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Watch right now, hello, this is the Meeting Place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear, i am andrey norkin, my colleague ivan trushkin, we are working live, we will start today with tragic news from the belgorod region, tonight as a result of another attack ukrainian drones, and there are casualties among the civilian population, the debris of one of these downed drones fell on residential buildings and three people were killed, let us listen to the governor of the region, its a difficult morning for all of us, at night previously as a result of the fall an Unmanned Aerial Vehicle on the outskirts of belgorod actually destroyed two residential buildings, damaged several houses as a result of the explosion, and damaged several. But most importantly, three people died, one of them a small child, according to vyacheslav glatkov, two more people are in intensive care in serious condition, the governor published photographs showing buildings destroyed after the drone attack, you can see them now too, well and now there will be footage from the scene of the incident, which was filmed this morning on thursday, well. From the video, yes, you can see that the territory of this house where the drone fell is still cordoned off, well, the house, part of it, at least, the house, in these frames, what is visible is practically lying in place there is an emergency, now the wreckage is visible, and the Emergency Services of the region continue their work, well, we are returning to the middle east and are forced to start with quite sad numbers, and the israeli and palestinian sides gave figures for the dead and wounded, at the moment, as of this morning, israel. 1,300 dead, palestinians talk about 1,200, this is all the minimum. And the numbers of wounded vary greatly. Israel claims 3,700 people. This means that the gaza strip is more than 6,000 people, while the israeli side says that it will continue to strike places that it considers to be the headquarters of the hamas movement. The Israeli Military on thursday morning posted footage of new missile attacks on the gaza strip. In one video, the explosion of a highrise building, according to tel aviv, was used by an organization. Islamic jihad, in russia, it is recognized as terrorist, in the second video, bombing objects of the hamas movement, according to the arabic tv channel almayadeen, on thursday night the israeli army attacked no less than 450 ground targets in the gaza strip, the publication of the Islamic University came under attack, there are shots before the attack, there are shots after, here they are published by the bbc because shelling from israel, the only checkpoint from gaza to egyptian territory remains closed. They did not open it for security reasons. Meanwhile, following the introduction of a food fuel blockade of the gas sector, the israeli authorities announced the entire the perimeter of the region is a closed military zone, any penetration there is prohibited. We are fighting with all our might on all fronts. We went on the offensive. Every member of hamas is dead. Hamas is isis. And he will be crushed and destroyed, just like the world. Well, the Palestinian Ministry of Foreign Affairs accuses israel of using ammunition with White Phosphorus in the peaceful areas of gaza, these shots are now spreading across social networks, this is the coastal zone of the gas strip, here it is, white characteristic smoke, approximately the same footage is coming from the israelilebanese border, where there are also battles going on now actions, the use of ammunition with White Phosphorus is not prohibited by international conventions, but it is strictly regulated, they are not allowed to be used. Against civilians, since upon contact with the human body, the substance causes severe burns, as well as poisoning, damage to bones and bone marrow, at the same time, the israeli ambassador to russia claims that his country does not use phosphorus. All this video that we showed is fake from social networks, the Israeli Ministry of defense does not comment on these shots at all, but previously, they stated that in the current situation, i will quote, they abolished all the rules of war for themselves, end of quote, the un, when asked by journalists to respond to a report about White Phosphorus, stated that they had not received such reports, but continue to monitor the situation, thats what the residents of gaza themselves say there is massive destruction here. And no one supports us except god. They bombed us with White Phosphorus with illegal ammunition. Many people suffered injuries that led to their death. This is colossal destruction. Well israeli authorities announced for the first time how long the gas sector will remain under blockade. Israeli Authorities Say this will continue until all hostages are released. This despite the fact that aljazeera tv channel has already published the first footage of the liberation. But here, too, everything is not so simple in these footage, as stated, hamas is freeing and releasing a woman with two Young Children to the israeli border. The israeli press, in turn, states that these footage was filmed back on october 7, and the woman in these footage, as they again they claim that she is not the mother of these children at all. Allegedly, the mother continues to remain in captivity. In total, according to the turkish publication takvim, there may be at least 200 people held hostage by the hamas movement; the idf says that. With the families of eightyone hostages, our embassy also clarified the latest figures for the dead and injured russian citizens. The numbers have so far been confirmed these are four killed russian citizens who were permanently residing here in israel and for now we can speak with confidence and confirmed information by the israeli authorities, with whom we are of course in contact with six missing people, there are different categories, mostly these are also people who lived here. Anthony blinken, and the Washington Post claims that he will meet not only with the israeli authorities, but with the head of palestine , mahmoud aabas, and as soon as blinken stepped off the ramp, he immediately outlined the american position. We are determined to ensure that israel gets everything. He needs to protect himself in order to. The guardian showed a kind of media performance with blinkens british colleague, British Foreign secretary jameson cleverly, in fact, these footage were posted online, where cleverly and members of the british delegation, who also flew to israel, are forced to seem to save hamas from rockets when the sirens turn on, but nobody shows missiles, but western media in general. Even in ukraine and kiev they have mastered this performance, when as soon as some important western person flies into a shelling zone, he is immediately taken to bomb shelters. Well, finally, it became known that at the height of the war, terrorists, the disgrace of the jewish people, vladimir zelensky, gathered in israel , the aksus publication reports on sources in kiev that ukraine allegedly asked netanyahu for permission for such a visit, what exactly israel responded to this is still unclear , no specific dates are mentioned, but the action says that the terrorist zelsky really wants to break into israel. Andrey vladimovich, its all over with the latest news. You speak just like you finished your report. Well, zelsky wanted to go a lot in these days to get to different countries, hes been rolling around like that, well, in romania he didnt do very well, there, his speech was canceled, rejected, yes, in parliament, but now were more interested, heres his appearance at the nato meeting in the ramstay format, if you remember this. Yesterday we wanted to draw your attention to something, but they changed it right on the air, and said that we will show it tomorrow, now tomorrow has come, so let us return to this topic, because there is one more point, andrei vladimerovich again led us into delusion, i will put it this way, but because he told us that we need to take into account, you also did this , just like that, take a bite, biden signed an order on the supply of missiles, atomics, well, here you are. The head of the pentagon personally stated this at this very meeting in ramstay format. Lets take a look in detail. On wednesday , a ramstein meeting was held at nato headquarters in brussels. This is a Contact Group on arms supplies to ukraine. At the meeting, for the First Time Since the beginning of the special military operation , the terrorist president zelsky materialized and the first thing he did was i listed all the wishes of kyiv. Priority is given to air Defense Systems and longrange missiles. And artillery. Nato promised to help for 200 million. This is one of the minimum tranches for ukraine ever. And the head of the pentagon disappointed kiev by refusing to give otax missiles. I dont have any announcements regarding atacoms, but we are focusing on what we think ukraine needs. To ensure that the topic of ukraine does not get lost at all, the belgian authorities quickly came to the rescue. Prime minister Alexander De Croo said that brussels is ready to transfer american fighters to kiev f16. True, not soon, not earlier than 2025, but natos agent has limited himself to routine promises. Russia has stepped up attacks on Critical Infrastructure and is preparing to use winter as a weapon again. Therefore, we must continue to support ukraine. The politico publication believes that zelskys sudden appearance at the nato summit is the result of fears that instead of ukraine , everyone will now discuss israel. The newspaper , citing sources, claims that the conflict in the middle east is of concern to nato generals much more than anything else. Nato is forced to split due to support for israel and ukraine. Defense ministers expected to spend their time supporting ukraine. Instead, they found that the briefings primary focus was on a region that had been largely forgotten in the last 