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Watch it now hello, this is the Meeting Place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear, i am andrey norkin, my colleague ivan trushkin, we are working live, today, as you know, voting in the president ial elections of the Russian Federation has begun, it will last for 3 days, march 15, 16, 17, if i. Look, lets give some numbers, and that means , together with ivan sergeevichs vote , it turned out to be 2 Million People, almost, these are those who voted electronically, this is through government services, yes, but in general, again, this is the data from the ministry of turnout, well, experts say that turnout in in general, very, very decent, taking into account the whole country after, with it has already been more than 7 and a half since the opening of the first sites in the far east. Percent of those who voted in our country, there are more than 94 thousand voting stations, the Central Election Commission prepared almost 114 million ballots, early voting has already taken place in 42 regions, about 2 Million People also took part there, well, naturally there is high activity in new territories, here we are for you now the dpr figures from the zaporozhye region showed that almost half of all voters in the kherson region voted early, a total of more than 58. And fakes about how voting is going on here , pyotr andryushchenko, a former adviser to the mayor of mariupol who fled to ukraine so long ago , said that in the liberated territories people are forced to vote practically at gunpoint, well, he published this photo, of course its a fake , because it is obvious that in the new territories, for obvious reasons, security measures at polling stations have indeed been increased, but this was done only so that people could freely come to make their choice, others telegram channels. They tried to pass it off as ballot stuffing, we can look, yes, this is the photo, they claim these fakes, that this photo was taken in voronezh, and if you look closely, you can see a ballot box, transparent, and supposedly they were noticed there even before the opening of the voting point, the actual ballots were already noticed, the deputy chairman of the voronezh region Election Commission reacted very quickly to this, she called the photographs fake and published a video in which they are visible, in fact, here you see the real thing. Nikolay bulaev in rostov and karachaycherkessia they tried to pour ink into the ballot boxes in order to spoil the ballots that are in these ballot boxes. In addition, ella ponfilova stated that in st. Petersburg and other regions certain people have appeared at polling stations who show accreditations, fake accreditations of the media and are trying to commit some illegal actions on this basis. Well, according to the head. Let me remind you once again that on sunday we will have a lot of unusual and interesting things on air, even our program in sunday will also appear on the air, later in the evening, now lets go back to our traditional agenda, we need to somehow sort out a personal matter. Since the beginning of the week, macrons interview has been announced on a grand scale, discussing a possible military alliance between france and the baltic states, the introduction of french troops into ukraine, and even a possible nuclear war with russia. Most of all, macrons speech was expected in kiev, but the french leader did not live up to expectations. On air, he staged demagoguery, spoke vaguely, when asked about sending troops responded to ukraine evasively, stating that paris does not seek escalation with russia. The general gist of the halfhour interview came down. Ukraine and even named the specific city odessa. The title of the article says quote macron turns from a dove into a hawk. On the night of february 21, in the portrait hall, Emmanuel Macron makes a toast to the guests, holding a glass of whiskey in his hand. In any case, in the coming year i will have to send some guys to odessa. Today this french hawk is traveling to berlin to meet with german chancellor scholz and the polish Prime Minister of the tus. Whom a couple of weeks ago he accused of cowardice due to his reluctance to increase assistance to ukraine and enter into direct conflict with russia. Now the whole trio will try to develop a common position. The press believes that this will be a show of visibility, of unity. I think what could have contributed to the reconciliation between france and germany is that olaf scholz agreed to supply the taurus. This is one of the key issues in the recent francogerman disagreements, but in general. They always find a compromise in order to at least create the appearance of agreement. Scholz before the meeting with macron has already been pretty frayed in the bundestag. Mps again rejected the oppositions supply initiative. So, well, the upcoming meeting with scholz a little later, after all, according to the statements of the president of france, because maxim anatolyevich really turns out somehow a little unclear to me, that is, the mont newspaper, before this interview, is not the latest french media, no matter what he tells us our beloved andrei vladimerovich fedorov, they say you dont need to read the western press, so they say, look 3 weeks ago. President of france, true, for some reason they wrote that he was with a glass of whiskey, somehow for the french president this is not very patriotic, in my opinion, hes about to send someone to odessa, we turn on the tv, and he says, that means well, its almost close to the text that france