Thank you, i appreciate it, let me come back to mar real quick, uh, mar, we have breaking news that the who, unicef, uh, these are un organizations, one for the health organization, Global Health organization for children, and earlier i heard unra too, they cannot get through to their personnel, and we a time of humanitarian crisis, they cannot, this is one for children, one for refugees, uh, one for health, and uh, considering that all the hospitals are either collapsing or on the verge. Collapsed so basically uh due to this internet blackout and its funny and its ironic because you very well know that that uh resistance groups dont use cell phones and if they did their allaxa flood thing would have been uh turned belly up by the the mosad obviously theyre not using a conventional uh lines of communication so what is the point of this blackout if not to just basically instill terror into the civilian population there and we only have a little bit of time left if you could really quick marwa only. And violence and also is giving them full protections i mean to commit whatever master needed in order to allow the grand invasion to take place and that was a complete and other failure meaning that the bombardment which was hold the ring of fire yesterday in gaza it was a ring of fire continuous bombard and campaign that made a ring of fire the kind of ring that we see inclipsis for example they were given that option in order to uh make way for the ground sea and land and the ground sea and that invasion, but it was a failure, but about the un bodies or the un institutions not being able to get in touch with this people, who are the people of the who at the united not inside of gaza, its the Palestinian People, gaza residents, humans who have been cut off from the world, and it is such depocracy by the United Nations institutions to and announced this this to the world, without condemning the party that started this all, it is a complete hypocricy, and now this show of a conflict that is being portrayed in the media between antonio gotteres, the head of the un. And the signist entity Prime Minister just a show, its a show, the un is only smoke screen a cover by the empire, we need to abolish the un, it has never done anything except what the empire wants, and needs and requests and demands of it. I want to thank you both for joining us on this extended conversation, stay safe to both you, osman joining us from beirout and mr. Bouker and guess are joining us out of nairobi and following developments in beside gaza strip and occupy. Westbank with respect to fate very closely here on press tv, stay tuned and goodbye for now. Hello and welcome to spotlight. Israel continues its bombardment of the besieged gaza strip for the 21st day as more palestinians fall victim to the dead. The total death toll has crossed 7,300 at least 70 of those killed are women and children. Authorities in gaza say over 12,000 tons of explosives have been dropped on gaza. The regimes strikes are coupled with total siege on gaza, cutting off water, electricity, food, fuel and medicine into the territory. The lack of fuel has left hospitals. Able to treat the injured, the wo has warned the Gaza Health Crisis is reaching catastrophic proportions, but intense negotiations and endless diplomacy to open a humanitarian supply and has only result in a handful of aid convoys, this is while the Israeli Military says its expanding ground operations in a sustained manner, the residents in the besieged gaza strip are angry over the worlds silence and in action, which leaves us all with this question, why does the world continue to fail gaza during its . Former cia analyst joining us from rally North Carolina. And ken stone joining us uh from the hamilton to stop the war from hamilton ontario, gentlemen, welcome to the program, lets start off with mcgovern, sir, how many more innocent palestinians have to be murdered in order for the International Community to say enough is enough . The big question here is whether therell be a wider regional war, there are people in washington trying to provoke that. Therell be no limit to the atrocities in gaza, be no stop to them, therell be no ceasefire even for resupply, if that obtains, so the premium right now is not to be boked, not to regard, so called retaliation by the us against iranian sponsored terrorists, play it call and wait for the chinese, and the and the russians to work their will in the Security Council, failing that in the general. This is where it all started of course when israel invaded its neighboring countries in 1967 the un unanimously condemned it in Un Security Council number 242, it call for the withdrawal of the occupy forces and it said that unanimously later a former israeli Prime Minister manahim admitted that we were not being threatened by egyptian or assyrian force. Back in 1967 we decided to make for ourselves, it was our initiative, we have to finally be honest about this, well, hello, theyre honest about it, it was a war aggression, theres a Un Security Council has not been enforced, its time to enforce it, and i see some hope that the un can play a constructive role. Okay, lets cross over to uh, ken stone, uh, you can also talk to us about the issue of the failure of the united Security Council implement. To any form of ceasefire, humanitarian ceasfire, but also i want you to address uh the matter that was brought up by mr. Mcgovern, and thats uh, the gaza war spilling over into uh something wider, a regional conflict, so to say the Russian Foreign minister had uh over the past few days warned of this turning into a regional uh conflict is being quite serious. Well, i have to agree with the uh russian permanent representative in that matter. Uh mushroom into a war or confrontation between the great powers, which would be an awful scenario. Um, i think the reason that the us has sent to Aircraft Carrier uh groups, in the past couple of weeks and has announced that its sending two more, which is huge amount of force is to deter uh any possible participation or any possible intervention in this. A war um by hezballah or by the Islamic Republic of iran to try and help to try and save the people of gaza from genocide or from ethnic cleansing, so its a massive show of force to try and prevent um regional players from intervening in this onesided conflict where israel is basically shooting fish in a barrel. Um, i do hope that the the when you talk about the un, said that hadnt uh had any success so far, we have to point out that uh the the Russian Federation had a