2 years. Realizing which way the wind was blowing, zelsky presented himself to the west in a new role, military coach and number one expert in the fight against terrorism. He stated that he was ready to give his recommendations on resolving the situation in the middle east, they say he knows better than anyone how to resist terrorist attacks. We are at war, we know what terrorist attacks and the threat of casualties are. I will give my recommendations to the leaders of the world. Our war also began with terrorist attacks. Kiev now intends to sell the russian threat under the guise of a joint fight against hamas. In an interview with a frenchman. Reported on certain data from the Ukrainian Special services, which allegedly indicate the kremlins trace in the palestinianisraeli conflict. The loud statement of the expected caused a strong reaction in the western press, but the cia employees, whom hot on the heels, they asked to comment on what was said, and they raised zelskys statement into ridicule. Why does zelsky make this statement . I understand that he wants to draw attention to ukraine because the topic has changed . Its just ridiculous, blaming putin for everything, hes just trying to stay relevant, he understands that the cost of aid is rising, and israel is in the forefront. Israel has more political influence in the us than ukraine. So, andrei vladimerich, it turns out that your counterparties deceived you. No, they didnt deceive, in fact, the order signature nails would be made of these people. Signed and the missiles will go live very soon, there is just an agreement with the Us Administration that this will be announced at once, without advance, without, well, everything is signed, believe me , and the land list was also signed, the land list was also signed, there is no lisa, and there is no need, it means that this concerns, no , wait, andreilovich, you told us a lot about the importance of this lendlease project, well, excuse me, yesterday, yesterday, yesterday, ukraine received military aid worth 500 million dollars, 200 only from usa, listen, lets be honest, 200 only from the usa , yes we are trying to be honest, you just tell us, honestly, honesty is that they received help, for 500 million dollars, yesterday, the first time including including , by the way , six air Defense Systems, besides, in addition, in addition, the most important thing that zelensky has achieved is the socalled longterm planning, that the system of military support for ukraine will be fully extended to 2024. This also needs to be taken into account, right . And f16 this is only one small part of that plan to clarify, to clarify, even if everything you say, lets say that you know much more than me, but i am a person who looks at the media, before, when they were collected in the ramshtai format , zelensky came there, they practically carried him in their arms , and every time after these meetings he immediately, well, he came online, about some kind of billiondollar support, six, behold, look, they have just announced. According to your version 500, according to me 200, this is the american part, you are talking about some kind of systematization of supplies, you talked about it earlier, that supplies would be systematized six months ago, thats what happened, that now the zelensky terrorist and the president are looked at without such an appetite as before, why is everything going absolutely as planned, ukraine will have military support continue fully as planned. American assistance to ukraine will be carried out within the framework of the 2024 budget and then and then the next batch for the twentyfifth year this will already be, excuse me, new administration, so he said russian reminds me of a famous famous miniature performed by 1000 spectators for one ruble it will be it will be 1000 spectators for one ruble crazy. Its impossible to live with illusions with you, you overwhelm us with so many, viewers, i give you a promise, which means i will now watch closely, i no longer have hope for yusin, he writes down andrei vladimechs notebook all the time, and then its unknown what he is not recording for andrei vladimovich, he is for ours, it seems to me that he he likes some parts of our stories, in short, lets do this, ill try to make all the forecasts. At least when he tells us specific dates that on the twentyfourth the earth will fly into the celestial axis, so ill do all this write down, on the 24th i will talk about this, here andrei vladimerovich is right, and here andrei vladimerovich is wrong, because he will say, yes, on the twentyfourth, but they didnt say in what year, lets then, since you were already eager, israeli Prime Minister, who said that we will defeat hamas just like the world defeated isis, yes. I remember how the world fought with isis, which captured 2 3 of the territory of syria and stood near damascus until russia intervened, who defeated isis its still a big question whether isis won, judging by the fact that trump said that he won, won, there are a lot of them about zelskys visit to israel, you know, i really want this visit to take place, i even, i even understand what he can say there, he will probably come out to the meeting and say, we are shoulder to shoulder ready with the israelis. By the way this is not hides, he even said publicly about it, that there is such a threat, such a fear he has in relation to that attention regarding the focus of attention, after all, zelensky needs money and needs weapons, israel probably needs money to a lesser extent. Weapons, he needs some kind of thing, i dont know how to say it, political support, Something Like that, well, just give it, well, for the iron bath, but all the same, its a little bit, its like different things, Something Else the point is that the focus of attention can really switch, how much this is bad for you know, it seems to me that in general there is no need to draw parallels between israel and ukraine, even to at least look, to be honest, i am very surprised, not just surprised, just delighted. How successfully in 2 weeks israel attracted reservists, so to speak, and listen to the harm of its own, to gather 3000 people under arms in such a short time, the country is a small country , a small territory is small, i understand everything, i understand everything, but i just see how these processes happen in ukraine when everyone every week every appear on the internet every day videos of people being beaten and grabbed on the streets. Yes, and here the system is absolutely clearly built and attracting reservists, i just have a suggestion, since we really have been in these 5 days, well no, four with todays broadcast, and our focus has shifted to the middle east, thats why today we wanted a little bit interrelated topics , but about the ukrainian events around ukraine, we wanted to talk a little more in detail, lets vasily, thank you, sir, at first i had emotions, when i saw how they were bombing gaza, like at home destroyed, peoples emotions, i didnt remember about last year, the month of october last year, especially pasmedal, meaning the head of the gur gur of the Main Intelligence Directorate of ukraine budanov, he said that last year, he started his interview like that, that last year attacks began, largescale attacks by the Russian Armed forces on the infrastructure of ukraine , on the Energy Infrastructure and so on, but i just want to remind you that on october 8 last year, under the same statement, budanov, the Ukrainian Armed forces blew up the crimean bridge, yes, that is, a year ago, the crimean bridge was blown up, then there were massive attacks on the infrastructure of ukraine in ukraine they are afraid that these attacks will continue, yes, but gur, budanov says, we did this, if last year he tried to hide, he tried to say that no, its not us, its not our doing, but now he s bragging that we wanted to seize the Zaporozhye Nuclear power plant three times, and so on, in connection with that. Why did i Start Talking about this . Zelensky when he made a voyage to romania, raanstein met with the Prime Minister of belgium, you showed information when the Prime Minister of belgium said that. That f16s will be delivered to ukraine starting in 2025, zelsky almost fell under the table, he had such emotions, he closed, that is, how so, how so , man, like twentyfifth year, if we need f16 now, we need it now air defense system, we need shells now and so on, what im leading to, im leading to this, i dont argue with you, stop, i need to write down what in january there will be 16 first deliveries publications, im not arguing with you, i didnt interrupt you, just like you, im reading this guys information, the minister of defense of ukraine, who wrote in his public page that the americans are giving us 200 million, thats all from the world only 500, that is, the minister of defense of ukraine said what adin vladimirovich conveyed, but this is a promise, and the promise to get married and get married are different things, what i hear is what is happening in ukraine around the trip of all that is called zelensky. Zelsky says that everyone should go to israel, since you are coming to us, youve been visiting us in ukraine for the whole year, world leaders, go to israel in the same way and support israel, and i also want to go there, that is, he really wants to go there, this is pr andrei vladimyovi, zelsky is bargaining to pro he was not forgotten against the backdrop of what is happening now in the middle east, in the president ial elections in ukraine, and he said that if the war continues, i will go to the polls, but if there is peace, then no, listen, the man is telling the whole world i am for war , i want to continue the war, and i am a man who is now the president of a country at war, if you want there to be a further war. Elect me, appoint me in a simple way, this is what is savage in this, it turns out that a man who is at war with the country , right, its like lukashenko said here that i want peace and he even said it, he wont say it, why did he the president