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Good morning. 11 00 a. M. Eastern, 8 00 a. M. Pacific. Im Jose Diazbalart. We begin this hour with breaking news, a brandnew Jobs Report beating expectations. The government reporting employers added 254,000 jobs in september, thats well above the 150,000 predicted by most economists. The Unemployment Rate fell slightly to 4. 1 . And when you break it down by race, both the black and hispanic Unemployment Rates fell by. 4 last month. There you see the drop. This report comes hours after Port Workers and Port Operators along the East And Gulf coasts reached a tentative deal to end a strike that began on tuesday. That walkout threatened to bring chaos at the start of the holiday shopping season. With us now, cnbcs dominic chu. Dom, good morning. This was a strong Jobs Report. What else did we learn from it . Good morning, jose. Yes, it stands in stark contrast, this Jobs Report, what we saw the previous month, which got read as a very big at least disappointment. What we did note beyond just the Headline Numbers that you pointed out for unemployment and the jobs created, both, by the way, like you point out very positive, we also add to that some of the Wage Data that came in. Better than expected on a month over month basis. Those average hourly earnings up. 4 , a month over month gain. Also, a year over Year Gain of 4 . That data suggests that the american economy at least for now remains relatively resilient and is holding up well, given some of the signs over the last several months of a bit of a cooling in that labor market dynamic. Now, the months of july and august also saw their numbers revised actually higher by a combined 72,000 jobs. As for where the jobs are, the biggest additions were in places like hospitality and leisure, also healthcare, social Assistance And Government hiring. This report is also getting a lot of scrutiny from traders and investors who are using it to handicap the odds of the federal reserves next interest Rate Move, which comes in november. And then again another Rate Move in december. This stronger report has now showed that there are dampened expectations for bigger Interest Rate cuts at the next couple of meetings. Jose, there is now more of an expectation for measured and smaller Quarter Percentage cuts going forward as opposed to that bigger Half Percentage Point cut we saw last september. The tentative deal to end the port strike. Sure, thats right. Tentative is the key word there. These dockworkers across the Eastern Seaboard and the Gulf Coast regions are out now back to work after a strike that lasted for three days. But there is still a lot of stuff to hammer out for a fullfledged Employment Deal to get approved by Union Leaders and ultimately approved by the workers themselves. The big hurdle that was overcome overnight came to pay. Leaders at the international Longshoremens Association and the United States Maritime Alliance agreed to an ultimate Pay Raise of 61. 1 that will be phased in over the course of six years under this agreement. But the bigger issue to a longer Term Contract is going to center around the role of automation in the industry over the next several years. How much automation will replace human workloads, and then what the timeline is for implementation of those automation measures. Those are likely key issues that are still under negotiation. But in order to work towards that bigger deal, leaders on both sides of the Negotiating Table have agreed to extend their current Labor Deal until january 15th, jose, so thats why tentative and not fully done just yet. Dominic chu, thank you so very much. Appreciate it. We are just 32 days away from the election and the race between Vice President harris and former President Trump is still very tight. Today, both Trump And Harris will be in key battleground states. Vice president harris will hold a rally in michigan. Trump will visit georgia and North Carolina and tomorrow, trump will return to butler, pennsylvania, the site of the first Assassination Attempt on his life. All of this, One Day after Vice President Harris Campaigned with former congresswoman Liz Cheney. Former republican congresswoman Liz Cheney in the Wisconsin Town where the Republican Party was born. I tell you, i have never voted for a democrat. But this year i am proudly casting my vote for Vice President kamala harris. What January 6th shows us is that there is not an ounce, not an ounce of compassion in Donald Trump, he is petty, he is vindictive, and he is cruel. And Donald Trump is not fit to lead this good and great nation. With us now, nbc News Correspondent Dasha Burns in butler, pennsylvania, matthew dowd, senior msnbc political analyst, and juanita tolliver, msnbc political Analyst And Author of the upcoming book a more perfect party. Dasha, you were at trumps event in butler in july when those shots rang out. I remember that it was just right before the beginning of nbc nightly News And Everything happened in real time. What is the symbolism behind Donald Trump returning to butler . Reporter well, look, jose, the Trump Campaign wants to make this a significant moment for the former president , and for this community. So many people impacted here, so many of those rallygoers impacted. The list of speakers is long and it includes first responders, it includes the family of Corey Comperatore who was shot, this is something that is a bit of catharsis, a bit of a Healing Process for the people who