Okay, everyone. Take a big, deep breath, because we are just 30 days out, and all week this week, we were reminded again and again what is at stake. First, we are going to talk to two people who know very well what hes capable of. Michael cohen and harry done. And then the Law Frame is here to tell us what comes next after a new Bombshell Report from Jack Smith. And later, Secretary Pete ButtigiegBattles Information amid Hurricane Relief efforts, including his effective Fact Checking of Elon Musk. Okay, everyone. So this is one of those weeks that really seemed to remind us in pretty stark terms what is at stake in this election. I mean, just take Tuesday NightsVice President ial debate. In that moment, at the very end when everyone watching was definitely reminded that this election is anything but normal. Did he lose the 2020 election . Tim, i focused on the future. Kamala Harris Sensor americans is eking their mind in the wake of the 2020 covid situation . That is a damning nonanswer. The republican nominee for Vice President of the united states wouldnt even say who won the last election. That was only tuesday. And then on wednesday, and you filing from Jack Smith was on the old, painting and even more vivid picture of this team to overturn the election. And then on thursday, lifelong republican and former congresswoman Liz Cheney reminded the american people why all of this matters. Donald trump was willing to sacrifice our capital to allow Law Enforcement officers to be beaten and brutalized in his name, and to violate the law in the constitution in order to seize power for himself. I dont care if you are a democrat or a republican or an independent. That is depravity, and we must never become numb to it. So yeah. Everything that happened this week was a reminder of the huge, giant, and or mistakes, whatever adjective you want to use, of this election. And it didnt even stop there. Trump returned to butler, pennsylvania, which is the same site as the Facts Assassination Attempt against him in july. I think we can all acknowledge that was a terrible moment this summer. No one should be targeted. Trump to begin that rally by commemorating the man was killed and others were injured that day. He very quickly reverted back to his typical self, playing the victim card, and casting himself as a martyr. Over the past eight years, those who want to drop us from achieving this future have slandered me, impeached me, indicted me, tried to throw me off the ballot. And who knows maybe even try to kill me. I mean, that is a completely crazy statement. All of it. And it could not be further from the truth. No, his political opponents did not try to kill him. Lets not pretend like his impeachments and indictments were taught about by anything but his other actions. Four years after his loss, he is still clinging to this lie that he won the last election. Many leading republicans want to ignore this and pretend its not an issue. They want to move on. Scott walker said this week, voters are long over January 6, and the congressman basically said this is something that only the media cares about. And Heres House SpeakerMike Johnson adjusted earlier this morning. And you say unequivocally that Joe Biden won the 2020 electiOn And Donald Trump lost . This is a game that is always played by Mainstream Media and republicans. Its a gotcha game. You want us to litigate things that happened four years ago and we are talking about the teacher. Is a gotcha game. Its only media obsession. Over here, we are focused on the future. Thats is trying to say. Its also not a hard question, by the way. For anyone out there wondering why we are still talking about this, it is in large part because their guy, Donald Trump, wont shut up about it. In fact, its the entire reason hes running. Ill just take my word for it. Take his. Heres trump just four days ago. You have to tell Kamala Harris thats why im doing it again. If i thought i lost, i wouldnt be doing this again. If i thought i lost, i wouldnt be doing this again. There we go. There it is. Now, the issue for all of us as a country is that this is not only a them problem. It is very much a now problem. Donald trump is leading efforts to steal this upcoming election, too. Right now, republicans are firing a flurry of dangerous but election lawsuits in Swing States across the country, like in georgia, or the third largest county in pennsylvania were there trying to force officials to count ballots by hand, or in other states where they are continuing to push false claims about nonlistens voting, or in all of the places they are trying to work and delay or even block the certification of Election Results. We are 30 days out even from the election. These are pages out of the very same playbook We Saw in 2020, but this time, theyve had some practice. So i know trumps allies like to say they are focused on the future. Well, all of this is the future. We saw on January 6, when Liz Cheney is warning against, this is of the past. Its actually the plan. Harry dunn is a former Capital Police Officer who protected the capital on January 6th. Michael cohen is Donald Trumps former attorney. Is