will never take the initiative in a military sense, we are there for peace, i dont understand, i listened to it all live, i listened to it, it took about 45 minutes for him to i was blown away. The regime, this is this regime, the enemy of france, macron, the word is enemy, rejected and said adversary, adversary, this is not a play on words, an enemy is one thing, an adversary is something completely different, and he deliberately did not accept it, but the ukrainians didnt like it, they launched fake ones, and in french, written in correct, good french like this is a report , where macron says that russia is an enemy and promises to send troops, but then it quickly became clear that this is a fake, in short, and briefly, and what else i noticed, i think, i was surprised, because well, its not typical, just like that to such an experienced speaker six times return to the same thought, but he said six times that responsibility for a possible aggravation lies with russia, alternatively with moscow, the kremlin, the putin regime, repeated six times, thats it. Wait, this, this what he is talking about, either he himself is not sure that he has formulated this thought well, or he is not sure that the listeners understand him correctly, so he insists, understands that there will be some kind of provocation, after which he will say , i told you, the responsibility is on them, and now, that means, were going to the east, i i think it was him, since he spoke in front of a french audience, he rather reassured the listeners, because 76 according to one poll, 73 according to. They write that he is turning from a dove into i have no doubt, no, no, just if, if the hawk, this is not a hawk interview, exactly , this is absolutely, someone here has already raised his voice, in my opinion konstantin valentin, why is there such a sudden change, no, i dont remember in what place, but im not, im just i wanted to confirm that you wanted to confirm something, i just made these statements that, repeated six times, that russia is means only one thing, that they are now. Now the question, you understand, is that the situation that is developing now, these are the throwings of macron, the same thing, after all, there were conversations, this trinity has gathered, pay attention, it means france. Germany is the first strategic echelon, so poland is first, germany is second, and france, which is the only nuclear power, so europe, they are now beginning to probe this fist, what will happen next, because the United States of america and the globalists, then you want to say that the french, sitting deep in the rear, are egging them on, let s go ahead, pushing them, i think the point is that this is not the point, i think the point is that well, if brother. A strategy of a slightly higher level, the same globalists or the same states, the anglosaxon axis, they should get involved in largescale now, i ll interrupt you now, its not just that this is drawn here, more about that a little later, okay, were just now lets go away a little, i want vladimirich to voice his opinion, because in the preinterview you they said that macron acted like this internet coach, such a coach, a motivator, he clearly said that russia should not win, he repeated this several times, clearly go fight then, why, its better to motivate, so say, dear french, you understand that a moment may come when, due to the fault of this filthy and bad russia , about which i have already spoken for the seventh time, a moment may come when our troops, dear french, will be forced to defend the ukrainian, france, i love, i will save france, you can bare some breasts and run. Forward in the same place, thats who he gave this motivating speech to, this is a question, perhaps to scholz, well , there are no red lines, now on the eve of the meeting this was said, plus to all this and of course the correspondence dialogue with the president of the Russian Federation, which continues the speech macron, putins statement , macrons speech, this is roughly what it looks like, well , really, its very similar to how they sort things out without negotiations, which. On the one hand, confirm the possibility sending troops, which he did, but on the other hand, to do it in such terms and in such words that do not impose any obligations on him and do not cause unnecessary joys there and corresponding impulses there, lets say, in the ukrainian country, that is, he passed on a very fine line, in fact, he in general, if the ukrainians didnt like it, they started pouring on him, it means he didnt convince them. And he didnt have to convince them, he had to convince us that it was possible, his task, i insist that well, he did Everything Possible for this, his task was to show russia that an invasion is possible, which means moscow must now make some concessions, macron has been systematically trying to push this idea throughout the last days or even weeks, in principle whether or not another question about consistency works out, i dont know, if you listen. Who spoke about 34 hours before macron, he had a big report on security, there was no mention of any troops, there Jens Stoltenberg said that there are good missiles, there are good shells, they are being sent to ukraine, but nothing else was offered. On thursday, nato secretary general Jens Stoltenberg delivered his annual security report, during which he very matteroffactly announced that attacks on the Russian Black Sea fleet were being carried out in the west. Which in the event of a conflict will need to be navigated, and this will give time to react to