But it could it couldnt be anything further than the truth there. Um, tell us your initial thoughts on this operation by the name of alqot flood. Thank you very much. This is not a merely an operation, because this is the we can call it as the cross border or border cross operation for the first time after many years, you know, because Israel Government itself regime say that produce a meeth, that invincible meth. Merely with wall call it iron dam and it was not destroyable right now we can see that this this wall is simless and its better to say that its suspected and all of the world of of especially the partner and the the the states that they have tie israel uh such as security ties, Defense System and others has to reing and value the tie with this right because you know because where is country intelligal this morning and where is iron dam . So it means that there is a big hole in all your Security System in in israel, mean me, this is the fact, the second is they have the very vast survillance system, they cross the borders, mean the the the people of hamas, they cross the borders, they fears more than 5000 workers, and this is not only stock point, definitely have. Maybe 10 times more than this, and after that they captive more than 50 people, one of them is, one of them is top brass, i think, not only senior officer, so what is israel right now, and israel, mr. Netanyahu is trying to make a unification with people, and these people from the february, till now they are the street, they are not, they are not supporting the israel regime, they are against israel, so its better to say that that was the best time for hamas to do this operation, crossward operation, and i believe that this is the ace for them, yeah, this is for your first question, yeah, okay, yeah, were going to continue this conversation obviously, um, taking a look at what has happened in terms of the depth of this operation, the numbers speak for themselves, i mean, you would have never imagined, not that we promote the killing of any one, but when you have uh 40 israels that have been killed in 700. 50 injured, when theres a possibility of 50 uh Israeli Soldiers to be in captivity, we know five or six for sure have been confirmed, and basically looking at 1,00 palestinians to have crossed on over into israel, where theres 21 locations inside of israel, of which clashes may be taking place at some of these locations, these are unprecedented events that are taking place, uh, tell us uh your thoughts on that and and what that shows . Gaza has been under constant bloccade, apartite in the literal sense, these walls they prevent, they give israel complete control of what goes in and what goes out, this includes food, water, medicine, people with cancer, they have to go through this like special checkpoints where theyre literally harassed for hours on on end, so the fact that they broke through one of these barbed wire, areas is amazing because this shows to israel that their bloccade cannot be permanent. Top of the blockade somehow settlers from the other side keep coming in and settling in gazan territory. Um, so we know what is israels plan is, and its not a very very pretty picture in the future. So it first thing it shows is that israel is, this cannot happen, and the fact that few. Senior officers were captured shows that israels military is not as good as its advised and i dont know if you know this but read a book called empire of borders by todd miller and he explained how israel often uses palestine as a weapons testing ground to sell their weapons and this might also impact some of their more customers who will lose confidence in israels weapons too so those are the main consequences um the war might escalate but hopefully if somehow the more of the wall is somehow broken down the block arcade may be impossible to continue, and with that many palestinians will be able to get basics like water, food, medicine that israel has been blockading for over decade now, well freshly the when you take a look at what has transpired, um, its very hard, if not impossible to think that things are going to go back to the to the way it was, previous wars did not result in what were looking at right now, and when you had have 40 israelis killed and when you have so many israelis who are now in captivity um it doesnt sound like there is even a room for negotiation mean theres not a theres not a happy median here that can be reached when this is over um based on uh what were looking at in terms of the stats um what what kind what form is the future going to take uh when it comes to the two sides do you think . This this operation, mean this morning operation is not an ambush because they war in before because somehow against the violence, against the secoration thelak mask and its already been war the regime with such kind of the mean operation, and the remark is for the cross, the israel regime, they call for the reserve force. This is it means that the escalation and agree with the other guests that the escalation is not foreseen, nobody can stop the escalation right now, and if you can see right now mr. Netanyahu trying to use it for unification, but i believe that the cabinet itself, maybe the they will reduce the authority of or responsibility of mr. Natal for this kind of, i mean such this kind of war or engagement. Because this is not, this is not easiest thing, because the are look at the the express express of the