Led in some 50 truck loads of humanitarian aid, which according to un officials is that drop in the ocean given the urgent needs of the besieged people in gaza. Now how far would this go, how many more innocent palestinan lies would be lost until this unprecedented genocide stops . These are the questions and more of those questions, im going to ask our guests in tonights edition of the spot, let me introduce our guests. Richard methers a journalist and commentator in vienna, also shabia rizby, political commentator is in chicago, okay, welcome to the show, gentlemen, beginning uh with richard, richard, one basic question, who should pay the price of thousands of innocent lifes in gaza . Thank you for having me on the program, sure that the thing. Is that we we cant just uh hold the israelis accountable, this is really being done with the uh the United States uh supplying the infrastructure, the weapons uh for israel to carry out this genocide, and of course the politicians in westminster and in brussels who who are not only giving israel uh support through logistics, intelligence and military means, but also the political and media cover that it requires. Uh weve seen in the United Kingdom now uh and and really the entire west this ground work being laid for years and years where its become impossible to criticize uh the israelis because they start loving this accusation of antisemitism of people which is which is propostous um you know the the israelis can only function with the support of the west uh hasan nasaralla famously said that israel is as weak as a spiders web so the second the the weapon stop coming in from the west. Uh the second the political uh cover uh unravevels in the west, israel cannot continue, um, the army, the israeli army is not prepared for a Ground Invasion, which is why theyve held off until now, because in 2014, despite causing so many civilian casualties, um, you know, uh, the the the israelis had the floor wipe with them because um, when they came in, they were simply unprepared to deal with uh the hamas fighters a man to man or face to face. So you know for now we have the israelis who have built an army that is only capable of bombing of people from the air, they are just aerial power, but when it comes to a wellrounded military force, they are simply not the same israel that were talking about from 40 years ago, perhaps, so right now, the the only People Holding israel to account are the global south and and the the axis of resistance, there is no political cover for israel in in the arab and muslim countries, there is there is only uh some left unfortunately in the gulf monarchies, in the of persian gulf uh, we have the arab kingdoms there that are still looking which way is going to work out best for them, but what we really need to hold account, hold accountable for what these atrocities are not just the israelis, its people in washington, its the people in westminster and in brussels without a shadow of doubt. Right, and uh, shabir, whats the tel aviv regimes uh plan to force the people in gaza out of their homeland, to push them to. Parts of jordan and sinai and egypt so that they could establish their state there, your thought, yeah, i think 100 , um, the the Israeli Regime, the occupation regime, as i call them, is taking full advantage of this opportunity, as my colleague here said, they cant fight to toe with hamas or with hesboolah or with really any member of what we call the access of resistance, so they are using this opportunity to wipe out as many people in gaza as possible. Has taken an immense toll on on the population, their entire families have been wiped out. Ive seen people that i was connected to on twitter on linked in that are no longer alive and their friends and their families arent alive. Either, and so with the full political backing of the United States, of the eu, of the western regimes, israel is trying to wipe out as many people as it can, in order to wipe out the entire population, in order to force them into for example egypt as you said or into jordan, but the fact of the matter is the the Palestinian People historically uh will not bow down to that pressure, they will they will fight back, as we seen the they fight back constantly, they fight back heroically. And so 100 what we what were seeing is the is attempted mass um expulsion of the Palestinian People once again but i think israel has miscalculated now they have several different variables that they have to deal with such as worldwide pressure we see millions and millions of people coming to the streets to demand justice for palestine calling it for what it is its not cleansing genocide and the the the rules have been rewritten essentially now the the only thing that the Israeli Regime can really count on as political backing from regimes that they themselves are losing their legitimacy. Right now richard, do you think that the uh zion is could achieve their plan, because resistance fighters and their leaders, they had a press conference just a couple of hours ago, they insisted that they are not going anywhere that theyre going to remain in gaza, and then we had a funny joke by the Energy Minister of the natanyahu cabinet saying that our army is one of the most ethics based army and military, otherwise we have. Raised the gaza off the earths face and he draw this comparison between us and mexico and said had mexico done something against texas