it. Well, one more piece of news that has now appeared on the news feeds like spam, a representative of the German Foreign Ministry Says that yesterdays interview with macron is macrons statement regarding the sending of troops, they were not surprised; the position of germany and the position of the federal chancellor regarding the sending of troops to ukraine also remains unchanged, that is , no one persuaded germany in this interview. Bogdan anatolyevich, how do we understand all this . This means that nato is distancing itself, macron slightly presented his saber, but did not take it out completely, the germans are pretending that nothing is happening at all, as if we have a majaha with cream, what is it . Well, on the one hand, it seems to me that europe has become infected with schizophrenia from ukraine, she has such a dual position on the one hand, we want to fight, on the other hand, it seems we cant. Here is the same macron in an interview, he said very clearly france will never take the initiative in military operations in ukraine, word never. It is absolutely imperative in nature , but an initiative, but on the other hand, on the other hand, we see that this issue is constantly being discussed, it has been thrown into the public space, people are watching its reaction and so on, in europe there is a different type of schizophrenia, there there are people who they want to fight directly with russia, this is not only macron with his statements, he has no actions other than statements, well , such largescale actions have not followed, these are a number of german politicians, the same kiziveter, who, in principle, proposed to inflict. But thats all anyway, germany will not supply missiles now, they didnt say in your story, well , maybe earlier it was said that scholz is all taurus missiles, without waiting for the second vote in the bundestag, where by the way he has a very strong position, he is generally not there they were very battered, he was confident in the vote, but just in case, he still sent all the missiles for maintenance, improving the settings there, it could take up to six months for these missiles. They are longrange up to 700 km, they are concretepiercing , they have up to a ton of charge , and so on, germany will not transfer these missiles, so a certain schizophrenia is observed in the fact that on the one hand hawkish statements are made, it seems that they will even send someone , several guys and so on, on the other hand directly participate nobody wants to go there to ukraine, this is a status of uncertainty, which will depend on how the fighting will proceed in the territory of the southeast in which direction this is uncertain. On Foreign Affairs of mr. Barel, and mr. Borel once again stated that literally at the end of spring in the summer the fate of the conflict in ukraine will be decided, he repeats this for the second time, the last time it was said at the end of spring, now its already a little summer, even for the third time, now my colleagues are correcting me, i repeat for the third time that barel knows this, what we dont know is that he keeps repeating all this , its hard for me to say what mr. Borel knows, because he personally always surprises me with his statements on. Recently he again compared europe to a garden, he ran into the pope and said that the pope rimsky, with this call of his , climbed into a garden that no one invited him to, yeah, but so if you just need to say that the pope built his garden on the site where europe is located, somewhat earlier than rimsky built it, i thats what irzh, you just talked about the person who holds the post eurocommersar on foreign policy, diplomatic issues like this. So a short pause, we will then return to this map that was drawn there, my land is spinning, all the big cities, i m coming to pick you up. March 17, russia is at the finish line of the president ial elections, the voice of each of us determines the fate of the country. The latest figures from polling stations and the first comments of candidates we will see how data on each ballot flows into the Electoral Commission center, we will show how regions that vote are they choosing a president for the first time and how do those who defend the country on the front line make their choice . And, of course, we will discuss what this day means for russia and the world. Lets sum up the results of the russian president ial elections on sunday and in the evening, together. 5 minutes of silence, new season from monday at 20 00 on ntv. Pay as conveniently as possible with alpha pay with any smartphone, receive a superkick every month, its not just profitable, alpha is profitable. 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The telegram channel of the ministry of defense indicates that over the past three days from march 12 to 14, troops of the Russian Group west, together with the fsb border guards, stopped. Promise, promise, maybe even do Something Like that, not very good in the execution of the game, yes, that european politicians should make these promises, and then what happens is that they say, but we made a mistake there, as it were, well, you understand when ivan said that what about you . He said, nato is just distancing itself, yes, all this can lull us to sleep and then lead to very bad consequences. Its not just that we drew this map where the north pole is, because if you read, now lets move on to the american media, nato is not distancing itself anywhere, they are not giving up anything, in general they act even without regard to any european politicians, they