authority of the hamas, this will spread over all on the world, this is all around the region, this is not the only war between hamas, and israel, it will affect all the region, so believe me, nobody can imagine what will be tomorrow regarding this war, because very, it is the first time they have capsities more than 40. Maybe 50 people, this they they can they can put this captivis in all the important and precise points, so for this reason the israel cannot bombardment on that one, and they will stop the bombardment, if you if they use, mean the best way, use of this captivity, so i believe that i cannot imagine how will be tomorrow for kind of war, and actually the response of the israel, the regime would be brutal. And this kind of brutality will um will make some make a sense, a big sense or maybe a public mind around the world to stop such kind of war, stop, stop, mean flooding to stop blood and blooding and anything, so this is very bad situation for the world and nobody can stop this, all right, yeah, lets get an idea about how strong of of an impact this is made uh in terms of the uh ferociousness of the operation that took place, were going to now take a uh listen to a fox News Reporter uh in the occupied palestinian territories, lets see what he had to say based on his vantage point, you are on me, no, no, no, i cant hear him, yeah, here, but it is very. Very bad situation, there are a lot of things i cant report right now because of operational security, but things are very, very bad along the gaza border, small arms fire, continued rocket fire into southern and central israel, soldiers doing what they can to hold lines around here, but it is very, very bad situation, one of the worst that ive seen between israel and gaza. Okay, i dont know if you caught that issue, im going to come to you with that, in terms of what uh this particular reporter was saying. To give a sensus to uh the depth of this operation, in particular where he was at, where he said he wasnt sure whether the Israeli Regime forces could hold up to the uh onslot, we know that theres uh 21 locations. That uh the resistance fighters are actually in, now as to the Details Behind what each location entils in terms of the fighting, were not sure, but uh, is is this what it has, it it had had to actually come down to for the resistance fighters to accumulate their firepower as they have been after each war, theyve gone, theyve been been stronger, and here were seeing the depth of their strength, firepower, even drones that have uh targeted israeli tanks and and vehicles, um, it does sound like israel uh really has what it would take in order to thwart this type of operation, based on just what we heard from that uh reporter, they were certainly not prepared, and yeah, for for somehow they have managed to get lot of weapons and sometimes i wonder with the drones, did they were they able to reverse engineer fallen israeli drone um, and i think this was necessary because theyve tried everything else, theyve tried appealing to un, theyve tried appealing man multiple times, theyve tried appealing to every government around in the world, practically everyone, and there are two kinds of responses, the us, uk, where they just ignore them, and the other governments that meet them and say yes, yes, we agree with this injustice, but dont take any steps to help them, so um, what else . Can they do, because it even the Un Human Rights Commission has admitted that gaza is almost like an open air prison and israel bloccades all sides in all sorts of ways and it also devastates the economy, israel gets to decide how many blankets goes in and israel gets to decide whether or not video games go in, and so because of that they can really mess with the prices and things are very expensive and and jobs are hard to economically devastated, physically, they dont get treatments for things that can be treated, not three kilometers away, and so there is other way other than to make the border wall falls so that the blocket israel can enforce the this almost, hate to say it, genocidal nature. Before i get to you far sheet, the hamas deputy chief saluri, yeah, he has said, this is an allout battle, not a hidden run operation, we started this battle, we expect fighting to continue and the fighting front to expand, we have one prime target, our freedom and the freedom of our holy sites. Given that, and whats been said here, as long as they adhere to that, why is it that were getting quite the opposite type . Of reaction from uh the us, from European Countries uh where its just a onesided narrative, why have they failed to see the palestinian side, really . Yeah, yes, thats for yeah, great, yeah, definitely United States and the european country, but some of European Countries to support the israel, because of the antisemitism, rules and rights. Thats the fact, but you know, first of all, israel was first recover this reputation of country intelligence, because he lost, the second, not only, not only for the for for the for itself, even for the European Countries, even because you know, recently they had an agreement with the germany, up to five billion dollar for iron dam, definitely germany after this such this operation they will suspect this. This mean agreement and they have to recover the reputation second they have to send some rescue team for salvation of the captivis and it will cause gorilla war. The most important point of this war