also the host of the Michael Cohen show on youtube as well as a Mea Culpa and political beat down podcasts, and few people have a better understanding of what trump is capable of than these two. Im going to start with you, because you were here with me on sat. I just wanted to get your reaction. I played a cop of trip, he is basically painting himself as the martyr, as somebody who everybody is going after. What do you make of that, and what is your reaction to that . Like you acknowledged, the Assassination Attempt that happened, it should be taken lightly and shouldnt be wasted. It is repulsive. You see how easy it is . Everybody should say that. If you noticed during that little clip that you just showed, every stadium was me, me, me. Not us, not the country. Its all about Donald Trump. And thats why the republican that you just showed, Mike Johnson, Jd Vance during the debate, were unable to say that he lost the election because that is the Litmus Test for Donald Trump. Can you say that you support me no matter what, unequivocally, loyalty to me . And thats very dangerous. Loyalty to one man instead of the constitution. No question. Im sure you watch that rally or parts of that rally. What was your reaction to it . It was exactly as all of the other rallies. I mean, butler was no different than the one he did but for in that gymnasium. As always, as harry just that appropriately and accurately, its all about me, me, me. Hes not running to do anything for the country. Hes running in order to protect himself. Hes already sitting with a 90 million Dollar Judgment for a 500 Million judgment with the network attorney general. He is sitting with 34 criminal guilty counts by the Manhattan District attorney, and four remaining indictments. Three, and then the superseding. He is only running to protect himself. And i dont understand why people just dont see what is so obvious, is so glaring in front of everybodys face. But they want to ignore it. Why . I think i am as confused about that as everybody else. Hopefully we are reminding people of what is at stake. I want to ask you about the Security Piece here, because you know, there is, there are many indications here that Donald Trump is planning exactly the same things he has planned before, questioning the outcome, fee collectors, lawsuits everywhere, President Biden was asked this week when he went to the Briefing Room about this. I think this is important, not just because well, because he is a sitting president , really. He has access to briefings. It would be thinking about Security Threats right now, lets play that. I want to get your thoughts on it. Im confident it will be free and fair. I dont know whether it will be peaceful. So i am concerned about what they are going to do. Is a pretty remarkable thing for any president to say. I am not sure if it will be peaceful. Yeah, absolutely. Because it was peaceful for the entire history of america until it wasnt because of Donald Trump. Donald trump said the president you mentioned the lawsuits out there. I got to acknowledge Mark Elias and the work they are doing trying to save democracy in the courtroom and the legal ways, so its deftly very important that Donald Trump when he debated Joe Biden, he was asked three times, would he be able to accept the Election Results . And he could not answer that straightforward. He was unable to, and thats what he did leading up to January 6th. He planted the seeds of doubt, that is what hes doing now. When Joe Biden said it may not be peaceful, its unprecedented for him to say that, but its also a reality because We Saw what happened on januarys were Police Officers were beaten. They were there because of a lie. While they were attacking Police Officers, they said we are here because Donald Trump sent us and we are here to stop the steal. The violence that occurred that day was based off of a lie. And you know, congress, i appreciate the work they did with the electoral college reform pack. They have done things, but they cant. So when Joe Biden said, you know, it will be free and fair, but will he be peaceful . That has yet to be seen. Also just what we are seeing with our own eyes here is a reminder. And michael, i want to ask you, there are a number of republicans out there who are saying, lets move on. January 6th is in the past. I am struck by the fact that Donald Trump is essentially running on this, right . He has made clear that he wants to replicate some of the things that happened in 2020. What you make of all of these efforts by republicans to say its in the past, it doesnt matter. Is there any reason to doubt he wants to repeat a number of them . Look, thats a pretty interesting question. First and foremost, let me say that the republicans that are demonstrating their fealty to donald have something that they want as a result, if, god forbid, trump ends up winning the election. But there are also a slew of republicans that are not asking for the same thing, that they do not want to just put this thing in the past. That they want to see the united states, they want to see unity in the united states, and start getting rid of the chaos and the