And of itself a manifestation of the the status of zionism as a social arrangement, essentially it is a dying idea, which is becoming more and more difficult to sustain, you are talking about cruelty on industrial scale to millions of people, being a constant characteristic of zionism, and that is becoming harder and harder to justify, not. Only to the world, but also even to the people that israel relies upon for human material. We look at the recent situation, you saw flights coming from germany, from uh, bulgaria, from other countries in europe, to come and collect people and take them out of of the political entity uh known as israel, and that was because this is becoming more and more. Um of tenuous situation by the day and a harder to sustain situation, so the palestinian story is essentially story of staying power, and at the moment it seems like the aim is to try and move up to 1. 1 Million People out of ghazzah and put them into the sionide desert where some form of tense city would be put there for them according to israeli officials okay so stay with me stay with me going to get to that part of it, but let me get shabir in on this discussion, shabir, the zionist regime has bombed you in facilities, amulens as journalists, people who were leaving via the safe passage corridor, which the regime had guaranteed, mean your comments on this as each and every one of these actions is a war crime, isnt it . Yes, mean if you look at uh the actual you know start of the israeli. That and of itself is the war crime, the entire idea of israel has been a war crime uh from start to the very you know actions that we see carried out today. In fact, the last time i checked, um, according to the gaza health ministry, 50 entire families are now wiped out from the ministry, from the ghaza health ministry, and top of that, as you mentioned, they are targeting journalists, not only in glas, but also as we see of yesterday, a journalist for bruders was. Wouldnt even mention the name israel, so you see the exact amount of power that the zionist lobby has to the point where members of un humanitarian missions are being killed, journalists are being killed, but none of these western um organizations or these or these organizations that are popped up by the west will even go so far as wag finger at israel, so you see the exact power of the zionist lobby while meanwile the rest of the world what we would call the global south, shes exactly what israel is, its a dangerous political entity, we do need to stress the fact that is a political entity, and its committing uh ethnic cleansing before our very eyes, while western governments sit back and do nothing, in fact some western governments have gone so far as even encouraging it and writing a quote on quote political blank check to the zionist regime allowing them to wipe out families for example, well do you think that the israel are playing psychological game as well on the palestinas, you had mentioned about the uh 1. 1 or 1. 2 Million People that theyve ordered to leave from the north to go to the south, um and of course its total chaos and uh, as i had said earlier, even the safe passage was even bombed, so what does it all mean . What do you think theyre trying to do . Well, essentially israel is trying to extract some form of. Um price on what actually took place, which was the stability of the idea was massively shaken with. With earthquake, you know, when we look at the rome statute of the International Criminal court, the crime of genocide is actually defined as deliberately inflicting a group of a group, conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in hole or in part, well when we look at the depriving of a civilian population of electricity, food and water, water for which you cannot live for longer than three days without, then that certainly fits in the International Criminal courts definition of genocide, when we look at the geneva con definition of willful killings as a war crime, according to article 8, the uh, it would definitely measure up to what israel has practiced, you have for example in article 8, torture and inhuman treatment in the geneva conventions, what israel has done since the 7th of october would certainly qualify in that way when we talk about the severe psychological suffering that palestinians have had, this is nothing short of collective. Is is telling people not to leave their homes in the north as this is a trick by the zionist regime to cause new nakbah. It says that the regime want palestinians to evacuate their homes and destroy them and create a situation where they will never be able to return to their homes and land again. Your thoughts about this . Yeah, as we saw yesterday, families did try to eva actuate and actually take the uh take the warning as is and what we saw was that very uh humanitary that that group of people actually through that corridor be annihilated by israeli air strikes, where are these people expected to go where if theyre being asked to retreat from the north on their way to the south they get slaughtered, if they stay in the north they get slaughtered, if they if they move south they get slaughtered, in fact the ruffle crossing itself has been bombed repeatedly uh areas towards it, um these people are attracked. And the water has been turned off, and now they can say, for example that they turned on some aspects of water, you need electricity to run the water in gaza, and the electricity is, they still have no energy there, they have no electricity, so this is just somewhat you know kind of pandering to the to some of the humanitarian quote on quote, voices in the west that theyre asking to turn on water and that they actually capitalated, but the reality is they didnt, the reality is on the ground they are carrying out ethnic cleansing, carrying out genocide and i think you know what hamas said to that this