of ukraine will not talk about peace , i would like him to say, you want this, this is what lifegiving Russian Television is doing, despite andrei vladimovichs assurance that everything is fine in ukraine, and the situation in the middle east has not changed anything, we just looked at how many drones are now flying from the ukrainian side, without in any way canceling todays belgorod tragedy, there are simply fewer of them, less shelling, less actions within the framework of this counteroffensive, which, as we now understand, its like theres a pause until the winter, so lets look at it, thats right, that s what was planned, last evening the new head of the us joint chiefs of staff, charles brown. Made a statement ukraine will continue its offensive operation in the winter, what caused the pause, the general did not explain, but the armed forces have indeed sharply reduced their activity in several directions at once, for example, parttime work and coal mining, perhaps it is due to large losses in people in equipment, but there is a version that the armed forces are afraid of shells famine, because back in early october, nato admitted that ukrainian weapons reserves were coming to an end. We are transferring weapons and ammunition to ukraine. Our warehouses are not full, we started deliveries from halfempty warehouses in europe, and the bottom of this the barrels are already visible. Ukrainian drones began to fly much less, since october 7 there have been no attacks on crimea, and the frequency of attacks on Border Regions has also decreased. Experts suggest that the armed forces of ukraine are trying to save money, while the issue of further supplies has not yet been clarified; there is no encouraging news from washington yet. We cant start planning for the long haul, with support. In ukraine, we are coming to the end of the rope. Today we announced 200 million, but it wont last forever. Dealt a blow to ukrainian combat capability and the sudden israeli mobilization. 2,000 foreign mercenaries who helped in the ssu were hastily transferred to the middle east. This information is confirmed by the ukrainian press. The escalation of the escalation of the conflict in Israel Forces us to take serious measures. A group of mercenaries from the United States has already been sent to jerusalem. If he expects to continue the banquet, a recent dispatch from the white house outlines a reform plan that kiev must implement, all kinds of reforms, transformations and advice on 22 pages, as the politicians publication found out, there is. And a secret application, its in three times larger than the public part and contains details of us goals in ukraine, from Bank Privatization to reform. The document, which they themselves call a demarche, is a diplomatic note, containing demands for financial transparency in the expenditure of funds and the implementation of these reforms. When contacted by cnn , the Ukrainian Embassy in the United States responded that ukraine has already taken ambitious steps to implement reforms. Alexander, everything that was just said in this story, it generally fits into the concept that you gave us youve been saying for several months now that the americans are quietly, little by little. They lubricate the ski, dump it, and so on, what annoys me, ill tell you honestly, the reaction of this not andrei vladimovich in our studio, but the collective ukrainian one, andrei, who chuckles at this and says, everything will be fine, but no longer, from the fact that i go to ukrainian public pages, its still there, even without the extravaganza, but there is calm, it seems to me that there are more curses there, what is my question, dont we console ourselves that everything is already greased by the skis . Is it Getting Better for us than you . Ivan sergeevich, we dont have a task to entertain someone, we have a task, as absolutely right, says andrei vladimovich, to be realistic, thats right, our task is to analyze and understand what is happening, my conclusions are not based on what i want, if i say what i want, your program for weeks is a law, no, our program is not a law, so my conclusions are based, ill say, no, well, you can be brought in for some kind of extremism or Something Like that, i wont give us anything, right away changed his mind on our live broadcast, no, its just that even if Vladimir Vladimirovich extremists came out of the blue, then no, he said this , im saying i wont talk to your husband, although hes not an extremist, hes a radical man, but because he took out a telescope and i was sitting on putin, staring at him, i saw this picture, of course, it will be somehow funny, so here we are what are these conclusions based on . Firstly, an analysis of all the necessary agendas, and not just one or two, that is, we very often focus on the ukrainian agenda and think, that firstly, for some reason, that it is independent, it does not exist, we need to consider the agenda, the political agenda of the United States, the european union, britain separately, ukraine, our own, take into account all these as it were, well, its like such demagoguery, when a person says, well. This problem must be solved in an integrated approach, this means that the person knows nothing, a good formulation of an integrated approach, although you can already Say Something more specific about the comparison, i have the impression that you are trying to catch a thought by the tail, but it keeps running away from you, that you did not prepare for the program today, in the ukrainian crisis it is confusing, in the ukrainian crisis, the determining agenda is the american one. In the american agenda in the month of january, the priimarries officially begins, we all see this, there is no need to prove to anyone that the ruling party has very big problems, it should throw off additional problems as much as possible, in fact , this has been said since january, and the Us Democratic party is included participating in elections the ukrainian conflict cannot for one simple reason, its not just me who said this, its already from the west. They Start Talking, they are listening to your program, probably, because if there are hostilities and the United States is obviously participating in them , indirectly, but in an obvious way, then we have a button for their elections, because we can, whenever we want, this is what you told us, only they cannot allow this, they also understand this perfectly well, so wait, alexander, you still answer the question vanya, as you said, the global ukrainian element there , how does he feel about this, someone should at least be fine, some movements should have already begun, someone would have lubricated their skis, someone. That would mean it would have quieted down, but for now the reactions of whom you are talking about, the inhabitants of some talking heads, there is no feeling that they have already understood that it smells like something fried, that is my question, since i am, by necessity, five or six big experts. I watch ukrainian ones every day, most of them are in kiev, otherwise the tone there changed by 180 in six months by 180, that is, no one talks about victories there anymore, they talk there, but what they talk about, now theyre already commenting on this specific story, saying that they say, because im not i know, vanya, i am what i read, the americans are bastards, they abandoned us, which means that with the jews there or with the jews there, as they write, now they have them. Even before israeli history began, they say this, now they say that how important it is, some factor or not, look. There is an expert in kyiv, records a video in kiev, by and large, which is perpendicular to the official narrative of the president s office, and he is alive, this is a factor, that is, they have already been allowed or they simply have the strength, there is no strength for this and no, everything is fine there, no, this is good, this true, because we need to pause, lets just alexander, he somehow nodded his head so actively, here for you too in your comment. Touched on this topic, short break, we will continue, dont miss it, central television, the first information show about the events and people of the week, who and how slept through the daring attack by hamas, where were the israeli armys pr massads, why modern tanks and planes were powerless against militants in pickup trucks, motorcycles and gliders, in washington to wage a war on two fronts, where the pentagon will find weapons and ammunition for israel if the american the arsenal was devastated by the ukrainian crisis, the american bulevar will definitely not survive two armed conflicts, does this mean that kiev will now be forced to peace . Extreme determination after the hamas attack the israeli army is plowing with shells and leveling the gaza strip, a patch of land with 2 million hostages of this massacre, the Prime Minister of israel promises to change the attack in response. 