have their own plans, we prepared the plot, i interrupted you then, konstantin velichenovich, now well just ask that you commented on it, lets take a quick look at the north pole now. The western press believes that the us military has begun preparations for a conflict in the arctic. The United States is concerned about russias growing influence in the northern latitudes and the loss of its own military power there. According to the american publication insider, after a decade of operations in the middle east, the us armys winter combat skills have atrophied. Generals call the arctic a priority training environment because russia has many Strategic Interests in this region. This. That in the arctic they have nothing to compete with the russians, that they dont even sleep at night, the department admits. Now the United States has only two lidobreakers, while russia has more than forty. There are no americans or equipment suitable for combat in low temperature conditions to make their presence in the arctic more significant. The states are going to organize cooperation with canada and denmark, their missiles can be launched from air, land, sea and submarines, can bypass our northern warning system, knowing its location and to carry out an attack almost unnoticed by us, this does not allow me to sleep peacefully at night, unlike the shaking of the air that the french president is engaged in, here i see a real deal, they admit, yes guys, we missed something, this region, the russians. Have become stronger, yes, we have a shortage, but they are obviously now working on these errors, how quickly they can eliminate these errors, well, it will take time. Here we noted the economic aspect, that is, communication of raw materials, which there is a nodule on the ocean floor , and yet this theater is of enormous militarystrategic importance, look at this map, which is carved out here, you see, finland, here is a new land, if you draw a line from the region, well, lets say west of the new land, where our missile boats reach the states, then the shortest trajectory goes through. Improve, what can they say . Well , firstly, they can try, the first thing that will happen, thats why they are not preparing for war in this in this area, is with Ground Forces try to resolve the issue with the skol peninsula, set up our bases there, if possible, although even the third reich failed to do this, this is the only front where it did not move at all during the entire years of the war, not a single territory of the soviet union was touched upon, this was the rey, the second the task they will solve is the task of conducting combat operations against the group. Well cover this plot of land to all the objections that were voiced, they said, but we have an arctic group of troops, so im quoting Dmitry Anatolyevich today, go to hell, right . This is exactly how it was, so now they have really come to their senses and will build up their forces in order to resist this, there is someone there, there is norway, there really is canada, there is denmark with their greenland, there is someone there to resist the Russian Federation and now its just that. They will increase it, why do they then, that is, they do not agree, it turns out with the opinion of maxim anatolyevich that, in principle , it will not come to a serious showdown in the arctic, because everyone will kill each other much earlier in another place, and then what to really escalate the threat there , you need to create it constantly, if there was an opportunity there, i dont know, polar bears and walruses would have a state, but then they would already be huddled there, they would study somewhere at stanford so that later they would already enter our margins, its not a fact, some enter, exit like. From the north pole to their borders and say that this is our territory, our zone, then we didnt have no nuclear weapons, no strategic aviation, the fleet was completely different, and nevertheless we defended this point of view, we successfully defended it, until eduard ambrovarnaza began to surrender territories there in the far east, in general , everything that was possible, so now i think that it will most likely end with this , this will end because, as maxim anatolyevich said, there will be a threat of Nuclear Confrontation in which everyone will die, so. The threat of nuclear escalation, a real threat, not like now, thats what one politician writes on social networks, that here we are now we will strike, but the real threat , when this threat comes, then the parties will definitely retreat a little from these , wait, then lets just have a minute, we probably still have, again lets return to macron, which means he i dont remember , how they formulated the question about putins interview with dmitry kiselyov, yes, when putin said that yes, technically, we are ready for a nuclear war, remember, even he. Era tomorrow at 21 20 on ntv. Do you want to become a modern individual entrepreneur and not pay a commission from a transfer to a cash account. Then open an account for business on wtb. Ru. A deposit is the best Interest Rate in a savings account with clear conditions; it is a reliable and profitable way to increase your savings at a rate of up to 16 per annum. 