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Meanwhile, the United States and europe are arguing over which of them should allocate more money for ukraine. Thats what were talking about. Well talk in detail today, lets, i just know, what was i thinking now , that look, the situation is deteriorating before our eyes, yes, well, who else, as they say, said just recently that you and i will be serious , to speak, on this high expert level that there could be an exchange of nuclear strikes, Nuclear Weapons could be used in the world, but nevertheless this is a fact and there is such a danger, let s hope that this will not happen, of course, but there is such a danger, lets start with where , lets listen to the president , lets listen to the president , what he said about these very tests, i hear already calls , for example, to Start Testing Nuclear Weapons, to return to testing, heres what i would say, the United States has signed the corresponding international act, document, Nuclear Weapons test ban treaty. And russia signed it, russia signed and ratified, and the United States signed but did not ratify. In principle, it is possible to behave in a mirror manner with those, but this is a question for the state duma department, theoretically it is possible to revoke this ratification, it is enough if we do this, that will be quite enough, they reacted, and volodin stated that in principle they will begin to consider this issue, there is a statement from volodin, at the next meeting of the state duma council we will definitely discuss question of withdrawal of ratification. On a comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban. This is in the National Interest of our state and will be a mirror response to the states that have not yet ratified the treaty. The topic of these same tests has been raised regularly lately. And you remember, in my opinion, there was an initiative. Ragozin, yes, in my opinion, voiced, yes, her, yes, he said that lets go back to these very tests and then everyone immediately started talking, no, no, we dont need to do this, we dont need to do this, on the contrary, quite recently our foreign minister called on the United States to quickly ratify this very treaty. And look, the situation is changing, how the situation is changing and we are really ready to consider it, in the west, in the west nikolai , they started talking and putin has his finger on the nuclear button, that is , putin hasnt said anything yet, he said that we will do the same the most important thing is that the americans, yes, that is, we will return to the same positions that they had initially. That is, without any ratification, but they say that s it, the caribbean crisis, and a little more, now this will begin, in fact, and both countries will begin to press on these buttons, why do you think they have such a nervous reaction, well, because they they always dont allow their opponents, that is, us to do what they allow themselves to do, you remembered the cuban missile crisis , it started, not me, its them, they remember it from time to time, it started when we placed weapons far from the United States america, they are now posting weapons always tried to place them next to us, and this did not bother them in any way, they did not consider it as a provocative step , they simply can, we cannot, this is part of their worldview, this beautiful blooming garden is them, which means there is a jungle around this is us, if you dig into this western civilization and get to antiquity, it means ancient rome , ancient greece and barbarians, nothing has changed since that time, they can do everything else. They cant, the president in his speech in maldai devoted a lot to this the difference between civilization and the difference approach of our civilization and western civilization. In fact, the western approach is very simple civilization is only them, everyone else should be like them, should strive to enter the west or to be patted on the shoulder by the west, but in the end vladimirovich said the main phrase, who are you , who are you to dictate to others. Do you want to show everyone, this very moment, this was such a bright moment, lets show the president again, they are trying to replace International Law with an order, what order . Based on some rules, what rules, what kind of rules they are, who invented them is completely incomprehensible, but this is just some kind of nonsense, its all done and said, as a rule, in an openly boorish form, its all the same manifestation of this colony of colonial thinking , we hear all the time, it sounds all the time, you should, you must, that was such a good performance , who are you, well, youre exactly right about this, but what do you think, now they understand, actually , they see our reaction, they see that we are ready to defend their own positions, their security, they see it, they havent grown wiser, as you think, maybe not that theyve grown wiser, maybe theyve understood something, that maybe it makes sense in some other way, no, well, there was also a small discussion about this at the valdai forum, when, in my opinion, koraganov said that they had lost fear, the west, had lost fear, and returning to the withdrawal of ratification of the Nuclear Test Ban treaty, this is essentially, well, probably the last warning , it was possible to withdraw from the agreement, but vladimir, he always tries to give a chance, to explain again, appeals to reason , now, in principle, russia will return to the level at which the United States is, america is waiting for this, because it is pointing a finger, they will be at you, you know, it is just pointing a finger at you, they will be at you , they will poke at the whole west, they will find one more additional excuse , which is why, felix, i understand that an excuse can be found, its all clear, its even clear what they will do, well, look, yes, states are going to Deploy Nuclear warheads in Great Britain, Great Britain has its own, they also want american ones on their territory, this is in addition to american Nuclear Weapons, attention, in belgium, germany, the netherlands, and italy, turkey, it is clear what they are doing, but for what, in to justify what, to justify the fact that we just pressed this button, but we pressed it because the russians are bad, well, thats what deterrence is. Ukraine, these are opening money channels, precisely in this confrontation that is taking place, it seems to me, felix, it seems to me that if our the president at the valdai forum would declare that we will completely disarm, hand over Nuclear Weapons, give up, give up, listen, give up kuban, voronezh, rostov, naturally crimea there, and so on, and so on, plus well give it back to the americans there, i dont i know that everything is there, on our shore of the bering strait, yes, all the same, the position would not have changed, thats the paradox, you see, the position has not changed, but there are always events that are very beneficial, can be reflected and can make some noise in three months to justify some, its okay to make some noise, its okay to make some noise. But we are talking about completely different things, well, just if you need to conduct Nuclear Tests , because there are gaps in science, and when were the last Nuclear Tests, i think you know everything, in the late eighties, in my opinion, no, americans 1992, you dont know, i just know, india was the last to go through the last Nuclear Tests , followed by pakistan, korea, north korea , we dont count, because they dont seem to have anything yet, of the Nuclear Powers was india, followed by pakistan, we, in my opinion, if im not mistaken, sergei badivich, correct me, ninetyfirst, 1990, thats it, yes, now we are returning, lets say to these Nuclear Tests, people who talked about this for a long time, they, they said, what did they say, what if . Lets carry out these Nuclear Tests, humanity will again see what kind of terrible weapon this is, because all these pictures with this mushroom, but this fungus, remember, what we see with you are old pictures, and people who live today and manage certain states, they simply dont know what it is, they have forgotten what it is, that is why there is such aggressiveness, including primarily among your guys there, many experts actually explain the aggressiveness with this, they say lets resume, in order to refresh their memory, so that they understand, then , as they say, their brains will fall into place, such a scheme will work, as you think, im not sure it will work, so. We have a little about history, there were two international documents Nuclear Test Ban, first treaty sixty third year about a partial ban in three environments to test, and even after the sixtythird year it worked, by the way , it played a huge stabilizing role, why the sixtythird cuban missile crisis was mentioned here, yes, and there were negotiations, negotiations about how to ban completely Nuclear Tests, which regularly continued, finally in 96 a comprehensive treaty was signed on a comprehensive ban on Nuclear Weapons everywhere, no one can either test or provide their territory, what was tested, it was submitted and was perceived as the final victory of humanity as a whole over the Nuclear Threat, 183 countries signed, 183, i dont remember exactly, but more than 160 ratified, ratified, but some countries with Nuclear Weapons, in particular the United States, never ratified, because they believed that the United States is really in a special position and that maybe they will need it again , they will still need to try something, there is one more technical point, in the United States there is no technology, they have not developed it yet, didnt invest money. Regular updating of these very