resolution which called for a sice fire, us vetoed that, and then the us tried to bring in another resolution the other day, which did not contain word seasfire and or lift siege of gaza, i believe, and russia and china betowed it, hopefully theyll get together at some point and see the wisdom of having a ceasefire and the lift. Of siege of gaza, in fact ending the bloccade, israels illegal bloccade of gaza thats gone on for 16 years, we we hope so, but to your point about why does the world continue to fail gaza during its darkest hours, i would change the focus a bit and say that if you look around the world right now, the people of the world are not failing gaza, they are standing up for gaza, do you want me to continue about that, because theres lots that could be said, well in canada here, there are demons virtually every single day of the week on behalf of gaza, we had them here in hamilton ontario, and we had the biggest demonstration of solidarity with the Palestinian People in the history of this city, and theyre continuing large demonstrations, 2000 in montreal, 15, 16, in toronto every every day, and there are resolutions being passed, there are meetings happening, there are stuff on social media, webinars, every single day, i have not seen this level of. Activity since run up to the us and the british attack on on iraq back in 2003 and it reminds me also going back to the war in vietnam where you could call for route or demonstration. And at noon you could have demonstration a sizable, so the people of world are not abandoning gaza, angry and frustrated and theyre out in the streets, so its clear to me that the world, that the people of the world are out there and theyre pressuring their politicians, especially here in the west, which have been dragging their feet, though the the politicians have had to make changes in their dialogue and their statements, indicating uh the. Horror at the uh Israeli Attack on gaza, so there people are forcing their politicians to change their stance. Right, just to pick up on that note, mr. Stone, the the demonstrations are there, still we know, unfortunately the demonstrations are not enough to stop the killing and and massacre of uh of uh palestinians in gaza, but of course you mentioned that that pressure has to translate over uh into the government of these countries, back to mr. Govern, and in rolly, the onrowa chief uh lazarini, he said it as direct as possible, the gaza is being strangled and the basic services in gaza are crumbling, but however following in his intense negotiations and endless diplomacy open a humanitarian supply line, only a handful of aid convoys have been allowed into the into the gas strip, its really tough to wrap ones head around that issue, around that fact that why would only a handful of aid convoys be allowed during this. Time where uh women and children are suffering, patients are suffering, who is the main impediment here . The operative word of afraid is genocide, this is what the israelies intend for gaza, and this is what the universal world has to stand up against. Now it is very encouraging that there is more populaus palestine than before, despite the despicable hamas raid, okay . It is encouraging that many of the nations around israel are are seeking reinforced frederic and we probably will see that that will translate into action pretty soon, but the major factor here are the people like tony blincon who has blinkers on. Now for somebody to come into israel and say, i want to help out here, but remember, im a jew, well what i have to do with this . Im afraid it. Have to do with this, and so blincon has got to take a linkers off, and whos going to help him do that . His counterpart, the Chinese Foreign minister wongi, who is in washington today and tomorrow, meeting, perhaps with President Biden to see if biden is still smart enough to realize that two front war is really really dangerous, threefront war, well that may be able to be financed by borrowing money from the chinese, but the us cannot win, what do i say three fun . War because early this morning a chinese fighter came within 10 feet of b52, usb52 flying in the south china sea, thats close to a catastrophe folks, the chinese dont usually do that, what are they trying to say, they going to say, look, if this is and happens, what are you going to do about it, are you going to have a three front war . I mean, is not finished, youre going to be involved in the middle east and and the south china sea, so wang is going to measure biden to see if hes compassments and whether. And and sullivan can be embarrassed in his presence to recognize that look they better rain these things in, they better do what can said on tuesday, not what he said last sunday, namely entertain the entertain the notion of the humanitarian fire that could last quite some time rather than the Israeli Forces invade all mos and chaos insue. Ken stone, what about the Mainstream Medias twist that there that the. She talked about uh the international rallys International Response uh and the uh increased global level of awareness with regards to the palestinian cause thats all happening in spite of the media propaganda, the distorted narrative that western Mainstream Media puts on events regarding palestine and the war aer right now where theyre trying to portray israelis as the victims. Well, the western Mainstream Media always tries to portray the israeli as as victim. And it always um protects the reputation of the state of israel and basically gives it a pass, um, but i have to say that ive seen even a change in the in the tone of the Mainstream Media here in canada, because all the demonstrations and the people calling up their mps, people writing letters to the editor, people, people becoming involved in the political process all of sudden, for example on. The tv stations in canada, ctv and cbc, uh, few weeks ago, you would never have seen palestinians interviewed on the air, on national news. And the lasts weve seen representatives of palestinian organizations uh on tv and theyve been given long periods of time to explain why it is that there was this explosion in gaza and what the uh israeli uh declaration of war on gaza and its military siege on gaza is going to mean so i think that there has been a complete shift narrative of the Mainstream Media as well besides the shift in the discourse of mainstream politicians so i im encouraged to see this, of course its not enough, there they always try and show some, they always at the very least they always trying to show that