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In about 30 minutes we will collect this invoice and provide it to you, now there is some good news for those who travel, also a lot like me, for example, to be honest, im really pleased with this and this good news is messages from Russian Railways, they presented a model of a train for a highspeed line that will be built between moscow and st. Petersburg, lets not only be here, but closer to everything this is a full screen, lets see if locomotives can develop such a futuristic, i would say, elongated shape. Speed is up to 400 km h, the trains will consist of eight cars, and a bistro car will also be included, that is, it will be possible to eat, according to head of Russian Railways oleg belozerov, a layout of sixteen cars will be possible, the assembly of trains is planned to begin in the twenty sixth year, the Company Expects to receive the first results already in the twentyseventh, well, lets see how the day before Vladimir Putin launched the construction of a highspeed line. We will assume that the improvements that were necessary to launch the project have been completed and today we agree with you that this work begins, i wish everyone success. The new highway will pass through the territory of six regions, they plan to launch trains along it already in 28, the travel time between moscow and st. Petersburg will be reduced by almost half, a snack, thats why its bro, thats why its a bistro, yes, youve knocked me down now. And we must move on to the topic, which means i said that regarding selfdefense, the state duma proposes to expand the limits of what is permissible for russian citizens, that is, so that my home, my fortress, so that this is no longer some common saying, by the way speaking, borrowed, and this in general should be some kind of legislative formulation, why is everything like this, i found my text , because there are a lot of cases that, mm, well, to put it mildly, turn into a loud scandal, in a more serious sense, they turn into dramatic and tragic stories for those people who are hung up, because a person, well, as our practice shows, who seemed to act out of the principle of selfdefense, who seemed to be defending his home, his family who lives in this house, for some reason he. Very often ends up in prison because our legislation so far believes that it has exceeded these are the limits of permissible selfdefense, so lets see what kind of initiative and most importantly why, a few examples of why we are now talking about this problem, please show me, at the end of february, a court in the ivanovo region acquitted alexander krasny under article about exceeding the permissible defense. In 2021, his family saw off their son to the army. In the midst of the feast to their private. A group of young people with whom the son of the accused had quarreled the day before arrived at home. The young men were the first to take out their weapons, began shouting threats, and broke into territory of the site. Krasnov came out of the house to talk to them, just in case, with a gun and was immediately shot in the stomach. In response , he also fired, hitting the taxi driver who brought the attackers. The driver eventually died on the spot, and krasny was charged with premeditated murder. The man spent 3 years behind bars, trying to prove that he acted within the limits. Selfdefense. The main defense argument was that the hooligans had invaded private property. When crossing the boundaries of a home, a person has the right to defend this own. Exceeding the limits of necessary defense here, a priori , cannot happen, because there was an attack, there was a crossing of the boundaries of private property. Disabled vladimir kryukov from novosibirsk has been proving his innocence for almost 5 years. Drunk guys climbed onto his property and started breaking down fences. Fights with strangers on his territory, that is, in an apartment or on a country plot, the Supreme Court considers his action to be selfdefense, and according to the same Supreme Court, there are a thousand cases under the article. About selfdefense there are only five s acquittals, the fact is that it is extremely difficult to prove where it was exceeded and where it was not, we cannot separate a persons life from the life of the owner of the home, and even the life of the person who went there , exchanging his property for the life of a criminal is not a constitutional measure, there are a huge number of such cases; in russia, according to statistics from the ministry of internal affairs, every seventh theft and seventh robbery is associated with home invasion. In Law Enforcement agencies, initiatives of deputies to introduce the principle my home, mine the fortress is considered correct, but needs clarification. The deputies decided to make it like in america, my home, my fortress. The question is how to prove that a person has come to kill or rob you. I think the deputies will share these concepts. The amendments are correct. No strangers should enter the home. House, you dont know this person, you didnt invite him, what the hell is he doing on your territory . It seems to me that this is a priori a person with some bad intentions, which means i owe myself and my loved ones from this protect a person. And first i have to take some sign and see, theres an ax there, if i take it, you have to ask him, did you come to kill me or rob me, ill go away, in fact, you think that vanya is like this now. Its ironic, nothing of the sort , well give you examples later, thats exactly how the legislation works, as vanya is saying now, but a little bit in other countries, so sergei mikhailovich, whats the problem, why cant it be unequivocal, why the law is not unequivocal doesnt take sides i protect the defender. It begins with the words it is not a crime to cause harm to the attacker , you understand, yes, that is, if this article is applied, then