. Cream, it looks like the optics were, it wasnt the right way to to come across, but i dont know, mean when they talk to either sides, they dont seem ready for for a cease fire yet, so personally im not that optimistic, but you never know they can do these late last minute talks and and get something, but its definitely needed, mean as as usma said, its its its more than just a trauma, its like humanitarian crisis and you know while politicians are talking people are dying, they are indeed, now uzma i i know your your line of specialism here is for the body, the spirit, the soul, but outside of that, um, just your thoughts on there being calls for a cultural and maybe a sporting boycot in the same vein that was witnessed with south africa during its aparthide era, do you think that might have an impact if people perhaps made israel into that paraya state, that paraya entity . I really. Do, im very hopeful, even even to the question you opposed to your guest about cease fire, i if theres no hope, what is there, you know, where i lack words now to describe whats going on and how how even verbalize whats going on, but we have to have faith, hope in whats going on, i really do think that weve entered into the, maybe this is a bit too optimistic, but thats the way i like to think about things that weve entered into the phase of the beginning of the end of this uh oppression, its gone on far too long, it will still take a long, long time and nothing will absolutely nothing will happen overnight um, but the credibility thats been lost over this genocide will never ever be restored in the way that it was before, and that gives charles uh, we like to get your financial hat on there, the economist in you, and we know that all of these incursions have a cost, im speaking more for the uk, the us. Thats pumped billions into the situation in in the middle east and of course israel itself thats lost tourism, people are out of work, people are afraid to go back to some of those settlement areas. Uh, your analysis of that section . No, i agree with you, the tourism is is down, it it plays fairly large part of the their gdp, but but the the cost of war is is enormous, i mean one of the main costs is the debt thats thats thats rising, war. Are usually financed by debt. America already has a National Debt of Something Like 30 trillion plus. Um, uk is approaching three trillion. People think, what is a trillion . Its a million million. If you if they if you paid back somebody a trillion a million a year, it would take million years to to to pay that back. And and its just going up and up and up. The only people seem to benefit are arms manufacturers, uh, Companies Involved in in manufacturing for the war, and it. People do get rich during the the war, but its not ordinary tax payers like us who who get rich, we end up paying for it, indeed. Now, in some more sobering news, i mentioned the figures at the top of the hour, but the un high commissioner for human rights has called for an end to israels offensive in gaza, highlighting that over hundred thousands have already been killed or wounded since the start of the war five months ago, about one in every 20 children, women and men and. Now dead or wounded, at least 17,00 children or orphed or separated from their families. This according to volk turk who told the session of the Human Rights Council justice in geneva. Lets listen in. There appear to be no bounds to, no words to capture the horrors that are unfolding before our eyes in gaza. Since early october, over 10000. People have been killed or wounded, let me repeat that, about one in every 20 children, women and men are now dead or wounded. At least 17, children are offened or separated from their families, while many more will carry the scars of physical and and Emotional Trauma lifelong. The war in gaza must end, clear violations of International Human rights and humanitarian laws, including war crimes, and possibly other crimes under International Law have been committed, almost all are drinking, salty and contaminated water. Healthcare across the territory is barely. Functioning, just imagine what this means for the wounded and for people suffering Infectious Disease outbreaks. In northern gaza, where the operational space for humanitarian work is now almost zero, many are already believed to be starving. Uzma, the un rights chief said, just to almost echo your thoughts there earlier where he says, hes got no words here and went to list alitony. Of of uh crimes and and manipulations and so on, but what are your here, the un rights chief almost sounding as if he doesnt have the answers to these very difficult questions that have been posed by this genocide . It its truly heartbreaking. Um, you know, i ive been asking this question from the beginning, why were these laws created, who has the authority to enforce them . How can this carry on and and nothing happen um and i just think that the way israel have been given the go ahead from the rest of the world um especially the western world there is other country in the world that would get away with that in the way that they have um so i think its just one this this country specifically um that makes everyone feel so hopeless and helpless in the situation uh but again coming back to my optimistic state of being i really would like to think that you know weve come to this this extent that you know everybodys lost for words, what next, like how far can it go . Um, i think the people power is is so immense and everybody is involved in one way or another, this will have to come to an end, but it is very horrible situation to see the top of the top, the like you know the the highest of the high people dont have words anymore, they dont know what to do or what to say, its a very um very terrible situation, and of course charles, you now youre a man who is is very attuned to your statistics and some of the statistics that were wielded out there are almost beyond comprehension, how how are you rationalizing what youre seeing in these different stats that are being thrown at you . Yeah, its