israel and israel and palestinians are equivalent, but of course we know its not true, israel is the occupier, its a colonial project, its has a system of party, and the palestinians are the victims and the Mainstream Media still on the whole tries to show that the palestinians are the the cause these problems, which is. Of course pass backwards to to the actual situation, the head of hamas political bureaus, he recently made a call to uh quote unquote allied brotherly nations to apply pressure through every avenue to stop the ongoing attacks on gaza, you have to think that his comments were direct at at the arab governments of the region, how would you rate the arab governments response here so far, of course they have the capability, they have the. Way basically uh to to get together collectively, have a response uh in the to the israelis uh, specifically the countries that have normalized ties recently, expell their ambassadors, so the way is there, the question is, is the will there . How would you rate the arab government, in their response so far . Well, the correlation of forces this time is different, uh, the arab countries and iran add are stronger and more united than ever before and more outraged at genocide, should be. The question is whether they will let themselves be poked prematurely. We have two Aircraft Carrier strike groups now in the or one is coming to the area, ford is there, the isenhower is still in the atlantic as far as i know, there is time for a diplomatic activity, i think the un can play a very restrict a very constructive role. As they should after all, since 1967 they havent enforced that that Security Council resolution adopted unanimously by all the countries on the Security Council then, so i just hope that the activities of participants now will not be so provocative that the main players there will will see the sense in being somewhat restrained given the fact that it would suit some of the people in washington. And just great if there were incident if someone attacked one of the Aircraft Carriers and theyre not very hard to attack, think about three football, three soccer fields, thats how long they are, so uh, there are people at risk in there that put been put at risk deliberately by us forces. The question is uh, will they provoke kind of reaction that some people in washington pretty much hope they will. Ken stone, would you add anything to that . Uh of course um the reactions coming from arab countries necessarily doesnt have to be in a Military Form uh they can start um collectively for example uh sanctioning uh israels recalling their ambassadors maybe swapping the normalization deals with them something along those lines well do agree that the arab countries could scrap the normalization agreements and could retract their ambassadors and strong statements, that thats all in the normal line of diplomacy, and they could do it uh today, why havent they . Um, i dont know, im not privy to the their innermost thoughts, but it may happen, im thinking that there are a couple of things that the other your other guest, mr. Mcgovern, whom i greatly respect, didnt mention, and that is that the us and israel are putting lot of pressure on the neighboring. Countries right now uh to keep them in line, for example, israel has bombed the uh aleppo and damascus airports for the end time, i dont how many times theyve done it, and i think that was a warning uh to the government of president asad not to get involved, and and also the us, i think is up the anti considerably by launching air strikes in iraq against Popular Mobilization groups which had which they claim had launched attacks on us basis in iraq so um that these are moves i think to deter. Iran and syria from get involved in the conflict on side of the people of gaza and palestine in general, but they are escalations, and uh, they they do threaten the peace, theyre completely illegal, the uh us has no business whatsoever in in syria, it has an occupation there of the country that has all the oil and the wheat resources, it should out of there now, and in iraq, it should be pointed out that at time of the assassination, the. Assassination by President Trump of general solei um the Iraqi Parliament unanimously passed the resolution that the us should get out of there too, but these latest actions by israel and the us are escalations, which i think are intended to deter neighboring arab countries from getting involved on the side of palestine. Right govern, lets talk about the issue of accountability, there has to be. Consequences uh for the crimes that these israeles are committing, the murdering of children, innocent women targeting schools, targeting medical facilities, um, choking off an entire population uh from the rest of the world, where does, and how does accountability start . Let me just comment first on on the last speakers just words here, uh, it could be that the us bombings in uh iraq now and syria. Are meant to deter uh neighboring countries from playing major role, it could equally well be that there to provoke them, okay, provoke everything is said about these iran supported terrorist, iran iran, iran is supporting, so uh, it is my view that its more likely to provoke them because people in washington would like nothing more than that, now as far as genocide is concerned, i mean its clearly defined in international law, a country have been accused and convicted of genocide, witness, yugoslavia, in the late 90s, and so if you if the nations representing the worst people cannot summon the kuman and the courage come out and stop this thing, even if its just a temporary cause in bombing, well then theyre good for anything, i think they are good for lots of stuff, and i think the chinese and the russians believe so as well, i think we will see within next week, its fair and i hope to god. That does happen because otherwise israel is going to do something really stupid in part to provoke the regional powers to react and thus in turn provoke the us to devend its quote ally and quote, israel, i put quotes around because israel is not an ally of the united states, looking up in them in the dictionary, ally requires defense packed and there aint none between through and united states. Okay, thanks. Gentlemen, former cia analyst, governorly North Carolina and stone from the Hamilton Coalition to stop the from hamilton ontario, and the special thanks to our viewers for staying with us on tonight, spotlight tonight for now and see you next time. 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