stocks of Nuclear Weapons, there are some technologies, it is necessary to update the initiating block with determin, it is necessary to update the plutonium and so on, but they believed that if necessary, we would rather not invest here, we would rather test something again, now, now we have actually come to the point where we can, without fighting , scare you very seriously, simply by demonstrating with tests what we can do to you, that is, we are actually opening the way again for mutual blackmail by nuclear destruction, and this is indeed a very serious step back, compared to the period of the nineties , when we seemed to have defeated the Nuclear Threat and seemingly forever, no, it turned out not forever, the Nuclear Threat, the threat of the destruction of all humanity returned to us again, lets lets listen to the president on this topic, something needs to be done about it, lets listen to putin. In Russian Military doctrine, there are two reasons for the possible use of Nuclear Weapons by russia. The first is the application in in relation to us, that is, in response to a counter strike, so to speak. All this happens in seconds so that everyone understands. So many hundreds of our missiles appear in the air that not a single enemy has a chance of survival. On several fronts, the second, the second reason for the use of these weapons is a threat to the existence of the russian state, do we need to change this . Everything can be changed, i just dont see the need for this, there is no situation in which, uh, well, lets say today something would threaten the russian statehood and the existence of the russian state, i think what sane person. With a clear memory would not think of using Nuclear Weapons against russia. Alexander, do you agree with the president that today there are no such people, not a Single Person who would come up with such an idea, to use Nuclear Weapons against russia. In my opinion, indeed, perhaps, there will be no real use of Nuclear Weapons against russia, because our opponents are of course arrogant, sometimes not very smart, especially if you look at degenerate. Political class in europe, but they are not suicides , any tactic of a street hooligan is to get the maximum of material benefits from the victim, to receive minimal damage, if he sees that something is not working out, he makes his own moves, accordingly, he himself if we have already started talking about civilizations, about the civilizational code , the markers of this or that civilization, then the european culturalhistorical type, as Nikolai Danilevsky called it, has certain markers, these are violence , lust for power, and roman roland agreed with this, when he wrote his. With a warning to america, when he said that the american character is very onesided, it cannot, organically cannot listen to the opinion of another person, and here it is really, probably, to scare, as it should, this exploded global bandit, perhaps its worth it, but uh, military technologies, they dont stand still, what the nuclear shield and sword of the country in the sixties and eighties were , now may well surpass technologies such as hypersound or others. Alternative means of destruction, therefore, it seems to me that russia needs not to be afraid of the nuclear club of the United States there, but to develop breakthrough military technologies that can bypass the pro system, which, by the way, they began to install in Eastern Europe in what year in 2006, 2007, motivated by supposed protection from iran. Therefore, here it is necessary to be proactive, without getting drawn into the Costly Nuclear arms race, which our opponents are now actively imposing on us, to use to the maximum the technological groundwork that we have achieved now and so in this way, they already impose their conditions, including delivery vehicles , means of destruction, on the enemy, just as the americans were worried about our flamethrower systems, that they should be banned, because they do not have similar systems and do not have the means to effectively combat them, to impose on the enemy, such weapons such as means of delivery of the same Nuclear Weapons, against which he , apart from hysteria in his parliaments or european assemblies, simply cannot do anything to make the race get drawn in, but not at great cost impose, impose on your own terms, how else will it be the dueling code of the 21st century shot second, and died first, yes, just look, they reason like this, they initially reasoned this way, here they are, when they came out of the agreement in the first place, and they told us these fairy tales that they are placing all this in europe, so that, yes, to protect themselves from iranian and korean missiles, for a second , yes, they, you know, without flinching , talked about it, thinking that there are idiots all around, yes, who theyll bite, they tried then to deceive us, we put this whole thing for disposal when we agreed on priority, remember the agreement that we have with them , these are all these body movements there with all these systems about, but they reason like this, they say, listen , and i even read this somewhere in all seriousness, they talk about it, of course they have all these rockets, everything, but it wont fly, because its all old, it wont start and wont fly, you know, this is professional there was an expert assessment, and if such a point of view is also yes, this is very dangerous, on the one hand. Such a point of view is present, on the other hand, here it is necessary to always divide the words of our opponents by 10, and the beautiful statements of enemy experts that nothing will fly for them, nothing will work, here, too, it is also necessary to perceive in my opinion, through lets say, dividing by 10 , these propaganda ones, maybe for this it makes sense to demonstrate something that turns out and flies and explodes very well Vladimir Vladimirov, what do you think in general, thats what all this is for, thats why they are in unison like this, by and large, they even already allow this option, you know, this exchange of nuclear strikes, all for the sake of what, because of what, because of because they invested some money there, have some interests in ukraine, or what . Six months ago, german experts, austrian generals, nato generals, everyone who is retired, everyone who has the courage to talk about this, everyone said that if the bear wakes up, then the nuclear mace is just his the method will be. With us, this was said by a nato, german general, well, for some reason, all the retirees, the model of destroying economic russia did not work, well, thats it, we can put an end to this epic, i dont know what other nonsense can happen, that is they really want to destroy us, thats right, good, if not destroyed on the principle of not catching up, ill warm up, well, that is, there is some kind of economic harm, there are benefits in trade with china in the usa, in the coming years the destruction of the wto system, swift and so on, well done, but there will be another one system, this is a delay in the historical process for two or. Well, three decades, everything will be restored, if we look at the speech of adolf hitler, when he met with the romanian deputy Prime Minister and the minister of Foreign Affairs of romania, he argued that there is a bioproblem on the territory of europe, the russian slavs, for example , must be destroyed, because this is a bioproblem, that is, this is not just a political problem, think about it, this is a bioproblem, and its funny to me when we also repeat this narrative constantly democracy, they reproach us, we are not a democracy , you know what, lets tell the truth, demos is not the people, it is a free citizen of rome, who had slaves, whatever you want, and the city is power, democracy is power, free citizens who had slaves, they didnt change anything, they tell the truth, and we repeat after them, this is not the best according to churchill, well, at least attribute this phrase to him about how no one has come up with anything better than democrats and in a systematic approach against russia, i believe that it is necessary to divide politicians into several categories, but i cannot put orban in the same team with scholz, with barbock, ursula fondelai, and zelensky too. Well, this group raumshtein, as some commentators reacted, the ramshtein group led by zelsky should climb up russia and demonstrate their determination and the impossibility of conquering us , motherfucker, did someone want to conquer you or something, but uh, i didnt see not a single Expert Opinion in the context that in the old days we talked about this too they said, what if a white swan appears in venezuela, and what if its still there, well, now its clear, but its not necessary. More, but its not necessary, and if a nuclear test occurs, then i think its not the demos that will wake up, but the populus, the real people, will wake up , because today, i think, talking neither with biden, nor with scholz, nor with macron, nor with toltenberg, but its useless, they have a circular couple, they are all stained with everything, in blood, in death, in the destruction of ukrainians as a people, in fact in our enmity, which exists today, if the people want talk. With their rulers, for them, how did she not shut up, the speech needs some kind of message, and i believe that Nuclear Tests, that is, people will see, this is what the press, well, will not be able to shut up, so Vladimir Vladimirov , well, there is something in this, yes, there is something in this, in order , firstly, to actually demonstrate that not everything is rusty and Something Else flies, yes, and so that they understand, that these are forces, there is something in this idea, well, the fact that rockets fly is demonstrated periodically and they do not fly without nuclear warheads, thank god, here, and now it is also proposed to demonstrate how warheads explode, we will return to this studio in just a few minutes and continue the conversation with our guests, while some were shouting about their primacy, we created, launched, implemented, without distraction for conversations, betting league bet on yourself, dont miss the Central Television first information show about the events and people of the week. 