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Power. Unlikely allies, Liz Cheney hitting the road with vp Kamala Harris, taking her pitch to the birthplace of the Republican Party. Also ahead, Helenes Aftermath, the president heading back to the southeast to view more damage as the Storms Death Toll climbs again. And israels deepest strikes into lebanon yet. This as israel prepares to respond to the Missile Barrage from iran. Good morning, it is 10 00 a. M. Eastern, 7 00 a. M. Pacific. Thanks for joining us. Im Ana Cabrera reporting from new york. And with just about a month until Election Day, americans are seeing a trove of previously unreleased evidence in a Special Counsels Election Interference Case against Donald Trump. Through 165 pages, Jack Smith details several layers of trumps alleged scheme to overturn the 2020 Election Results. The crux of the Prosecutions Argument is this. Quote, when the defendant lost the 2020 president ial election, he resorted to crimes to try to stay in office. At its core, the Defendants Scheme was a private criminal effort. Private is the keyword there. After the Supreme Courts controversial decision granting broad president ial immunity, smith must now show that trumps alleged actions laid out here cannot qualify as official acts. Lets bring in nbc News Correspondent vaughn hillyard, Nbc News Justice And Intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian, and a pair of msnbc legal analysts, former federal prosecutor in the southern district of new york, kristy greenberg, along with civil Rights Attorney and former prosecutor, charles coleman. We have had the house January 6th committee hearings, the initial Special Counsel election indictment, and now this updated factual proffer, whats new in here . This is a 165 Page Document with new evidence that reads almost like a novel. Theres a lot of interesting new tidbits including in the immediate after math of the election, even as the votes were being counted, theres testimony that Trump Staffers were talking about concocting protests after the socalled brooks Brothers Riot that happened in 2000. One is quoted as saying, make them riot. And then you have a Trump Staffer testifying that Donald Trump himself was overheard telling Family Members whether you win or lose, you have to fight like hell, suggesting that even if he knew he lost, he would still try to fight to stay in power, which is exactly what the Special Counsel says he did and broke the law doing so. The most interesting revelations come around his interactions with Vice President Mike Pence, and based on five pages of contemporaneous notes that the January 6th committee as far as we know did not have access to and we have never seen before its fascinating. It portrays Mike Pence trying to gently and gradually trying to convince Donald Trump that he lost and it would be okay to leave the White House and that they could consider it an intermission, he could run again. Then it shows trump turning against pence when it became clear that pence was not going to stop the certification on January 6th, and then it takes us up to the moment that the rioters were pouring into the capitol, and Donald Trump was told that Mike Pence was in danger, and told at one point that he had been evacuated to a secure location and the aides were hoping that the president would order some kind of action to protect his Vice President , and this document quotes Donald Trump as saying, so what. So thats a lot alone, and its just scratching the surface of what is in here. Vaughn, what are we hearing from trump and his campaign . Have they disputed any of the facts of this filing . No, not at this point. For the trump campaign, you turn attention to Donald Trumps Social Media. Literally minutes after this filing was publicly released, Donald Trump began posting on his Social Media account saying in part that its a falsehood, unconstitutional j6 brief. Its worth noting that Donald Trump, though, is not refuting any of the actual substance of what is inside of this document. He is not refuting that he put pressure on Vice President pence or other republican lawmakers like Georgia Governor Brian kemp, and Arizona Governor Doug ducey, which is outlined inside of this filing, and it does not include any refuting of his conversations that he had with the likes of ronna mcdaniel, rnc chairwoman, and or close ally, Steve Bannon or other advisers to his campaign. At the same time, we expect, based off a request from trumps lawyers, they have sought from Judge Chutkan to have an additional five weeks added on for them to be able to respond with their own filing to the Jack Smith filing, so of course this all comes down to we dont expect much movement here before Election Day on this. But at this point in time, its up to Donald Trump and his campaign to respond in kind, and instead of actually refuting specifics as part of his 160page filing, Donald Trump is just outright dismissing it in its entirety, the basis that the indictment was brought against him. The