is psychological warfare that theyre trying to trick you, theyre absolutely correct because they did try to evacuate and they were slaughtered. I mean uh kentim, if we look at the situation, even hospitals have been bombed, and now uh hospitals are told those that in northern gaza that they have to relocate supplies of few, hospitals overcrowded, people being treated on the floor, and feel. With critical patients, i mean, what does that mean when the Israeli Regime tells the hospital staff to relocate to the south . Well, essentially its a threat because its saying that if you do not leave, when we attack the hospital, you will be hurt, and lets be clear, israel has form, it has bombed several hospitals during this Campaign Including a dura hospital, which is a childrens hospital, supposed with white phosphorus, which of course is a prohibited weapon, so we are talking about war crime upon war crime, but what we are seeing is that israel needs asymmetric warfare of striking from the air, it seems to fear the Ground Invasion which it has threatened for a long time, and it seems to be trying to use the threat of the Ground Invasion as a bargaining chip with which. It may be able to extract the prisoners of war who are in ghaza and lets remember that israel up till now since the 7th of october has killed around 26th 26 of the people that were taken captive, it has killed 26 israels in the air strikes on gazza. Is this the application of the hannibal directives which we know exists with in the Israeli Military . Time will of course tell, but you are seeing reports. From those who were taken um as captives um from within the green line saying that others who were with them were killed, other hostages who were with them or prisoners of war were killed by the israeli forces, so what does that do even our perception of what is the death toll . Israel claims to have the bodies of 1,500 palestinian fighters from the uh resistance factions within the green line, do we know the conditions . Within which they were killed, of course aljazera has produced a investigation which found some palestinians within the green line being killed um who were unarmed. Um and had their hands up, of course theres been other um investigations that have found similar evidence, so the question is is is open, you know, there are likely to be many palestinians stuck under the rubble now as we speak, so even our perception of the death toll is massively skewed, i would argue. Uh, shabir, when, while all eyes have been on gaza, palestinians and the west bank have been going through their own hell, aggressive and increase israel patrols and raids are in place, and theres a lockdown on palestinian areas with over 50 palestinians having been killed and 500, over 500 arrested since the increase aggression began. Your take, where where do you think the situation is going on the west bank . Yeah, i think the Occupation Forces are definitely increasing their hostilities towards towards the palestinians in those areas and actually if you look at some of the videos of of the palestinians being murdered there, you see its actually settler accompanied violence, i believe there was a video that came out of settler with a gun who shoots uh a palestinian man thats missing an arm already point blank and hes accompanied by uh occupation of forces so i think this is a time where were also going to see lot of settler violence in the area the settlers are more than likely take this advantage take this time to take advantage of the situation and harass palestinians assault them more brutally uh fight them uh do what they have. Have been doing, but now uh with more further Occupation Forces um protection to allow them to get away with these horrific crimes. Um, i think what we also can expect from the west bank is its own form of resistance, as weve been seeing uh, not only in the form of uh civil resistance, as weve seen a lot of street protes, but resistance fighters also taking action against the Occupation Forces, heroically combatting them in the streets, heroically taking shots at them wherever they can, a company. With of course uh in between all these acts um protest that we see, i believe we saw protest at rubber for example, among other acts of disobedience, because people are not going to sit around and just allow israel to get away with ethnic cleansing, theyre not going to tolerate uh an entire population being genocided before their eyes. Well, candy weve been seeing uh more aggression by the israelis towards southern lebanon also, and hezbollah has responded. Today by hitting five israeli bases in the occupied territories, do you think that this war is expanding . Without a doubt the war has expanded not just regionally but internationally with the british sending spy plane which they operate themselves over the top of occupied palestine, also the us sending several warships essentially as a warning to any people of conscience in the world who would hope to come to the aid of. The palestinians, but essentially all of that is attempt to delay the inevitable. As as i was saying about the invasion or the the potentially imminent invasion of ghazza, the Israeli Military traditionally only has about 160,000 personnel within it. It has now claimed to have called up 200,000 people from the reserve military, that means theyve taken 200,000 people out of the traditional economy, that as well. As well as the disabling of bengian airport will have Major Economic ramifications and that can be seen on the israeli stock market, but in terms of the push uh with lebanon, israel is now claiming that it can fight this war on two fronts, since the beginning, it has bombed syria, it has bombed lebanon and it has bombed of course gazza, and as was said you have seen around 50 people in the west bank. Be killed too, but what israel knows is that in lebanon there is a far more