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This is the program our truth, we continue to talk about the valdai forum, a lot of interesting statements were made there, well, about the situation around ukraine. Nikolai, heres a question do you remember the times when we offered them our entry into nato . Of course, i remember, i even discussed this with you here in this studio, about, i think, about a year and a half or two ago. About the threat of a real nuclear war, you say, no one discussed, you and i discussed here, discussed, we discussed, im not me, no, no, no, i meant that, you understand that the situation is just like this, here not very good, if we are discussing this topic, the situation is very bad, yes, now look , do you remember the times when we offered them a single European Security zone, from lisbon to what . To vladivostok, and we were even ready for them with our own systems, but the goal was offered to the urals, and we expanded the east, yes and they even said that guys, why do you need this if we remember all these arguments of theirs, when they came out of the treaty propro, we told them why are you doing this, take all our systems about warning, about missile attacks, and turn them on into this whole common system and we will live wonderfully, do you remember that . A novel, i cant help but remember this, because at the beginning of 2000 evlinsky was preparing. This is a project and he submitted it, and of course we are very hurt that it was not accepted then, was not accepted then, but unfortunately, yes, the times have passed, we are now, look, nikolai , pay attention, they refused then, they refused in vladivostok, lisbon, they generally refuse in any direction that would imply the integration of russia into this. Here is the global west, even a basic question, remember , with visas, i wanted to tell you, the visa until 2012, everything went correctly , in the twelfth year it changed, you know, it seems to me that when this happened, they came to yaroslav, if i didnt im wrong, theyre all came to yaroslavl, but in yaroslavl it sounded wonderful, i dont remember which of them said one of these there, they communicated with medvedev there absolutely correctly, and they just said a completely wonderful reason why they cannot agree to abolish the visa regime with russia, it turns out, because we do not have a visa regime with tajikistan, there is uzbekistan with different countries, yes, and it would seem, what difference does it make whether we have a visa regime with them or not, a citizen of tajikistan comes to russia without a visa, this is the same doesnt mean he will later in fact, without a visa, he will go somewhere there, which, in general, was what he should have had, if there had not been this check, well, it would have been possible, it would have been possible to find a compromise, of course, it would have been possible , but when they wanted to do this, roman , then they found a solution that control was maintained, but all was not necessary , as with turkey now, but it was possible, a lot was possible, indeed, they refused simply because they didnt want to, of course, well, of course, everyone made mistakes, its just that now the price is, what is at stake, in fact, if we started with this in general, the survival of humanity, now on the map, which is too high, so i want to remind you that even in these conditions they are not ready to agree on something, they are not ready, they have bitten and at the same time they are not hiding, not hiding sorry, im just not hiding their own goals, they must destroy russia. But look what the representative of the netherlands says. It is very much in our interests to support ukraine, because they are fighting this war, not us. I think we should also be involved in dialogue with our american colleagues and friends, because they have the same interest, because supporting ukraine is a very cheap way to achieve this. Defense of defense of Foreign Affairs is mistaken in believing that in this way you can prove something to someone, with which you can agree, but only in a mirror, so that we all cease to be each other. A threat, because now we are all threats to each other, all threats, in the end everyone has forgotten about people, everyone has forgotten about people, everyone thinks they are playing, everyone thinks they are playing some kind of computer games, there, they are setting up something, look, actually people suffer, about whom everything, well, not everything , i agree, not everyone, well, they forgot, look , ill show you one, which is about people, now, just recently the g20 passed. Under what slogan was the g20 held, and it was held, by the way , in a country that the president mentioned many times in his speech at valdai, well, several times in any case, india is certainly a country with its own national sovereignty, i think no one will say, that india lacks something, lacks something in this matter, they have prepared slogan, one earth, one family, one future, thats when everyone will really understand that the problems that we face, the real problems humanity faces, are a consequence of climate change, the spread of diseases, hunger, lack of water, these can only be solved together , then there will be other speeches, other statements, but i believe that we should be the leader of our state in this process, lets say what we did for that, since the nineties, how much has passed, 27 and 20, 27 years, for that , to force the United States to ratify the treaty, they didnt really do it, not really, because i participated in International Nongovernmental negotiations in which two countries do not participate, only of all, the United States and russia, do not participate in order to force them to ratify, and now we think that to spite our mother, we will freeze our ears, no, no, no, under no circumstances, we need our ears, but wait, and tests will be just that, in the soviet union, in the soviet union, mostly tests, as you remember took place in semiretinsk, the tests in semepalatinsk suffered from the tests not from some kind of combat use , 15 Million People suffered from the tests, this is very dangerous, and i liked your phrase, nikolai, that we should be the leaders of this process, you are talking about the climate, about ecology, but i see lena there, anna, anna lena. Which is a berbok, she should have been talking about exactly this, yes , she is from the greens, thats right, vladimovich vladimovich, yes felix, im not mistaken, yes, but this lady talks about anything except the climate, except ecology, she talks more and more about war , the people who today lead european states, well, in particular european ones, and not just about war, we are of course ready to be leaders, and you wont believe us. We did everything for this, we dissuaded them from leaving the treaty , we offered them again this story of Global Security, they did not want, and you understand what an attack Missile Warning system is, these are secret systems, this our everything, these are radar stations, we were ready connect to this Global Security system, they dont want, well, what else should we be, we are even now until december before. The start of a special military operation in december, yes, in my opinion, we presented them with all these options that they could actually satisfy these conditions, why, because we. They were told that we are talking about our security, so you say, no one remembers about people, lets listen to one person who talks about people, about people, bring the president here again, the president putin, who says that, yes, this is not a territorial conflict, let s listen to the president , and he s talking about people there, the ukrainian crisis is not a territorial conflict, i want to emphasize this, russia is the largest, the largest. In terms of territory, it is a country in the world, we have no interests in terms of conquering any additional territories, we still have to develop siberia, eastern siberia, and the far east, this is not a territorial conflict, and not even the establishment of a regional geopolitical balance, the question is much broader and more fundamental, we are talking about the principles on which the new. World order will be based, everything is very simple, the principles on which this world order will be based if they continue to talk to us as barbarians, as colleagues were talking about now , then this world will not exist, but so that everything is fine in it and there are no clashes, we say, lets do it differently, roman, if you are not a barbarian, and you dont consider yourself one, then no one can with you talking like that is purely internal, the inner thoughts of a person, perhaps. Nikolai will object to you, let me object to nikolai, just like nikolai, you know, when i listen to the representative of the yabloko party, i have the impression that for about 2030 years, he flew somewhere to the moon, to mars and doesnt know , what was happening in our country, because no , no, wait, look, grigory alekseyevich evlinsky was , nikolai, let me remind you now, he even developed these proposals from our side, they just threw them away and pretended they didnt see, but apple as far as i am i understand, im not