divisiveness so that we can all work together for, you know, mutual benefits. This is this is very different than what Donald Trump is saying. Donald trump continues with that bombastic, with the rhetoric of divisiveness and hate, and the big warning that i want people to understand is, when Donald Trump says something, stop same washing it. Stop trying to make it into something which has some normalcy to it. What he says he intends to do and what he turns around and says to, you know, the head of this network or other people who are critics, that he intends to use, Seal Team Six or the military, with which to roundup his critics or his opponents, he intends to do it. And i say that with firsthand experience. What Donald Trump, bill barr, the bureau of prisons did to me, the unconstitutional remand of the united states citizen, making me the first political prisoner in this country to be held by my own country because i wouldnt wave my first amendment constitutional right, what that was for trump, if you want to use a tim Walz Sort of comment, that was a practice play. Now that he knows exactly how to get away with it, i suspect that theres going to be many, many more people that will be incarcerated at simply donalds whim, and simply because he deems them to be a critic. He knows more now. I think thats one of the things i thought about a lot. Is also surrounded himself with a Running Mate that is willing to implement a speaker of the house. Harry dunn, Michael Cohen. Thank you so much. And Coming Up, Jack Smith shows us his cards, and the details are damning for Donald Trump. They are Coming Up after a very quick break. Quick break. Lakesha Childhood Cancer is its a long road. Its hard. But st. Jude has gotten us through it. St. Jude is hope that you have a chance at life. And it goes such a long way for every child diagnosed with cancer because the research is being shared all over the world. Its awesome. [music playing] lukes mom without easterseals, my luke would be a very different luke. Look up. Where you going . 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By about 1 30 on the afternoon of January 6, Donald Trump was alone in the white House Dining RoomScrolling Twitter and watching fox news. Here is just a little taste of what he saw in real time. Why did you come here . Because President Trump told us we had something big to forward to, and i believed that Vice President pence went to certify the electoral votes, and or not certify them, i guess thats just changed, correct. And its a very big disappointment. I think the several hundred thousand people here that are very disappointed, but i still believe resident trump has something else in store. That sounds like several attempts supporters were waiting marching orders. It was just moments later that trump added fuel to the fire, saying he didnt have the courage to do what had been done. All of that is detailed in any special Counsel Filing released by a judge this week which says, when he learned he was at risk, he allegedly responded, so what . Joining me now is our inhouse law firm, the forming and Andrew Wiseman as a former General Counsel at the fbi. Two favorites of msnbc. Family members who love to hear and understand legal stuff. Andrew, going to start with you. Because a lot of the evidence against trump, as you read this, what are your main takeaways from this brief . Well, it is true that there is a broad picture that we knew, and the level of detail, the sort of minute by minute, almost keystroke by keystroke details were really devastating, and that is how prosecutors typically put together a case. You have witnesses and hard evidence to Text And Television records, and what exactly a person is doing. And was documented to corroborate all of that. For instance, in January 6th, the image of the President Sort of just being sort of Deer Elect in duty, which is true, is giving a lot more amplification that he was doing things, that he was seeing the violence on tv, and then reacting. He was causing people to call in congress to take action, he was sending out his famous tweet about Pence Provoking violence. So you just get a much more granular, detailed description because of the tools federal prosecutors have that were not available to people on the heel of the January 6 investigation. As a nonlawyer, it was such an interesting level of detail were you kind of reconstruct the day. So that texture that andrew mentioned, that the forensic details that were outlined on this report, why is that important to the process, and how would it be used moving forward by Jack Smith team . So the supreme court in june this year said that basically, when trump asked him in his official capacity, he is immune. But if he acts in his personal capacity, he is not. What this entire filing by Jack Smith is designed to say is, look. Trump, everything he did that day basically, he was the political and vice versa, there was no there was no independent official act. Run as a candidate or take his positiOn As a candidate. And not acting as the president. So for example, andrew talked about how there was this dear election of duty on January 6th, but