experienced and essentially wellarmed fighting force that israel fears, so can israel really deal with um the exertion of force it will take in the west bank as well as a ground occupation of ghaza as well as um major moves from the south of. On in the north of palestine, would israel be able to withstand that, economically speaking, would it be able to convince uh the settler population that what it was doing was somehow justifiable, im not sure, you would certainly see the society fall into chaos very swiftly, well shabir um irans foreign minister has said that iran cannot remain a bystander while israel is committing massacres against the palestinians. What do you think that this could mean and and are we likely to see a wider scenario in dealing with this war . Yeah, iran has lot of options on the table right now for when it says, uh it will not stand eitherly by uh few of those would be you know us military bases that are located across iraq across syria across the region really so if we want to talk target uh the United States has set itself up to be target throughout all of these regions so that could be one possibility of uh iran getting involved another would be um arming up its forces um pushing them in the ground war uh not necessary. Its army, but of course sepa or the irgc would more than happy be able to you back up its forces in syria, for example, and then of course not just iran, but theres other you know people from the axis of the resistance ready to fight too, of course we have in yemen and pledged their full support to the palestinian cause, waiting and letting people know that they are ready to strike back against the israeli entity, we have in the north has we know the the iran foreign minister has met with uh just few hours ago um who are also as you said ready to fight back against the israeli entity so i think we could see a whole regional axis fight israel within within possibly hours to the next few days even well you mentioned about what the us and the uk uh basically are doing and uh continuing trying to help uh this regime against uh humanity basically. I mean, lets look at this, this uh perspective, whats going on, and this total uh lack of any kind of humanity and openly showing it, um, but at the same time we also see movements, major movements inside the uk and inside of the u. S. By the people, um, actually demanding a change from their governments and also. Demanding that israel stops it genocide, so i want to look at both sides of that. Well, essentially what you have seen over the past few decades, is the complete integration of the military and security states of britain, the United States and israel, this is essentially a trilateral force which is able to project its power into these societies, and really britain has shown just how deeply integrated it is. With the Israeli Military establishment, even in comparison to Something Like 10 years ago or 15 years ago, its far more deeply um integrated with israel, and so therefore you are seeing the attempt to crack down on peoples ability to stand with the palestinians in this society. You are seeing the targeting of those who are prominent in their support for the palestinians, you are seeing attempts to really have even waving the. Palestinian flag be open to interpretation as possibly a criminal offense by this particular government that we have here. Now you have hundreds of thousands of people at least within British Society who feel a deeply emotional affinity with the Palestinian People, and of course thats a drop in the ocean when compared to the rest the world. The majority of states in the world came about through a process of decolon. Colonization, they are former colonial states, they the formerly colonized states, they relate to the palestinians as as seeing themselves as postcolonial subjects, they see themselves in the palestinians, they have this deep affinity with them, and of course britain as a country that occupied 14. 7 million square miles of the planet, has people from all around the world in it, particularly in the capital and other big cities, and these are people who will not let go of palestine easily, they are they are people that in this country who would be willing ultimately to face legal um sanction by the government for standing with palestine, it wouldnt be the first time, it has happened before, and people would be willing to do it. You also see inspiring movements in this country shutting down. Israeli arms factories, so while the political system and the military and intelligence establishment goes one way, i would say that members of the public generally are going the other way, zionism as a top heavy movement is rarely successful at winning hearts and minds and this uh campaign has been another example of that failure. Well shabir um do you think the equation in palestine has changed forever since october . 7, because before that, of course, the zionist regime always tried to portray itself as invincible, and also had very good control um over uh pr if you want to call it that, but theyre really beginning to lose that front also. I mean, your take on that, has it changed forever . I think without a doubt its been changed forever. The bloody knows that the zionist regime has been dealt uh a uh since last week uh, it it cant be clean. Um, as you see, with the ongoing operation, led by all factions of the palestinian resistance, uh, israel is having a hard time containing this. Um, theyre resorting even thinking about a grand war in gaza, which if you asked them a month ago, they would have never even thought was was on the table, really, as far as pr goes, we do see, at least across the west, the unified effort of state, of heads of state, of media, of influencers and celebrities coming out in unison trying to do pr essentially for the zionist regime, but as you can see with the millions of