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Thank you, captain, you lost the argument. Thats how we got it wrong with viktor pavlyvich about these cannibals, it turned out they were just fishermen, yes, we got it wrong, when are you going home to moscow, tomorrow. Ive had enough of resting with you, i agree, even the Lieutenant General is alone, youre hinting about yourself, major, zhenya, alone, you, stay here, take care, there wont be a tanu with your uncle, the fact that were nobody, be quiet, it will be ours. No one will know about this, but that your young people are breaking away from the team, and they have something planned there, as they say, a partner, and Ivan Olegovich titov just called me, so what, he returns to the department tomorrow and starts service. How, great, lord, for what . Comrade, Lieutenant General, allow me to address comrade colonel, i give permission. Comrade colonel, on the way to the airport there was an armed attack. Surprisingly, unexpectedly, allow me to go to the place . I have permission, captain. Gromov, i, kovalchuk, i, put yourself at the disposal of captain snegov, yes, yes. Komarov, i am responsible for everything, how . Again, youre partners, dont miss it on monday, just move, how interesting it turns out, there are professionals around, there are 16 corpses in the morgue, youre digging in the wrong direction, in the wrong direction at all, oleg andreev, dont pull the owl over the globe, Sergei Komarov , this legal matter will not be easy, but it is possible, ivan kolesnikov. I dont understand why he did this, sergei zharkov, i have nothing else to do directly, i should have gone to the investigator, now i would be sitting in the office, first department, new season, premiere on monday, at 20 00 on ntv, this is a program true, good evening, american abrams tanks are already in ukraine. Missiles attack ms are on the way. In addition, nato secretary general jen stolteng and the defense ministers of britain and france came to kiev. And in canada, Prime Minister trudeau apologized for esovets speech in National Parliament before those other than russia. This is what we will talk about in detail today. And i want to start, you know where . Lets look at how the president interacted with our military personnel today. I spoke with our military personnel who are participating in the military revolution and who were awarded, absolutely heroic people, look, five russian soldiers repelled an attack by superior enemy forces in the urozhainy area, this is the southern donetsk direction, and ukrainian attack aircraft tried to attack the stronghold twice in one day our point, but the soldiers of the 37th separate guards motorized Rifle Brigade were unable to break through the defenses, five of our 12th, which means ukrainian. Here is this battle, here is this battle, two of ours were wounded, but at the same time they could not break through, and the president is with these heroes himself in fact, today i talked. Russia, lets listen to the president , i would like to discuss with you, talk with you about how you people who are working right on the front line, fighting, how do you assess the situation there now, what do you think, how this work is organized, well, combat work. What may have changed recently, what is missing , what should be paid attention to, both to your immediate commanders and to those who command troops higher up the ranks, look, i know what i paid attention to , yes, three people, well, two were wounded, yes, i already said, three people are now in front of the president , different ages, yeah, completely different ages, if a young guy, yes absolutely, yes, and a much older person, of course, and a big commander, well he, because that its big, the second point that i liked, you remember when it started, yes, how many conversations we had about how reports, reports to the top, are going on some kind there, not so there, an irrelevant picture, there and so on, yes, the president has already met with people once again. These are already people from the trenches and he asks them these very questions, what needs to be changed, what has changed , what problems and so on, according to sergei borivich, its good practice, no, to find out what was called the payoff truth, that is, the truth, from the point of view seeing people directly those in the okupas, this is important for the commanderinchief, yes, yes, it seemed so to me too, vladimir, look, well, abrams tanks already seem to be in ukraine, yes, they say, now these missiles will be launched, yes, about which they spent so much time they said, look what niusvik writes, this is also an interesting note, but regarding these same missiles, we have them, yes, let s see, american, american missiles, which means that atapak may appear in ukraine next week, now heres the rest of the text , look, they are planned to be destroyed, so their book value is 0 dollars, the cost of destruction is significantly compared to delivery to ukraine, it is deadly and free, i understood this in such a way that these are some kind of decommissioned missiles, that is, giving them to ukraine is much cheaper than disposing of them. Well, this is not the first delivery, and we remember we talked about so called cluster bombs and so on , when it was necessary to dispose of s300 supplies from europe. They just talked about these missiles for so long, in the end, in the end that, in the end, theyre just decommissioned missiles, you know, but nothing surprising, firstly, they dont believe that there will be some kind of victory and result, and therefore, god forbid, they give everything, and they certainly say, we supported you, because the most important thing is that support is missing, you know what . Zelensky asks, where are the people, and where are the people, you send people, today he is not sending equipment. They are not afraid of dirt, this is not about abrams, yes, this is not about abrams, we watched the video and so on, abrams is afraid of dirt, afraid of snow, afraid of dirt, second, after all, this is something that could be said, briefly, in a way that would help, like a dead man, in the park, why . Because even budanov and many military people there say such a number does not solve the problem , look, i dont have budanov, i have a polyak, yes, thats exactly what its about, lets listen, if we reject it, even when we get the taurus , and we will get them, even if we get atakus, this still will not compensate for the difference in the number that the Russian Federation had and the range of these missiles, secondly, budanov said that we will use them very carefully, which means thinking through every step, but if abrams says, its the militaryindustrial complex speaking, its still a brand, yes, who will buy it if theyve already said leopards and so on, therefore, they will take care of it as they are, but they will do it as much as possible, but their evacuation is very difficult, i asked the military, they say , evacuating a damaged tank will be a problem, especially in the autumn and winter, but now the question is different , you know, this is what they now set as a task for me it seems that blinkin formed it very precisely, because all questions are connected, so to speak, from the outside, they are subordinated to the main thing. These are elections, january 15, this is the point when it will begin in america, and biden needs to come out, what they agreed on today, in my opinion, blinken, who came, inspected, said, there are three options, this victory for russia is unacceptable, for this is our defeat in the elections, in general for the democrats, there is no offensive or constancy, but zelensky, when he arrived there, before before asking for money, he said we ll take two or three cities. We wont stop in winter , well, there is still time, yes, three cities and the third option is a freeze, a conflict, but blinken said an interesting thing, if russia asks for negotiations, ukraine will support. No, ukraine will be the first to run. No, he said ukraine will agree, i think so, and we will support. That is, they are making these attacks on peaceful cities, a small number of these missiles, because the same biden. We will give a small amount that they are organizing terror for so that Society Still insists that lets negotiate, and then he has certain trump cards, which are not on this front, because here there will be a freeze during the negotiations, but what trump cards he has, and in europe, the gas market theirs, but they removed russia from there, the economy went where, european, mechanical engineering, chemistry went to america. So on, today the prospect of unification, well, good political and economic relations with germany, russia and so on, has really been cut off in the near future, the prospect is about this and they didnt say, this is a genius plan, of course, the plan is mr. Blinkins idea, but only if russia wants it, and lavrov responded and said, we are not against negotiations, but we didnt stop the military operation, for one reason, we already stopped it, we were stambol negotiations, we were deceived, like a military man, tell me, i m still trying to understand, they talked about these missiles for so long, do you remember . Yes, and there was a feeling that now they would have these ataxes or these german taurus, they remember, what are we losing in vain time, you will still give these missiles, you remember this conversation, yes, yes, two ministers, they are given these missiles, they receive these missiles, they receive abrams and make a statement. That there is no point, the russians still have more of these missiles , nothing, as they say, will change, zelensky makes a statement about zelensky makes a statement about, that means, tanks, look, good news from the minister, yes, abrams is already in ukraine preparing to strengthen our brigades, grateful to the allies, yes, well, you know too , well , these are protocol, as they say statements, is all this dangerous for us, or is it not very dangerous in the quantities they give . You know, in general, the first batch, if we are talking about missiles, is somewhere between three and thirty missiles, and missiles that are subject to decommissioning, which means the first type, these are two, two, two types of missiles with a cluster warhead, the First Development with a firing range of 140 km, the Second Development 220 km, but at the same time, each submunition is aimed individually at the target, the americans want to see how they will. Function, they are afraid, of course, that some kind of rocket will not explode, as you remember, the shadow storm will get to us, this causes them fears, but in general the strategy, the tactics , even the strategy chosen is very dangerous, that is, an attempt to repeat the kherson scenario, but only on the front line its already much larger, that is, look, shadow storm missiles, range 200, lets say, scalp there is also about 200, attack from 200. Thats all that comes from the line of contact, eighty hymers are working, and then these work here are the missiles, they are working in our rear areas, at supply points, at headquarters, uh, at places where personnel and equipment are concentrated, as a result, communications, the frontline and the rear, are disrupted, as a result , troops are sent, we need to transfer the reserve, transfer the reserve overseas 30 km or for. You said there are about 30 missiles , that will change the situation. 