at the same time, trump is tweeting Things Twopence and the like. The most important point in the Jack Smith filing is that one of his aides came in and said to him, hey, trump hey, pence is under attack. Trumps response is, so what. That paints the picture of someone on January 6th is not protecting the country, who is out for his own personal ends, and that is why trump is trying to distract from this filing and say, im looking forward and the like. Its not surprising hes looking forward. Jack smith just showed 77 potential witnesses and statements that are going to be used against trump at his criminal trial. No surprise at all. I want to ask you about this claim that i guess its not a surprise. They are claiming the release of the filing violates the informal 60 day quiet period before an election. That is been debunked and refuted, but since you were here, explain why. As we like to say, that takes enormous chutzpah to make that claim. This is a case that should have, by all rights, already gone to trial, where the defendants, Donald Trump, would have had his day in court, and the public would have seen the evidence, and the verdict for whatever it is, is what the jury would have determined. This was slow rolled as a result of Donald Trumps actions. So to sit there now and say, i am appalled that evidence has come out about a case that is been indicted is really sort of beyond the pale. The 60 day rule, just specifically to answer your question, jen, does not apply to indicted cases. It is about doing things like what James Comey did, which is smearing somebody who has not been charged and never was charged by saying that there is a criminal investigation when the person has no ability to defend themselves at that point. Here, Donald Trump has had ample opportunity and still can if he thinks there is anything factually wrong in the Jack Smith submission. He is free to file something, and notably, he is said i am not going to file something until after the election. What does that tell you about his ability to actually counter the fact that have been put forth by Jack Smith . Tells you a lot. Okay, neil. The other thing ive been wondering is obviously what comes next. The election is 30 days away. Trump lawyers asked for a five Week Delay to respond with a similar oversized brief, although they only partly granted that request as i read it, giving them until november 7th, two days after the election to respond. Is this more Delay Tactics . What are the kind of scrambling on behind the scenes right now in your assessment . All Delay Tactics, trumps whole plan has unfortunately been successful in delaying resolution to this criminal case past of the election. Heres what i think really matters, and We Saw it in the Vice President ial debate. You saw the Vice President ial candidate say, basically, that he couldnt admit that Donald Trump lost the election. So when Jd Vance did that, and he is trumps number two person, and he cant stand up to trump, that tells you all you need to know. The most important thing you do as a president is surround yourself with people who act as a Check And Balance against you. All successful president s, all of them, did that. I contrast, what trump has done is surround himself with a person who is a 100 lackey. And trump is telling you the playbook now, which is, whether they win or lose, they are going to claim they won, they are going to have a Vice President who is going to accept that, go and pressure state legislatures, going Pressure Governors to try to throw out the votes in these various places if they cant admit the 2020 was a loss for them. What makes you think 2024 is any different . Thats why this Discussion Matter so much. Thats why what Jack Smith did in that filing, explaining to the american people that detail that andrew mentioned, that is why it is all important. No questiOn About it. Its very much a now that we are all navigating. Thank you both so much. Really appreciate you joining me. Coming up, a conversation with Transportation Secretary Pete to judge after a very busy week with him. Trump lying about the Hurricane Response just to demonize migrants. Ive got some thoughts about that when we come back. Back. Citis industry leading global payments solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries. And help a partner like the World Food Programme as they provide more than food to people in need. Together, citi and the World Food Programme empower families across the globe. Our right to reproductive Health Care is being stolen from us. 