Destroyed, more than million gazans have been displayed, some 7000 of them taking shelter in schools, the israeli army saying its amast some 100,000 reserve troops to stage a Ground Invasion of gaza, large scale and discriminate taxs of hit houses, mosks, churches and even hospitals, the death toll so far close to 6, only 74 in a matter of 24 hours and one third of them even more than one third. Children, rafa crossing only led in some 50 truck loads of human aid, which according to un officials is that drop in the ocean given the urgent needs of the besieged people in gaza. Now how far would this go, how many more innocent palestinan lives would be lost until this unprecedented genocide stops . These are the questions and more of those questions im going to ask our guests of in tonights edition of the spot. Let me introduce our guests. Richard. Metters, a journalist and commentator in vienna. Also of shabia rizby, political commenter is in chicago. Okay, welcome to the show gentlemen. Of uh, beginning uh with richard. Richard, one basic question. Who should pay the price of thousands of innocent lifes in god . Thank you for having me on the program, sure uh, the thing is that we we cant just uh hold the israelis accountable, this is really being done with the uh the United States supplying the infrastructure, the weapons uh for israel to carry out this genocide, and of course the politicians in westminster and in brussels who are not only giving israel uh support through logistics and and military means, but also the political and media cover that it requires, weve seen in the United Kingdom now, and and really the entire west, this ground work being laid for years and years where its become impossible to criticize the israelis because they start lobbing this accusation of antisemitism of people, which is which is preposterous. The israelis can only function with the support of the west, famously said that. Israel is as weak as a spiders web, so the second, the the weapons stop coming in from the west, the second the political cover uh, you unravels in the west, israel cannot continue, um, the army, the israeli army is not prepared for a Ground Invasion, which is why theyve held off until now, because in 2014, despite causing so many civilian casualties, um, you know, the the the israelis had the floor wipe with them because um, when they came in they were simply prepared to deal with uh the hamas fighters a man to man or face to face basis. So you know for now we have the israelis who have built an army that is only capable of bombing people from the air, they are just aerial power, but when it comes to a wellrounded military force, they are simply not the same israel that were talking about from 40 years ago, perhaps, so right now, the the only People Holding israel to account are uh the global south and the and and the the axis of resistance uh. There is no political cover for israel uh in in the arab and muslim countries, there is there is only uh some left unfortunately in the gulf monarchies in the persian gulf uh with the arab kingdoms there that are still looking which way is going to work out best for them, but what we really need to hold account hold accountable for what these atrocities are not just the israelis, its people in washington, its the people in westminster and in brussels, without a shadow of doubt. Right, and uh, shabir, whats the tel aviv regimes uh plan . To force the people in gaza out of their homeland, to push them to parts of jordan and sinai and egypt so that they could establish their estate there, your thoughts on that . Yeah, i think 100 , um, the the Israeli Regime, the occupation regime, as i call them, is taking full advantage of this opportunity, as my colleague here said, they cant fight to toe with hamas or with hesbollah or with really any member of what we call the access of resistance, so they are using this opportunity to wipe out as many people in gaza as possible, and this has taken an immense toll on on the population, their entire families have been wiped out, ive seen people that i was connected to on twitter on linkedin, that are no longer alive and their friends and their families arent alive either, and so with the full political backing of the United States, of the eu, of the western regimes, israel is trying to wipe out as many people as it can, in order to wipe out the entire population, in order to force them into for example, egypt as you said or into jordan, but the fact of the matter is the the Palestinian People historically uh will not bow down to that pressure. They will they will fight back and as we seen the they fight back constantly they fight back heroically and so 100 what we what were seeing is the is attempted mass um expulsion of the Palestinian People once again but i think israel has miscalculated now they have several variables that they have to deal with such as worldwide pressure we see millions and millions of people coming to the streets to demand justice for palestine calling it for what it is its not cleansing genocide and the the the rules have been rewritten essentially, now the the only thing that the Israeli Regime can really count on is political backing from regimes that they themselves are losing their legitimacy. Right, now richard, do you think that the uh zinis could achieve their plan