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We ll continue with this part, come on. Lets start with the breaking news that the syrian press is spreading. According to the alvatan newspaper, israel launched a missile attack on syria, hitting the runways of damascus and aleppo airports. These pictures with smoke are now being circulated, as if they were filmed at the scene of the events; we cannot guarantee their authenticity. It is reported that both airports have suspended operations. And this is a screenshot from the flight radar website. I think you know him. It is reported that the iranian plane, which was heading to syria, in connection with this shelling. Was forced to turn around and fly to some other airfield from zones of these strikes. Now let s move on to the reuters message, it says that this friday , unofficially, a state of emergency will be declared in all european capitals. Why . They refer to one of the leaders of hamas, khaled mashaal, who called on this day for residents around the world in european capitals in particular to take to the streets, well, organize Something Like pogroms in support of palestine. In the british. The ministry of internal affairs has already reacted and recommended detaining anyone who goes out into the street with a palestinian flag, and if you go by these shots from skynews, then there will be, or at least quite a lot of, such people with palestinian flags on british streets. Earlier, a video circulated online , presumably filmed in the british city of shefield, in which jubilant people are removing the israeli flag from the city hall, and now you see it, instead of it they are raising the palestinian flag. Lets watch it with sound. No less active support for the palestinians is now being provided in germany, there it even came to a fight, teachers and students in one of the berlin schools, as the Police Reported on their twitter account, a fourteenyearold teenager came to the school playground, wrapped in a palestinian flag, the teacher who saw this demanded to remove the flag, the student supported him from his classmate, they began to argue with the teacher and quite quickly this argument, you can see on the video now, it has already turned into a fight, the teenager hit the teacher with his head, he allegedly defended himself with his palm and also hit the student on the head, in response to this he received a blow to the stomach, about who it is appropriate for in the current conflict , the german chancellor recently argued about what sympathies are unacceptable. The israeli flag was raised on sunday. The German Parliament and the office of the president. The Brandenburg Gate is also illuminated with the israeli flag. This is a sign of our solidarity with israel. Germany has strengthened protection for jewish and israeli institutions on its territory. It is unacceptable that heinous attacks on israel are being celebrated here on our streets. Unexpectedly, the former american secretary of state, titan of america. Politics henry kissinger, he himself, by the way, was born in germany, so he says that the chaotic migration policy of germany is to blame for the disorder , let us listen to how he formulates it, it is a mistake to let in so many people of completely different cultures, religions, views, because it creates a Pressure Group within each country that does this, geniuses of the place of time, of course, andrei vladimirovich, because now it sounds very, very ambiguous, especially, especially the unsubscribe, i just to close this topic about shifting the focus of attention, mr. Scholz said that the Brandenburg Gate is illuminated in the colors of the israeli flag. In the colors of which flag the whole of europe was illuminated in the last months of the ukrainian one, its getting ridiculous now, of course, in support, i saw a photograph from rome, there is one of the triumphal arches, in my opinion the arch of titus, i too, that means there s an israeli flag there , its just very funny that the romans once built this arch itself in honor of the capture of jerusalem, but now they they hang it on the same arch, but oh well, thats their business. So, that is, the focus seems to be changing, aleksandrevich, it seemed to me that you then, we will now move on to another plot, when i said, i began to object to vanya, that i see only curses on ukrainian social networks, and you seem how they began to nod their heads, so i would like to understand, i am being bullied by you, ukrainian, everyone is cheating on me, the attitude is that this is how the west behaves, america separately, is worried. They are very worried, at least in terms of information, they are afraid that israel will push ukraine out of the agenda, and this is very important, that they remain on the agenda, it is extremely important for them, because they will continue this with the entire ukrainian project, i have a dream, if there is time left, i will not say, in fact, the entire ukrainian the project, from my point of view, is a peer project. Media, yes, as long as this pr project, well, of course it did not fail and will not fail, it suffers some damage, this causes them a very painful reaction, they act in two directions, with one on the one hand, they want to increase ukraines share in the International Information agenda, but on the other hand, they are doing everything to cling to israel, yeah. To say that ukraine and israel are united, thats why zelsky is eager to go there, thats why, it means that everyone who had flags of ukraine on social networks there, now two flags have appeared together with israel, and so on, well, lets still, lets go to the end, im certainly not sure that you will be pleased in comparison with Martin Luther king, but no less, whatever dream you have, his dream. I have the following, now, without fear of any criminal liability, i have the opportunity, having seen a military expert on the other side, to say that now i have someone to learn how to conduct war from, it doesnt work, its good that you said this, because of course, especially after todays novorossiya talk about belgorod, you walk around the house and think when will we do it like israel. The disappeared barabanov, why did he disappear, he is with his colleagues on other channels, well, here i am him i dont see, so the question arises, what the hell is happening, what happened in belgorod, there is a reason for it, and you yourself, alexander nikolai, you are an intelligent person, you can answer this question yourself, why us . We dont allow ourselves to do what israel allows itself to do now in the gas sector, israel allows itself to level out, man, he has a little, sorry that im answering for you, a different cultural code, Alexander Nikolaevich, makes special reservations, but without any fear there criminal case, Alexander Nikolaevich very often on our air allows himself to make statements that, yes , lets do it this way, which is very good, the government makes a decision, it seems to be conducting a limited military operation, but the government has the power to decide, the person has the power of opinion, i agree, but im okay, ive also said many times here that it should be like this, like this, but now youre walking around, thinking and understanding that like this, well , you cant do it like that, but how can you do it, it means we havent really talked about it in recent days, its just not that paid attention, there was no opportunity to talk about it, it is necessary, it means that we have a serious activation on the front line in a variety of directions, let us look at all this now, but along the entire line, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, show me , please, on a large scale. The russian army began an operation against one of the oldest and most powerful fortifications of the Ukrainian Armed forces in avdievka on tuesday. At the moment it is reported that our fighters broke through to the south in the berdychi area, attacked from the experienced side, and are also moving towards tonenky. Along the way they were taken strategically important heights near novomikhailovka. The fall of one of the main Ukrainian Defense centers in ddeevka not only sharply weakens the front of the Ukrainian Armed forces in the donetsk direction, but also deprives it of a line from which attacks are launched on donetsk itself. From the first day of the fullscale attack, the russians tried to surround and take the city of avdeevka. We defend this territory, understanding that it is pointed at donetsk. Of course, this is too disturbing for the russians. Avdeevka goes to konstantinovka and pokrovskaya. In the marinka area, our armed forces deployed attack aircraft to the north, krasnogorsk, and to the south of marinka itself the other day we were. In which they talk about losses, and call their retreat tactical. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, people, another 300, we tactically left our positions, moving one kilometer, or even one and a half, deep in the kupinsky direction. Fighting continues at senkovka. It is reported that three enemy strongholds were taken there. Kiev military propaganda complains that Russian Troops are setting records for the number of attacks. The enemy continues to intensify his strikes actions, in particular using his artillery, rocket, cannon, also tanks, using small arms, grenade launchers, he fired at our. Positions 774 times, which, in principle, is a record. The russian armys offensive includes attacks on the enemys rear. The ssu is frightened by our modernized lance drones, and in ukrainian social networks they are worried about the destruction of ukrainian su25s at the dolgntsevo airfield. This airfield is located in the krivorzhsky district, 70 km from the front line. Recently, russians have begun to show miracles and their technical improvements, because. Previously, these drones patrolled at a distance of up to 40 km, but now their flight capabilities have increased to 6070 km, you probably noticed that we used quotes from ukrainian sources here, this is so that there are fewer questions, 30 seconds of comment is possible, let them now continue to be amazed by miracles, lets give 30 seconds, im not talking about the front, and i m not talking about the front, let the military talk about the front, but im talking about something completely different, what happened in belgorod, what happened in belgorod, after 24 hours, that half of kharkov is missing, you are becoming human, aleksandrovich, you understand that this is impossible, it simply does not exist, the picture from the gas now shows that this is an absolutely cannibalistic method, if it is gases, it would be possible, it would be possible to talk about it , they dont want anything else, they want us. Kill, they want to burn moscow , which they write to me about every day, they want to kill us, they want to rape our women, they want to set up their khokhlyat kingdom here, ukraine is everything, but this is not their fault, principled moment, this is a fundamental point, this is a fundamental point, its clear, but he and the president , i would like to touch on three aspects , ill start