were here. I interviewed several of the rallygoers right in the aftermath of that event and i went back and spoke with some of them including a mother and son, donna and joe, theyre planning to come back here tomorrow. I asked them why. Take a listen. Why are you going back . Im going back for a few reasons. Number one, joe, joey wants to go. Im going back for that, number one. Number two, i believe in President Trump. I believe in this country. I believe this is our last chance. Just to get to prove to people they Cant Scare us, get to shove it to them. Youre not going to scare us away from the ballots. Not going to scare us away from the rally. Reporter jose, there are also some big names attending this rally, Elon Musk tweeted earlier this morning that hes planning to be there. And i will tell you the Security Posture could not be more different from the last time that we were here. The entire area is locked down, you cant get anywhere near the rally site. We were chatting with some of the Merchandise Vendors behind me, they said last time they were here, they were able to roam the site pretty freely, check out where everything was getting set up. Now security is turning people away, there are line of site blockades, Shipping Containers and other big items that are blocking line of site from outside of the rally and, of course, the Security Posture, Secret Service, Pennsylvania State police, local Law Enforcement, emergency management, all of that out in full force here, jose. Dasha, you are an extraordinary journalist, but i want to ask you, on a personal note, what are you thinking . Reporter thank you for asking, jose. I weighed the decision whether or not i wanted to come here, to be honest with you, because it is something that i didnt expect, i didnt expect to have the reaction that i had to this, it was a challenge in the days and weeks afterwards and it does feel a little strange to be back here. There is an unsettled feeling, but at the same time, you know, donna told me that the the woman you heard from there, she did Trauma Therapy afterwards, i did too and her therapist told her this was a step in that Healing Process and i think i feel really similarly that, you know, coming back here and being with the people who experienced this, my fellow journalists and crews, and the rallygoers, i mean, everyone went through this together in such a and to be back and to speak to some of the people again, and all check in on each other, see where were at, see how were coping, thats been really important, jose. Dasha burns, extraordinary journalist, extraordinary human being. Thank you very much, dasha. Matthew, the Assassination Attempt in butler was a big moment in the campaign. What will returning to Butler Mean for the Trump Campaign . I mean, my perception of this from a Campaign Standpoint is i dont think it is going to have any movement or any persuasion on voters. I think to me this is much more about Donald Trump and what hes going through and what he the part he wants to play in this that has to do with voters. Im actually surprised theyre going back again to here. To me, as i say, it is much more about, i guess, Donald Trump personally and what he wants to experience as opposed to what i think going to impact voters around pennsylvania or in any of the seven target states. Lets talk about Liz Cheney was with the Vice President , her rally in wisconsin Last Night. President biden praised cheney saying it took courage to do what she did. How unusual is this . It is highly highly unusual, and historic moment. To me, ive made it akin to if Barry Goldwater 1964 who ran against lbj, a conservative, started the conservative movement, ran and lost, if after the election he said im ready to Support Lbj and serve in his cabinet, it would be the same magnitude as this. She is a diehard red conservative, who stood the line on conservatives, her and her family for decades in this, and for her to endorse a senator, a former senator from california, who served under Joe Biden as Vice President , is historic. And to me, the impact it will have is two fold. One, i think it sends a signal to the independent voters that Vice President can be bipartisan, will approach this and welcome in all people of political persuasions. And, two, soft republicans who dont feel like they can make a leap to vote for Vice President harris, i think Liz Cheney sends a signal that says, if you Cant Vote for harris, which she says she wants them to, just go ahead and skip and dont vote for the president ial race, which could have more impact than the persuasion of independent voters. Interesting. Just your thoughts on this, Dick Cheney with former Vice President Mike Pence got applause when their names were mentioned Last Night. Is is there any cost for democrats to be bringing in the Cheney Family . I feel like the cost is outweighed by the potential reward here, jose, because this is something that is an extension of what we saw in the democratic Convention Stage where plenty of republicans were invited to speak, and kind of present this on ramp for disaffected republicans and independent voters to supporting Vice President harris. But something that matt mentioned about the historic significance of this is also tied to the historic threat that these individuals collectively view in Donald Trump. One other scenario, what we see headlines of Vice President harris on stage, with Liz Cheney, and then next week on stage with former president Barack Obama, except