offended, roman, lets go a little earlier, just come back earlier , because these words are that we all together must do something, show the whole world an example, wait, since 1985, our country , then headed by gorbachev, then yeltsin, all the time set an example of how we, to our own detriment, want to relieve international tension, well, we did everything , abandoned history, sawed up the submarines, handed over all our allies, nikolai says behave yourself, dont count themselves as barbarians, they consider themselves barbarians , therefore they believe that there is no need to fulfill the obligations taken in relation to the barbarians, thats all , you withdrew troops from europe, we, well, they brought their own there, we withdrew their troops from germany, they left theirs, we are allies. What else should we do to prove our love of peace and now the moment has come when we have said everything, not a step back, like in 1941, because moscow, russia, security are already behind us, but this was also done in such a soft form, because everything is what is now nikolai listed, putin listed, in his messages to europe, say that ukraine will not be in nato, this is december of the twentyfirst year, what do they say, they say, we cannot close the doors to nato, but this is demagoguery, they always think , that they can deceive us with some beads, they treat us like savages, thats it, this doesnt work anymore, now you show your good will in the west, withdraw your troops to nato, the russian border, ratify the treaty, so to speak, about Nuclear Tests, show something that you are ready to consider us equal, there are billions of us, because china is behind us, but not in the sense that it is behind us, in the sense that it watches how it treats us, and he tries on this shirt for himself, thats for sure, india and everyone else too, nikolai, you understand that they will take, yes, that is, the line that is in the baltic states. They talk about it, but why felix . Well, because, first of all , it is not beneficial for those states, they are now becoming more important and more important than germany, which has been for a very long time all the time, you can imagine, felix, but this is the absurdity of the whole situation, and to bring it all to the moment that we are experiencing today, the historical one that we are living today, all because of what, because of. The fact that, well, someone had some, i dont know, thoughts in their heads, to completely destroy the Russian Federation, the same Russian Federation that as. The president said, we thought that was it, we the same as you bourgeois, yes, who are already, people first of all, im not talking about power, about the people who our people were sure that , well, thats it, the confrontation is over, well, there are no more these two superpowers, one with the other, who were sorting things out, there is no this arms race, the same ideology, no ideological conflict, nothing no, we were ready to be friends, instead of taking advantage of this moment, and today you and i would live in a completely different world, but no, from exactly that very minute you began to go on the offensive, in the end, in the end you yourself suffer, and we actually find ourselves yes forced to fight back, as they say, from this onslaught, isnt this absurd, russia is ready to be friends, the west is ready to share resources, i think this is the key, because they want to share resources, although they share resources at their own rate, buy rubles not at 100 5 rubles, and 265 rubles each, but for their own benefit, they want to buy it, unfortunately, you watched, you watched the film wedding in malinovka, yes , of course, according to pandopol, remember, they shared resources, remember, yes, yes, yes, this is for me, this is for me again, this is for me again, and this too to me, that is, you consider this principle normal, but we clearly saw in the middle east that this is what happens with the razskys. With different periods of spring in the arab states, and i think that there is nothing else, despite the fact that now the fear of a Nuclear Conflict has really worn off in the trap, and the opinion is growing that in russia only 15 cities need to be hit and there will be no russia, yes, that is, if germany continues to live , and russia, it turns out, after the defeat of the 15th, who is talking about this, you you understand that the people who say this are enemies, first of all, of the german people, you understand this not only of the german people, but also of the french and so on, yes, well, unfortunately, this is in their heads, there is a real thing that needs to be defeated russia, yes. It is necessary to prove that a large state should not carry out violence against a small one, the United States does not see it at all , because they do it for noble reasons, everything is very simple everything is very simple after that of course there will be no blows, because there are no suicides there, just im saying, and thats exactly what im saying, dont be and generally shift your safety to the opinion of someone out there somewhere. Or wont it click . You know, i now admit absolutely anything , well, honestly, thats right, i admit everything, i admit any turn, you say there are no suicides there, but i admit that there are idiots there who believe that in the event if they launch a nuclear strike, they themselves will be able to sit out, because they will stock up on some kind of stew somewhere in the basement, and then how many cases have there been when this can happen, just by accident due to an error, somewhere something doesnt work, thats exactly it. Did you see margaritas question, oh, which one, and which one, well, come on, yes, sergei borisovi, yes, yes, yes, let s show that rita asked the president about where we should stay, you know, we, uh , its not a matter of territories, its a matter of guaranteeing the security of the peoples of russia. And the russian state, and this is a more complex issue than some territory, the safety of people who consider russia their homeland, and we their we consider ourselves our people, but this is such a complex issue that requires conversation. Im afraid to talk to your husband, hes like, if hes not an extremist, then hes a person of extreme convictions. But we will discuss with you later, yes, i will definitely ask rita, how did they discuss, yes, and about people, about security, the question, the question sounded like this, that odessa, odessa is a russian city, i believe that russian cities should live in russia, yes, where will we stay, well, that is , what will our victory look like, thats the actual question, yes, thats the question we regularly ask the president , he regularly answers, well, in my opinion, everything is clear, again the man talks about security , he does not say that we need some territories, this is the largest country in the world, 17 million km, much more, as they say. Security, thats all, but they dont want to talk, sergei varivich, one of the advantages of the discussion that took place at valdai is that there was a supporting concept there, repeatedly used, this is civilization, why is civilization important, because political regimes exist years. States exist for decades, well, for example, the soviet union existed for decades, yes, and civilizations exist for centuries, therefore, if we speak in terms of civilization, this means that we are really talking about the fate of humanity as a whole and looking far ahead, we understand that we must count for the safety of not only those who live today, but for generations , that is, generations must exist in security, if approached from this side, then of course, those countries that claim to be the center of civilization living in centuries, they are obliged to agree , first of all to agree, well, naturally, russia applies, america applies, india applies, china applies, of course, of course, this is undoubtedly, this is not the most ancient civilization, but undoubtedly a civilizational hearth, this is this is the country that it is a certain model, a version of civilization, and these countries are obliged to agree among themselves without the use of forceful arguments, unfortunately, we came close to this situation, at some point, when this, including the agreement on a general ban on Nuclear Testing was signed, and now they have moved back from this situation and again these leading countries , which. Supposedly civilizations that have Nuclear Weapons, the ability to destroy all living things, they are again, unfortunately, on the verge of conflict, and from this a dangerous situation is necessary, you always have an option in your pocket that can be used in order to somehow come to an agreement again, to create conditions for dialogue, the dialogue is not just interrupted, the dialogue is not just interrupted, it is dry, it is said that now they are not killing people, look, look, sergei borivich, look, the british, they are creating the conditions for dialogue right here now, the british minister of defense is saying that they will transfer, that there are planes there, in my opinion, they will transfer to poland , and we have a suspicion that these are exactly the same planes that ukraine is asking for, remember, we said that if they give it, they will be based somewhere nearby, which means that he is saying that we will prepare ukrainian aircraft there army on the territory of ukraine, remember these statements of this new minister, what is he there , what didnt he just say . The scottish guards gave a kick to the tsar, the russian, we are now ready for this there, you remember these statements, they are preparing these very conditions, then look, there barbarians, barbarians, no, im just watching, yes, im watching how they are preparing all these conditions so that we can come to an agreement, and now theyll start preparing the soldiers are all on the territory of ukraine, and he called on Defense Companies to open their enterprises there, that means , germany, and this one the most, we saw the netherlands, and germany, jazep borel , that is, you cant take anyone, they all just, day and night, day and night create conditions in order to somehow bring the positions closer again, it turns out to be a dead end situation, you can come to a compromise only if i am ready for this compromise, and you are ready for this. 