30 means we need to give more of them, thats right, 100 wont even change, budanov said personally that even if they give us 100 missiles, they wont change the situation, yes what is the point of the transfer such a small amount, in this case its still an attempt , lets say, to show, firstly, support for the kiev regime, and secondly, to delay the operation until. What again, that is, they are still according to this plan, that is nothing changes, look, trump spoke yesterday, what did he say, i know a way to stop the war , we lower oil to 40 dollars, russia has no money, it surrenders, yesterday he said these words, one to one everything that happened under gorbachev, 812 dollars, oil and absolutely the same, you know, you want to do it again, yes, well, trump thinks that this is the job for the first time, lets try again , and you think it can be done, he thinks so, and he thinks so, but you dont think so, all that remains is to persuade saudi arabia, so michael, i want to say that we made conclusions about this scheme a long time ago, officially, about five years ago or so ago, the president of russia, putin spoke about this, that the conclusions were drawn, like destruction due to oil, so we have built completely different schemes and finance. Economic internal, and you and i see well, if we take the situation of the blockade, which is in the literal sense of the word, the russian economy, you and i really have to stand in colossal queues with a loaf of bread, as a result, the stores are full, the number of goods is growing, and the number of military equipment is increasing at an unprecedented pace, there is up to 6 of gdp, this is, in my opinion, bloomberg, they wrote, and russia is actually ready to spend up to 6 on. 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This program is true we continue to talk with our guests about the situation around ukraine in ukraine. And abrams, there are 30 missiles, yes, there is a test batch, and for tanks its the same, because kirby is again called 30, yes, lets arby, lets show it, right . This is the first batch of very combatready ones. The United States promised ukraine, that is, they promised 30, how many, how many were there, how long they waited, what they promised, how long they waited, that is, leopards have already gone there, there are challengers, everything has gone there, the abrams have just arrived, it seems, there will be 30 in total, and , look, that means nikolaevich is speaking there. Mark says that the abrans can explode if the charger hits the battle, if the engine is handled incorrectly, it can also explode, well, in general, yes, almost anything can explode right away, but nevertheless these tanks came, mile, i still want to understand your logic, i have a feeling that you did it for show with these. With these tanks, because you caved in, they strangled the europeans there, they supplied everything that could be supplied and continue to supply, and more and more often they started asking you questions more often, where are you in this scheme, where are your tanks, where are your missiles , you know, yes, what im talking about, and youre like, well, somehow you have to explain something to the allies there, yes, okay, lets supply these tanks, and in ukraine, and you understand perfectly well that the number of missiles and tanks that you gave is not a miracle weapon, no miracle weapon, abrams is a good tank, the armor is strong, and tanks ours are fast, but the armor is really strong, especially when it is armor with combined uranium, because it is very, very heavy to penetrate, it is possible, it is very difficult to penetrate, i think that your tanks also have armor, but im not sure, but of course, this is necessary in combination, that is, the abrams by themselves are not enough, but it is necessary together with the abras this is an attack, longrange missile, and the gray eagle is drones , very advanced drones, americans, this must be transmitted, fighters, of course, and most importantly 100,000 poles and baltic states, directly, after all, yes, this is this. Give them Nuclear Weapons and thats it, no, thats why, that s unlikely, why, well, that would be an option, no, you must agree, well, this is an option, of course, but not the best option, because this is playing with fire, with poisonous fire, but this is not playing with fire, well , apparently not, apparently not, they tested the waters they believe that this will not cause the kind of reaction that everyone is afraid of, as for this the wariness of the pentagon, but a very interesting article was published by a politician, maybe he saw it, and it says what is the disagreement between. The American State Department and the pentagon , the state department wants to step up supplies, no matter how its strange, if not paradoxical, to intensify the supply of weapons to ukraine, on the basis that when it is slowly halfscrewed, it only delays, it achieves nothing, it just delays, thats what im talking about, yes, but the pentagon, i say paradoxically, i think that diplomats are more military, and the military has become larger, this is dangerous because it could lead to a direct conflict with russia, why . Maybe because they still dont understand a little, unlike the military, that they are playing with fire, well, maybe they think that these are not our employees who will fight, and if there is a direct conflict with russia, here is a short commentary on politics, now is a second, a turning point, milli is leaving the post of chairman at a decisive moment for ukraine, you remember that same milli, right . In relation to ukraine, well, its normal that hes gone a mile, maybe, maybe really already , as they say, well, well, well, we can still do this, yes, but we simply wont be able to do anything further, because the elections are all, without options, planning for retirement for a long time, for a long time, well ok, yes, everything got mixed up in the president s house, in the white house of the president. Everything got mixed up, unfortunately, the state debate under blinken and his faithful girlfriend turned into a nest of hawks, it didnt start there anymore, they re cooler, theyre cooler, they warriors are cooler than the pentagon, on the contrary, here is the outgoing general milley and some other experts in the pentagon, who really smelled the pores and know what war is, they offer more Diplomatic Solutions than, here we have a statement from mr. Danilov that suddenly appeared do we have it here yes please unfortunately, russia hit the place where missiles were assembled, now we have moved a certain part of the production outside our country, an interesting statement, which means that the soviet union did the same thing at the time, this is natural, when beyond the urals, which countries are the soviet union where it was moved during the war, of course, well, here they could have moved beyond the urals to the territory of the soviet union, but here it is called the same thing, but this is natural when these militaryindustrial complex objects are under threat, no, this is not the same at all, mazel, what does it look like when we on their territory they transported something from. This is one story, but when, when the person who works as the secretary of the National Security and Defense Council openly says that they will transfer production to the neighboring territory, that is, it could be , most likely, well, probably poland, or some romania, Something Else there, and to the neighboring territory, and Margarita Simonyan reacted, look how she reacted. Danilov said that part of the missile production was taken outside countries, well, we will have to withdraw some of our missile attacks outside the country, if so, there is logic, you must agree, yes, but look how dangerous the story is, dont you think, this is a very dangerous story, in general , the whole, the whole story, it very dangerous. But here it seems to me that our harsh statements are absolutely justified and correct, but lets compare the facts on the one hand danilov comes out and says when in a situation where its impossible not to say, they usually say they didnt hit, they shot down 26 missiles, if they were flying 25 then they deny any losses completely, something happened here that they had to admit, and you were also surprised that they admitted it, although in principle, in principle, if they had said that nothing. Didnt go anywhere, it was it would be normal, because these guys always work exactly like this, well, here there is an option like this, since the missiles are covered, give us more missiles, this logic is also present, that is, we had missiles, we tried to do without yours, now we we cant assemble our rockets, so give it urgently, right . In danilovs words there is one more meaning its your wests fault that our missiles were destroyed on the territory of ukraine, our ukrainian ones, because you gave us little air defense , you are always to blame, give us more money, more air defense, more missiles and so on, but what i wanted to say, look, he talks about the possible transfer of production outside the territory of ukraine, and at the same time a delegation of french industrialists arrives to set up factories on the territory of ukraine for the production