for in this sense of a need to build the coalition, to keep Donald Trump out of the oval office, i think it comes down to the main themes that were stated on stage in wisconsin yesterday, about both Liz Cheney and Vice President harris, that this is about preserving and protecting the constitution. This is about preserving and protecting our democracy. And thats a message that appeals to republicans, independents and democrats, so that they can align in november. And, former President Obama is set to campaign for Vice President harris starting in pennsylvania next week. We also saw Bruce Springsteen endorsing harris yesterday. How much do the endorsements help the Harris Campaign and there is a big difference between celebrities and Barack Obama, hes a celebrity, but the weight he carries is still one of the most popular if not the most popular democrat in the nation, right . So i think that having him out on the campaign trail, getting the endorsement from Bruce Springsteen, this is critical. Now it is about getting people to return those absentee ballots, mail in their ballots, Finish Voter Registration as Deadlines Approach and get to the polls in november. So these endorsements are absolutely going to be part of that mobilization. Remember, Barack Obama not only is he popular, but hes One Of The Best dynamic orators in politics. Having that voice on the campaign trail, that familiar voice, that will bring up a lot of nostalgia and good feeling, not only for democrats, but some independents. I think thats going to be really help buttress the coalition that Vice President harris is developing. Matthew dowd and juanita tolliver, thank you very much. Well take you to the horrific devastation left behind by Hurricane Helene as officials rely on helicopters, atvs, boats, even mules to reach communities in dire need of critical help. Plus, new israeli attacks on hezbollah leaders who israel says were hidden under ground. We go live to the Middle East. And later, as Donald Trump prepares to visit the site of his first Assassination Attempt, well get an update on the ongoing issues facing the Secret Service. Were back in 90 seconds. Youre watching Jose Diazbalart reports on msnbc. 9s Shopifys Point of Sale System helps you sell at every stage of your business. With fast and secure payment. Card readers you can rely on. And one place to manage it all. Whatever the stage, businesses that grow grow with shopify. man these men of means with their silver spoons. What will become of them when they discover robinhood gold allows others to earn their very liberal rates on idle cash. 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All of the Power Outages across the southeast, the day after helene hit. And were learning more, more stories of the people impacted, one woman in tennessee told Nbc News that she watched her husband, her dog and her house get swept away by the floodwaters. It is traumatic. I just never thought it would happen to me. One minute im baking cookies, the next minute im fighting for my life and my whole life has been turned upside down. Joining us now, nbcs Morgan Chesky from bristol, tennessee. What is happening where you are . Reporter jose, were in bristol motor speedway. The scale of the damage is being matched in the scale of this massive Release Effort here. This is a portion of the Race Way Campus taken over by the Northeast Tennessee Disaster Relief Center. Ill step out of the way. You get a sense of some of the goods pouring into this area right now. Theyre sorted by product. We have all the necessities in the far background, you see pallet upon pallet of water and then paper goods, food, anything people will need in the next few days. Off to my left, what you cant see is that all of these goods are being split up by county. This Relief Center services a Ninecounty Area of tennessee. Some of those spots incredibly rural. We had a chance to join the national guard yesterday, jose, On Board One of the blackhawks and they were reaching areas that were cut off because roads and bridges had been washed away. We landed in the community of Elk Mills, tennessee, one of the first reporters to see the extensive damage there, jose. And we spoke to one woman, becky vines, hear what she had to say about what the past few days and the storm has been like. Take a listen. It is heart breaking. There used to be a Fire Hall right there where the helicopter is sitting. And it washed away. With the tanker truck. It is devastating. It is amazing that they will come together like that to help this small town, this small community. Everybody that has been impacted by this flood. Reporter miss vines grew emotional when she saw all the goods offloaded from the blackhawk into the hands of her neighbors because she knows that buys them a few more days until they need to get the next shipment, whether it be by helicopter or by truck. Two bridges Washed Out by Elk Mills and you can see just some of the debris and the damage still piled up in that area. Stunning to hear about, jose, even more so when youre standing and witnessing it in real time. And morgan, we have been following the investigation and the workers and the Plastics Factory who died or went missing in the floodwaters. Their families held a vigil Last Night . Thats right. Were in carter county, that took place in neighboring unicorn county. We know that two different agencies have launched investigations into this plastics company. The Tennessee Bureau of investigation