because resistance fighters and their leaders, they had a press conference just a couple of hours ago, they insisted that they are not going anywhere, that they are going to remain in gaza, and then we had a funny joke by the Energy Minister of the natan yahoo cabinet saying that our army is is one the most ethics based army and military, otherwise we have raised the gaza off the earths face and he brought this comparison between us and mexico and said had mexico done something against texas like hamas did to the israelis then the us would have simply wiped off the whole uh mexico off the earths face yeah i mean i i find this ridiculous. That were supposed to be like thankful uh to the israelis or people in gaz are supposed to show them gratitude and say thank you for not completely you know wiping us out in one fill swoop theyre theyre already trying um the israelis they you know they they can tell um that that um you know as as um my fellow guest said here that people are already enraged uh the the the actual people the average joe um you know on the street in the west the theyre theyre shocked at whats happening its only the media in the west and the governments there that give you the impression that you know they stand fully with israel uh, this is this is rubbish, you can fit these people into in this handful of people into one room, um, the you know the average joe, average people everywhere can see whats going on, they can see that this is genocide, um, and uh, you know, the the the thing is that the israelis they are trying to either kill off the palestinians um in gaza entirely. Or push them into the sinai desert, um, which again, if this were the other way around, if someone were trying to push uh the jewish settlers into the desert, you know, they would be screaming antisemites and genocide at them, but you know when the israelies are doing it, its fine, apparently, i mean, um, you know, so so the israelis want to kill the palestinians off in gaza completely, or uh, have them move into a a different country and once again abandon their homes, we should remember that people in gaza. A lot of them do not come from gaza, they come from settlements next door, where they lost their homes once to the israelis already, so the theyre effectively being ethnically cleansed twice, so what is want to do, would israel succeed to do this . The thing is that the the israelis uh, they will get away with this slaughter, im afraid, just like theyve gotten away with this every single time, um, but when they try the Ground Invasion uh, which which seems impending, i think the resistance are going to. Uh you know give them a response theyve never seen if if you thought that 2006 was a humiliation uh weve seen nothing yet even october 7th this again may 2006 look like nothing um when the israelis were destroyed in lebanon and so whats going to happen now we were going to see and you can already see yesterday and the shadadi uh and konico oil fields in iraq and in syria being hit by the resistance and and yemen is also stepping up to the plate. Has been drawing Israeli Forces to the north and stretching them thin, this is already a strategy that theyve been employing and causing uh already israeli settlements to be evacuated, so this is already, theyre already fighting with alongside hamas by causing chaos inside of the israeli colony as it is, exactly, and today was the actually the largest rocket attack by uh resistance fighters and cirons uh were sounded even in telavive and some other cities, and uh shabir, how could this is really carnage and ethnic clingsing the palestinians in gaza be stopped, you and others are talking about true, even the you. Was anthony blincon at the Security Council today said that we need a what you called a pause pause of one day or two days whatever even the us believes that this needs to stop so whats your anticipation whats on the horizon for people in gaza . I think the only way this will end will be the complete and total victory of what we call the axis of resistance of the Palestinian Resistance because if you look at it you know calling for a ceasfire is one thing but a ceasfire today just really just means that that the world gets to turn away and turn their backs once again on the palestinian cause um and forest for palestinians you are oppressed every day they live under an apartide occupation regime so the ethnic cleansing will continue um and then until the next you know event where you know gaz is once again being bombed and so if you want solution to this resistance is the only solution um if you want the is really apartide ethnic cleansing to end then you need to destroy the occupation and only people, the only players in the room that are capable of doing this are what we call the axis of resistance, it would be, the resistance factions in gazla, it would be hezballah, it would be iran and syria stepping up to the plate, and i think that would be the only true justice that we could see in the system, because otherwise you know under the political backing of the United States and the eu and all these western um people that you know as my colleague here said, you could you could fit them all into the same room, i really like that, im going to use that actually, um, israel has no legitimacy and and the regimes that back it also have no