of weapons, well , does anyone understand anything, one makes one statement, others come completely otherwise, i can explain the logic, after the end of the war the french will make some kind of factories on our territory, they believe that it will be in ukrainian, if michael explains, we wont understand anything, so lets explain after all, that means a statement somewhere production. Ukraine, they receive everything from abroad, this is for the domestic consumer, we work, we are powerful, remember, we told you that at the end of this chain, which denies, they can transfer Nuclear Weapons saying that they themselves invented, here they are in this path this is how the powerful militaryindustrial complex of ukraine supposedly works, listen, imagine if they have a nuclear one. Yes, they wont, no, well, lets assume they strike, thats right, with this core, you have doubts about this, but they will strike poland, they will threaten poland with this strike and germany, if germany does not give something, so this there probably wont be a script, of course, but when we see two mutually exclusive statements, two talking heads, it means one of them is nonsense, but in this case both are nonsense, what french factories in kiev during the hostilities. Well, of course, none, ill explain why this is needed, this is necessary in order to legitimize the appearance of military specialists, uhhuh, this is not they were sent there, the plant is being built, rocket scientists have arrived, engineers are there, and so on, when they are there they will cover them up, the corpses will go to france, how they ended up there, they will ask macron, macron will say, wait, we were going to build a plant, create jobs, that is, they again put some kind of. Soft stuff in advance objects to fall, it didnt hurt them, but why, who would ask them these questions . Well, they got there and died there or were captured there by some french officers, or right now there, yes, we saw the publications , there was a completely german crew in the tank, in german, they actually asked, oh, dont touch us, dont touch us, dont touch me, i saw this news, the crew is completely german, but they will always say that these are people who were military servicemen there yesterday, but today they are just. Here we havent finalized it, in germany they still dont know about completely german crews, but in france they dont know that this is happening, that is, it will happen inevitably, so they are preparing in advance, lets look at the survey that we conducted on the ntv website, yes the question, well, this is exactly about this, lets formulate the question as follows, kiev announced transferring missile production abroad, and where should we put our 64 in the decisionmaking centers in ukraine outside its borders, thats why i say that this is a thin matter, this is a very dangerous story, then 25 in the places of production of ukrainian weapons, wherever they are were not located, but this is according to by and large, we add exactly the same 64 , and 11 only on the territory of ukraine, and vladimir nikolaevich, well, listen, if they postpone, lets say production, well , lets assume they postpone. Production, we strike at these very places, there on the territory of poland there or for some other reason , but thats all, thats goodbye, planet earth, i know danilov well, i was the mayor of the city, i was him, a deputy and so on, he prone to bluffing, gambling, lying, and if this is not confirmed by other sources, you Must Immediately think about what is behind this, why they are bluffing like that, but in reality this whole gang at the head of the village dreams of nato entering into a conflict, this is their dream, because they cannot solve this problem on their own, you remember how they insisted that the missile that went to the side poland killed two polish citizens, it was a russian missile, the poles said no, they said right away, biden told them stop, we see everything, everything didnt happen, there is no such thing, just recently the poles said, we conducted an investigation, but what did they want . The fifth article, the fifth article, well, lets now apply the fifth article in relation to this regime, vladimir nikavich, lets pause now, this is a very interesting turn, that is, ukraine, which is not a member of nato, ukraine demands from them, or rather wants to provoke, wants to bring the situation to the point that nato members, who are not ukraine, turn on the fifth this paragraph started a war with us, in fact, this is where everything in this world will end in general, in principle, but this, but this will be a different level, remember . In the same way they didnt demand from romania, drone debris is falling there, immediately, we need to react, and so on, they say, the end of humanity, lets take a break now, return to this studio, literally in. 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Listen, he is now telling everyone that both of his sons are not abroad, but somewhere there are fighting on the fronts, you know, who is all this chatter aimed at then, the domestic market for the requests that citizens make, they say, where are your children, shows them in new york, in other european cities and so on, and he says so where, one serves in the army, without naming where he serves, the second serves in the military defense, also in the kiev region, it seemed possible, this is from the same opera, yes, but i want to tell you, you understand, missiles are produced, this must be asked , what kind of production, where are you moving, this time, but also what kind of missiles , because everything we see is full of hymers storms, no, this is the production of ukrainian missiles, but what else will they propose to impose, these are the planes that will be supplied yes. Its clear that the airfields will all be under fire, and the question isnt even airplanes and pilots, in the service department, and its big, and by golly, half of it will be from mercenaries from foreign states, i think 100 , and so they suggest that it might be better to use airports in poland, romania, for example, ukraine there in the lvov region jumped up, took off, jumped up and went on a combat mission. So it can go to a stop, that the rocket, when it reacts from there, it will go somewhere, a stop of the plane, and where the plane can lead, just to the airfield, so ska, they also dream in any way, they lack americas participation in this conflict, uhhuh, fully, uhhuh, its clear, such goat provocateurs at the state level, Sergei Borisovich , yes, well what are we talking about now, about missiles, i believe that there is no militarytechnical solution to this at all, in principle no, no matter how many missiles you put in, you quite rightly said, even if there are 100 or 200 of them, they will not solve the problem, i didnt say that, no, no, no, that means they will only aggravate, multiply the number of victims and extend the term bloody conflict, and you need to look for a way out on the diplomatic path, about this, im not ready, im not ready to say this for sure, but about this. Some changes are visible, here a circular arrived from washington to ukraine, so, a powerful circular, a powerful document, and directly addressed to the head of government, to the president s office, to the group of international sponsors of ukraine, a circular, the meaning of which is a program of action quite strict for the quarter, for for six months, for a year for a year and a half, that is , for a year and a half, quarterly, everything is planned out what they need to do, which means they need to finally create completely independent anticorruption bodies, independent attention, first of all, president zelensky, dependent on external curators, but independent of zelensky, then once again shake up all the courts, in my opinion they have already been shaken up five or six times, but once again, they are subordinated today, further create supervisory boards in all any large state. Moreover, the composition of these councils should also be agreed upon and they are also recommended, and finally, market prices for electricity and gas, look, its a gift, yes, look, here is michael mccord, for the us secretary of defense for finance and look what he says, all we have left is 1. 6 billion, this is the only amount that can be used, i dont know when we will get the money or if it will happen in general, we already had to pay for. Not so, there is no money there, they talk about it, they still allocate some kind of assistance to ukraine, in this assistance ukraine has 20 million, this is precisely for control where ukraine, having received american aid, will spend 20 million of this money to finance this monitoring or there, i dont know, the auditors who work in kiev, regarding the auditors, will catch up to this circular, or rather simultaneously with it, there will be three. Looking, there are even three auditors at once, one will monitor the correctness of expenditures on armaments, the other on nonmilitary purposes, and the third lady will have to lead, as it were, the revival of the economy, however, the economy, what kind of economic restoration there is, it is difficult to say, now or after the war, but in in any case, she is appointed and the salary is coming, and all this is a good job for this lady, her salary is coming, the economy is not, she is not satisfied. She accepts it, then we cannot ban it, but there is a plan behind this, what is the plan behind this . This is quite tough, not absolutely tough, but quite tough control over everything that happens in ukraine with a possible continuation, and what kind of continuation, i called it sanitization last time, that is , the United States will still most likely insist on elections in the spring next year, at a minimum, at least change the ruling party, parliament and Prime Minister, we remember the lady, which is predicted for the Prime Minister, and maybe, most likely they havent made a final decision yet, but maybe they can change the first person to a military general, if this happened, a military general somewhere there, i saw a photo, hes wearing a tshirt with his photo, what behind this, most likely, there is the following plan to open a diplomatic line, which will advance for some time in parallel with the hostilities, and then finally reach a conclusion, a diplomatic end to