Special Counsel must prove this case involves private conduct. That it has nothing to do with President Trumps official acts. That was because of the Supreme Courts ruling. Based on this new filing, what youre reading here, does it look like Jack Smiths case is harder to prove . No, i think based on what he has set forth here, hes set forth a lot of different categories of conduct that seem to be plainly private. He talks, for example, about Donald Trumps interactions with various state officials, and he paints a really dismal picture where Donald Trump is right in the center of it. He is out there not only trying to pedal all kinds of knowingly bogus Election Fraud claims, but when the various officials of the states say, no, thats not true, were not going to overturn our elections, were going to follow our process, you know, Donald Trump then starts to, you know, publicly attack them, and retaliate against them, and its numerous people. Its governors, its house speakers, state legislatures, i mean, its really striking to see, and its, you know, how in the world could the supreme Court Look at that as bullying, and telling people not to do their jobs and say that is somehow within his president ial authority. The president has no authority to engage in what states do and how they certify, you know, their votes, so, again, you know, thats just one example. There are many many examples throughout this, where Jack Smith really gets into the details and really paints a very clear picture as to why this is unofficial conduct. Speaking of details, theres a lot of new detail in here about Donald Trumps Pressure Campaign, his then vp Mike Pence, and the Supreme Court made it very hard for trumps Pressure Campaign involving Mike Pence for that to be a part of this case. Right . Private conversations between a president and a Vice President. But smith argues because the Executive Branch has no role in the proceeding, the president was precluded by design, prosecuting poses no danger to the executive Branchs Authority or functioning. Is getting the pence interactions into the trial the highest bar for the Special Counsel to clear here and how important is that to this case . I think its a very very high bar, ana, and i think one of the things that Jack Smith understands is he can not put all of his eggs in that basket. If hes able to get those notes and conversations in as part of his case in chief, that gives him a huge leg up as far as establishing the fact that these people were not acting in any official capacity, they were Running Mates, talking about a campaign, a victory Donald Trump knew he lost. What this brief lays out very very clearly is that if you take that stuff away, i have enough, as far as the prosecution is concerned, to put on the table in front of a jury or in front of a judge to establish that Donald Trump knew that he had lost, and he was engaged on his own in another campaign that involved no official acts connected to what his responsibilities as a president are. And i think that thats important to understand. If you have the stuff with Mike Pence, i can move forward and it helps a lot. But if i dont, i still have more than enough to make up my Case And Convict Donald Trump for what he has done on January 6th. This filing also zooms in on Trumps Use of twitter, and im quoting here, the Phones Activity Log show that the defendant was using his phone on January 6th, and in particular, using the Twitter Application consistently throughout the day after he returned from the ellipse speech. The Special Counsel wants to introduce this at trial using an fbi forensic expert, what do you think the prosecutors are trying to show with this . Theyre trying to show on January 6th, Donald Trump has actively involved himself, not having some aide do it, he is himself tweeting, and the tweets are, you know, spreading Election Fraud, even on that day, leading up to it, and on that day, he is trying to retaliate and pressure Mike Pence to not certify those votes. He is rallying his base. Hes inflaming his base. Theres one tweet in particular at 2 24 on that day at January 6th where he says Mike Pence lacks courage. Thats when he already knew that the capital had been breached and then he finds out that that could potentially harm him. Jack smith refers to that tweet as a powder keg, knowing that could be putting Mike Pence in danger. Sure enough, he says so what when hes provided with information that he had to be moved to a secure location. These tweets are very important evidence, and, again, you know, if youre spreading Election Fraud, if youre trying to pressure Mike Pence, if youre trying to retaliate against your opponents and rally your base, none of that is president ial duties. All of that is what hes doing as a candidate to try to overturn the Election Results. Charles, ken mentioned this incident in detroit where votes were being counted the day after the election, and there was this pro Trump Group that was there on site, and looking to cause some chaos. Quote, when the