legitimacy, its just a criminal enterprise, its a criminal enterprise thats highly armed as Nuclear Weapons and as all these sophisticated agencies throughout the world, but they have no backing of the public, they have no actual political legitimacy, and they have honestly what it comes down to is they have no claim over the land, its its an illegal occupation state, and so it will take the access of resistance complete victory for to finally expel and put an end to this horrific chapter in history uh richard as you know most people around the world they are now out on the streets everywhere its not only muslim and arab countries its not only in iran its in iran they were at midnight you when that hospital disaster happened they were out on the streets all over iran and in the us in front of white jews going in front of white houses this not in our name thats the slogans that theyre changing i was talking to rabbi they said listen zionism is different from judaism, judaism has nothing to do with all this. Okay, what about the World Leaders . Mean, leaders in america, in europe, people know whats going to palestina, what the facts are, who the Israeli Regime, officials of military are, but what about their governments, what about the officials, how could the this public outrage in a way can bring them to their senses, would they ever come to their senses and get to grip with realities . I think its a very important point that you touched on, because they the the European Jewish settlers uh that have that have come to palestine and and call themselves israels, they do not represent uh people from the middle east, they are not people from the middle east, and they certainly in no respect uh represent jews. Jews, muslims, christians have been living side by side for thousands of years in the middle east, with no problem whatsoever, some of the largest jewish communities are in iran. In iraq, in syria, in palestine itself, so there has never been a problem, its this is another tactic by the British Government and western governments to make it sectarian issue, like in northern ireland, they say its protestant against catholic, and then in the middle east, they say sunni against shiah or muslim against, its nothing to do with that, this is a colonial issue, and the people, the these these leaders in the west, they are, they are so blinded by money and greed, what they are trying to do right now is to, to completely destroy the infrastructure of the mediterranean sea, leaving only hifa port intact. This is why they destroy israel has bombed latakiya port in syria numerous times and taken it out of action, the beirout port also taken out of action. Gaza itself is is a is a port city, is is on the beach, its on, its a its on the mediterranean sea, they wanted the israelies want to control it completely so that their new corridor, which netanyahu uh showcased at the un 3. Weeks ago is able to function going through uae, saudi arabia, jordan, through occupied palestine and then to the eu. This is the grand strategy that is at hand here, and so we also know theres a. Lot of gas, gaza has lot of gas on the mediterranean sea, uh, syria has lot of gas and we saw lebanon where israel tried to steal gas from lebanon last year from the karish gas field, and that was finally resolved, and the only, the only reason they back down is because hazballah warned them, if you take one cubic uh, one cubic centimeter of gas, we will blow you to high hell, so it was very important for for uh the israelis and it is important for the israelis to this uh moment to get gas so they can supply. Europe where they have cut off iran and they have cut off russia from the market, so this is another a thing that is at hand, yes the israelis are racist, the israelis um are islamophobic and the israelis are colonizers, but they are also trying to fulfill the economic projects of of uh tel aviv and washington and and brussels, thats also very important to point out. Right, and shabir would diplomacy work in case of the israely regime, because they are asking for a lasting. Peace, the katatari amir and other officials saying the only solution is lasting peace, but how could you ever sit a negotiating table with zist officials . They adhere to nothing, how how would they when they if they sign an agreement, would they stick to it, what guarantee do you have, would diplomacy work, because one of them was saying that this diplomacy did work like between for example of lebanon and israel, they had over the maritime dispute they had, iran and. Okay, what about israelis and palestinians . Would diplomacy work in the case of israel . If i see someone sitting a table with the zionist, im looking at two zionists essentially. You cant have diplomacy with the zionist regime, the zionist regime in and of itself, if you look at you, their own words, the looks the plans their defense ministers for example, they have the idea of a greater israel, in fact theyre actively flaunting it, greater israels into egypt. It extends into syria, extends into saudi arabia, this is theyre telling you what their plans are, so i im not really sure why anyone would want to sit a negotiating table with their future potential murderer, you know, it makes no sense, um, the the occupation regime again, is politically backed by the United States, so even