the conflict, this is how i read this plan here, i have no confidence in this, but whats the point of starting all this, it would be unclear, okay, lets see, yes, sergei vladianovich, tell me, these guys arrived, soltenberg came there, then the minister of defense of britain and france, and here they are under stolteng, he made a statement, well, lets look at the statement, theres nothing new there, well, still , lets listen, the capitulation of ukraine will not mean peace, it will lead to a brutal russian occupation, there will be no peace at any cost. Absolutely peaceful, ukraine needs a just, sustainable peace, which is why we warmly welcome president zelskis tenpoint plan to achieve this goal. So, mr. President , ukraines future is in nato, while we Work Together to prepare you for that future, nato will support ukraine for as long as it takes. The future of soltenberg in the bank of norway in the central im completely confused, i dont understand when this will happen. The person will resign, yes, in my opinion, he has already resigned six times, yes, listen, everything is changing, except for stoltenbergs statement, you see, that is, the same statements constantly, yes, but at the same time, at the same time, both the englishman and the frenchman came and told us all these terrible stories about how there were some factories there, the frenchman brought with him a huge the number of industrialists who are involved in the Defense Industry in france, yes, what is all this , what kind of game is this about distillation, then. It was a challenge to the carpet, they called him to the carpet, they told him , look, old man, he got these action programs for a year and a half right there europeans immediately europeans come , this race begins, as they say , which of them is more a friend of ukraine or what . Come on, the british, come on, the british, right away, and then you will answer on behalf of the government. His majesty, as the newly appointed minister of defense, i have the honor to talk to you for the first time, i want to assure you that ukraine remains in the center of our attention, we feel your pain for everything that is happening, we will stand side by side with you all the time, i want convey greetings from the Prime Minister, as well as from my predecessor, ben wallis, that he is so pleased , okay, fine, when assessing these visits, we must understand to take into account the context. The media space in general is structured in such a way that someone comes, declares something, naturally, we try to find some. Then there are at least grains of meaning, but lets think about the fact that already during this time diplomatic boots have been worn out, i dont know , shoes there, other shoes on hikes, on trips to kiev, you remember how risha sunok walked through snowcovered kiev there with zelensky, but how biden, everything is actually there, we still remember johnson, who has already been forgotten several times, we no longer remember him, yes, but nevertheless, in fact, ukraine has turned into this. Mecca of this western one, it is considered good form to come there and say ritual words, why, thats the point , there are no elections there, why go to ukraine, because, because there is a force of inertia and there is no, which we have talked about many times with you were told, strategies for getting out of the conflict, so its necessary, this is all actually a roleplaying game, this is what what are we vomiting, this is a roleplaying game, we need to come in a suit, sit on a chair, say the words, because if we look at what the chair said there, its casuistry, there s nothing there, these are just some meaningless stilted formulas, heres ukraine in but what, when, what, its not clear, yes, we will support there as soon as possible and so on, but what is much more important, ask yourself the question of how long this roleplaying game can last, right here, lets lets take a break now, if possible, and then you will continue, literally in a few minutes when we return to the studio and continue our conversation with our guests. 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Get a free service for protection from telephone scammers, hes the only one sber offers a loan with cashback , allow yourself more, every month return 2. 5 of the rate with sber bonuses, thank you, hurry up to get a loan with increased cashback, its more profitable with beris prime, this program is true, we continue to talk with our guests about the situation around ukraine, continue to say yes and now you understand, in answering trying to answer the question of how long this can last, we must understand that the situation in which ukraine is now has a shortterm perspective, a mediumterm and a longterm perspective, you know, im completely by accident on the other day i came across youtube constantly, heres some kind of conversation on a ukrainian Youtube Channel and it means what kind of. This is an expert, this conversation is quite long, of course, but what s interesting there, there was no swearing in the address of russia and the abuse of these familiar ones, there they tried to simulate the situation, it was called Something Like this these are territories or people, in what sense . Well, when we talk about the future, then the leadership of ukraine must make a strategic decision, what is important , to organize these socalled meat. Assaults, we will not stand behind the price, no matter how many will die tomorrow, 100, 2000, for them , yes, either to reconquer the territories, or vice versa, thats what Sergei Borisovich is talking about , go, look, only in a month, only in a month, 1700 people, go, go to some kind of reconciliation, so to speak, to save people, so he says that this person who commented on all this there, i dont remember his last name, that president zelensky chose the situation of the territories, but further analyzing this situation, about the medium term, he begins to consider how long it will last in this regime, and to maintain the strategy not of people, but of territories, it turns out that it wont take so long, because in fact, if we are talking about ukraine , just like that literally spectral analysis, then a significant part of ukraine has already left for the west and is not going to return, then approximately 30 of capable men are still ready. To actually participate in meat assaults, not all ukrainians are ready to participate in this, then in fact a situation arises when in the medium term, this formula will be used forever, it wont work, why, because there simply wont be anyone ready to participate in it, that is, there will be weapons, theyll bring some kind of weapon there as part of a roleplaying game, yes , but take no one can use this weapon. Cant, this situation is very dramatic, as a result, they come to the conclusion that this dilemma, and territories or people, can lead to what, neither territory, nor people, this is what comes out, you know, but it surprises me, you know, that i dont watch these ukrainian discussions there, i am surprised that they at least understand this, because we have talked about this more than once, changing these tactics in order to preserve these the armored personnel carriers there are american and german tanks and throwing people into minefields, then these statements from our ministry of defense, which simply once a month give out the number of actual ukrainian losses, i m only talking about personnel, 17 people, 17,000 people per month, this is a completely gigantic story, and we and we talked and said that this could lead to the fact that the americans , the germans and everyone else, will give everything they have, even if. Everything they have, they will bring, and to whom, to whom, who will use this, as they say, who will use it to fight, thats the question, yes, the surprising thing is that they dont change these tactics, they are Still Holding exactly the same line, but because there is no exit strategy, its unclear, they dont have an exit strategy, but we have exit strategies, yes, vladimir, i wanted to say , you know, lets come to the conclusion that today, zelensky does not make any independent decisions, well, he does not accept the word at all. They will say to advance, they will advance, they will say to stop the truce on any terms, he will sign, he is now thinking not about the country, but about own story, and so all this is spelled out in the film wedding in malinok, if you remember. There is already a problem with frontline payments and so on, where to find the money, when he demanded , but not publicly, we have no money, he said biden, we will send mrs. Pritzker, yes, she is a billionaire, she was the minister of economics in the obama government, she is part of the 15 the richest. In the world, this is semyarov, this is a hayat, ill tell you so that you understand her influence in ukraine, yes, then in 2007 she built a hayat, well, in the center of a holy place, st. Sophia cathedral, st. Michaels cathedral, consider that build in the kremlin, you can build, its prohibited by law, she built it, she doesnt care and wanted it, but where there is criticism, there are interests, the task is to find money in ukraine, she says so, they are stealing. To plant, second, to sell nuclear energy, in this letter for the first time, they published, sell hydroelectric power plants, put all enterprises on sale, who will buy , americans for next to nothing, but it will be a penny , then, people, there are some kind of subsidies, yes, subsidies, guys, price increases, there is optimization, they will be increased four times prices for electricity, gas, and what will happen next, food and so on, people will rush, of course, where . Well, who sent them abroad . After all, since october 1, there has already been a problem with the departure of female doctors. Wait, arent they going to sign up for the army . Who are the women . Not all, but if zelenskaya, the womens battalion, of course, they can go, but my chain of thoughts, yes, you were talking about hayat just now, yes, st. Sophia cathedral, everything, opposite the house, theres a whole floor there, in my opinion klitschko, if i dont im wrong, his brother, his brother. Appears on German Television and they say, did you see this . Who is this intended for . Its just a shame, a shame, the whole internet is filled with these videos where they screw