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The situation around ukraine, in principle, yes, this is all around ukraine , which means that we saw, we struck, began to strike with bombs, powerful bombs, destroyed the command post of the armed forces of ukraine, as far as i understand, there were also foreign specialists there were, these are the ones with whom we must agree, yes, and everyone saw this picture, probably, yes, well , look, fab 1500, yes, its starting up, aircraft, maximum altitude from 12 km, that is, such a smart bomb. We have such weapons, so in principle, i think that it is not yet time to use any nuclear forces, yes. Its enough just to become more active, so i have a question, nikolai, if we have such weapons, why are we delaying so much . They say that we also have a factory 9,000, the use of this one bomb closes the issue with avdiivka, you see, this is only a fiveandahalf thousandth bomb, look, theyll show the crater there now, its impressive, theres just such you know, concrete, concrete cities, cities right underground, look, and there s also voiceover text there. That is, it is a very strong, powerful weapon, yes, but somehow we understand everything, we stand on ceremony, or what . I dont understand, in what we call ceremonies, yes, there are questions to which we probably havent received answers yet, we will get them, i hope, after some period of time, in memoirs, in historical works, but there are things we can analyze now, there you go. Speaking in valdai, the president voiced, well probably, unfortunately, because people are dying, not the final numbers, but intermediate, terrible numbers, and i have this data , lets show the losses, you mean the ukrainians, but since the fourth, this is not for the entire time. Wait a second, look, yes, 90,000 people, 557 tanks, 1,900 Armored Vehicles of various classes, as he said, colossal losses, these are really huge losses in several months, and, probably, this is the most. Trained unit, now we see that some twoweek graduates appear courses, who are immediately thrown into the thick of things, so lets say, lets mentally return to the first stage of a special military operation and imagine that these 90,000 people, 557 tanks, 1,900 Armored Vehicles, everything that has not yet been destroyed, they are sitting in large ukrainian cities and they dont go out into the field anywhere, yeah, its obvious that the change in our tactics, the opportunity that we gave the enemy to attack, suffer losses, crash against the defense, it changes not only the balance of forces, it changes the feelings in ukrainian society, it becomes clear , what if in 4 months you have not broken through the defense anywhere, then what are the prospects for all this . They talk about success, here 200 m, here 100 m. 200 m yes, but i want to say that these 90,000 soldiers died in an open field, trying to break through our defenses. And how many people surrender, you know, yes, they come out for special cleanliness, surrender in batches, im telling you this for sure, for sure, just a huge number of people, yesterday, in my opinion, there was another group of 17 people, or maybe just. In one area, they come out clean and say that they they go to surrender, when they arrive, they say that listen, it was initially clear that they threw us here so that we could live here for a couple of hours, as they say, thats all over, so they prefer to surrender, in another situation they would have been in prison in large cities, they covered themselves with civilians, as the ssu did, in the very first period of a special military operation, and this would be a completely different situation, so when they have losses, they see them there, they are advancing, they see, but at the same time they say, i think its the british there, or something, an article was published somewhere in the english press, that they are now ready to put 500,000 people under arms again, but at the same time these are people without any training who were last there machine guns in their hands, if they held them, it was a very long time ago, so it seems to me that this gives, maybe not a complete, but part of the answer to the question you are asking, a novel, yeah. Yeah, okay, one more question, dimitri, let me ask you, so look, kirby, kirby, you know this man, yes, he made a statement, come on here, kirby , the funds that the Us Administration has left to help ukraine will be enough for about 2 months, the white house supports an additional request sent to congress, and we are still, of course, we are trying to get this funding for kiev, yeah, more and more often. There they say that they are running out of money, and you know, there are all these, as they say, and there are already political squabbles on this topic, but do you think they might really they began to understand something, if there are no results, why support on the scale in which they supported, so in fact they throw in this whole story, what money is left there, how much is there for about 2 months, what do you think, i never count on the wisdom of people in washington, as someone who grew up there, theres really. Pessimism, because there was hope that the ukrainians would be able to make a quick, decisive blitz, but that obviously didnt work out. And all these stories about how leopards are burning, rudley, this is a little embarrassing for the Biden Administration, who laid so much financial and political capital, but washington has not yet become any wiser, the Biden Administration still intends to support ukraine, and even the majority of people in congress including republicans, now we see an increasingly determined minority that speaks out, tries to use their political capital, but i doubt that a decidedly minority in the long term will be able to. Stop the rabid majority, look, greene, a member of the us house of representatives, and she has a statement us, lets show that too, the defense bill was a huge victory, i was able to get money for ukraine excluded from it, and i think thats a victory for every american because our border is being invaded. All our stupid federal government is doing is continuing the same practice of fighting foreign wars, defending foreign borders, ignoring our own interests, while making our people pay for it. You see, that is, it turned out for one particular person, she says this is a victory, that is, we took money out of this law that should have gone to ukraine, maybe this is just the very beginning, well, this is perhaps the very beginning, but partly this happened because of. The weakness of Kevin Mccarthys position. Kevin mccarthy, the former speaker of the house of representatives, had problems not only on the ukraine front, but many conservative republicans considered him a traitor, as someone who was willing to cooperate with democrats on a bunch of sensitive issues, so heres this the uprising for support of ukraine, it was part of a broader uprising in the republican party, but when we look at it specifically. Republicans in the senate and even in the house of representatives, they still overwhelmingly support bidens position on ukraine, they even support more aggressive policies, that is, biden even less aggressive policies, they want biden to send more weapons, they want more passion in conflict, because they believe that biden is showing his weakness, they want to believe that there is more a more direct attraction on the contrary would command respect. On the part of russia and china, just like that, but they dont consider the option that they lose, you know, people in washington dont really care, you need, you know, as they say, yes, its better to be happy than to be upset, you need to. They say, weigh, well, suddenly, and what will happen if this happens suddenly, but on the contrary, they are afraid that there will be a defeat for ukraine, because they understand that as president putin said that this is a fight for the future of the world order if russia wins collective west. In ukraine, this will be a signal to the whole world that it is possible to challenge american and western hegemony , they would understand that china will behave more decisively , iran, north korea, and india, and even European Countries may begin to consider their status as american vassals, which is why they are very afraid of the consequences, and this is why they are willing to take great risks and escalations in order to socalled defeat moscow in ukraine. But they are maximalist goals this is the restoration of the ninetyfirst border year, but at a minimum, the minimum program is a break to the black sea, even many in washington are not ready to recognize donbass, crimea, they are afraid that even such reasonable, obvious concessions will be a signal to china that they will be able to get some then compromises over the status of taiwan in the future, and what will russia gain if this milestone is reached . Its only a freezing of the conflict , and it will return, that is, knowing your western partners, this is for a while, but i agree that freezing the conflict for russia is not profitable, i i think it is obvious that russia