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These people are all over the place and they are killing people. I can go through the stories, but i wont. They come up, they grab young girls, and they sliced them up right in front of their parents. Trump and his allies have pushed the narrative to incredibly frightening new narratives, its become basically the solution to every issue this country faces compared to them. Crime, housing, jobs, election security, whatever the problem, trouble finding a way to blame immigrants. And this week, we got another egregious example of that strategy. As trump lied about the efforts to help those impacted by Hurricane Helene. They stole the Fema Money just like they stole it from the bank, so they can give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them this season. This is maybe the worst Hurricane Weve ever had. And hes got no money. We said, what happened all the money. They were given billions for this. He spent it on illegal migrants coming into the country. A big percentage of which are murderers. First of all, that is absolutely not true. Funds are not being stolen, communities are not being ignored. Fema and the biden administratiOn Are not choosing migrants over disaster victims. Trump is purposely conflating two entirely different programs funded by two completely different sources. So lets be very clear about what is happening here. Trump is trying to exploit the victims of a Natural Disaster to demonize migrants. Even as officials on the ground, including many republicans, begging people to stop pushing disinformation. A republican State Senator in North Carolina posted to his facebook page, you all stop this Conspiracy Junk that is floating all over . It is just a distraction to people trying to do their job. The republican mayor of knox county, tennessee, posted, quote, please quit spreading rumors as they are counterproductive to response efforts. Thom tillis had this to say about the federal response. This is the new playbook for anybody who thinks that any level of Government Or Anybody here could have been prepared precisely for what we are dealing with here clearly are clueless. They are doing a great job. Throwing any Natural Disaster, the goal is for leaders to work together in good faith to help their communities, and that is basically what the senator just said is happening. Donald trump, though, is not one of those people. Trump is focused on ejecting lies and confusion, lies about the federal government and lies about migrants who have nothing to do with the situation, and what is so concerning is how easily those lies have read in a deadly, Natural Disaster. We are now just 30 days out from an election, and if the Reality Distortion Field from trump and his allies seems bad now, buckle up everyone for this time next month. My conversation with Transportation Secretary Pete buttegeig is up next. We are back after a very quick break. Break. 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He helped to end the historic strike by the international Longshoremens Association after just three days, which is very fast, by the way, he is assisting in the Emergency Response to Hurricane Helene, which has destroyed critical infrastructure and left people stranded in isolated areas. That job, as i was just talking about, has been made more difficult by a swarm of maga magnified Information And Waste very valuable resources. Joining me now is Secretary Of Transportation people to judge. It is so great to see you, and i know you have had quite a week, so i appreciate you being here to talk to us about everything you been working on. I know theyre going to talk about the strike, but i want to start with the hurricane and the aftermath of Hurricane Helene, because you have also played a role in laying with that. The Washington Post reports that rumors and Conspiracy Theories have already prompted unnecessary evacuations, and some of these falsehoods have been viewed millions of times on social media. Thats just some of the reporting. Thats in local papers as well about how damaging this has been. You and your department have been so involved. How damaging has the misinformation been and what impact are they seeing in terms of the recovery and people who are trying to find love ones and get accurate information. You can have a real cost for people in the ground to our already dealing with so much, and its right up there with making sure that people have access to transportation, making sure they have their power back on, making sure communications come back. The other part of that is making sure you get good, accurate, and useful information. Unfortunately, that is become in many ways more difficult in the current digital information environment. Its become more important than ever to have trusted and reliable sources. We have worked to make sure that informatiOn Against users is good, for example, state 511 systems, and they set up a routing assistance hotline. You could call and get our data about where a road might actually be open and available or out of service where a bridge was taken out. But you look at whats going on online, a lot of it seems to be driven by politics, and i hope that is actively harming and disrupting the process of getting back to normal for so many people whose lives were upended by this awful storm. And the recovery is still continuing. Very information for people to know out there. Im sure a lot of people saw this. He actually personally pushed back about some informatiOn About Hurricane Relief in an exchange with Elon Musk about all people on twitter. Basically telling him that he can call you if he was confused. It didnt seem to work, because he publicly thanked you and said you are on the ball, which