you must be fully acquitted, in practice, we have, you know, here is the law, well written and Judicial Practice, they are like this classical geometry, two parallel lines do not want to intersect, for some reason, these two principles are fundamental, if they worked, then we would by and large no longer need to accept, but now what if this bill becomes in favor. He will close will correct the law, correct Judicial Practice in one narrow segment, then when a crime occurs on your territory, it , unfortunately, will not work in other places, but this is better, this is better than nothing, so i am for this bill to improve the status law and was adopted, of course, when this happens on your territory, here the situation is absolutely indisputable, if a person comes to you, for me too. Comparable, comparable, someone will say incomparable, please, well, the example is wonderful, it basically explains everything so to speak, you can simplify it, a neighbors boy broke into your house with the aim of stealing something, theres some kind of ball, this is absolutely no reason to kill him, period, now the law says exactly this, right, right, that is, look , what if there is no danger to your life. It is impossible to kill this person , but how am i supposed to understand, then the question is, how am i supposed to understand if there is danger, i believe that there is a danger to my life, this is when i understand exactly what is in my kitchen, i looked in, there is some man, my life, how do i seems to be in danger, because i didnt let him in there, it turns out that according to the current law, according to your logic, i have to tell him, dear, for what purpose did you get in, you want it for food, take a second from the refrigerator, i i said about murder. It is assumed that you are lying in bed , sleeping, when i gave an example about the neighbors boy , so, and you open your eyes and the neighbors boy, so to speak, with some kind of object that looks like a gun, yes, you have reason to believe that there is , danger to your life, then its quite possible that the court will take your side, its quite possible, but maybe it wont, thats what judicial protection of rights is for, when everyone comes to court, everyone brings their own arguments , think about his rights, think about whether i have im right, at this moment this person continues to be free to kill me, hit me on the head so that i will become disabled, rape children, and i have to think about his rights, just a second. Kill, he is really a criminal, there is no killing, but at the moment if a woman woke up, saw some kind of black shadow and threw it at it shadow, everything that was at hand, and something was at hand, maybe just a second, the plenum of the Supreme Court just says in this case, if the woman was not mistaken, the reason for this was, wait, lets give us a stick and a ball lets transfer it to another. What do you say, i understand that you , on the contrary , would somehow like to expand these rights of the defender, listen, i ve actually been hearing about this expansion for probably five years now, no one there is expanding anything anywhere, well, because you see what a problem, yes the problem is acute, debatable and problem. The fact is that in america in its own way, in london, for example, i talked with a colleague, yes, i talked with a colleague, he said that there are direct specific instructions, if someone breaks into your room, you must leave the premises, no under no circumstances should we offer resistance, we are going in this direction, yes, and my colleague, this one, he said that yes, of course we will do that, but i guarantee that those who get into my house will not get out from my house in the form in which they got into it, this was his straight, not everyone can do this, youre a strong guy can do it, thats what. If an ideal bill is passed that will allow me to instantly destroy everyone who entered my private property, this is an ideal law, yes, yes, this is not will save my conscience later, if im wrong, oh, listen, well, lets sort of put the question of conscience aside a little, yes, we would like now with the questions of protecting life , what really, listen to the questions, of course, because the data, heres aleseyevich, you every day you become more and more boring and for, well ok, stuffier, maybe stuffier, but age, soon ill be like you, oh well, im generally. Some other poet, they hit each other over the head with frying pans or grab a knife, this will be taken into account somehow in this law, and then he will say, he wanted to kill me, being at my home, we are talking to you about a real problem , when you and you tell me about some tovics, such writers, tens of thousands of crimes in the country, you dont want to discuss the problem we proposed as a topic, you take us away to talk, look, what it happens . You will defend yourself with a knife, a bedside table, a brick , you can also know the brick, once the entire moscow garrison of the ministry of internal affairs protects you, you are lucky, you too, anyone, the people we just showed you, they were not protected by moscow, colleagues, but no, here they say, lets listen to khashchenko in a calm atmosphere, well show some other story after the commercials, yes, and then well listen to khashchenko. Vadima, i remember who you were going to fight with, me. 