its unbelievable when when you think they passed the 30,000 mark of dead people um and its a statistic to us, but to them these are these are 30,000 uh lives lost, families affected, there was there was a. Saying he lost 102 relatives and there were as this this was announced there were apparently israelis were firing on people queueing for food and aid in the early hours of this morning so as as usm said where where does it all end its got to end with talks and America Needs to step in and and get this sorted out i think they theyre the most influential country on on israel um its got to end soon now we know that there is current case about the occupation territories and the legitimacy there off at the icj, israel has already ignored that one month um deadline for them to come back and report about how they are trying to prevent uh any kind of humanitarian further disasters taking place inside gaza, have we lost faith in those institutions, because if theyre not holding clear violations to account, what happens after that . Yeah, i think. there is some loss of faith in those institutions because these judgments theres no enforcement of them, theres nobody uh enforcing these judgments, so i i think there is a bit of lossing faith in in these things, but at least it highlights that the problem, it it it brings it to the the attention of the media and International Countries that some, at least one organization is is trying to stop it. Uzma, we have so many different ideas about you, talking about the. Optimising here or where to go, when someone comes to you and say theyre experiencing fatigue from just watching these images and experiencing this a daytoday basis. What is your feedback as a therapist on this . Its gonna be controversial actually, and it goes completely against what i stand for generally speaking as a as an expert in somebody who likes to see people regulated and support them, come out of their trauma and live. Happy content life. I think that the the kind of world that were living in right now, i think we should be disturbed. I think we should be having sleepless nights, i think we should be thinking about whats going on, and if we are going about our daily life like nothing has happened, that is a bigger problem to me. Having said that, im not advocating for people to burn themselves out. Im not somebody whos whos going to push for that to happen, but i do think that there should. Be level of unease and discomfort in your life right now, because whats happening is not normal and it should not be perceived as normal and it should not be seen as something just happening in another part the. World because this affects every single one of us and it it should shake the core of who we are and what weve believed in so far and thats where the hope comes in right because were saying that weve lost hope in these uh big organizations like the un and and the icj and all of those you know where did they come from . They came from a World War Two which is everything had been lost the way it been conducted they understood that thats not how we want to things to see things continue this is going to yet bring another layer of we never want to see this. Happen so hopefully its going to wake people up, but if we numb ourselves and if we dont have the emotions and if we dont look at whats happening and if we are dont bear withness were basically not going to quit people in the future to make the changes that are necessary, the youth are going to be so disconnected from whats happening, so i think its important and very necessary to feel the pain and were not even feeling the fraction, were just watching, thats all were doing, if we start to understand what they are going through is unfathemable whats going to take for them to come out. Im sure we will, we will survive it, a small price to pay, but one we must pay nonetheless, usma, well, just a reminder here that this is gaza under attack. We take a deep dive into some of the talking points surrounding the ongoing usisraely genocidal war on gaza, the blockaded coastal enclave. Now, the head of the Palestine Mission to the uk, dr. Hussam zomlot told the press in london this week that the state of palestine has put forward a comprehensive plan for. Cease fire and the way forward, but this cannot be achieved if israel doesnt allow an enabling environment. This government is offered by the state of palestine by way of uniting our people and our geography and providing for our immense unprecedented needs, but that government will not be able to do so without creating an enabling environment for that government. That government cannot cannot be formed or functioning if a person like smotrich who happened to be the finance minister of israel keeps deciding should we be receiving our own money or not our money, our taxes, that government cannot function, should we still have all the cribbling checkpoints and walls that has turned apart our economy and shrinked our economic base, that government. But cannot function if we still have no control over our resources, natural resources, land and what have you, that government will not be able to function if we do not have control of our borders, so we create our own and conduct our own International Trade agreements like any other government, of course the government will have to levy, will have to create its own revenue base, and that those are the revenue bases, International Help will go in the form of programs, program that will help in the reconstruction, what have you, but our budget has to come from our revenues, so it is crucial, it is absolutely crucial that we make sure that the new government is enabled, and this is the discussion, this is the conversation we are having with our regional and international partners, and we are presenting all these partners with clear, clear plan and way forward of how new government can function and can deliver. Voting has kicked. Off in the rochedale byelection in england, its the first major test of voters intentions since the start of the us israeli genocide on the people of gaza. Pro palestine