should. Find to the bitter end, so that the west does not have the opportunity to create an even smaller , but more dangerous country, which could be showered with weapons, military support, funds, russia really needs a total victory in this, and then it will be, then then it will be poland, well im not calling on poland, antirussia, then they will pump poland into this, according to this logic, absolutely, but if no one ever stops, no one will ever stop. The only thing you can talk about say this about when people say that victory is not defeat, victory will be now , what is our date today . In october of twentythree, when people stop dying, then sit down at the negotiating table as much as you want to convince each other that now , that is, nikolai proposes a frozen conflict, just the one i propose, so that they dont kill people, because otherwise you can remember, there was 812 year, it was 914, it was fortyone, it was all the time, i just have to say now that thats it, we learned some lessons from everything that happened. Yes, and we will say, they didnt extract it, that means 800, 812, so i remember, well, i remember, yes, you understand that i remember, yes, i remember how napoleon negotiated with the russian emperor, they were friends , everything was fine, and then one day, they attacked russia again, time passes, and people, who should draw conclusions at some point . To do, time passes, but the people are still the same, the policy is still the same , as for our victory, i asked the president about what dmitry was talking about, what it should look like, and he said that we respect the desire of millions of people who live, well, ukrainians, yes , who want to live in their own independent state, we respect this desire, you understand, he respects the desire of these people to live in their own country, but at the same time he says, we he says, we have the right to ask, to demand that if they live in their country, that we feel safe, because, well, we live in russia and we want to feel safe, live in your country, for your health , but as they say, we dont threaten, this is an elementary story, and i say, okay, tell me anyway, this is what it will look like, because it can look different, i say, here Sergei Borisovich suggests going to the dolmansha, that is, for everyone my vision of this very victory, yes, i say later, well, its ukraine , there are people who want to live in their own independent state, they can live in the state of ukraine, which is the largest, well, we dont count in europe, or is it there will be ukraine somewhere in the area of ​​lvov and ternopil. In fact, its a global problem for even if not for us, for our children and for our grandchildren, but this is another problem in a suitcase, which, you contradict what the president said, you contradict, so we told them, we told them. Lets just agree, do you live there . Yes, to your health, you want to go to europe, go to europe, he once again said that you were not against it, yes, well, that means there will be someone to go, he says, please join the european union, they said it, but now he is saying it , everything was just beginning for them, they they brought these people to the maidan, why, they simply deceived these people, they said that it was russia that forbade them to sign this association agreement, but we were not talking about that at all, we were talking in good faith, but only to preserve our interests, we must respect the romance, go to your health, he says, but at the same time give us guarantees that you will not threaten us, why not give these guarantees, can someone explain to me why they are doing this, explain to me, but everything is banal, because between western countries, between there are germany, the netherlands, by the way, the minister of defense of the netherlands, in fact , unlike her german colleagues, a very smart thing, she said that support for ukraine, and this means death. Tens of thousands of ukrainian soldiers who are madly thrown into these meat assaults, this is a cheap way to prevent the expansion of russia, that is, for it the lives of ukrainians are not worth anything at all, of course, but the americans didnt talk about this, who talked about it, someone talked about it the same thing, kiev, but regarding the inability and unwillingness the collective west, this western civilization, america, yes, it is one of the centers of western civilization, if you have already. Finally taken the position of nikolayevich danilevsky spangler, regarding the world, as a blossoming complexity of different high cultures, different civilizations, and this is in my opinion thats right, whenever the west sees a threat in the east in the form of russia, it could be tsarist russia, it could be the soviet union, it could be i dont know, kievan rus also, all the contradictions between france and germany, between belgium, volonia there, flanders, they are being smoothed out, the last time we fought with the west one on one, with some major european power, it was the time of charles xix. Since then, before getting involved in a fight with russia, napoleon gathered around himself a whole army of small , different states that he. The Holy Roman Empire was redrawn there, hitler also first conquered all of europe, then for himself, like the mongolians in his time the khans took elite units from the enslaved peoples and threw them ahead of their own, in the same way he went to the big fist, accordingly, the americans also realized that it was difficult to win the cold war, accordingly they handed us this convergence, perestroika, look at the finished peoples, which was still adopted by the us congress in the fifties, but this. Just a slightly changed hitler s plan to prioritize the soviet people, exactly what my colleague says correctly, the slavs, as a biological threat to europe, that is, nothing has changed in the idea of ​​the collective west in relation to russia as you know, darkness from the east , even their literature reflects this into the collective subconscious, in tolkien there is darkness from the east, and middleearth is coming, so even in his fantasy works he still somehow subconsciously expressed his phobia relatively. Our country, accordingly, and negotiate with these, uh , geopolitical opponents, who view us solely as prey, but there is no documentary evidence of margaret thatchers words that there should be only 15 russians left, or more accurately, only 15 slavs should remain millions, but this is an expression of precisely this dominance of the lust for power of the collective west, but we will never agree with it, yes, we can even conclude an agreement, and we can even call for it to be observed for 2030 years, but still this agreement will not be worth that paper. Before which it was printed, yes i agree, im just amazed at what . Im amazed that they could , well, they love to play all these games, but lets not expand, give me a piece of paper, if only there was a piece of paper, wed forget about this piece of paper, parisian the charter of 199, a wonderful document, who remembers it now, no one remembers at all, i agree, yes, we just could have been more cunning, or something, you know, but we could have said, yes, okay, okay, at the very beginning, we, we guarantee that ukraine, the ukrainian state will not threaten you, and therefore we are declaring, we are signing some kind of piece of paper, that it will not be part of the north atlantic alliance, that it was worth doing this, nothing at all, if necessary, you can forget, but even if there is no such need, as they say, well then better times, but they didnt even do that, they didnt even do that, for this you need to be reinforced concrete in your own success, you know, nothing will happen, nothing will happen for it, well, of course, if its a success, the winners are not judged, yes, but well, just to what extent, kiril, you tell me, yes, to what extent this is such an understandable position, it seems to me that they are mistaken, of course they are mistaken, but this is a position of despair, because imagine, and the United States all their lives assumed that this was a city on a hill, which everyone else brings the light of truth, what light is is explained by one, they, thats when. The younger one was asked when he said that i would build democracy in afghanistan, they told him how this is possible, very simply, what democracy is, what is not democracy, we determine, so when you need to know whether it is a democracy or not , just ask us and we will give you a certificate, that is, this is great, yes, this is the basic position of the city on the hill, which broadcasts to others and explains how it should be, it happened almost, but in the nineties, its just dizziness from success when the soviet union. Collapsed, believing the promises, and in this situation they settled so well in africa , the standard of living fell 14 times after the nineties compared to western countries, niger has now raised the price of uranium 200 times to the market price 200 euros per kilogram yes funny to hear yes that is the price of western dominance two hundred times the difference with the market not not 10 not 20 not two times 200 200 times yes . This is a scheme of neocolonism, theyve settled down so well, then suddenly russia says that its not like that for me satisfied that this will not work, that we dont believe the word and the situation begins to crumble, because china is looking at russia, india is looking at russia, and the exit of the brick countries from the dollar system, excuse me, but today the Us National Debt is growing by a billion a day , yes, this is again briks price, the price of the fact that other countries stop paying this debt, the situation is crumbling, on