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Twentyfouryearold diana kuvshinova maintained to the last that. It was selfdefense and my mothers new husband attacked her, and there was a knife at hand. It is known that the man was previously convicted and 18 spent years in prison, but the jury is confident that there were no reasons for such selfdefense. The attacker died from a blow to the neck with a sharp object; the carotid artery was damaged. I wanted to run out of the house, he stood in the passage and did not let me get out, i saw that it was possible to walk between them like a wall, but i was unable to get out. Run out, he grabbed me by the hair and dragged me. But perm resident denis shakhtin was never able to prove his innocence, but the case ended with a fine. In the summer of 2018, a drug addict in a state of delirium tremens entered his house and turned on the gas in the kitchen, threatening at the same time shakhtins fiancee. As a result of the struggle , the attacker lost consciousness and died in the hospital. The court imposed a fine on denis of half a million rubles. How can you quickly find your way there . The man attacked, that is, i began to defend my life. That is. I was defending myself, that is, repelling the attack of a man who wanted to kill me, how do you get your bearings, they are trying to kill you, you resist it. Anton valerievich, here s how to distinguish selfdefense from intentional, as in the language of the protocol, intentional infliction of grievous harm or i i will definitely answer this question, but first a few questions, probably no one here in this studio will argue that the human right to selfdefense should be 100 . But if this bill is ever adopted, and it is not adopted and it is wrong to say that the state duma wants it, it is individual deputies, a separate faction that wants it, they have been wanting this for many years and have not adopted it precisely because it is a very complex topic, which now we will protect these rights, we will violate the rights of others, i will explain how to resolve this issue in general, but first please, two points, a colleague was just talking about a child who can climb in and you wont kill him, ill give you another example, even if its an artistic invention, if. On ours, that means, including on cinemas, although they have it in this regard , of course, which means that now the most important thing is that you two are absolutely correct in saying that to a person who has been approached by someone and you dont know what it means, its whats in the persons head, which means its difficult to choose , he wants to kill me, he doesnt want to kill me, and he needs to defend himself, then, when you defend yourself, you can , accordingly, accidentally kill this person, yes, that means eliminating him in this way, which means that in this situation, of course, you need to defend yourself, of course. But then the colleague talks about the judicial system, all those examples that we see, they are not about laws that are good or bad, they are about how they are, accordingly, in practice here on earth from the point of view of our courts, which means i have a specific proposal, in fact , it is clear that this is if this is an ordinary trial by a judge with our prosecution, which will probably tell you that they checked everything perfectly with the investigation, and the judge is busy with other cases, he needs to close this case as soon as possible and continue accordingly. To go to another case, it means that there will be much less chance of protecting your rights if it is a jury trial, colleagues, lets expand jury trials, we have a tiny number of jury trials. Because when you have the same people sitting around, who put themselves in the place of this or that person, they will not only be guided by the law or the right, they will also be guided by moral and ethical standards of all sorts, so if we had jury trials and these cases were considered by jury courts, the number of acquittals in such cases would be much greater, thus, anton valerevich, you say, that from the point of view of the law , it is impossible to resolve the situation, and a decision must be made in the event of such situations, a decision essentially based on concepts, because the court. I say again, when for a judge or for a prosecutor, this is mechanical work, he is constantly in court , this is one, case, two, cases, this is mechanically already accepted, and a person who sits in a jury trial, he can put himself on it, this is more anton valeevich, now with us, as far as i understand and read the law, maybe im not a lawyer, im interpreting it incorrectly, now in our country the law always stands on the side of, excuse me, the corpse. If there is a murdered person, then he is a priori, most likely not guilty, but the one who kills him is guilty, these situations with selfdefense, i would say, Judicial Practice is on the side of the prosecution a very small number of verdicts, this is true, on the one hand this may indicate that the investigative authorities are doing their job well, on the other hand, when we look at the statistics on juries, we see that if we have there in the case of an ordinary of judges this is one percent, relatively speaking , acquittals or two, then in the case of jurors, this is every fifth acquittal. Im not saying that the judicial system should not consider this, im saying that now it turns out that the vast majority of these situations, here the trial says that the defense is to blame, this is not so, this is not so, no, so wait, wait, firstly, a large number of cases are about 303640 , i dont remember the source now, then i i read exactly about this, that 3640 of such selfdefense cases are simply not initiated, at the stage of the actual verification, they