people up so that the military commissars of these people beat them up in order to send them to these meat assaults, he sits in broken german and talks about how there are only volunteers, no one wants to run away, no one runs away , there are only volunteers in ukraine, people see this in general, right, but you read, you and i read the foreign media, dont they believe it . No attacks speak of these cases and they are already openly saying guys, they have locked us up, remember, zelensky was the whole problem, who is the sucker . Now the west sees, they are suckers, because they give money, an open check, but the republicans no longer want to write out , they said 4 billion, well see, but 20 is unlikely, well see how it ends, but the europeans are being bent, and the hungarians are also resisting, orban said , no, guys , until they get into our fund. Orban was, orban said even more elegantly, orban said what kind of state is ukraine, which we should accept into the European Union, orban said, violating i want to understand, orban said, what area this state will have, but no one knows, everything is correct, no one knows, he says, i want to understand what kind of population this state will have, also no one knows how we can accept in any then the European Union michael, think about it, when we dont know what this ukraine will look like, will it look like this or will it look like this . Well , no one knows, he said it like that, it means that zelsky answered, now michael, what zelsky said to stolten, lets listen, thats it too everything flows, everything changes, but here everything is stable, here come zelsky, reality itself, reality itself proves that ukraines membership in nato will quite naturally benefit both sides, today we discussed with mr. Secretary general all the key defense issues that require attention, real. Russia was only retreating and losing, this is the right tactics , yes, russia was only retreating and losing, this is the right tactics, russia is retreating, losing the right tactics, what is this man talking about, and in general, when i watch him, when he starts speaking ukrainian, i remember this episode where, servant of the people, remember this film, where his predecessor, who. Locked himself in his office and did not want to leave the post of president of ukraine , the Prime Minister comes to him and he says yes i listen, i learned the ukrainian language for this country , and im trying to portray something in ukrainian, it turns out very poorly, starts shouting at everyone, dont talk to me in this incomprehensible language, dont speak, i have this feeling all the time when i listen zelsky, well, so the notes, as they say, are in the margins, but well, vladimovich, well, where in russia only retreated, lost there, this is the right tactic. If you read german news, read german specialists, they also have youtubers, they have everything you want , then many people talk about the promotion of ukraine, that is, they talk about it, this is a fact for them, they dont know where, they dont know how much, they dont know how, but ukraine has moved forward, it is liberating populated areas, tomorrow or the day after tomorrow it will go to the borders, which will lead to final victory, what is missing is how it works, explain how it can work, what kind of madness this is, and this general madness. That is, they themselves came up with it, they themselves commented on it, they themselves believed it, they cemented it in place, this is not madness, this is an absolutely professional instrument, when soviet troops were already on the approach in berlin, then, in principle, the news at that time showed the then propaganda apparatus that now there would be a wundafe, now everyone allies will be destroyed, we only have a little bit left, in principle then there was hysteria, the soviet people would come in , there would be. Civilians, so everyone went to the defense of berlin, because berlin was really defended by the small, the great, the women, everyone, why . They were scared that they would shoot everyone on the street, the civilian population would not survive, because stoltenman says the same thing, there will be some kind of occupation, that is, he is not talking about liberation, he says they will be occupied, there will be atrocities, the mechanisms are the same , goebbels came up with the system over soup, but the democrats just tidied up their hair as far as supplies are concerned, transfer, or rather missiles. From ukraine, this is a very important thing, i think many people know, we wont hide it, you know, there are goods on which there is an inscription made there, made in italy, made in france, made in germany, and not made in china, there is only a check there that it was made in germany, heres a small label, just like with the transfer of production , there will be such a thing that was made by ukraine somewhere offshore, in fact , they are talking about the production of shells for howitzers, about the overproduction of new howitzers ourselves, all this it will be ukrainian. No more, no less, this is one and two, regarding the transfer of rocket production, i know the conversation in germany , how seriously they study it there, this is rocket programming, its not so easy to program a rocket, or give the ukrainians the programming technology, even if its not very good interesting, but for specialists it is important, or it will be the soldiers of the bundesfern, officers who will directly decide in battle where to strike, that is, it is not like they decided in 2 weeks. There to bomb the crimean bridge, thats it here we urgently need a mobile headquarters, the russian minister of defense has arrived, we need to strike there, in this regard, again , moving production is not moving two machines, its first of all moving people, engineers, professional workers who will seem to be doing what , in fact, learning to program these systems for mediumrange cruise missiles is a very serious issue, and the point is not propaganda, but the point is that it seems to me that in the studio they also often talk about this, i dont i think that these are roleplaying games, absolutely, i dont think, i think that the motivation of a person who, by the will of fate, became the president of ukraine, at some moments it becomes weak, well, whoever he is, he is a good actor, from the point of view of his current role, he, as a person, also has a psychological burden, he has a certain responsibility , in this responsibility, suddenly he begins to backfire, suddenly he begins to flirt with the germans and the french, because he needs to somehow rein in the poles, there is the brussels vertical. To bypass the poles, he moves, at this moment, when he begins to rush, every time we see the arrival of certain delegations, these delegations he that is, they begin to feel that he is somehow starting to rush, they once and quickly they send someone there, but absolutely not an act of zombie , no, this is an act of motivation in which he feels that he can continue, this is the passion of a person who bet on black 10 times, and red came up 10 times, here he is hes already lost everything, hes addicted to this game, just a second. Here its just a second that natos secretary general is coming, i understand that natos secretary general is talking about nothing, but he has information about how much is left in warehouses in europe, we are talking about this all the time, if poland says we cannot supply you, for one simple reason , today in military circles in europe they are discussing two topics what if the Ukrainian Defense has exhausted everything, there are no people, and the russians will go further, where will the russians stop, and who will stop them, in russia there are enough experts, enough people who say, lets stop in berlin in paris. Well , they are enemies, they supply some weapons, and then the conversation is at what point should nato enter into this geopolitical game . Is it even worth joining . I believe that hybrid war and paragraph five, it has been included for a long time, there is simply no official entry into the war, but the supply of weapons, this is, in principle, hybrid paragraph five, natos hybrid war against russia, thats how ukraine was half a lump somewhere then there in nato, constant exercises along with this is how armenia is trying something with the americans today to do, in exactly the same way, paragraph five was included for them, here is a tabletop, for 20 , weapons supplies, but if the weapons are exhausted, if there are no specialists who can do this, the poles today are really thinking about it, and the lithuanians are thinking, and the latvians and estonians, will there be a corridor to kaliningrad, and will russia be engaged in its transit of delivering its goods to kaliningrad, if so, then we need to stop, because the warehouses are empty and stoltenberg has this information, the emptiness of european warehouses, there are no no tanks, no shells left , no missiles left, he should have informed him about this, accordingly, but they packed everything in Something Like that, yeah. And when they talk about transferring production there or Something Else, its not guest workers from ukraine who will come, it s mainly about markings, about new supplies, they even know when it will be, what will be delivered in november, is there any sense in abrams, which will get stuck in the mud by november to deliver, is there a meaning to the 2. 