the one hand, yes, its just ukraine thats at stake, on the other hand , the whole system is at stake, because if my colleague said, yes, because if connected the states are losing, then in fact it suddenly turns out that the king is naked, the scenery is cardboard, in general everything was drawn, everyone had glasses, like in the emerald city, yes, that is, in fact, everything was completely different, suddenly everything. Take off points, so what is really at stake for them is how much the situation can change, or rather their position in relation to, say , ukraine, because the president said, they will stop supporting in a week, as they say, the issue will be resolved, yes, if , well , trump will shoot, come on, here we are now lets take a break, come back in just a few minutes, and immediately begin to answer the question, okay, its not for nothing that the portrait of peter ii hangs in the office of the president of russia, because it was peter who determined the Forward Development vector of our state. Russian writer about the first russian emperor. Peter was a man of modern times, curious and capable. Perception of all the most advanced, it was he who established the primacy of National Interests as a priority of state policy. Glory to russia, glory to emperor peter, his glory is indisputable. Zakhar prilepin, russian lessons, tomorrow, right after the international sawmill, on ntv. This is the program our truth, we continue with our guests about the situation around ukraine. So trump, why. Dishonest joe biden is not forcing europe to transfer to ukraine the 175 billion that they are inferior to the United States in paying , why didnt we insist on equality dollar for dollar, why not a single dollar can be spent until europe equals the amounts that america spent on protecting ukraine , that is, he again, you know, yes, you remember, at the first coming, when he he said that you would increase it, which means payments there to 4 . Pulled up, now he is again counting the money, again reading the money and saying that well, this is the same , let the europeans, let the europeans first pay as much as we have already paid, and then we will see further, the situation may change, it may change, trump is using , of course, this is an argument, an argument that is understandable to ordinary americans, because in fact, what is nato, nato is a military guarantee, you are members of such a Terrible Club that no one can join. You pay for guarantee of 2 of gdp, everything is fine, but if you dont pay, then you have a problem, why should we provide all this, that is, this is an understandable argument, but the most important question that will now be played out is who is to blame, yes, to whom after all, victory always has many fathers, defeat is always an orphan, now they will start throwing each other like hot potatoes, yes, that is, naturally, they will try to blame everything on the democrats, the democrats understand perfectly well that. And that they will actually be able to rule both the world and america, for them, its a monstrous collapse of not just ambitions, not just hopes, not just reality, but the whole world that they havent seen, yes, because these are actually older people today, if we take the leadership team, who have laid all their eggs in one basket, figuratively speaking, they only saw this, they are not. Not flexible, they are hardened, this is actually a very big danger, because what is hardened breaks, it does not bend, that is , in this regard, it is clear that this will be more or less less severe collapse, but ours, our interest, the rest of the world is interested in it ending at the level of a fight between republicans and democrats, and not at the level of a global conflict, i would say that for us this will be the smallest isolation, which, in general, is looming in the light of these todays showdowns. Vladim vladimovich, in europe, when they listened to trump, when they listened to all the statements, actually from the americans, that there was practically no money left for ukraine, yes, they panicked a little bit, and barel appears, barel is a wonderful character, of course, europe is not can replace the United States, of course, we can do more, but the United States is indispensable for helping ukraine, my hope, like the hope of the ukrainians, is that the United States will look for ways to reconsider this decision in well, they were afraid, they were afraid that they would have to, in fact, the whole burden expenses, as they say, take it upon themselves, of course they can do something there, spend a little more, but without america it will be very bad, or they are ready, barel clearly said that they hope, that is, there is no plan for everything, the phrase is complete, this is a whole sentence, this is a mini story, here the beginning, here is the end, here is the finale, here is the epic, and, as the germans say, this is it. That its impossible without america, and now lets remember afghanistan, and how germany took out its employees , i mean those afghans who worked for the germans, but america abandoned them all, they were executed on the street openly, no one had lists, no one was embarrassed , according to the lists they found it was believed that it was better to actually execute two traitors, if one gets there correctly, its okay, but god forbid we let one traitor pass, well many people in afghanistan believe there are. Traitors among their own, and the afghan scenario is constantly being considered, america at least once talked to someone, at least apologized, then for what it did to afghanistan, there were no consultations with nato, it did not warn. Allies, she just turned around and announced an urgent evacuation, full stop and barel , by the way, this is the first time ive heard some sober thoughts there, this is a unique person, this is during the removal of the speaker in the usa, barel manages to tell ukraine in tune with this michel charles, handsome, that ukraine will already be in the eu in 1930, hello, garage, the people of europe asked, will you be in 1930, and ursula von dalyan will also sign documents with tunisia on the fight against migrants in tihartsa, i i think that the questions that are ripe, they are visible and invisible, the visible question is where russia becomes, and when someone starts talking, and poland is there this is a provocation, i disagree with nikolai so much, this is such a narrative that is being promoted baltic countries, ukraine, who said that poland they would attack, it wasnt purely ethnic like in the donbass, by the way, so that he would say that in poland something is starting against the russians there. From the point of view of secret prisons, the second point is the us secret prison. The United States warned someone that it does not exist in europe, which means more accurate Intelligence Officers in the baltic, in romania, what they did, whoever was needed on german territory, they kidnapped them to a camp, abs, a bag on the head, water in the mouth, so that the person would be scared , that he was about to drown, and then they were transported to a nonexistent place on earth for human rights activists, no more, no less, and the only phrase that is correct, the fight is for. This is really very deep, apparently, these are the troops meeting, we are talking about where the british ships will be in odessa or they will not be there at all never, that is, the Security Architecture begins, but what do you think of the technologies that the americans used . In the seventies , poles came to western ukraine and brought porn magazines, which for little money from 50 to 100 dollars were supposed to give Young Komsomol employee porn magazines in order to destroy. Through a weak link, through young people, after that new technologies appeared, social networks appeared, which vr controls, accordingly, excuse me, what can we talk about, what kind of world, global, well, okay, according to we will agree on Nuclear Weapons, but what will we agree on so that in poland, for example, they do not have an ngo, which specifically has strong, healthy men, and belarusians at that, train constantly, they know every street in minsk, they are preparing to take over power, poland, how the maidan happened in exactly the same way, so the Security Architecture begins cyberspace, in which there is complete chaos, there are pirates, there are terrorists , there are blackmailers, everything you want is on the internet, but states can agree that you do not strike , for example, according to the information media, well, thats not all, theres no talk about it, this is also Security Architecture, it turns out that in a cunning way, using new technologies, with very professional psychologists, they are building the destruction of the social system, right from the inside undermine. Country, with ukraine it worked, in belarus, well, a little more, well, they didnt put pressure on it, yes, russia intervened, look in africa, where it didnt work out, what happened to them all, they were bombed, overthrow, respectively, the Security Architecture, returning to the main thesis, this is such a deep concept, and if it is like this, then it will really last for 2030 years, you need to realize that russia has not founded a single ngo that would be engaged in undermining power either in the Czech Republic or in poland, neither in france, nor in germany, in slovakia, in slovakia they came good people to power, but i just dont know the point, someone has already seen a message that it was we who actually organized this whole story there, i heard that this is not yet, but it will be soon, i think it will be soon , in slovakia, most likely, if he becomes Prime Minister, he will be Prime Minister three times