like hamas did to the israelis then the us would have simply uh wiped off the whole uh mexico off the earths face yeah i mean i i find this ridiculous that were supposed to be like thankful uh to the israelis or people in gaz are supposed to show them gratitud. And say thank you for not completely you know wiping us out in one fill swoop, theyre theyre already trying, um, the israelis, they you know they they can tell um that that um, you know, as as my fellow guest said here, that people are already enraged, the the the actual people, the average joe, um, on the street in the west, the theyre theyre shocked at whats happening, its only the media in the west and the governments there that give you the impression that you know they stand. With israel, uh, this, this is rubbish, you can fit these people into in this handful of people into one room, um, the you know, the average joe, average people everywhere can see whats going on, they can see that this is genocide, um, and uh, you know, the the thing is that the israelis, they are trying to either kill off the palestinians in gaza entirely, or push them into the sinai desert, um, which again, if this were the other way around. If someone were trying to push uh the jewish settlers into the desert, they would be screaming antisemites and genocide at them, but you know when the israelis are doing it, its fine, apparently, i mean, um, you know, so so the israelis want to kill the palestinians off in gaza completely, or uh, have them move into a a different country and once again abandon their homes, we should remember that people in gaza, lot of them do not come from gaza, they come from settlements next door, where they lost their. Homes once to the israelis already, so the theyre effectively being ethnically cleansed twice, and what the israel want to do, with the israelis succeed to do this . The thing is that the the israelis uh, they will get away with the slaughter, im afraid, just like theyve gotten away with this every single time, um, but when they try the Ground Invasion uh, which which seems impending, i think the resistance are going to uh, you know, give them a response theyve never seen if if you thought that 2006 was a humillation. Weve seen nothing yet, even october 7th, this this again may 2006 look like nothing, when the israelis were destroyed in lebanon, and so whats going to happen now, we were going to see, and you can already see yesterday, and shaddadi, and konico oil fields in iraq and syria being hit by the resistance, and and yemen is also stepping up to the plate, hazballah and hamas are already to step up to the plate and hazballah has been drawn Israeli Forces to the north and stretching them thin, this is already a strategy that theyve been employing and causing uh 30 israeli settlements to be evacuated, so this is already, theyre already fighting with alongside hamas by causing chaos inside of the israeli colony as it is, exactly, and today was the actually the largest rocket attack by uh resistance fighters and saturns uh were sounded even in tel aviv and some other cities, and uh shabir, how could this is really . Carnage and ethnic clingsing the palestinians in gaza be stopped, un and others are talking about truth, even the us, Anthony Blinken at the Security Council today, said that we need a what he called a pause. Pause of one day or two days whatever, even the us believes that this needs to stop, so whats your anticipation, whats on the horizon for people in gaza . I think the only way this will end will be the complete and total victory of what we call the access of resistance of the palestinian resistance, because if you look at it, you know, calling for a ceasfire is one thing, but a ceasfire today just really just means that the world gets to turn away and turn their backs once again on the palestinian cause um and forest for. They are oppressed every day, they live under apartide occupation regime, so the ethnic cleansing will continue, and then until the next you know event where you know gaz is once again being bombed, and so if you want solution to this, resistance is the only solution, um, if you want the israeli apartide ethnic cleansing to end, then you need to destroy the occupation, and the only people, the only players in the room that are capable of doing this are what we call the axis of resistance, be you know the resistance factions in gaza, it would be hezbollah, it would be iran and syria stepping up to the plate, and i think that would be the only true justice that we could see in the system, because otherwise you know under the political backing of the United States and the eu and all these western um people that you, as my colleague here said, you could you could fit them all into the same room, i really like that, im going to use that actually, um, you know, israel has no legitimacy, and and the regimes that back it also have no legitimacy, its. Just a criminal enterprise, its a criminal enterprise thats highly armed as Nuclear Weapons and has all these sophisticated agencies throughout the world, but they have no backing of the public, they have no actual political legitimacy, and they have honestly what it comes down to is they have no claim over the land, its its an illegal occupation state, and so it will take the access of resistance complete victory for to finally expell and put an end to this horrific chapter in history. Uh, richard, as you know, most