colleague, and this is a colleague of trumps hes saying, when a colleague suggested that there was about to be unrest, reminiscent of the brooks Brothers Riot, an unnamed Campaign Aide responded, make them riot and do it. Prosecutor says this is one example of trumps private operatives trying to create chaos, intending to have some kind of a riot, but do they have to prove that trump was behind that specifically if this is an indictment against trump himself . Well, there has to be a connection at some level between Donald Trump and these actions, not necessarily that he specifically directed them to do this specific act. However, with respect to the ultimate goal that Donald Trump sought to accomplish, which was deserting or preventing the certification or disrupting the elective process in 2020, if that is found to be in the scheme of what Donald Trump was advancing, that will be sufficient for Jack Smith to move forward. The specific acts in terms of how its accomplished is not necessarily something Jack Smith has to establish beyond sort of presenting a case that basically ties in, we all were acting in this common goal, and we were all clear about the common goal that was set forth in advance by the former president . Ken, trump has been complaining about the timing of the brief being made public. Did Jack Smith have any control over the timing of the release . In the immediate term, he did not. This was a decision by the judge to unseal a sealed filing. The Special Counsels office didnt know this was going to be happening yesterday. Theres a larger issue here where you can question whether Jack Smith could have done something to avoid this happening until after the election, could have asked the judge for more time, but the justice Departments Position is this does not violate guidelines. They have a case to litigate. The Supreme Court has asked that this procedure happen to sort out whats private and whats official, and that they need to move forward. And Judge Tanya Chutkan made clear she believes the election has no bearing on how the case should be handled. Vaughn, trump calls the timing Election Interference, arent his legal moves the reason this all was delayed to this point right before the election . Right. Lets be clear, when we were talking about him disputing underlying facts of the case, Donald Trump has maintained that each of the actions he took were well within his right, not only as president but as somebody who continues to make the case that the 2020 election was falsely stolen from him, and we are already seeing, a month before the 2024 election, the current republican nominee lay claim to more than a dozen Election Interference claims hes making about this election, in which domestic actors, he has made the case, google to the Secret Service to the biden administration, to Jack Smith, to Judge Chutkan, they are the ones actively interfering in this election in order to manipulate and make the outcome unfair. While there is a focus on the pending criminal case for his actions after the 2020 election, hes already laying down a very clear foundation, like he did in 2020, make the case that this election, we are one month out from is being actively interfered with by other individuals that are not him. Vaughn hillyard, ken dilanian, charles coleman, kristy greenberg, thank you all for this conversation. Next, just 24 hours after the Special Counsel filing, an unlikely Surrogate Set to appear on the Campaign Trail with Kamala Harris. Israels deepest strikes into lebanon, and as Israel Vows Retaliation against iran. Were live from a region on edge. Plus, the growing struggle to find food, gas, and even running water after helenes devastation. The latest on the Recovery Efforts in the southeast. Were back in 90 seconds. ] arearn Saint Jude they gave it 110 every time. 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This is the scene in beirut where nine people were killed and 14 injured in israels deepest strikes into the lebanese capital. Meanwhile, to the east, israel is preparing to strike back against iran for tuesdays Missile Barrage. How israel will respond is not yet clear, but they have promised the retaliation will be swift and painful. Joining us now, Nbcs Raf Sanchez in northern israel near the border with lebanon. Also with us, evelyn farkas, former Senior Adviser to the commander in europe. And daniel platka. Lets start with whats happening, israeli officials said this offensive would last days, not weeks, but we just saw the deepest strikes yet. More people are being told to evacuate from lebanon. Whats the latest . Reporter were two miles in the lebanese border here, and everything we are seeing here on the ground indicate that is this socalled limited israeli offensive is getting bigger by the day. A couple of data points. When israel announced the offensive on monday saying these were limited and targeted raids, they said there was one division of israeli forces involved. Now, thursday, there are two divisions, and as we drive across northern