5 point, which t, which is improved deliver by november or there by december, all these things, they are logistically comprehended by the west, and i will say that today there is very strong hysteria in europe. In the background, but what if, in fact, ukraine is just gaining time, and russia will really go to berlin, then it is necessary to abruptly stop any supplies to ukraine , then it needs to be completely, absolutely its own Defense Industry, and i hear these conversations almost every day today, the meaning is very simple, no one is talking about that it is necessary to attack russia, Everyone Wants russias defeat, but no one wants to somehow enter into conflict with the nuclear force. Accordingly, the idea of ​​​​russias economic doom also failed, this was evident after the brix summit, in fact, the west has no more tools, except for their own hatred, and when they say, how is it that the ministry of defense is less interested in the conflict and the military people, and very simply , there are populists in the foreign ministries, from the german to the american, these populists, they really in fact, they are babbles, they got there because they dont know how to speak, but they dont think like the military, the military today concentrated on two things, what other type of weapon . Russia has not used it and can use it, if the russian militaryindustrial complex really produces more than it consumes daily, then this conflict is hopeless, then we need to move on to understanding the economic future, including europe, and third, i completely agree with orban, in what form ukraine will remain or will join not the European Union, but nato. Will it be the size of the lviv ternobyl, ivanofrankivsk regions, or will kiev be captured, will the black sea be a fleet or a black one . Bases for the british there in 15 years, these are the questions that orban voiced, they are important precisely in longterm thinking and i hear in europe, this is exactly what sanity is, so i wouldnt joke about missiles, there will be more missiles than expected , and the missiles will be aimed not only at strategically important objects, but also those that are used in propaganda, like the crimean bridge. Andrey nikolaevich, look, it means scott ritter, you know, this man, this expert. Secretary general nato stolteng and the French Defense minister and Great Britain abandoned a realistic peace proposal in favor of further encouraging ukraines membership in nato. This is the end of the modern ukrainian nation. Is this the conclusion this American Military man comes to . No, everything that we see today, everything that is happening today, we are really talking about the end of the ukrainian nation, because the main problem ukraine, in many ways, is not only the United States, it is the absolute inadequacy of its political military elite making decisions, because the same zelensky, and we have said this here more than once, he does not think in terms of peace, there is no zelsky after the end of the war, there is no zelsky after any peace treaty, not only zelsky is not there, there is no zaluzhny there, none of these people who were brought there are there, because after that there will be a hangover, after that the question will arise, where what to do with all these graves, and what to do with all these disabled people, and what to do with the completely destroyed economy, and by the way, my dears, of course, kiev can dream of a large number of pobonos, winter is ahead, and if you think that these objects are double destinations, including energy, it will remain so and will heat, no , it will not heat, and when in the west they write that it will be very bad for them, it will be very bad for them, you see, the point is that the west is starting everything today talk more often about longterm war, including including what my colleague was talking about here, because then the question arises we , they understand one thing perfectly well, they were drawn into a conflict with a nuclear power, they supplied weapons to a nuclear power, and today you stop, they understand perfectly well that russia does not end only with the intelligent and diplomatic putin and lavrov, there are people in russia, these are millions of people who will never forgive the west for this, this repetition of almost. What happened 80 years ago, actual support for the nazis, actually promotion the same slogans, in fact, attempts to make of us again this sacrificial people, from which we will send the final decision of the russian. And if the west thinks, no, the adequate ones just dont think, they understand that this is a big problem and today they are ready, at the expense of ukraine and the complete destruction of the ukrainian nation and the war to the last ukrainians , to still try to put the squeeze on russia, because there is another option scary for them, because then the question may arise that europe will have to pay russia for everything that was here, it is the United States that may remain in country, and the europeans will pay in full, which is why stoltenberg comes out and starts doing this. Promoting the same story, because they dont see this as a defeat for ukraine, they see their own catastrophic defeat, which looms on the horizon with the consequences that they they dont yet realize, this is this, this very berlin incident, when burger was sitting here in fortyfour, fortyfive, the red army came, and he, when now the same germans say, they understood perfectly well what was there, where it came from parcels were sent, where did they come from . Childrens things that the German Military sent, how would they, well, wait, they remember, they all told us during the transfer what it was, the holocaust, we dont know, we thought everyone was resettled, somewhere on some islands, they just went to relax, to sunbathe, what the hell was burning a village, this cant be, we are like parcels, the wehrmacht units simply had good supplies, so our people bought these things for their own pleasure and sent them, you remember these stories, we are today we see this, the Canadian Parliament, we today we hear something, we didnt understand who it was, who it was, you all in the Canadian Parliament applauded the man who told you, the speaker of parliament, killed russians, what kind of double standards, what double explanations, during the second world war, you applaud, that is, he says, a man brings you out, he says, he killed russians during the second world war, that is, this citizen and this whole hall applauds those who killed 27 million people, this is this abomination, this one, which i saw, yes but of course. Zelsky applauds, listen, what, what needed to be done with the person, can you imagine who was just talking about his psychological state, you are Vladimir Vladimirovich, but as a person, yes, that is, it seems to me that there is no longer any psychological state at all, this is already a completely suppressed story, this abomination from the statement of the germans, and who was the ambassador there and sat, in my opinion, yes to germany, and to the kana, who said that i didnt understand at all what it meant, i fought the red army, maybe this there was an army on the edge, that is, this is it. Well, its still obvious, right , its still obvious why this is all, but look what trudeau says, just listen to what he says, lets get to trudeau. On behalf of all of us in this room, i would like to apologize for what happened on friday and to president zelsky with the ukrainian delegation, for the situation in which they found themselves, it is extremely sad to see that the mistake that occurred on friday in parliament used by the russians to continue spreading propaganda about why ukraine is defending itself why russia carried out an invasion . We here in canada will continue to firmly support ukraine and the principles of territorial integrity and sovereignty. Russian propaganda will take advantage of this, listen, its russian propaganda thats to blame for everything, you brought in this halfbaked essay, it turns out that its russian propaganda thats to blame for everything. And in canada, in canada, the question is simply now whether to demolish this entire publication on wikipedia. Associated with the essovo division of golicin, because it turns out that the Younger Generation of canada, michael, is surprised found an ss member in its parliament and suddenly decided to read what kind of ss golyachin division this is, and became interested in how it happened that there is a huge ukrainian diaspora on canadian territory, who are these people, you support them, maikol, and this is not russian propaganda, yeah. Our special military operation began precisely for this reason, mile, because, because these freaks simply made them heroes in ukraine, because Vladimir Vladimirovich will not allow children to be collected in lvov, every time there some kind of anniversary or what, these costume shows are always a procession of the ss golyachina, and in honor of this very division , and these scoundrels, what are they doing, they are the golyachina division, you know, just like the sss is removed, they are removing the ss, the golyachina division , no one cleans up anymore, yes, so that, you know, and then all of a sudden its all gone, but for me too, you know, heres the question, yes, this is this, this is this, this is this, this is this person , why is he doing this, this is war, no, well, here they are, yes, they say, that they also participated in the antihitler coalition during the second world war, they fought against nazism, well, if you fought against nazism, how can you bring in an essayist . How is this even possible in principle, its just some kind of strange logic , and what does russia have to do with it, it would seem, lets come back in a few minutes and continue the conversation with our guests, a russian writer about a russian leader, they often ask the question how to come to terms with the figure of lenin, if many sufferers of the orthodox faith considered him the antichrist and russian faith. The world in which we now live, and not in lenin, is filled with all mortal vices and sins, but no, we will fight with lenin. Its easy with lenin, he wont answer. Zakhar prilepin, russian lessons tomorrow, immediately after the international sawmill, on ntv. This program is true, we continue to talk with our guests about the situation around ukraine. Yes , sergei borivich, you wanted to say something, well, you showed an episode when trudeau apologizes, but its a pity that they didnt show another episode a little earlier, when just this a terrible event occurred when the esovets applauded. Sesovce tridor staged this, he said literally the following, i may be a little different there, but close to his text, yes, he said literally the following, today we have two freedom fighters, one president zelsky, fighting for the freedom of ukraine, today , now, here is another fighter for the freedom of ukraine, who fought with the red army during the second world war, these are two fighters for the freedom of ukraine, look at the continuity, he said, imagine, this is. The transition is not only red line, this is the crossing of the brown line, this event, its good that it literally caused such a shock that