candidate George Galloway is tipped to win by the bookmakers, but ahead the count, we spoke with him and asked what would be his first task if elected. The first thing im going to do is on wednesday, Prime Ministers questions, im going to tell the Prime Minister that i have arrived. With a fresh mandate, the only member of the house to do so, with a fresh mandate to stop the slaughter in gaza. A cease fire is necessary, but not sufficient, a temporary pause, humanitarian pause, a simple cease fire is not enough, we need an end to the occupation, we need the total withdrawal of the siege of gaza, and we need recognition of the palestinian right to selfdetermination, in shrined in. International law, en shrined in Security Council resolutions, enshrined in the oslo agreement, all ignored, and the oslo agreement is now dead and buried, its been ignored for so long, 700,000 illegal settlers are now living on the parts of palestine that was supposed to be the palestinian state, so 30 years since the oslo agreement, its time to raise the flag. Of one state, call it the holy land, in which jews, muslims and christians live as equal citizens before the law. These are the kind of arguments ill be making in parliament. George galloway there, so we have few more minutes to go, lets continue the conversation with my guests Charles Kelly and uzber nagvy, and that charles there we saw the um, this bielection in rochedale, its a real litmous test to see how politicians, how voters, how prospective voters are responding to the issue of palestine and gaza and the way politicians have dealt with this, how do you see this playing out . It was very interesting. Um how its worked out for george, i mean george is is a wiley old experienced campaigner, hes hes been an mp before, he was labour mp in scotland, so he he knows what hes doing, but this this is almost like this is falling in his lap because of labors withdraw of support for for their candidate, although it still appears as a labor candidate on the ballot, so maybe some people will just vote labor, but he hes isnt that problematic though the fact that for a man whos been essentially disavowed by his own party. hes still on the ballot because it was too late to take him off, but almost by some kind of conditioning people will still tick the box, because thats how politics sometimes works here, yeah, i guess people go into the box and just oh tick labor, i usually vote labor, so its very close, george is is is the favorite but only by narrow margin um, but it could could cause a big upset if he if he wins, whether hell stay in power for very long, if theres a general election towards the end of the year, he could have very short. Term, why do you say that . Well, because labor could come back and and win in the general election. In byelections uh, sitting parties can often lose by elections more or less as a pro protest vote, but in the general election where theres a higher turn out, more people are out on the streets in the general election, um, usually the seat can go back to the previous party, it could happen, it, im not saying it would happen, but george will certainly shake things up if he gets into parliament, um, im sure hell have few words. To say to to the government, i can almost see richie sunak and sir stam going, oh no, not him, we thought wed escaped him, i got rid of him now and hes back, hes like he wont go away uh, uzma, you know, we weve talked here about politicians with a pro palestine agenda doing quite well so far in some of this, but what do you make of the people power thats brought them to where they are right now, because weve been out on our street. In the tens of thousands here in the millions, some would say . Yeah, its our only hope, its the only reason that i feel any optimism that i do, rotstill, especially what youre just discussing right right now, has very large asian community, muslim community, who are hugely disappointed in the way that you know things have turned out with labor, and um, i think that its a refreshing change, its George Galloway is one of my favorite people, i can listen to him for hours, hes um, somebody whos. Apologetic about his views and and this is something thats happening right now and it needs to be dealt with right now so we need somebody who has the strength to be able to relay a message uh and and was smiling just that when you came to me because youre absolutely right because both the you know the the government right now and the opposition are going to be uh hitting the foreheads when they see George Galloway appear because hes somebody who has lot of strength in what he says he goes with his numbers he he has his facts and figures. Um hes a very strong person, i think its important to to have people like that to you know who can be our voice and we can speak what we want to say because we dont have access to uh the powers that be. I myself have been a supporter of labor for very very long time and i cant remember voting any other any other party, but i you know it will never happen again. Mean that thats how much people feel so such a disappointment that they have completely failed uh us on the views that. We hold as constituents, so i think its really important to have more voices like this, but im certainly very happy that things are evolving in the way that they are, its very disappointing also to see k stammer and the way that he has dealt with this whole thing and the whole suspensions and everything else, and the very reason that they took Jeremy Corbin out is also the very reason that his own members within his own party, its just created such a big mess and i i do think that this will change um, bring up a refreshing change, inshallah, i do see it um being better. Indeed, thank you so much, Charles Kelly and uzban nacfi, great words to leave it there, and thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with us and for you for watching, catchor earlier episodes by visiting pressv. Ir, until we meet again, continue to keep palestine in your hearts. 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