israel, every road, almost, is full with military vehicles. We are seeing tanks at staging areas all across the north of this country. Which strongly suggests israel is preparing to send more forces in, and we are also getting signs that israel is expanding the area of operations where it plans to attack inside of lebanon. Today the Israeli Military ordered lebanese civilians to evacuate from several villages and towns which are not directly on the border, but some of them are north of the latani river, The End of the Buffer Zone to separate hezbollah and israel. That indicates that israel is planning to push further. It is taking casualties, at least eight soldiers killed yesterday, and as you said, nine people killed in this israeli strike in the center of beirut. When it comes to iran, do we have any idea what type of Retaliation Israel is considering . Reporter Israels Ambassador to the United Nations said Israels Response would be on a scale unlike anything iran had seen before. That has a lot of people very nervous that israel could attack irans nuclear facilities. That is something that is likely to elicit an enormous response from the iranians. President biden was asked about that possibility. Take a listen. Would you support an attack on irans nuclear sites by israel . The answer is no. And i think theres things well be discussing with the israelis what theyre going to do, and all seven of us agree that they have a right to respond, but they should respond proportionately. Reporter now, prime Minister Netanyahu met yesterday with the heads of the Israeli Military and its Intelligence And Security agencies to discuss how, when, what scale to respond. An israeli official tells me israel is planning to respond swiftly, saying that it cannot afford to allow iran or its enemies around the region to think that an attack like this will go unanswered. Raf sanchez in northern israel, thank you. Danielle, u. S. Officials have said they want to tamp down tensions to prevent an all out war, but netanyahu says they are already in one against Irans Access of evil. Where does that leave us . I think it leaves us wait to go see what the israelis are going to do. You know, part of the problem is when you call for proportionality for the israelis, its an utterly meaningless term. Are the israelis supposed to send 181 ballistic missiles towards iran, towards cities in violation of international law, in violation of the laws of war. What they need to do is give the iranians a clear message that this is the time to end the escalations from iran. If they want to hit some of the nuclear sites, whether its the entry ways, access to them. Some of the research facilities, thankfully, i think Joe Biden doesnt know what hes talking about when he suggests they shouldnt do it. The Jewish New Year has just begun. Could that have impact on the timing of retaliation from iran or new strikes from hezbollah. They could wait until rosh hashanah has concluded. I dont think they feel necessarily bound by that religious restriction, though, when it comes to a military operation, and i would say, you know, i would add to what danielle said, i dont think the u. S. Government should necessarily chime in on exactly what israel should be doing or shouldnt be doing. We can have that conversation with the israeli government behind the scenes. But i wouldnt counsel our government to tie israels handles publicly in the way that it appears the president is trying to do. So, danielle, the biden administration has said it is fully supportive of israel, but President Biden says he would not support an israeli strike on irans nuclear facilities, something that some in israel are calling for. Neftali bennett saying we must start now to stop irans nuclear program and fatally cripple this terrorists regime. The octopuss tentacles are temporarily paralyzed, now comes the head. You say this would be the right move. Do you think israel would go ahead without the u. S. s support . The problem for the united states is that over the last year, weve really been pushing harder and harder for israel to do less and less. At a certain moment, as evelyn says correctly, when you start advising the israelis through the media as Joe Biden just did, and by the way, prior to talking to the israeli government, they stopped listening, and while i think the israelis are very grateful for the support they have gotten from the united states, for the weaponry that has sustained their efforts to repulse iran and its proxies, you know, the Bottom Line is the israelis have an opportunity. The iranians have hit them twice and failed tuition. Twice. The iranians are at the weakest we have seen in a year that has been very good for them. I think this is an opportunity for the israelis, not a time for them to be warned. Evelyn, would the upcoming u. S. Election play any part in the Decision Making for officials in the region . Well, i think it plays a role in what our administration is saying publicly and privately, clearly, ana, you know, the biden