announcing their case is ongoing and osha opening up their own investigation because they claim that this company did not report those deaths within a necessary amount of time that theyre legally obligated to do so. The pushback from these families of those employees that were washed away by the floodwaters growing by the day, saying that had they had a chance to get out before the waters rose, that they would still be alive today. The company only saying they are aware of the investigations, and promise to cooperate. Jose . Morgan chesky, thank you very much. Joining us now, ryan spelman, director of operations at operation air drop, a Relief Organization that sends pilots to deliver supplies to people stranded in isolated areas during natural disasters. Thank you so much for being with us. What are the Relief Efforts looking like for you . Thank you for having us on, jose. It is a two Fold Issue for us right now, the need for supplies, it is huge, it is our primary function to get the necessary survival materials to people in the hardest hit communities. We also branched out into a lot of Search And Rescue operations. Were operating two large bases right now, one obviously here in concord, North Carolina, where i am, and then also where were working with multiple groups including the government to support the mission. It is something very katrinalike is what most of our teams have really expressed in their experiences out there. And so, Katrina Times as far as geographic location, times A Thousand. Absolutely. And with the added issue that we have, mountainous terrain. You look at the topography of louisiana, it is low hands, largely flat lands, so were dealing with that Katrina Level Flooding but also with the significant mountainous terrain, large trees, and that makes it even harder to get to these people because if roads at the bottom are Washed Out, there is no real way to get to the site to begin with to get up to them, which is where the value of the helicopters has been. What do you need . What help do you need and what are you asking for . So, right now our helicopter teams, they really need a lot of first aid medical support. So things like insulin. At this point in the operation, people that have gotten supplies, they have been getting a lot of things like granola bars, things that are rough on the stomach after eating them for a long period of time, things like peptobismol as well. Wasps are a huge issue right now. Theyre coming out because their Ground Caves were Washed Out. Theyre out and attacking people, ointments, and creams for wasps, those are important and epipens. There is always that need, especially when you deal with something this large of scale, all of these elements, all these chemicals, components, creatures that create allergies, theyre all out, the water has washed them up out on to the surface. So youre exposed. Ryan spelman, thank you so much. Thank you for being with us. But more thank you for all you do. Really appreciate it. It is help that is so desperately needed. Were learning right now that the Death Toll from helene is now gone from 215 to 218. Thank you. Thank you. If you would like to help those affected by Hurricane Helene, scan this Qr Code on the screen. Theyll bring you to a list of organizations who are on the ground helping. And if you just permit me for a second [ speaking in a global language ] up next, new Evacuation Warnings from israel and Southern Lebanon as officials weigh an expanded Ground Operation in the region. Were going to take you live to beirut. A mixed verdict for three of the former Memphis Police officers behind the deadly beating of Tyre Nichols. Youre watching Jose Diazbalart reports on msnbc. Youre watching Jose Diazbalart reports on msnbc. Solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries. And help a partner like the World Food Programme as they provide more than food to people in need. Together, citi and the World Food Programme empower families across the globe. At humana, we believe your healthcare should evolve with you, and part of that evolution means choosing the right Medicare Plan for you. Humana can help. 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Backed Buffer Zone ahead of a potential expansion of the Ground Operations there. Joining us now from beirut is nbcs matt bradley, also with us retired lieutenant general ben hodges. Matt, who is this person that israel was targeting in this latest strike . Reporter yeah, it was hashem safieddine. This was an enormous explosion that targeted about 20 top leaders including this leader himself who was venerated throughout the arab and muslim worlds. So hashem safieddine, he didnt necessarily represent such a big departure from Hassan Nasrallah himself. He was a similar character, a similar religious pedigree, he came up in the same way, he came from here in lebanon, from a shiite majority area, he studied in iran, he wasnt more extreme or more moderate, but it is important to note, he hasnt actually been elected as the successor, the israelis picked him off before he could even be elected. Now, he is still a desirable character for hezbollah he was the cousin of Hassan Nasrallah and his son married the daughter last year of Qassem Soleimaniso He was the head of the qods force, part of the irgc that deals with the militant groups backed by iran, and groups in iraq and syria. He had that Connective Tissue like Hassan Nasrallah, connecting hezbollah to iran. Thats very important to a