is not something he typically says. If you just take your word for it online . He took me up on that, he called and had a conversation. Was actually happening is the faa was not closing down any errors race, there was an issue with pilot who were helping to get starling equipment to where it needed to be, having the right information. We worked that would local authorities, and we were able to take care of it. I think to me, is an example about how often the best thing to do is to pick up the phone. I do want to get too much into the weeds, since there has been some confusiOn About the faas temporary flight restrictions, i should explain how it works. This is a process that has been in place for decades. What happens is, if you have a disaster area, a lot of Rescue Operations going on, a local Airport Or Fire department or the coast guard, somebody like that, can request what is called a tfr. It doesnt shut down the airspace, but it increases the level of coordination that goes on, as you want to make sure that that airspace is safe and you prevent the risk of collisions. So when you hear that term, that is what is going on. I dont me to get that technical, ive been amazed at how a little curl of some detail gets blown up on the internet into something that it is not. And so what ive seen going On Around with the faa does to coordinate facilitate rescue flights, including a lot of good samaritans were out there as civilians helping because they are pilot licenses, and that is a great thing. Its just important that they coordinate. No question. Sometimes the details are essential to making sure people have accurate information. If this had not been resolved and i mentioned this, that it was resolved very quickly, and people should understand that. It would have had a huge impact on the economy. I dont know that everybody understands the depth of the crisis that was averted. What wouldve happened . We all thought about this internally. What wouldve happened had the strike continued for weeks or even months . Yeah, this was a major, major concern for transportation stems. I think if it were not for the fact that there was so much going on the same week, it would have been the number one thing On Americans minds. And it has cost some issues that the ports and Supply Chains are working their way through, but they would be able to catch up. Theres a big difference between a short stoppage in a long stoppage, and in about three days, there was a deal where the parties agreed to higher wages for these dockworkers who were very, very deserving. You got to understand, these are folks who come to work and really tough conditions. They didnt get much of a raise under the last contract. Any of them are going to work during the toughest days in covid. Dozens of them lost their lives, and they are trying to participate in the enormous profitability that the Shipping Sector has experienced in recent years. What happened was an agreement to get back to work and an agreement provisionally on increased wages, and theyre going to get back to the Table And Work through other things, like what to do about technology and some issues about other paid royalties and benefits that go along with their work. But the Bottom Line is, we really count on our ports. We experience this with a lot of issues on the West Coast ports in 2021. We were able to work through those, so they had Record Throughput by The End of that year. But you could really feel the pinch. In order to make sure our economy is running smoothly, theres just no substitute for having all of our freight systems, whether we are talking about trains, talking about ports, highways and bridges, we need all of them up and running, and im very glad they are back up and running as of today. Thank you so much for joining us On A very, very busy week. Thinks for having me in. Coming up, one of my next guest went viral giving Jd Vance a Civics Lesson after tuesdays debate. Hokum University StudentMarcus Johnson and democratic Party Chair Lenora burns are standing by. We will be right back. Back. Sleep better. Live purple. Right now buy more, save more. Up to 600 off. Visit purple. Com or a store near you whoa howd you get your teeth so white . You gotta use the right toothpaste dr. C . not all toothpastes whiten the same. Crest 3d white removes 100 more stains for a noticeably whiter smile. New personal best. Crest. man mm, hey, honey. Looks like my Todo List grew. 