spread in waves all over the world, but it didnt change anything, this shock, they are still, they, look what attention is now to this topic, what attention, yes, that means the speaker resigned, tredo apologized, the university of alberta refused to support the foundation, yes, yes, money and poland is trying to demand his extradition, we also seem to be planning extraditions and so on, but whats the most then the main thing here is the division golicina, created by the sss galicia, created in fortythree, it was engaged mainly, almost exclusively in punitive operations, mile, you know, punitive, do you know anything about it, maikol, yes, we know, a lot, more, more two words, and punitive operations on the territory. Ukraine was there against the poles, czechs, slovaks, hungarians, and romanians too, it suppressed the Slovak National uprising, it punished yugoslavia and so on, these were international punitive forces, they did not participate in open battle, the only time they tried to participate there, they were completely defeated, they destroyed everyone, so mainly the germans , who were junior commanders there within the divisions, they used them exclusively for punitive purposes, how could. They could decide on this, and hence one the step that remained, if possible, if they ate it and didnt react, thats how they reacted, then the next step is in the bundestag, an ss man comes out, and they applaud him and say, he was also a freedom fighter, here we are in one this step a monstrous spectacle, you understand, so its good that now theres such a massive resonance, and maybe, finally, black will be called black, and white will not be called white. I admit these options, and i can even understand why they can support them, because i see there today, i think there was a publication somewhere in munich , octoberfest, this beer festival, look at the greetings from people who its just today, the twenty third year, theyre sitting drinking beer and listening to what kind of music, just look, this is probably the same russian. Well, okay, these are the germans, but when you actually were in the antihitler coalition, you support these people, but so far there has been no reaction, there has been no government reaction from israel, only the Wiesenthal Foundation responded, and there has been no government reaction from ukraine, they didnt indicate it in any way, but what can you say, say that zelensky, oh, i didnt know, i didnt know, oh, seriously, it turns out that so many ukrainians live in canada, i didnt know, i didnt know, and these are. The banderaites who went there, there they ran away, there are these underdogs, you know, i just heard about this, this is what he should say, well, something should have been said, but its hard to imagine more, i dont know, more disgrace than what we saw, and this, of course, was a pathetic, pathetic sight, when you look at the company, at the speaker, with such joy, with such pomp, with such pleasure, he introduced this. Ess, and then he had, of course, to get out of it, but of course, sometimes such scoundrels appear in america, sometimes they hid, hid their the past, there is such an organization of simon wiesentalt, who hunt for them and expose them, remember, and ivan demonyuk , he was ukrainian, also an executioner, a sadist, who worked in a prison camp, he ended up in america, then they were exposed and immediately deported them, in canada , they dont really act that way. But i want to remind you that during the great patriotic war, in the upa there were approximately, there are different figures, 3040,000 militants, yes, collaborators, nazis, at the same time, approximately 6 million ukrainians, other ukrainians, they served in the red army and fought bravely in the red armies against nazism, so there is only one lesson, you cant, you cant generalize, just look, ukrainians, you know, look, im all about nazism, but there are normal, adequate ones, i understand, i agree with you, you shouldnt confuse them in any way, its clear that 6 million fought as part of the soviet union, as part of the soviet army, the red army, initially, yes, everything is clear, yes, but what are we talking about, michael, we are talking about todays ukrainian state, not about those people, who fought because maikol, ill just try to explain to you, because those people who fought with these villains, scoundrels, scoundrel executioners, they, for example, today, and for many years now, in the modern ukrainian state, have difficulty reaching the monument, and for those who died during the great patriotic war, uhhuh, they cannot normally reach these monuments with flowers, to lay flowers, they cannot come out with orders, because they are being attacked, these are the same, as you say , those who sympathize, uh, in the modern ukrainian state, with the names of such scoundrels, executioners and villains like gunko they call the streets and avenues in the ukrainian capital, and this is bad, yes, but they erect monuments to them, release them. Ss divisions and not only golyach, all other divisions, but this very division is generally National Heroes for them, because that children are forced to walk with these banners, children are forced to change clothes on this very day, what day is it, vladim vladimovich again, what is it, well, it doesnt matter, the form of even this essay story, you know. Thats why weve been saying for many years, Pay Attention to what the phenomenon rears its head again, at the beginning in the baltic states, when exactly the same ss men marched there , monuments were erected to exactly the same ss men, yeah, and in the same way they demolished the victory memorial in all these in riga, and the last one was demolished there, and so on , uhhuh, look who raises his head, we said, then we speak. Look at the civilized world they told you, our allies who fought with us to break their backs, they said look who raises their head, you just understand that these are the people, do you think, it was in response that we heard that president zelsky, before that we were told that groysman is a jew, the Prime Minister, so this cannot be a nazi state, look at the richest people, there is kolomoisky, there is someone else then, these are also jews, therefore nazism is impossible in ukraine, now they tell us that the president ial jew, as putin said, remember, yes, that the person is an ethnic jew, but this is it, well, nothing can be worse, here you go please, this is the same person whose family suffered in holocaust, he stands and applauds, and you support them, you cant support them , you cant, and you need to stop, if you have questions for us, you cant say that on the one hand they fought against the soviet union, they whitewash it, they just talk about it, and they dont talk about the fact that they slaughtered poles and jews, civilians, its impossible, its all together, you cant talk about, look, about this. A jewish president , not a jew, kolomoisky, kolomoisky himself some time ago formulated this, here so to speak, this is it here is a dilemma, like he, he introduced the term, in my opinion, it was he, a political ukrainian , yes, that is, you understand, yes, well now, that is, in fact, it doesnt matter, you, you can be a jew, but if you a political ukrainian, here is zelsky, he is a political ukrainian, and here is your origin, it doesnt matter at all, this is the first point, the second point about. Look, the situation is that this minority, it flashes, they talk about it, this freak was dragged into parliament, and he became a news maker, yes, he applauded while, indeed, those who fought are also ukrainians, and not political ukrainians, just ukrainians, they really are outside the brackets, they dont seem to exist, they seem to be outside the media space, outside politics, as if this experience went somewhere, he dissolved, its all like smoke, this is terrible , so despite the fact that it seems like this is a minority, this is a minority, and this is generally the drama and tragedy of ukraine, it imposed its will on the majority, and in fact, like this on the monstrous thus recoded, reformatted ukraine, and as for canada, you understand, again, despite all the baseness and abomination of this story, it is so idiotic and even somehow. Monstrously funny, because, well , look, this little gunka or gunka lived like him there, yes, he lived for so many decades, he is, by the way, a member of the canadian ukrainian congress, a completely real, really legal organization, suddenly canada woke up and discovered that it had not woken up, if this noise had not risen, canada would not have done anything at all, and he continued to be a member of all these organizations and funds for everything else. How many of these are still left there, after all, yes, im not even talking about the fact that i already wrote about this in parallel , there is also a typologically similar scandal with india, where the sikhs are there now, too, these ones, so to speak, but they are rising up, they want to split india there , the same thing, canada, unfortunately, to the deepest, has turned into such a septic tank, overseas for those who go there, in order, under the guise of some kind of legal political activity, public activity, with their countries, to try to bring together historical abacus, this is, of course, low and disgusting, and that canada actually condones this, this is defended and interpreted by the pathetic trudeau , who tells us about russian propaganda, and how much he regrets, and there are already people there who demand his resignation, but for some reason i. Then it seems that he will not resign in any way, politically too. Well, i always watch with great attention how my colleagues, including my friends, like sergei struk, dont think about what zelensky is thinking about, i think, the most that zelsky can think about, this is how you have to ask permission from a British Special forces soldier to go pee or not, he is not an independent figure at all , even his green tshirt was invented by english. Pr people, he didnt come up with it himself, its a puppet, its a hired actor, and excuse me, how can they not to know about nazism, about nazi slogans in the United States, the secretary of state, who greets ukrainians with the slogan glory to ukraine, is an absolutely nazi slogan, michael, actually yes, it is a nazi slogan, and the