people across the world emerging out of the streets and for example, just here in chicago we had 10,000 people uh show up yesterday for a palestine rally, another 1000 on wednesday and 15,00 people uh exactly seven days ago, you know, no matter what unified effort is being made to clean up uh for for the zionist uh crimes of of war and ethnic cleansing, the people stand with palestine easily, without a doubt um these narratives are being openly challenged um and its going as far as you know state accounts of israel using ai generated images um to try to convince the people that you know theyre the victim of this, when in reality uh the Palestinian People have been under attack uh since by the zinest regime since 1948 and even beyond that with british colonialism. All right, and on that note, thank you both for being with me, karim dennis, activist, rapper and host of the watchdog podcast out of london, should be risvy political commentator out of chicago, and as always we appreciate you being with us on another spotlight, im marsia hashimi, signing out for myself and other group right here in tehran, see you next time, uh, we are going to take a look at whats happening in the ghaza strip, it because its being um bombed uh as well. As we can see in the skyline there in the gaza strip, an area there has been bombed, the plums of black smoke are testament to that uh, so the Bombing Campaign um is continuing, it has continued, um, it may have slowed a little bit based on uh the hours that began this day, but um israel is adament to continue with the Bombing Campaign, uh, this kind of defies the logic of how he wants also for palestinians to uh mobilize and move from the north to the south, which does make sense, but i think palestinians are seeing through the type of warning that israel has issued, there have been many palestinians have made it to the south, but to mobilize that many, especially when theres women and children, many to uh either have been wounded, many who um are not privy to having the basic necessities for living, and that type of request is just been uh ruled out based on Even International organizations like the un saying that its just impossible. Uh so um this bombing that we were seeing right now is proof of the fact that israel um maybe just wants to pull palestinians uh in some respect uh wants to pull palestinians out from the hiding that they have from the little cover that they have and uh then to target them one of the most severe instances of uh israel doing that of many was this convoy which uh has made us rounds in social media particularly but also has made it to the news. Where so many people aboard a convoy heading from the north to the south was targeted by israel, israel has uh said that it will look into it, but pictures uh are proof of the fact that israel did indeed target it and uh so many people died as a result, and thats the type of thing that um not only makes many palestinians um hesitate to move from the north to the south, but also uh many saying that thats the type of regime that were dealing with in terms of the brutality uh that it is uh exercising on the. Palestinians, this particular area that they have hit uh obviously um either its a large area or uh it is uh is a place that has some kind of uh maybe combustible material in there uh its close to the sea and we know that theres a some of these attack boats by hamas that are in that area or the other resistance fighters that have uh gasoline on them if theres any even left i dont think theres any gasoline left based on the reports we have so um um we have to see where where they have targeted at this point uh the development the developments there in the ghaza strip uh in particular about the rafa Border Crossing is of note and uh also we have uh the fact that the a thousand children now have been uh killed which we now have ash correspondent joining us to tell us more about that theres a couple Key Developments but the one that is uh shocking is the ones about the kids ash do you have my voice okay we dont have yet uh the shocking uh report that came out is uh regarding the children that i spoke about here uh want ashaf, are you with us . We dont have ash yet, do apologize for that, so ill continue until we get that uh confirmed about what the hamamas Spokes Person hasm has said. Israeli occupation based on the statement that has come from him, committing genocide as 1, out of 2700 marters are children, that is what the hamamas spokesperson has said, and uh, if youre with us, can you confirm that piece of news . What the ash shanan, are you with us . I guess its hard to establish connection sometimes because of the state of affairs, im sure you will understand, we dont have ashin as of yet. Ashref, if you hear me talking, you could jump in at any time um as im talking about the developments there in the in the ghaza strep, another major another Major Development has to deal as i mentioned about the rafa Border Crossing, where the disconnect is there, it remains to be seen, but there is no opening there, the rafa Border Crossing based on israel denying that there has been one agreed upon and also hamas um rejecting that uh but the us secretary of state made that announcement when the day began and therefore uh uh that was reported widely but at this point that that has not happened uh yesterday there was news that it was going to happen yesterday uh the us said that it wants to get some of its citizens and dual nationals uh out of the ghaza strip through the rafa Border Crossing. But uh that has not happened as of yet. What has happened is the Bombing Campaign uh has continued the israeli war planes are intensifying their strikes uh on gaza city. We came in uh to show you that uh this particular um i guess bomb that was dropped uh whether it was their through the sea or whether it was through their tanks or through their