is because after this carpet bombardment you know this kind of bombard we call carpet and first time call in power during the bagdad irak war us especially in the. And they are trying to to have a card, aimless, just bombardment, they will stop it, because there is captivis in ghaza, ghaza is not a very best place, small place, something about a thous kilometers, one thous kilometers, third, mean the government, this very important thing that the government right now, government has no public support, and with this kind of public support even even the you have the support of the United States, even you have support the european, has nothing, because nitan has no support by the by the and he is. Try to to to render this this operation to some raise of the nationality and nationalism and to use it for unification, but it be fail, but you know definitely you can, you can expect the United States support and the some European Countries, but after the the fail of the operation and rendered it from the capable moment to the antigorilla, the european country will send their views that its better to stop the war, better to stop the operation and everybody must apply for the temperance, and this is very important point, temperance, especially self temperance, but this is war and we cannot expect what what we have, we will have have to see tomorrow, this is very important thing, now believe me, i cannot imagine. All right, were going to now uh reshow the um captive is really soldier, this has made us rounds on social media and there is confirmation that he has been captured, if we can uh take a look as to uh that particular image that you see there to the left, is him in uh happyer times and on the right where he has been captured by the uh Palestinian Resistance fight. Uh this uh he is one of uh at least five Israeli Soldiers in this case and point hes a general to have been captured where there could be lot more than that there have been reports of 50 israelis to be captured settlers to be parts of that captivity along with Israeli Military officials but for sure he is one of them and you can see there on the right that that the state that he was in, well thats as of maybe four hours ago, so 50 is released to have been captured, as i just mentioned here, the number of uh once the numbers in terms of the military personnel, at least five or maybe six, our correspondent did confirm that, but it could be higher because youve had the uh hamas deputy chief come out and say that not only have there been large number but also uh Senior Officers uh krishna swami, this all plays into the uh, guess way that the negotiations got to transpire, when you have these uh numbers in captivity, but theres so many that uh, im not too sure how thats going to work out, because uh, if all goes well, with all these numbers in the resistance fighters to to hold, that hopefully the. Gets palestine back, because the the numbers are pretty high, what do you think . I think thats the thats the idea, there are thousands of palestinian prisoners who are in military jails in israel, which if israel were not an aparthide country, they would be tried in the civilian, civilian courts, but every palestinian, no matter what the crime is is always tried in a military court, um, so Good Exchange and and it really depends on how high value, this is general nimbrad aloni, and it looks like he had led operations in gaza in the prayer years and so it how much theyre willing to trade for this high ranking general really depends on how much he is worth to israel and Israeli Intelligence and his experience um and also whether or not uh wants to get some Good Press Coverage uh, so um, i also see um them trying to do a commando style rescue operation too, with having a heart stancing, we will not negotiate with terrorist, i think that would be a mistake and it would be much bloodier, but i can see that happening, and i can see um that being very bloody and it might kill everyone, including the hostages. Thereby defeating israels first point, so they might do either or or we just have to wait and see. Sure, also an update here in terms of the number of rockets that have been fired, 7,000 so far. Farashed i ask our one of our guests prior as to what would happen if this uh particular operation thats being executed or war as we should really call it, if it was to be an extended one, what are the chances of uh, because if its extended one, there could be increase in the number of fatalities, from either side, what are the chances of regional countries being pulled into this . I mean, remember the last time that germany. Was the moderator of the mean solving the captivity issue and this time i believe that germany would not defer to this subject because its very different i mean the scale of this operation is very different because the first time is as told before board the cross and i mentioned that 5000 rocket in 20 minutes is not the old stock file of the amad nobody can guess how many other rockets they have in their arsenal, so after this bombardment, definitely maybe in then in midnight they use and they try to use the others, so it means that all the other countries, instead of sending messages is better to helping to solving the the right of the oppos people, the people of palestine, because their land and their i mean, i mean their country occupied by another state and they are right now giving legitimacy to this occupation and this