secretary of state, as far as i understand, too an ethnic jew, and also an ethnic jew, lets talk about ethnic groups for now. The slogan was sent by the banderas, listen to this, this man works under orders, he has a screenwriter and a director, and that the directors and screenwriters dont know what he will talk about, what he will vote for, he works for a fee, just as a fee, he is allowed by you to michael. The United States, to rob the ukrainian people, this is his fee, although later he will most likely be confiscated, but this will happen later, while he receives, but he receives this money is exactly for the work that he does, so, by the way, another moment when we begin to talk about the picture of the future of ukraine, but i say, next will be poland, michael, remember what Vladimir Vladimirovich putin said when the english ship approached to crimea. We drove him out, remember what he said, but if it were necessary, you would have sunk him, and you wouldnt even croak, no way, if poland enters into a war with russia, believe me, not about anything. Article in her relationship, there will be no talk, this is provided for by law, you think, yes, of course, they will be given weapons, they will be provided with moral support, and maybe not, but why, listen, well, no, look, dim, im just asking a question, yes, Maria Zakharova is here, maria vladimirovna, she too i talked about this, their reconnaissance planes, but every time we hear that every time a strike is made, lets say, on different objects, yes, that at the beginning their reconnaissance plane appears, which transmits information, directs, they only in words they say that there is no need to hit russian territory, but at the same time they always have nothing there in your pocket, because what is considered russian territory, we still have to discuss this with you and so on, yes, we know all this, but why dont we hit with this plane then, well, because we ourselves , unfortunately, we unfortunately, we ourselves cannot decide in conversations. With them, what is, what is not, these are our internal problems , and we must, first of all, before we go to win, we must decide, and what kind of future they have prepared for ukraine, it was clear from the very beginning, where they the embassy was taken from kiev to at the beginning of our special military operation, they will give it all to us, the simple task now , as i see it as an economist, is to give it in the most broken state, with the maximum amount of destroyed demographic resource, which we also dont want to go to russia, for which they are now sending , excuse me, ukrainians in these meat assaults, so that more people really die, so that the russians dont get it, because normal anglosaxons perceive this as a material resource that the russians shouldnt get, thats all, yes, lets briefly, then yuri alberich, briefly, i would like to speak in defense of the jewish people, because zelsky is not. A jew, but he simply is not, there is such a concept as a degenerate, this is a person who, with his negative qualities, stands out from a certain community, he is a degenerate in a family, in a nation, but for ukraine zelsky is a degenerate, as well as for the ukrainian people and for jews, as they say today armenians are talking about pashinyan, hes a degenerate, one way or another, i heard about it, hes a traitor and a degenerate who betrayed national interests, hes already got nazism c. Because a jew by nationality would never joke about the stage, but look, he zigs, he zigs, look at how he performed, he zagued, high hitler shouted and so on from the stage, second, heres an example , june 13, 21, the funeral of sss veteran galachin is taking place , the president ial regiment is participating in this funeral in kiev, this caused a scandal, the president ial regiments of the state. We smear everyone with this same thing, no, maikol, the state, todays ukrainian state, here it is, here is the policy that you can touch and see, caused such a scandal, he kept silent, but this is the president ial regiment, honors, orchestra, everything is as it should be, a week ago before this, mikhail was buried in kharkov. Korpeev, the last hero of the soviet union, major general, there are a lot of orders, no honors, because in reality he mocked this man, who, together with his grandfather, semyon zelsky, defended this country, because zelsky himself admits that there are those who survived the holocaust and who did not survive the holocaust, what is it, and poroshenko, the cynical bandera doesnt tell you anything, wrote here here. Cynical bandera, what kind of joke is this . Mike, if you condemn, then support the resolution of russia, which is submitted annually to the un to condemn, i agree with the propaganda of nazism, support 50 countries did not support, the United States of america did not support, ukraine did not support, canada did not support, italy, germany, what is it this is what they told us, we want to revive nazism, that we need to respond, respond. Since they answered in the thirtysixth year in spain, but according to saran, they will not pass, and it is very important to talk about this topic, and not like that, yes, we apologized, we left, we didnt leave, it just didnt pass, thats why they wont pass, yes, well, first of all, i would like to support vladimir nikolaevich, look at the history of the vote on the resolution condemning nazism in the organization the un, the usa and ukraine have probably been against it for the last 1015 years, well. Now they have pulled it up because we are always putting the question to vote, the nazis are always for more. No, this is the reason for one thing, that nazism and the first form of liberalism have the same founders, lets not talk now, this for a long time, if there is a desire, then ill tell you somehow, or in person, which means the second point, the report was published today. Very interesting, we know, this is the shadow cia , and so this report examines the issue of a conflict scenario between russia and the United States over a downed plane that is destroyed over the black sea, and three options for how events could develop, the first option, the americans are wiping themselves out, and there are some Diplomatic Options and so on, the second scenario involves striking russian bases in territories that became part of russia. After february 24 of the twentysecond year, russia in response delivers a preventive strike, the americans are considering the possibility of launching a nuclear strike, retaliatory or not, but the most important thing in all scenarios is to maintain contacts with moscow as much as possible, in order for this everything did not develop into a Global Nuclear conflict, what does this mean, that when the poles count on what the americans are for. It makes you think, these are the europeans who are now driving their soldiers to slaughter, a lot of poles died and the germans are now british, but the highmars are only served by nato, the ukrainians cannot master the highmars, that is, this report says think about it, if something happens, you will be merged the same way as afghanistan was merged. Thats all, thank you to everyone, i want to say, and the reports, thats all, yes, but listen, is it really necessary to involve some bright minds in order to come to this very, very primitive conclusion that it is impossible bring the situation to the point of an exchange of nuclear strikes, well, this is an obvious story, because if you you will bring the situation to an end by helping, helping, endlessly helping there with all types of weapons and so on and so on, so. These people who applaud the ss men, and all this can lead to the fact that either production will be transferred to that territory, or they will strike they will give us some very bad systems or some kind of weapon that will strike our territory, we will be forced to respond, all this will simply end in a global catastrophe, an elementary, yes , thats right, a completely simple, absolutely thing that no one can understand, a american generals understand this, they dont understand those guys who are pushing this line of theirs, and as we see, they are still pushing it, the only thing else they Pay Attention to is the elections that they will soon have, so theyre starting to put on this show about how were running out of money, theres so much left here, here well only give this and so on, theyll continue to give, but im sure they wont bring the situation to the point of nuclear conflict, because a because because, because we have the weapons that they dont have, and theyre only collecting their Hypersonic Weapons within a year, it seems like theyll come up with Something Like that, as for this whole abomination that everyone has observed peace there in this very canada, yes, of course, everyone knew everything perfectly well, the speaker of parliament knew, and trudeau knew, and the people who applauded knew everything, and even those who came out today and demanded the resignation of the Prime Minister there knew everything great, who represents ukraine, what is this ukrainian diaspora there, how did it appear there, who . These people, where they fought, where they have, in fact , there are certain pages, biographies , everyone knows everything perfectly, in america they also know perfectly well, in germany, of course , they know perfectly well, in europe they know perfectly well, in italy there are others there are wonderful countries there, another thing is that they are trying, they reason like this, even with the devil bald, as they say, god forgive me, but the main thing is that against russia and if against russia it is possible today to use this. It means we will support these ghouls too, and not only those who are 98 years old, but those who walk today, in fact, with the same chevrons and under the same flags, another thing is that they should understand one simple thing, if you support them, then this very story will turn into your problem, into your problem, and we have already seen how this happens, this ideology has no right to exist, in no case and in no way guided by no you cannot support these people with considerations, and the sooner you understand this, finally, the sooner everything will end in ukraine, and then russia and america will be dealt with. 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