already, because he has already been twice, its hard to somehow blame us here, he said, i wont give a single bullet to ukraine anymore, not a single bullet, yes there isnt, to be honest, the fact is that american hawks, from our point of view, are the worst supporters american imperialism, as they see victory, in ukraine, and for themselves, they see victory, if this war becomes endless, or as long as possible, this is their victory, because how do you. We are talking to you, the head of the military Nato Committee . He says, now he says we already see the bottom of the barrel, we mean technology, weapons , thats all there, how to continue this ad infinitum, stop, stop, stop, you perfectly pointed out the second part of their victory for the supporters of the war, because firstly, they want to make the war endless and under this cover naturally increase funding. For their militaryindustrial complex, for their militaryindustrial complex, for themselves, for their needs, this is the second part of their victory, dear friends, but now what do they want to do, that s why trump spoke like that, yes, this position has many supporters, listen, now its for for 18 months, ukraine has been provided with assistance for approximately 230240 billion dollars, this is for everyone, all the west, all the west, 70 america, 30 europe. Yes, now the next stage of this militaristic ballet is to be done in reverse, so that 70 of europe and 30 states will reduce their costs, and victory remains with them, an endless war, as far as possible, and so recently there have been calls, washington says with paris, washington says with berlin there first of all, and to the european union, to the european commission, get ready, dear friends, to take over. The main thing is time, now we have done our part, we are 70 , you are 30, now we are changing places, you are 70, we are 30, and this is a very popular slogan now in america, so trump is trying to saddle him, so to speak, but look, what is biden doing, uh, they seem to agree with this, democrats, they understand what it is with this it will be extremely difficult to fight this slogan that this is primarily a european problem and let them play the main role, and we will add. Well just biden and his people are starting to say yes, lets cut financially, but check more, check more strictly so that everything goes well, so that they dont steal, and then about the same amount will be spent on business, we will reduce theft, corruption, but we will give a little less, and even the slogan of the republicans that it is necessary to strengthen the borders not there somewhere in europe, but here in south, and there are approximately 10,000 of them illegal immigrants, almost a day now. On september 25, 2001, Vladimir Putin gave a speech in the bundestag, everyone stood up and applauded. Why didnt our chancellor olaf scholz sit down at the negotiating table with putin the day before the start of the war . Why did he not dare to do this for that long time . This war never. The key point is different, if i have the right to express my opinion, this does not mean that i have the right to be applauded for it, i need to say this very clearly, yes, there is no right to this, sorry, freedom expression means freedom of expression, but not the right to be applauded for it, period, does anyone understand anything . I understood that he was simply infuriated by the fact that this question, which, yes, caused applause, we had gone crazy and we should have sat down at the negotiating table with putin the day before it all started, this is what just a man, a journalist, said, and it infuriated the german minister of defense, i immediately, andrei petrovich, now i will show the results of a survey on this topic, which we carried out on the ntv website, come on we bring out the results with whom we can negotiate about peace in ukraine, that is, we make a loop, we started with this, end with this and look, 94 with no one, now its pointless, and 5 with washington and 1 with kiev, with kiev, ok, okay, yes, 94 of our people say that with no one, because it is pointless , that means, that means, this is what, that means, this is to the bitter end, i understand correctly, we all talked about this here, and as you can see , those who voted until the end, and then it will be its clear who to talk to and what to talk about, it seems to me that you have highlighted a very good result for us, which sums up our discussion, well, let me say two words if now, it says that it is not necessary. I will end this conflict in one day, he constantly talks about it, well, now he can become the third person, there in the american state, and in principle, as an option, some levers of pressure appear, then maybe he will even become the master of the white house , he can change something or not, he is now in the mode election rhetoric and he just needs to say this, because the whole world is listening and American Voters are listening, that there is an alternative against joe biden, who, in principle, for the most part does not satisfy them, thats why he says that, basically we remember trump, thats me now ill offer such a deal that you wont resist, that is, it will be about a commercial solution to the issue, when he said 175 billion, he expressed the very essence of the deep state. America, that probably the rich should be forced to pay europe, feeding this cow is in the interests of the United States. The cow is ready, felix says that he is ready to pay whatever is necessary, he will pay, they are already paying 30 more for energy products, this cow will soon die from what everyone is saying for some reason about, but no one counts human lives at all, but 150 billion, 230, put it here, we fight to the end. We must say that thats it, were sending all the students, were mobilizing everyone, everyone to the end, thats it. And the germans do not die, only russians die, all for the value of human life, so im telling you what to do, look at the screen, what . To the speech of our president , who should have given such a speech in the world, it was either xizen pin or the president of russia, about how it is necessary and what visions for restructuring the world order in the world, our president speaks, he has the moral right, because i i have always said that the key point, the Assembly Point of the european world order is the svo. And now around this crisis, which the United States has brewed, a decisive period is taking place, so what will the world be like next . Develop, and it is no coincidence that he puts forward six principles, that is, the process of perestroika is underway, because everyone thinks that. Soon it will begin, it will end, then we will begin to rebuild, nothing like that, perestroika is underway and there is nervousness in washington, this is also the result of perestroika, this is a test of the american system, today this is also a process, the world will still change, but the trouble is different, an important point was made today regarding the relevance of the use of Nuclear Weapons, the fact is that the third, well, europe, you know, the culprit of the first world war, the second world war, she will be the culprit of the third world war, for one reason, lets look back a thousand years, the map is the same as it is now, which means the principle of tension on this peninsula, as friedman said, remains for centuries, therefore, she will be the source of the third world war, but how will it be, because now. No, there are no hitlers who would capture and go somewhere to the east, only the use of Nuclear Weapons could immediately lead to the third world war, but the United States hopes that this the only way it will happen is with tactical Nuclear Weapons on the european peninsula, everything will burn there, what the hell, whoever uses it will survive, see 3 hours 91. Million, and there are 8 billion of them on earth, nothing, well give money, well treat, and so on and again well raise them, like the marshals plan, well raise them and force them to obey us again, but this is an idea, if they survive they will remain, at least in their western hemisphere. Thats it, thanks to everyone, i admit that they reason like this, i admit it, because if there are people who argue that it is possible to exchange nuclear blows and at the same time survive, and hide somewhere, yes, i admit that there are people who argue in this way, let everything burn there in europe, as they say, and we will sit here under a snag, and then vice versa we will restore everything there and in any case, we will win, but this is an erroneous and very dangerous story, as for trump , i am convinced that even if he comes to the white house tomorrow, nothing will change, we paid attention to his statement, but to his last words until europe matches those amounts, this everything is about money, but the key one, which america spent on protecting ukraine, on protecting, you know, yes, not on financing , on protection, that is, poor ukraine is being insulted, its just poor, unhappy, white, fluffy, its being attacked here so we protect, well, yes, its a little expensive, of course, but we will protect, so trump, this is all understandable, especially since we have already gone through this , as for this whole story there with nuclear matters, it seems to me that still, after all, we wont get to that point when we need to Strike Nuclear forces, neither tactical nor strategic, especially since in order for this not to happen, it is necessary to finish it , and to finish it as we actually announced at the very beginning, that is, by achieving our own goals, and i agree with andrei petrovich, we we very often hear that some former postsoviet and republics, now sovereign states , are somehow behaving differently