kind of support to israel is giving legitimacy to occupation and cannot i dont know what to have to say legitimacy to occupation and the that we have National Security we have mean bm and mr. What you will do with the next step to this occupation because right now i have the figures that 150 more than 150 People Killed in the frontier the hamas right and this is innocent people believe me they are innocent they are not soldiers and they involved to this kind of war get involved so its better to say send advices better sand support, its better to send all the messages through twitter, th and others, its better, many countries, many states send their envoys to the region physically to resolve the problem, that is the fact, believe me, in my mind there is other kind of solution for kind of, mean struggle between humanity and occupation, anyway, thank you, well that thats a point that you make there, its worth discussing with you, if i may ask you, as we look at the death toll for the israely side to now be announced officially by israeli media to have reached 100, on the palestinian side, you have 200, um, which is unfortunate, but it shows that uh this is obviously taking a heavy toll of course for both sides, but for the israeli side, its uh, its pretty severe, something that israel has not experienced in quite some time, um, do you think . Do you think the role other countries, what kind of role other countries are playing in this asia in terms of advising israel as to what to do . We know the us reaction, aside from mostly European Countries and the us saying israel has a right to defend itself, the pentagon has come out and said that we will ensure that israel has what it needs to defend itself, but i mean um you know its not like uh the old resistance uh fighters and their uh firepower, were looking at something that they now can exert um 100 casualties on the israeli side, so do you think that theyre still still going to continue with that type of approach in mind, an offensive military one . I dont know, it really depends on how many weapons they have in their reserves and how theyre getting it, im still at a loss, because i cant figure it out, maybe for next time i can, um, so i think if they have the weapons they should probably do the war, continue the war as much as possible, because we know theres no other way, because that is part of israels founding plan is to grab this, this land on behalf of whatever they can whoever they consider their god, um, its what the zionist wanted, the zionist in the original zionist congress, they wanted to be a colonial, settler colonial colony like the bride. So they never wanted for european jews, so they never wanted any kind, not just to live in this land and be happy with the people in the land, so that is the part of the zinus project, and and how do you transition from that mindset to a mindset that we are all here in this land and we have to use it and share it together and get equal voices and that is a challenge and militarily definitely, if its possible, it can be, but right now we have three new players in the International Ring as so so as speak that we didnt have before, we have china, india, russia, oh four and iran, and so russia has already warned israel earlier this year that they will not be tolerating any more incursions into certain areas, so russia has indicated that its not happy with israel and its not going to allow israel to do certain kinds of things, and israel has been no, no, regardless of how much they claim, or how much they use the history of the holocaust . Israel has been caught redhanded in 2018 training ukrainian azav militants who are the worst antisemites in the world, theyve done the worst of the worst, its unimaginable. So with these kind of things, it seems like theyve made their enemies, but other people have made, they have kept their other people have made new friends that are stronger, so maybe there is a possibility. For negotiated settlement, but israel needs to feel necessary even come to the negotiating table which they have not felt in over maybe 30 years. Its still uh, im curious fashid, what type of approach is going to be used here, when you have um about 50 israels that have been captured, yeah um, and if this offensive on the ghaza strip continues, and and more palestinians are. Getting killed, which we know israel is being supported by the us in terms of its military equipment and obviously with what it has currently and as the penegos said is going to provided with any more if it needs it, that as the uh as the death toll mounts on the palestinian side, im just speculating here that then you have these 50 captives, israeli captives, so uh, isnt isnt that going to endanger the lives of the ones that are in captivity . And therefore open it opening up uh a criticism against israel if it continues with this offensive, if you see where im going with this, what do you think will happen there . Really, i have only one or two sentences that better to say that the response of this operation by by part of israel regime would be brutal, it means that the casualty, the figure of the casualty would be higher, you know, so the best is the world. The word itself, mean the word concept of state, they say that they are, they have the idea for the human rights anyway, say remorse for human r to send to send envoys to stop the the casualties, humanitarian, mean casualties, because you know by means of the