with the analytical one, regarding the conflict in the middle east, the arabisraeli conflict, you know, thinking about it, and now im listening to analysts, not ukrainian ones experts, alexander, the complaint is not against you, no one listens to ukrainian experts, these are people who sit on hot frying pans and scream, there is no point in listening to them, they wont say anything smart or good, you need to be able to hear. Smart analysts, they cant figure out who here the beneficiary really agrees that most likely this war, the conflict , may have been created in order to reformat the middle east, so if this reformatting begins, other states will be drawn into the conflict jordan, syria, egypt, iran, the rest, a big war will begin there, for a long time, but even if not for a long time, it will greatly distract everything, money, attention, and media from ukraine, for russia, of course. In his emotional breakthrough, i understand what caused his emotions, but dont misunderstand, here from my point of view, again, i was interested, im not an expert in the field of the middle east, but now im talking about yes, but the arabisraelis are peoples who are completely different, although related, but who are also very different and each other they hate their friend, the arabs dreamed of overthrowing the jew, we ukrainians dont celebrate very much right now, well, i live in kharkov. Where their children run around with pieces of wood instead of machine guns and shout death, the children need to be reeducated, you see, i never here, the principle of sytin is necessary apply in relation to to those people who killed people in kupinsk, who tried to filter them . We need to find them, find them, punish them, hang them publicly, i dont know whats wrong with him. I think its quite fast there, this is the activity of criminal law, they will quickly point the finger at them, no, we cannot use carpet bombing, just lets stop, otherwise now we will have bloodshed, in a couple of minutes we will continue, for the first time a ukrainian tv star who fled from kiev, from people who work in the special services, i know. 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This is the Meeting Place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. Since we miraculously did not allow some kind of bloody conflict in our studio in the previous part to cement this peaceful foundation. Once again i remind the audience of the Nizhny Novgorod region that i am bringing my concert. Program, a different format, to you, next weekend on saturday the 14th we meet at the gas palace of culture and on the 15th in the city of dzerzhinsk, at the dcc of chemists, the twentysecond kalining palace of culture for railway workers, 29th troitsky Cultural Center in st. Petersburg. Now we want to develop two topics from yesterdays program, one in the discussion part, and one right now in informational. Yes, come on, remember, yesterday we told you about this fake about 40 israelis. Babies who were beheaded by hamas militants, all this turned out to be fake, which one of the israeli journalists spread, but we then commented to you that this fake will live its own life and it is unclear where it will emerge, well, look, this fake has reached joe biden , who stated that he even saw with his own eyes photographs of these murdered and beheaded children. I never i thought that i would see confirmed photographs of the beheading. I didnt even think, well, okay , journalists, of course, upon hearing this , immediately began to find out where biden actually saw these photographs, then representatives of the white house had to blush and issue a special statement, that in fact neither biden nor the representative of the American Administration saw any photos, and biden had just talked with Benjamin Netanyahu before, and was so impressed by his words that he decided to lie a little, at the same time, about the israeli authorities. The information about the beheading of 40 babies and 40 children is not officially confirmed in any way, it turned out that british journalists tried to somehow make money on this highprofile story, but they are careful people and still decided to check something, thanks to a remark from the skynews presenter, it turned out that the publication contacted the israeli army three times in order to somehow try to confirm this rumor, but it did not work. Many british publications wrote about this and there were reports. 140 babies died and some of them were beheaded, incredible horror, we have not seen evidence of this, we have asked the israeli army three times to provide us with evidence and confirm these numbers, but they have not done so yet. But the american Billionaire Elon Musk and his social network x, we all remember it as twitter , are now blamed for the spread of antisemitic sentiments, and no one, but the whole european commissioner teeri briton, who threatens to block the social network x in europe, why . The form is allegedly used to distribute illegal content and disinformation, thats what he calls what everyone is writing about what is happening in the middle east , they gave a mask for 24 hours to solve the problem, but let us watch a piece of the french broadcast so that it is clear how the social network is being persuaded, attention, these images are not true, on social networks there are many accounts that distribute brutal videos of the confrontation between israel and hamas to demonstrate terrorist actions, some users use footage from video games, for example, this tweet, in which israeli helicopters are supposedly. Attacking palestinian, but in fact, these are frames from the computer game of the military simulator arma 3. Well, in the american segment of the internet there is now a lot of discussion about the Jewish Organization of the United States, which is called canary mission, this is a kind of analogue of the ukrainian site peacemaker, the authors there are actually those who works there, brings in all sorts of students, professors, famous people who in one way or another allowed themselves to speak out in favor of palestine, and accordingly gives. Their biography, names, where they work, well with quotes, getting on this list is extremely difficult, but after getting on this list certain consequences may follow, excuse the taftology, a person can be kicked out of work, or it becomes harder for him to just live, so lets listen to one of these people, they have a website , where they post everything you say, all comments in support of the other side, they can forward this information to your university or your employer. Be careful and stay calm. Well , lets have some more dessert, youre sure if if you havent heard of this, then you know the american singer justin bieber. So he published this beautiful post on his social networks, where he wrote i pray for israel. well, sometimes a person chooses a side. Its clear, but this inscription, i pray for israel, is against the background of this gray photograph. And gray. Photograph, this is one of the residential blocks that was destroyed by israeli bombings in the gas, well, in general, the persons logic is interesting, andrei vladimovich, the refraction of the gaze is remarkably interesting, not even that, well, jatin bibber is a man, young, inexperienced, his head is full of notes, its just that this morning the same story already happened to another representative of the american show biz, actress jamie curtis, at least from the series. People should know about halloween, by the way, shes really a good actress, shes about the same, she has a story with pictures, but ill tell you now why she s interesting to me in a different way, she posted photographs of children, israeli, that means, from those suffering from the bombings , naturally, after 5 minutes it turned out that these were palestinian children, and then she removed this, how can i say it, tweet, post, and this is where things get very interesting. The question, that is, it means, can be posted as evidence look, israeli children are suffering, and when it turns out that these are palestinian children, instead of apologizing there or or writing that the palestinian is simply cleaning everything up, that is, palestinian children are not allowed spread, she just considers these people, she doesnt consider them people, shes not embarrassed about it now i must admit, there are the right children, and there is a continuation of the conversation, which Alexander Nikolaevich began very emotionally here, well, for now we will stop it, so lets go back to i said that in the discussion part we also want to develop one of yesterdays topics today, this is when we spoke , can the arabisraeli or Israeli Palestinian conflict now spill out onto some other territories, seize some other countries, yes, involve new participants, which means that now we want to do things a little differently, because the story is serious, its not for nothing that the results of the atomic bombing of japan, a Nuclear Explosion are drawn here, that is, can this conflict lead to the fact that someone who has Nuclear Weapons, someone i mean in the world, will use these weapons. Lets start, probably , with israel itself and iran, as the countries that have Nuclear Weapons are most involved in this story now. Jerusalem does not officially confirm the presence of an atomic bomb. The american press, based on intelligence data, wrote that israel began developing Nuclear Weapons back in the late fifties of the last century, to help the israelis then in 1958, israel secretly began work on the site, which later became a Nuclear Test Site in demon. In 1961, ceru estimated that israel could produce Nuclear Weapons within a decade. By 1973, according to times journalists, israel had at least twenty atomic weapons in its arsenal. American researchers. Considered undesirable in russia, claims that in the same year, during the war doomsday, israel intended to use Nuclear Weapons. The israelis, one of the few nations whose survival is truly at risk, are perhaps more likely than any other country