are closed, closed. Write some kind of law so that in the event of selfdefense and the presence of a stranger who has entered my house against my will, i dont end up with interpretations from different sides, but i, an innocent person who did not call for this and was simply defending himself was somehow, from the point of view of the law, higher, so that my interpretation would not be equal to the interpretation of the criminal, so i really dont understand, let me answer, of course, lets you give an example, oh which is spoken by the plenum of the Supreme Court , which clearly says that it is necessary to take into account the situation when a person is in his home, as a result of an attack he can overestimate the situation, the court will be on his side, that is, in simple words, if you are attacked in your home, the court , investigator, the prosecutor must take into account the state of stress of a person, like. Who is defending himself, he allows him to use everything, but proportionately, that is, if a person, roughly speaking, steals something, and you kill him right there, most likely this will be an excess the limits of necessary defense, there is essentially Something Else to add, article 108 this murder when exceeding the limits is necessary for up to two years, just for just getting into my room for a second. the law allows me to use weapons, everything is clearly described to the captivity of the Supreme Court, how moreover, it gives me the right to make a mistake, to admit that i did not correctly assess the situation, given that i am a respectable citizen, lying at home in bed and at night breaks in, even a person who does not want to kill me, but it works out for me the impression that he will now open fire either against my family or against me, i have the right to take a knife, a gun, yeah, and stop this attack, but as soon as i stopped the attack, roughly speaking, this criminal is already lies down, come and finish him off, not at all about in this case, it looked like you say, we need to conditionally use your services, who will prove all this so convincingly, i mean, without a lawyer. 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According to surveys, more than 40 of belgians always carry weighted umbrellas, folding batons, nail files or scissors, and at home they always have baseball bats and tennis rackets ready, here in the czech republic, although firearms are allowed there. They never try to pass him again, that is, everything is correct, you scare the parrot with a flashlight, he will run away, listen, but maybe, why go to extremes again, you need to understand that. The thing, it seems that our discussion really exists, because no once again, look, this is an important, important trust, there is no public trust in the court, we dont believe that, so to speak, by adopting such a law, the court will be fair, now there is a problem, because again we dont trust Justice Court decisions, already. So this discussion is not at all about what you are talking about, but about the anecdote that putin likes to tell about a dirk and a watch, a dirk and a watch, yes , i know this joke, which means that since you know that you are rosining my brains now because we live in a country in a society where such practices are practiced, i have no trust, well, this is the practice you like, a robber breaks into your place, and you have to scare him with a flashlight, yeah, well, listen, not necessarily flashlights, there are these, what . Yes, that corpses will not be dragged into an apartment and say you always suspect people of some kind of, i dont even know, it s called, tens of thousands of domestic murders occur due to drunkenness, yes, tens of thousands, tens of thousands of crimes, there are hundreds of murders, hundreds of murders, tens of thousands, this is already clear, drunk, when something was not shared, when something was not. Already today, in principle, the examples that were given numerously, the woman woke up, saw, i woke up, saw, this all falls clearly under the disposition of paragraph 2. 1 article 37 of the criminal code, about necessary defense, that is , justifying in a sudden attack, when the defender does not have time to assess the nature of the threat, this paragraph states, he has the right to consider that there is a threat to life and to apply any harsh measures, that is, in fact, i say again , this article, it is tips for nonworking laws, for nonwork. In general, according to statistics , there were fewer than stalins troikas, sorry, this is not normal, this is wrong. Other statistics do not reach the court, certain cases simply do not reach the court, they are softened, which are closed at the stage of investigation in a state like thirtyseven, this is correct, but even then there are less than half of them, most of them go to court, and then your chances of not getting imprisoned are miniscule less than 1 , so this must be broken categorically, i emphasize once again, this law would have existed at all would not be necessary if existing laws worked. That by giving a person some additional opportunities to protect his life, we thus turn him into a potential murderer, because he will start killing everyone, explain to me why you do this, the life of a criminal, it is also worth something, even if it turned out to be this is an everyday situation, this does not mean at all that you need to grab a knife, a weapon, an object that looks like a weapon and destroy the criminal, and his guilt is not a fact that will be proven. 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