people around the world, they are now out on the streetss everywhere, its not only muslim and arab countries, its not only in iran, its in iran they were at midnight when that hospital disaster happened, they were out on the streets all over iran, and in the us in front of white jews going in front of white house, this not in our name, thats the slogans that theyre changing, i was talking to rabbi, they said, listen, zionism is different from judaism, judaism has nothing to do with all this, okay, what about the world leader . I mean, leaders in america, uh, in europe, people know whats going to palestina, what the facts are, who the Israeli Regime, officials of military are, but what about their governments, what about the officials, how could the this public outrage in a way can bring them to their senses, would they ever come to their senses and get to grip with realities . I i think its a very uh important point that you touched on, because they the the european just settlers uh that have that have come to palestine and and call themselves israels, they do not represent uh people from the middle east, they are not people from the middle east, and they certainly in no respect uh represent jews. Jews, muslims, christians have been living side by side for thousands of years in the middle east, with no problem whatsoever, uh, you, some of the largest jewish communities are in iran, in iraq, in syria, in palestine itself, so there has never been a problem, its. This is another tactic by the British Government and western governments to make it sectarian issue, like in northern ireland, they say its protestant in its catholic, and then in the middle east, they say sunni against shiah or muslim against, its nothing to do with that, this is a colonial issue, and the people, the these these leaders in the west, they are they are so blinded by money and greed, what they are trying to do right now is to um is to completely destroy the infrastructure of the mediterranean sea, leaving only high port intact, this is why they destroy israel has bombed latakiia port in syria numerous times and taken it out of action, the beirout port also taken out of action. Gaza itself is is a is a port city, is is on the beach, its on, its a its on the mediterranean sea, they want to, the israelies want to control it completely so that their new corridor, which netanyahu uh showcased at the un, the weeks ago, is able to function, going through uae, saudi arabia, jordan, to occupied palestine and then to the eu. This is the grand strategy that is at hand here, and so we also know theres a lot of gas, gaza has lot of gas on the mediterranean sea, uh, syria has lot of gas and we saw lebanon where israel tried to steal gas from lebanon last year from the kurish gas field, and that was finally resolved, and the only, the only reason they back down is because hazballah warned them, if you take one cubic uh, one cubic centimeter of gas, we will blow you to high hell, so it it was very important for. For uh the israelis and it is important for the israelis to this moment to get gas so they can supply europe where they have cut off iran and theyve cut off russia from the market so this is another a thing that is hand yes, the israelis are racists, the israelis um, are islamophobic, and the israelis are colonizers, but they are also trying to fulfill the economic projects of of uh, tel aviv and washington and and brussels, thats also very important to point out. Right, and shabir, would diplomacy work in case of the israele regime, because they are asking for a lasting peace, the katara and other officials saying, the only solution is lasting peace, but how could you ever . Sit a negotiating table with zionist officials, they adhere to nothing, how how would they when they if they sign in any agreement, would they stick to it, what guarantee do you have, would diplomacy work, cuz one of them was saying that this diplomacy did work like between for example, lebanon and israel, they had over the maritime dispute they had, iran and saudi arabia rapman and detan, okay, what about israelis and palestinians with diplomacy . In the case of israel . If i see someone sitting a table with a zionist, im looking at two zionists essentially. Um, you cant have diplomacy with the zionist regime, the zionist regime in and of itself, if you look at you, their own words, the the looks, the plans of their defense ministers, for example, they have the idea of a greater israel, in fact theyre actively flaunting it, and greater israels into egypt, it extends into syria, it extends into saudi arabia, this is theyre telling you what their plans are, so im not. Really sure why anyone would want to sit a negotiating table with their future potential murderer, you know, it makes no sense. Um, the the occupation regime again is politically backed by the United States, so even if it does go to execute these grants, these grand plans of maybe even invading saudi arabia, syria, jordan, what have you, right . It would have the full political and military backing of the United States. There is no negotiating with someone that is actively admitting that they have plans to kill you. Exactly. Okay, now richard, what about accountability, what about justice . I was talking to International Law, human rights lawyer, and he was a stressing that we need justice. Okay, how, what mechanism . Who can do what . In the face of all these