to actually use their Nuclear Weapons. Today, israel , according to the center for strategic and international studies, is much better equipped than. Years ago, most likely, the state has a nuclear triad, that is , it can deliver Nuclear Weapons from land, water and air. U israel has Ballistic Missiles and irikhon with a flight range of 500 to 7,000 km, thunder bombers and dolphin submarines. We need to use Nuclear Weapons before its too late. The situation is complicated by the fact that iran has either already created or is on the verge of creating its own nuclear bombs. The Associated Press reported this year that iran is building a secret Nuclear Bunker to either enrich uranium or store a nuclear bomb deep underground. Outside. Mountains are loaded so that the object does not suffer from possible attacks usa. In february of this year, the american publication bloomberg reported that International Observers discovered an atom in uranus that was not at all peaceful. According to them, tehran has already enriched uranium to 84 , which is only 6 below the level required to create Nuclear Weapons. Iran is on the verge of having enough material to make a nuclear bomb. Now this is the shortest time in which iran can create Nuclear Weapons. Maxim anatolyevich, you know how to weigh the pros and cons of arguments, thats who you think look, may not resist the temptation of israel or iran, apply the same . No, well, of course, only israel , in the event that its existence is jeopardized, now it is not set, now of course, it is not set and there is no point, not military, not political, but most importantly military, to use Nuclear Weapons against the palestinians , in this situation, only if, not against the palestinians, but if they believe that iran is ready to somehow intervene through hezbollah, against paktorgaz, we are probably not discussing here, its more likely the possibility of an israeli strike. Yes, i didnt just use the word temptation, does anyone have an idea that this crazy woman is tempted, theres no need to write about it, look, if there is a situation where israel is losing a war, an ordinary one, well , lets say they overestimated their strength with hamas, we have already seen this, if they overestimated their strength with hezbollah, and hezbollah will enter and break through their fortifications in the north and will also go to capture some cities, if there is an uprising in the very israel, arabs, if the western rebels, if the situation becomes critical, then israel, which finds itself on the verge of destruction , god forbid, i think this will not happen, may use Nuclear Weapons, listen, this is the same as with us, we dont applicable, but if suddenly there is a catastrophic scenario in ukraine, everything falls apart, god forbid there are national republics there, then. Look, if israel loses for some reason to the coalition of hamas rebels on the west bank, perhaps even the khazbaws, it is of course nuclear will not use weapons, because that there is no one against. To change, these are network actors, who will you bomb, beirut, or what . No, in this situation, israel will be saved by the United States, which will enter the war, as if this is obvious, but if iran enters, then Nuclear Weapons will be used and the tragedy is, well, well, most likely the tragedy is i dont know that neither iran, nor israel, nor the United States want this, it seems to me that now it is impossible to be sure of anything at all, because the day. Temptation to hit some Nuclear Facilities iran, look, these are bad guys, we wanted it for a long time, we even beat them , as far as i remember, iran doesnt want war, iran doesnt want to go to war, its not profitable for it, but if hezbollah enters, iran will enter, and hezbollah comes in if there are too many victims, you see , so this is the one on whom everything interestingly depends, this is this chain, this is the first domino, who is it, from hamas, why did hamas start it all, hamas launched these chain processes, which i later joined israel, everyone else joined in, hamas did not leave israel a choice, israel did not leave the elections to khazbala, khazbala did not leave the elections to iran and about the temptation. To strike iranian Nuclear Facilities, this is netanyahus interest, the question is how suicidal he is in this interest , because this is suicide for israel , yes, because a strike on iranian, iranian Nuclear Facilities will entail irans fullscale entry into the war, and now there is a direct americaniranian war, here its like in a movie a predator against a stranger, who no matter who wins, people will lose, no matter who wins, people will lose, i actually wanted viktorovich on the one hand, but before that, konstantin valentich. When we talk about iran, we are absolutely sure that there is a nuclear bomb there, or whatever, because you know how long i have been alive, once a month a publication comes out, bloomberg, reuters, iran is one step away, two steps away , half a step away from creation, but it cant stand there for 20 years, as long as ive been watching, but they probably already have something lying around somewhere for a rainy day, this means that japan is also half a step away, now well talk about everyone else later. This has been going on for at least a year and a half, so irans Nuclear Weapons have been in the world for more than a year, no matter how long ive been working , iran is always in step, this is much more than two years, even much more, 84 United Uranium this is not a Nuclear Weapon yet, but for it to become a Nuclear Weapon, even 9095 . We need more of it. This nuclear bomb must be tested, as north korea tested, this is immediately recorded, so no one shoots it will happen, this time, but here the matter is different, you see, now everyone is saying that iran is behind this. Hezbollah, then Something Else, for hamas, i ask a simple question, what was the political goal of hezbollah in general , to defeat, lets not talk about that now, because i understand that you can sit straight, but today we wanted concentrate, we are talking about, this determines what they were talking about, whether there will be or will not be nuclear under what conditions, we are simply talking about the fact that i have a Firm Conviction that at least without. Action the israeli leadership did not prevent hezbollah from preparing for this operation. Hamas is preparing for this, this is my personal opinion. Yes, in these conditions, in order to resolve the palestinian issue once and for all, in these conditions, yes , we can consider the conditions for the use of Nuclear Weapons, and Nuclear Weapons will enter in the event that there is no opposition. Israel will undertake military actions by regular armies, on a scale capable of defeating this israel, but now this is not being considered, american aircraft carriers located in the Eastern Mediterranean are now the second one is coming, there is also a british aircraft carrier, they are focused on ensuring deterrence at the same time, ensuring controlled expansion into adjacent territories with the aim of defeating that one, thank you, otherwise we will not move as much as iran along the path of uranium enrichment. No, i am on the one hand, since he, he reacted words, about the circumstances of how this war could begin, i understand that you do not agree, well , firstly, with regard to the statement of the deputy gottleb, from the Israeli Parliament , it resembles the statement of some of our experts who are calling for nuclear strikes on ukraine are absolutely irresponsible, not only irresponsible, but contrary to the logic of the statement, since anyone who. Knows something basic about geography, gas, israel, the west bank, understands that any use Nuclear Weapons in these territories will entail, accordingly, a corresponding consequence for the israeli, resolving the issue once and for all for these israeli hawks, lets call them that, means the destruction of iran, which is behind everything, israel has in history of attempts in general, even successful inflicting various kinds of damage to iranian Nuclear Facilities, they demand in parliament, they shout death to israel, let us put an end to them once and for all, many people not only in iran, but in the arab world, in other countries, that shouts in parliament, this is not a reason to use Nuclear Weapons , the israeli leadership understands perfectly well what consequences in terms of International Isolation and the consequences , including from its western allies, will follow in the event of the use of Nuclear Weapons weapons. Use by israel, unprovoked use of Nuclear Weapons by israel. Nuclear weapons in the hands of israel are a weapon of deterrence, deterrence, not in order to destroy some other states, it would be neva, now yes as a weapon of retaliation too, now that deterrence and retaliation are different things, deterrence means , that you never, this means that you will never use it, retribution. Im just not up to date with military doctrine, deterrence, i may not be up to date with military doctrine, but im aware of what it is synonyms, and i completely disagree with you, this is not synonymous deterrence this is an understanding to your opponents that in the event of a strike in our country, which concerns very briefly iranian Nuclear Weapons, most likely iran at the moment, here i agree with konstantin valentinovich, there are no Nuclear Weapons yet, from which we can draw such a conclusion and a country that is under constant threat, where terrorist attacks occur at Nuclear Industry facilities, at military facilities, if iran had already received Nuclear Weapons, it he, like north korea, like a number of other countries, would have made it known, perhaps he would not have officially announced it, he would have done as israel does, that is , israel does not officially recognize that it has Nuclear Weapons, so that the mgt did not conduct any inspections there, but at the same time. Do everything so that everyone in the world knows that it has it, as soon as