group that still really relies spiritually, financially, ideologically on their benefactors, iran. But now hes gone and that sends a message to all the leaders of hezbollah, No One is safe. Matt bradley in beirut, thank you very much. General, israel carried out a whole series of attacks recently, the exploding pagers, the walkietalkies and killing nasrallah. How damaging has this been to hezbollah . Well, the obvious damage is the loss of so many leaders at multiple levels, not just taking out the very top. But perhaps even more damaging was the loss of hundreds of midlevel sort of leaders that get things done on the ground. But they also psychologically and i thought matt did a good job there, they cannot trust anybody now because clearly they are penetrated as an organization so that the israelis are able to find people, target them the way they have been doing, this will cause people inside hezbollah to not trust their equipment, not trust each other, so the damage to their cohesion and the effectiveness is also significant. Israels military Chief Of Staff said their goal is to destroy hezbollah in all capabilities, and prevent the group from operating in Beirut And Lebanon south and east. Can that organization be destroyed just by killing its members . I think critical part of the destruction of hezbollah, of course, will be going after their benefactor exactly again as matt pointed out. Thats iran. The more that iran itself is pounded, the less likely it is able to the less able it will be to support hezbollah. And also, by the way, the less able it will be to support its only real ally, russia. So, this what is happening in the Middle East is connected, of course, to russias attack on ukraine. Israel, so long as they dont act with too much hubris and they have got to be very careful about excessive civilian casualties, not just in gaza, but also in lebanon. I think they can really change the nature of what is going on in the Middle East. Yeah, i mean, the whole question of what is excessive, you know, civilian deaths when, you know, you had already countless people dying. Im just wondering, what, and to your point about iran, what do you expect to see from iran as the world awaits what the israeli reaction is going to be to Irans Attack on israel this week. Well, this is an important strategic question, not just for israel, but for the entire Middle East and for the united states. Iran, it seems to me, is weaker than we had anticipated. The size they have, the wealth they have and so on. But clearly, they are not able to protect their proxies, hezbollah, or even hamas. Their responses so far, the first attack back at counterstrike in april with a very weak and then the one the other night was more significant, but still not effective. And so i think israelis have called their bluff and the regime itself is not popular there in israel. I suspect 80 to 85 of iranians would be glad to see the regime collapse. So, and i think this is also why the united states, other than specific targeting things, is not really restraining israelis, it appears to me. Lieutenant general ben hodges, thank you very much. A pleasure to see you. Thank you, jose. After the break, well bring you the very latest on the case surrounding the death of Tyre Nichols. 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Turning now to the mixed verdict in the fatal Police Beating of Tyre Nichols in 2023. Three of the Police Officers involved in his death were convicted on federal Witness Tampering charges, but acquitted on the most serious civil rights charges against them. Joining us now, nbc News Correspondent priscilla thompson, david henderson, former prosecutor. Priscilla, what else do we know about this mixed verdict . That verdict came after 19 days of trial, where this jury heard from 28 witnesses. They spent more than six hours deliberating and ultimately this is what they came back with, finding all three of those former officers guilty of Witness Tampering for some of the behavior that happened after this brutal incident, where they gave misleading statements to their supervisors, to paramedics and that kind of thing. But notably only one of those former officers, demetrius haley, was found guilty of engaging in any sort of conduct that led to bodily injury. And that was a lesser charge. That was not the initial charge that prosecutors were going after, but notably, this jury did not find that those other two officers engaged in that behavior, only finding them guilty on the Witness Tampering. But nonetheless, the family walked out of the Courtroom Yesterday saying this was a victory. I want to play a little bit of what his mother had to say. All of them have been convicted of something. And theyre all going to jail. Thats how i feel. I dont this has been a long journey for our family. And im actually in shock right now because i still cant believe all this stuff is going on. But were happy that they all have been convicted and they have been arrested. And those three men were taken into custody yesterday. They are expected to have a full Sentencing Hearing in january, and, of course, attorney Ben Crump who represents the family saying this is the first step of justice, but there is still the State Trial that is ahead. And that is where they are going to be charged with the crime of murder, kidnapping among others. Jose . Thanks. David, all three officers acquitted of these more serious charges, Violating Civil Rights by causing his death, what