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Theres no obligation, and youll receive a free Beneficiary Planner just for calling. Like most Vice President ial debates, the country is pretty quickly moved on, and it is unlikely that what happened Tuesday Night is going to change massively the outcome of the election. But there was one Breakout MomentTuesday Night that i, like a lot of you, loved and still cant stop thinking about. The Vice President being in office for all these years and not being able to make the change was the allegation from Jd Vance. He said to me, ive been a High School civics class. Why did you say that . Because of anybody took High School civics class, they know what the Vice President can do and what the Vice President cant do. Neither candidate on that stage talked about what Executive Action they are going to take on day want to do what they want. Nor were they asked, because they know that they cant. Thats not how the Vice Presidency works. You dont get to do what you want. You do with the president delegates you to do. I was 20yearold Marcus Johnson, a student at Oakland UniversityIn Rochester michigan. It was a superb fact check, but more than that, it was a good reminder that younger voters are paying closer attentiOn And they often get credit for, and they may be very key in deciding who wins in november. Me now is Marcus Johnson along with michigan democratic Party Chair Lenora barnes. I have been most excited about talking to the two of you. Marcus, i think dying to ask you first of all, you are a great fact checker, and you gave a great Civics Lesson there. You are a 20yearold college student. What has this week been like for you . I would be lying if i said it had not been the most interesting week of my life. I believe it was just the other day, actually, when i did my interview with julie reed, i sent a clip of it in an email to one of my professors, and i didnt know that she forwarded it to a bunch of faculty members. So after i got out of class, i found out from another student that their professor showed it in class. Whether people always Coming Up, its very interesting and very fun, i have to say. This would have to be more fact checks. He got 30 days left. You need some material. I watch people like marcus, Elvis He worked in politics for more than 20 years, and its an incredibly inspiring in my veins. I loved it. But its a reminder how young people like him are in this election. What do you wish people in michigan, young people who might say, i vote doesnt matter. Im not excited about this. What do you wish they would know about the stakes of this election. Heres the thing that marcus needs to know, that you can get the information. There are ways to do your research and learn who these candidates are. Fact checked on the Way Marcus did. Its a shame that someone who has been in elected office and wants to be fact checked by a very intelligent, very well educated michigan student. Thank you marcus for doing it. I think a lot of our students are like marcus. Theyre going to let people talk and say what they want to say. And then share the fact with their friends. I love that all the universities have these facts coming from marcus and were seeing it all over the country. This is what is important about having these fact checks, and young folks who articulate and smart and not afraid to speak up. I think all of our michigan students should just get on the internet Tell The Truth and remind people what is at stake in this electiOn And why they need to show up and help Kamala Harris win. No question. So marcus, you are here with a very powerful, very well respected chair of the michigan Democratic Party. She is very good at her job. What you want her to know about whats on the minds of young voters, that you might not be seen talked about out there . That we are paying attention. People might think, oh, the young folks, they just do this and that and they dont care. When we do actually pay attention. And there are plenty of us who, politics has been such a thing drilled into them their whole lives, and they tend to be disillusioned with things. With everything that is been happening lately, its one of those things where we dont get much of a choice but to pay attention. So if you ever hear that the young folks dont care enough, i promise you we most certainly do. That is a very good, good message an effective message to hear. Marcus, i know on tuesday after i saw you in the moment, i was like, someone should give this guy a job. You are still in college. You got to finish college. I still believe that very much. Lenora, you hired a lot of people. You give great advice. Obviously, marcus is ready to be a paid Senior Adviser yet, someone like him who is engaged, do you have any advice or thoughts for him . I have so much advice, but i will start with this. We have a great group of folks we call fellows who work for the michigan Democratic Party and do a lot of what you just did. They spend time on the internet talking to their friends and their neighbors and their colleagues on campuses and High Schools all over. We would love to have you join us. We would love to have you be a michigan democratic Party Fellow to help spread the word, and see if you eventually want to be a Campaign Manager or campaign adviser. Its how i started as a young democrat, they kept going for right there. So come join us. We will get you started and see if Theres Something you want to do. Thats is very exciting. Marcus, what you think about that . This is the first time ever had somebody tried to give me a job, so im going to thank you for that one. Thats deftly something im going to look into now. Right after this, what ago do some homework, and after that, i will look into it, most definitely. Weve got jobs posted on the website. 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