violence, bloodched, ethnic cleansing and genocide thats happening against palestinians, which court, which tribunal can do something to bring Israeli Regime to justice. Well, i, i, i remember when i was uh covering the uh. Uh International Criminal courtss decision to uh to declare jurisdiction over palestine and the occupied territories meaning that they were now ready to to bring netanyahu and others uh like him to justice you know the of course as usual the israels First Response was that this is antisemitic and its targeting as they call it the the only jewish state in the world for which is ridiculous because the International Criminal court does not target uh countries or entities or organizations it targets individuals meaning that netanyahu and his generals, so there there is one prospect of that happening, but i i honestly i dont see it, ever, you know, coming to fruition, because the iccc, the only thing its accomplished so far is to go after African Leaders and you know, maybe people from yugoslavia, and thats it, and its largely been seen as a defunct um obsolete institution, because it never held george bush or tony blair or netanyahu or or any of these western and israelly. Leaders to account for what they have done and they are certainly the biggest criminals on the face the planet. So this brings us to the other aspect of things, which is if you cant get justice in the courts, what do you do . The you know International Law is very clear, the United Nations charter, the geneva convention, which form the pillars of International Law are clear, they say that if you are invaded, you have the right to resist, so this is why hamas are are gorilla fighters in the west, israel doesnt head any these things was going all the way today trying to say that nobody is above International Law, humanitarian law must be respected, different envoys of the Security Council said, brazil, others, uae, that nobody can go beyond this, this is violation, yeah, they say it, but they dont, they dont practice it, you know, and and the americans in israeli say they they you know implement International Law, honestly there isnt a war crime. Israel hasnt committed, exactly, so shabir, will israel again manage to get away with all these crimes . Um, i think one day theyll be held to account, not through the icc, not through the United Nations, certainly, but i think through that the resistance factions who will godwilling, you know, annihilate the zionist entity, i think it will be up to them to actually proceed with what true justice looks like, okay, under their own rulings, all right, and we have one minute for each of you, were reaching uh the end of the show, so uh let me know what you think uh is around the corner uh for people in gaza . Well i i really dont know what to say, i just keep them in my prayers and i hope that people um in the west wake up and and put a stop to this because its their governments uh that are doing this in their names and you know gaza does not have forever to just wait around for people in the west to you know finally do something uh its its a you know really only only god can can uh um you know decide what happens uh and and bring these murderers to account um and this is going to be done through the form of popular resistance. People in gaza are not are not just going to abandon their homes and leave their homes and tolerate this stuff, they have been through hell and they refuse to leave, and its the resistance factions that have to take things into their own hands, because International Law and International Courts have abandoned them, so they leave them no record, one minute, richard said at best, i will leave it to that, i cant top that, okay, thank you so much, richard metherst, journalist and commentator in viena, shaber resvy, political commentator in. Cargo and thank you for watching this episode of the spotlight, ill being your host naj, ill see you next time, حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيلاويه. The zionist enemy decided to conduct a ground operation in gaza under us protection, but is still hesitant implement it as the resistance awaits him underground and above it. The existing coordination between the forces of the axes of resistance witnessed an expansion in the activities of Popular Support for the resistance in palestine, and that seems to have become an upward path accompanied by increase in the level of Field Support for gaza from inside and outside the historic palestinian map. A tenf base, koniko base, ain asad base and alharir base were all under iraqi and syrian resistance fire, while yemeni Ballistic Missiles aimed at the Israeli Occupation were intercepted by the us navy this time. West asia headed for total war this week on the mediast stream. Targeted attacks on civilian infrastructure with a clear aim to cut off men, women, children of water, electricity and heating with the winter coming, these are acts of pure terror, and we have to call it as such. Palestinian officials in gaza say israels dropped more than 12,000 tons of explosives on the besieged territory as the. Pull from regime strikes approach 6, ham sages massive rocket attack targeting tel aviv and several other israeli cities in retaliation for the regimes bombardment of the besige gaza strip and iran strongly denounces israel for killing journalists in gaza, 19 journalists have been killed in recent israeli attacks on the besiege territory