do you make of that . Ultimately you have to call It Progress. It is impossible to call it justice. The reason i say you have to call It Progress is because in comparable cases, in different jurisdictions, Ronald Green comes to mind first, the black motorist is pulled out of his car by police, beaten to death and there is no Criminal Justice for the officers who did it whatsoever. You have the right to be free from unreasonable force during a Police Stop and what is more unreasonable than beating someone to death . The ultimate gist is the jury is saying, were going to charge you with a crime for covering up what you did, but not charge you with the crime for doing what you did. Thats killing Tyre Nichols. One officer is charged, convicted for causing bodily injury, but given that they killed him, it is hard to imagine that. Someone could say, look, david, the jury heard all this and decided to provide a mixed verdict, but here is what you have to look at. Officer martin chose to plead to 40 years, because he knew what the facts were. And these men are now facing less than half that amount of time, if they get the maximum. That puts in perspective what the real gist of this verdict is. So, david, where does this go next . It goes to the State Court. What can we expect there . It is going to go to the State Court next. I think prosecutors, sometimes prosecutors like to do, they say, look, the charge carries the biggest potential sentence, thats been resolved now. Were going to entertain the likelihood of allowing them to reach Plea Agreements consistent with whatever they get sentenced to in that court. It is going to be really hard to do that when you have one officer you pled to 40 years before the trial. I think theyre forced to try this because theyre looking at a range of 15 to 60 years on second Degree Murder there in tennessee. But those prosecutors will face the same basic uphill battle that they did in federal court. Priscilla thompson and david henderson, thank you so much. Next, amid the ongoing threat of political violence, a troubling new report describes an exodus of the best trained members of the Secret Service. Well talk to one of the reporters behind these new details. Plus, he blasted into the Worlds Consciousness 55 years ago after his performance at woodstock, a privilege for me to be able to chat with and get to know the legendary Carlos Santana. Youre watching Jose Diazbalart reports on msnbc. Santana. Youre watching Jose Diazbalart reports on msnbc. And the flavor you love. So, heres to now. Now available Boost Max here you go. 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Again, the agents sign up knowing that. When they didnt have enough people and the total number of agents went down, the number of hours that they were being asked hundreds of hours of overtime, forced overtime. They got to a point where they were working so many hours of overtime that they were had maxing out on the amount of pay they could get. They were working for free. Agents were exhausted and being forced to work for free. Many of them were saying, thats it. Im out. You just mentioned that Secret Service actually hit their highest levels of employment over this summer. When are we going to see the impact of that . Well, their goal is to reach 10,000 total employees. They were at about 7,700 until recently they just hit about 8,000. They have gone up slightly. They are still below the goal that they set in 2022 right now and were in 24. Basically, this means that they have a little more flexibility. 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I guess you are supposed to sound like yourself. Shut up and stop sounding like anybody else. God gave you your sound for a reason. Honor it. His journey began in mexico. I came to San Francisco because of my mother. My heart and my ears were open to what they used to call a certain kind of music. All of them came from african music. You were able to bring all of those elements together and make it uniquely yours. How did you do that . For me, it was normal to integrate i like music that has a lot of energy. Im an energy guy. I also love the Underneath Music like Myles Davis playing a ballad. Somehow the blending of the balance is beautiful. You have lived a life of miracles. You have lived a life of coincidences as well. Yeah. Blessings and miracles and consequences. Thats what the whole this interview is about for me. Its about reminding people that life is meaningful. You are significant and meaningful. You are precious and priceless. Take the time to cherish yourself. Whats the part of Carlos Santana thats infinite. My energy, my connection with god. I dont let go of the hand. Im always holding his hand no matter what i do. Im always holding gods hand. This year, Carlos Santana celebrates the 25th Anniversary of his record smashing album supernatural and packs audiences at House Of Blues, his residecy in las vegas. I will see you tomorrow night. You can reach me on social media. You can watch clips from our show at youtube. Thank you for the privilege of your time. Andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. Right now on Andrea Mitchell reports, breaking this morning, a better than expected Jobs Report, One Day after dockworkers agree to a deal to suspend the port strike, giving a boost to the Harris Campaign, as Vice President harris tries to ride the momentum from Liz Cheneys Endorsement And Campaign appearance in wisconsin while suffering a setback with the