iran gets Nuclear Weapons, gets them, then tehran will undoubtedly do so in approximately the same way, in order to protect yourself, everything therefore, all israelis know where they have this Dimona Nuclear center, because there are signs everywhere, you drive along the road , it says, nuclear bomb there, if we have time, we are now the story with iranian Nuclear Weapons, it is very simple, as soon as iran declares through testing. For example, that it has a nuclear bomb, this will be a signal for an Israeli Attack on iran, including with the use of Nuclear Weapons, israel has repeatedly, even despite what viktorich said about the position of the americans, which despite this, israelis, the interests of israelis and americans diverge quite strongly, the interests between the Jewish Community in america and the israelis, they are opposite and opposite, they do not coincide much, in america it is focused on the interests of the United States, the israelis on israel, these are different interests. And israel will start a nuclear war if it finds out that iran has a bomb. There is no doubt about it. Yes, on the other hand, iran has the ability to fight against israel using hezbollah, and we know that iran has a large the number of good missiles and the same drones, with a range of several hundred kilometers, so far they have not flown, namely the iranian ones. Yes, drones from the territory of lebanon and syria to israel, until then iran has not entered into this war, if it does, we will find out because iranian drones will fly, nikolai igorevich, you are sitting like that , we still have time, yes, you were sitting like that you wrote down something, you record some numbers , something to react to, but in general we dont have much time, everything that we are discussing now, which i think many viewers understand, is that we are rapidly entering, most likely already. Have entered into a state of world chaos, when you can be sure, you can be sure of one thing, what you cannot be sure of, this is absolutely true, because so much, if likely, it is implied that everything can happen, you cant propose somehow and even argue, you somehow understand in general phrases, now i would like to look at a person who knows how to specifically resolve right now what has been happening for many thousands of years in different forms, and now explodes at all points, look, now all potentially hot spots will explode, and now this happened in another one, if you try to remember that dont wait for anything, since you are like this now, nikolavich, wait, maybe in which one . From these hot spots to explode using Something Like this, you really think seriously. Maybe in this there is a very serious danger of everything that is happening, because yes, it is impossible to confirm from israel, but probably based on the estimates that exist, what they really have there are, many countries have Nuclear Weapons, although they probably have them, that Nine Countries now in the world have Nuclear Weapons, this is already a lot, and we can argue for how long with the United States, it will come up somewhere else, because that control is lost, in different formats it is called multipolarity, so. All this will be forgiven within a short time , if anything, no one will be able to discuss it, if anything, it took multipolarity, ruined my dream, and in general, the Bright Building of our achievements, a break , checking documents, who will handle the birth, shibnov, of course, fire open. 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On october 5, Vladimir Putin, speaking at the valdai forum, made it clear that russia could refuse to participate in the Nuclear Test Ban treaty and this would be a mirror response to the actions of the United States, and on october 10 , our Foreign Ministry announced that the United States had begun preparations for Nuclear Tests in test site in nevada, and russia, apparently, will have to act mirrored i already hear calls, for example, to Start Testing Nuclear Weapons. The United States signed the corresponding international act, document, treaty on the ban. To test Nuclear Weapons, and russia signed it, russia signed and ratified , and the United States signed but did not ratify, theoretically it is possible to revoke this ratification, it is enough, if we do this, that will be quite enough. The state duma decided not to delay the issue; next week, as the chairman, vyacheslav volodin, said, the duma council will discuss whether to revoke the ratification of the test ban treaty. The decision to revoke ratification is consistent with the National Interests of our state and will be a mirror response from the United States, which never ratified the treaty. In the west, russias plans caused an extremely nervous reaction. The United States is even discussing how to punish our country for future Nuclear Tests, and is already preparing its allies for an angry reaction. In the meantime , american experts have taken to the usual ski track. Be afraid, damned russians, we wont let you get away with this. In fact he will bet that russia can get away with it, but a return to nuclear testing, a generally accepted taboo, could backfire on moscow. Gevorevich , as you see all this, we really want russia too, we really want to conduct some kind of Nuclear Tests, or we just, in the Current Conditions , realized that we have been waiting for 23 years. From the americans , when they finally get it, and now , taking into account everything, the whole gamut of our feelings for each other, there is no need to expect anything, and we are simply equalizing, which means, look at your answer have already been answered by the Foreign Ministry in our Representative Office in vienna, first mr. Rebkov, for the minister of Foreign Affairs, said that we are simply mirroring the americans, that we are simply going out and revoking ratification, but at the same time we are not going to use Nuclear Weapons, now to carry out Nuclear Tests, for now, after that madam spoke. Rrovova from our Representative Office at the vienna disarmament board, she said that we will not be the first to do this, if the americans conduct Nuclear Tests, only then will we respond, that is, she has actually now mirrored her putin in february, his message to the federal assembly, where he said this, that is, the situation was played back a little, but why is this being done, the purpose of this whole story is not just to throw some piece of paper in the trash, this whole story was to demonstrate to the americans russias determination to follow paths of nuclear escalation, that is, approximately what mr. Karaganov wrote about in his article, although karaganov proposed, for the sake of this determination, to hit poland somewhere with a nuclear bomb, but here we are simply talking about a demonstrative withdrawal from the agreement, judging by i just showed it to his face now that he s not talking about destroying poland, thats not the goal, the goal is to show that we are ready to follow the nuclear path. Is it somehow leading us down the path of escalation, and we are simply equalizing the situation that was, well, what is it, where are we escalating it, why are the americans categorically against testing Nuclear Weapons, and, as it were , russias withdrawal from the treaty, because that the americans are the World Champion in nonnuclear power if someone takes steps towards using Nuclear Weapons, and then, god forbid, he uses it, even in a small volume, local, with low power and so on, this opens the door for those same Nine Countries, including themselves. Korea, which can use it, yes, this Nuclear Weapons, those who have them, due to this, due to the world approaching the use of Nuclear Weapons, not nuclear american power, all these trillions of dollars spent on aircraft carriers, everything else, they turn into floating trash, no one needs, because the main one becomes Nuclear Weapons, they have some there are great military achievements, we need to discuss this topic with the taliban, we still need to, under all circumstances. The value of nonnuclear power is sharply devalued, this is exactly what the americans are afraid of, this is their main task, so they are categorically against they will do everything to prevent this from happening, in the story that you showed, there were the words a generally recognized taboo, that is the americans goal is to have Nuclear Weapons, but they were never used under circumstances, it was shameful and absolutely it is unacceptable to even think about using Nuclear Weapons. To explain this situation, we need to call on the classics for help, Lev Nikolayevich tolstoy wrote about leonid andreev, he scares, but i m not afraid, the problem is that the west is not afraid, thats why we need a Nuclear Doctrine if they are not afraid and do not believe that we will someday turn to Nuclear Weapons, and if they dont believe, then we can strangle them economically, economically weaker in a conventional war, try to somehow break us, so they need to be afraid, but they are not afraid, no matter what, here what to do, he says that you cant be sure of the situation, through. Nuclear, well, like through tests, then Something Else, then these 20 steps that karaganov spoke about. Karaganov, of course, sergei alexandrovich, a holy man in the past and now has become almost an adept , so you dont respect him anymore, yes, i love him, moreover, i love him, but he plays this role, you know, thats what we are now were doing it internationally, lets call a spade a spade, come on, were imitating madness, but no one believes that were being mad, why . Are they afraid of kimchan . Because they are sure that he is mad and he can really use Nuclear Weapons, as for us, they believe that deep down, we are normal, we want to live, Nuclear Weapons are not applicable, that this is all puke, so we inflate it as much as possible rates, not maximally, as incorrectly as possible, we gradually increase the stakes so that they still get scared, but whether they get scared or not, i dont know, i still