if it does go to execute these grands, these grand plans of maybe even invading saudi arabia, syria, jordan, what have you, right . It would have the full political and military backing of the United States, there is no. Negotiating with someone that is actively admitting that they have plans to kill you, exactly. Now richard, what about accountability, what about justice . I was talking to International Law, human rights lawyer, and he was a stressing that we need justice, okay, how, what mechanism . Who can do what in the face of all these violence, blood shit, ethnic cleansing and genocide thats happening against palestinians, which court, which tribunal can do something to bring Israeli Regime to . Justice . Well, i i remember when i was uh covering the uh International Criminal courts decision to to declare jurisdiction over palestine and occupied territories, meaning that they were now ready to to bring netanyahu and others uh like him to justice. The of course as usual the israelis First Response was that this is antisemitic and its targeting as they call it the the only jewish state in the world for which is ridiculous because the International Court does not target uh countries or entities or organizations, it targets individuals, meaning netanyahu and his generals, so there there is one prospect of that happening, but i i honestly i dont see it, ever, you know, coming to fruition, because the iccc, the only thing its accomplished so far is to go after African Leaders and you know uh maybe people from yugoslavia, and thats it, and its largely been seen as a defunct um obsolete uh institution because it never. You now held george bush or tony blair or netanyahu or or any of these western and israeli leaders to account for what they have done and they are certainly the biggest criminals on the face of the planet. So you know this brings us to the other aspect of things which is if you cant get justice in the courts what do you do uh the you know Um International law is very clear the United Nations charter the Geneva Convention uh which are form the pillars of International Law are clear. They say that if you are invaded you have the right to resist. So this is why hamas are are gorilla fighters but israel doesnt head any of these things and was going all the way today trying to say that nobody is above International Law, humanitarian law must be respected, different onvoys of the Security Council said brazil, others, uae, that nobody can go beyond this, this is violation, yeah, they say it, but they dont, they dont practice it, you know, and and the americans and israeli say they they you implement International Law, honestly there isnt a war crime that israel hasnt committed, exactly, so shabir, will israel again manage to get away with all these crimes . Um, i think one day theyll be held to account, not through the icc, not through the United Nations, certainly, but i think through that the resistance factions who will godwilling, annihilate this entity, i think it will be up to them to actually proceed with what true justice looks like, okay, under their own rulings, all right, richard and shard, we have one minute for each of you, were reaching the end of the show, so uh, let me know what you think uh, is around the. Corner uh for people in gaza . Well, i, i, i really dont know what to say, i just, i keep them in my prayers and i, i hope that people in the west wake up and and put a stop to this, because its their government that are doing this in their names and you know, gaza does not have forever to just wait around for people in the west to you know finally do something, uh, its its a you, really, only, only god can can uh, decide what happens, and and bring these murderers to account um and this is going to be done through the form of Popular Resistance uh you know people in gaza are not are not just going to abandon their homes and leave their homes and tolerate this stuff they have been through hell and they refuse to leave and its the resistance factions that have to take things into their own hands because International Law and International Courts have abandoned them so they leave them no records shabir one minute richard said at best i will leave it to that i cant top that okay thank you so much. Richard metters, journalist and commentator in viena, shaber resvy, political commentator in chicago, and thank you watching this episode of the spotlight, im being your host naj, ill see you next time. حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل israel started two wars on gaza, it resulted in destroying the infrastructure and ruining most fields. Israel has been imposing a siege on this rif for more than seven years, in addition to blocking the crossings and preventing people from traveling. Palestinian women played a significant role in highlighting these issues in media. We as journalists are capable of delivering our message to the world through the culture and the mind energy we have. I havent faced any difficulties, i mean. Palestinian society accepts the woman as part of it, so they even support us, for mind you bright now, to brief that you are strong to be here in this position. The one says that the humanitarian situation in the blocated gaza is tearing on the brink the catastrophe. 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