dont understand how we imitate madness, but nevertheless viktorovich, right . Ill tell you a little secret, even km chenen is not far from mad, he is quite pragmatic, and the results that he achieves, he, in principle, for the security of his country, he achieved them, not everything he wants, but a lot, and in the west they also understand this, but what concerns, that means, wait, if i understand correctly, it means that you can achieve some results in an attempt to ensure the security of your country, including somehow using this nuclear rhetoric, he is interested in the following, he has a very modest requests from russia, north korea, she is a little differs in its weight in International Relations from the russian federation, the modest requests of north korea, this is not a direct attack from south korea and the United States and their allies, but the inability to change the regime in kikinyan, thats all, thats all, he doesnt achieve anything more with this and doesnt will achieve it, because why . Because it means what the state duma is doing now, a step towards deratification, there is not exactly deratification, but the point is, the point is that this should send a signal, and to the americans, send a signal to nato, that russia is really ready move along this scale of escalation, but lets calculate, its just that everyone in the west understands perfectly well how this will work, lets imagine that russia at some point will completely withdraw from this treaty, and the last test. Conducted by the americans in 1992 at their test site in nevada, lets just assume that russia will conduct tests somewhere on there on new land, somewhere else, what will follow this, what will follow next, the americans will conduct at home tests, perhaps the british will also conduct them somewhere, perhaps not, but the americans will definitely conduct them, lets say russia will conduct more tests after this, this was the case during the last cold war, this did not affect any proxy conflict at all, not one , american. That there is determination and everyone believed in that very principle is guaranteed. There is, but there is no faith anymore, the reinforced concrete faith that saved us all these decades from nuclear war, it is gone, so there is no nuclear war, no one is afraid of nuclear war or dont be afraid, were just talking about different things, in general, there is some misunderstanding. Today we are not talking about a Large Nuclear war that could threaten the existence of humanity, there is no such thing, but the threat of a Small Nuclear war with the use of lowpower Nuclear Weapons for tactical purposes, this threat exists, in fact, today we are talking about just this Small Nuclear war war, relatively speaking, an explosion in europe, radioactive contamination to america. Wont reach us, and it wont reach us either, but it can reach us, because the wind rose is western, so, but such a small little application, it just becomes more probable, and we are not talking about a major war, global with the destruction of civilization, so when we talk about mutual destruction there, there is no such thing today, there is no such threat for us, so let s take a moment, because we have , as it were, the first bloc there, israel, iran, now we have america, and much more. 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This is the Meeting Place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. We continue. Thats what i said that yes, there is, as it were, a concept of a nuclear club, but in fact, in the prebay area of ​​this club there are a lot of people milling around, trampling around. This does not mean that all these countries want them to have Nuclear Weapons, but they , in principle, can afford them, simply even based on their own, as it were, data and financial everything else, look, thats whats yellow on this map in the sign on the map, this is actually the most nuclear club, but we still included israel there, well, because, well, it s stupid in general to pretend that israel doesnt have Nuclear Weapons, there is russia, the usa, france, china, india, pakistan, north korea, this, i dont know, pink color, and these are just those countries that, in principle, after some time, if desired, could to get weapons, japan, south korea, taiwan, ukraine, ukraine really wants it, turkey, egypt, saudi arabia, iran, brazil, here, konstantin valentinovich, here in pink, if, who has the greatest chances and who potentially the most dangerous, yeah, whoever destroys this balance, maybe, that means big chances japan, south korea, yeah, uh, iran, saudis, yes, well, saudis , to a lesser extent, japan, south korea, iran, i would highlight the most important ones, but egypt, egypt not yet, thats who, who this is needed, its really needed, well, except probably for ukraine, most of all now. Heres everyone else, japan, yes, probably yes, but not really, iran, yes, of course, and this will serve to increase global tension , or vice versa, as if it were greater deterrence, well , good, well, you know, Nuclear Weapons are the kind of thing that stabilizes the situation, north korea is the best example for you, look, while north korea did not have Nuclear Weapons, especially intercontinental , strategic ones, there were constantly provocations, all kinds of threatening exercises, when these weapons appeared, all this somehow died down and the relevance is around all this fell, decreased, paradoxically, i am a supporter of the views of mcnamara, who said that Nuclear Weapons are a great benefit that prevents major wars. Thats why yes, iran will appear Nuclear Weapons, and any serious provocations against iran will stop, quite clearly. Brazil, i have no idea what im in for. Well, they have a long history there, they abandoned it several years ago , but at first they considered saudi arabia , we definitely included brazil here simply because they have the capacity and they have such a large plant, there are two countries that had Nuclear Weapons and they refused; she would need Nuclear Weapons immediately after iran created it, mahamed said so, come on nikolai, here is your opinion, here konstantin believes that, well, you can say so, it will be a little more calm, no, you dont know at all, i, when you were talking, i would compare Nuclear Weapons with gelatin, because up, the blade is brought up, the person is put down there, he is so calm, he is unstable lies, and then she can, you can imagine, i think you can imagine that the person there, that the person who is under the knife, physically, he is calm, inside him is what is happening now with us, and then he will fall or it wont go down, you know, there are risks they are increasing, i want to say again, then we wont be able to work with you. For some reason youre here before the advertisements, i think its very important to say this, it was again said that you can use tactical Nuclear Weapons, in general, its okay , well, they will die there, well, if not hundreds, well then that means tens of thousands of people will die, its okay, what else , did i say that its already good, i was just telling a story, it wasnt you who told it, that is, its still scary, its already good. But you can look at the person who guarantees preventing such a Small Nuclear war from escalating into a big war, the destruction of humanity, there is no such person, so when you ask what needs to be done to calm down the conflict there now, but at least not to add to it ourselves, at least not to create it ourselves, if russia didnt have if there were Nuclear Weapons, we would have been bombed long ago, at least not to create them ourselves now, im not talking about russia now, im not talking about very many experts in the west now , suggesting that this is a fantasy, that russia can actually use Nuclear Weapons there is such a big misconception, and even everything is written in the doctrine that if there is an existential threat, only everyone perceives the existential threat differently, and unfortunately the consequences even from the tests will be very severe, so a short pause, we return to the air, let us down the result of the conversation. 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On ntv, the Meeting Place, regarding the last part, can any of the local conflicts currently existing in the world still provoke the beginning of a nuclear confrontation, alexey nikolaevich, well, the current conflict in israel in the gas sector , we received fresh news that Israel Attacked the territory of syria, what is it. Syria, and then iran goes to war, that is, israel is trying to decide to kill all birds with one stone, in this case i am afraid that being drawn into the war could lead to a nuclear conflict, so victor jose, i would like to hope that despite the menacing rhetoric, cool heads will prevail in russianamerican relations, in the middle east, on the korean peninsula, and we will not see the outbreak of a nuclear war, whether using tactical or strategic weapons, of any kind. Consequences geggorich, well, there are two conflicts that can lead to the outbreak of a nuclear war, this is the north korean, well, the korean conflict and the middle east conflict, but others will not lead to the outbreak, others will lead to a much more, perhaps unpleasant scenario, namely the proliferation of Nuclear Weapons throughout the world, when saudi arabia and a number of other countries will also want to go nuclear for their own safety, maxim, and in total i counted six such potential conflicts, of which i do not exclude three in descending order, korean in first place, middle eastern in second, russianukrainian, unfortunately in the third, where i exclude it is chinesetaiwanese , and indopakistani and indochinese will not be there, yes, well, please, on a large scale, i know one place where it explodes almost every day a little nuclear bomb, these are the comments in our telegram channel, it s been especially hot there in recent days, due to the aggravation in the middle east, im just all. 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