administration does not want to do anything that might jeopardize the chances of course of the Vice President. Again, i would agree with danielle, this is an opportunity for the israeli government. I think our government needs to take counsel with the israelis very quietly. This is a serious situation. We have long been determined to stop irans nuclear, you know, arms capability, stop them from breaking out and becoming a nuclear power, which they are almost. They can do it in a matter of days, as Secretary Blinken said. So, i think we need to be really caution here, and exercise some verbal restraint. Okay. Evelyn farkas, danielle pletka, got to leave it there. Thank you very much for offering your expertise and insights. Still ahead, Liz Cheney to hit the Campaign Trail with Vice President harris, taking her pitch for the democratic contender to the birthplace of the Republican Party. Also ahead, President Biden is set to view Helenes Aftermath in georgia and florida this afternoon with folks across the southeast still reeling from that storm. We have no heat. We cant wash our dishes. We have no phones. We cant call our people. Nothing. We have nothing. G. Information, at the right time, may make all the difference. At humana, we know thats especially true when youre looking for a Medicare Supplement Insurance plan. Thats why were offering seven things every Medicare Supplement should have. Its your free, just for calling the number on your screen. And when you call, a knowledgeable, licensed agentproducer can answer any questions you have and help you choose the plan thats right for you. The call is free. And theres no obligation. 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Reporter hi there, from devastated North Carolina where honestly across the region were looking at a Death Toll now that is approaching 200 confirmed fatalities, almost exactly half of them here in North Carolina. There are still dozens of towns that are accessible by air or mule, and the infrastructure issues are major. This is a huge hole that is just sitting a crater in the middle of the road. These litter the road up and down in both directions as residents are waiting to find out is it going to be weeks or months before they have running water again. The full extent of helenes destructive toll coming into focus. After the rising waters rushed through these communities, forcing some to puncture holes in their roofs to escape homes. Satellite images show how Flood Waters overwhelmed french broad river. Video showing dramatic landslides in the mountains causing widespread destruction. As residents . Swananoar are getting their first look at devastation. Theres 8 to 12 inches of mud. Reporter the 100 Bed Er forced to take care of 200 patients, staff treating sick and injured in triage tents with limited resources. Everything people see on the news, its worse in person. Reporter these trucks providing the only access to clean water. Surgery and Procedures Cant Go On because theres no water for doctors to scrub in. Reporter hca telling Nbc News, they are staying hope, and we are hopeful that the asheville Communitys Infrastructure will be controlled soon but we have contingency plans in place and will continue to evaluate how best to take care of our patients and our colleagues. On wednesday, President Biden surveying the damage from the air, saying relief will cost billions but promising more aid is on the way. And while so many have lost so much, for those left with something to clean up, finding even a small memento is monumental. These are things you cant get back. Theres no amount of fema that will put these pictures back. Reporter as many people taking Solace And Comfort in the small things, that are significant challenges ahead, to put it mildly. There are roughly A Million customers across North Carolina, South Carolina and georgia, that do not have power. In bunken county, the figure is 90,000, about the same as yesterday. Not a ton of movement. As far as water restoration, officials do not want to give a time line, the damage is so catastrophic. Now lets go to Marissa Parra in bristol, tennessee. It feels like the more we get a chance to look at the damage or survey, the further in we go, the worse everything looks. What are the communitys biggest needs there right now, and where are the Recovery Efforts this morning . Reporter i can tell you, im standing in one of the places thats working on the Recovery Efforts, ana. So this is bristol speedways, one of their warehouses. Its 80,000 square feet, and it is waiting to be filled with supplies, donations. It just opened this morning. They are still waiting for them to be filled, but we are already starting to see them get filled Little By little, and they are asking for people to donate. Were talking about top needs here, diapers, wipes, first aid, batteries, flashlights. So this is just a small portion of what were seeing. Of course, we have seen churches doing the same, small, local Community Donation drives, but, ana, as some people are in the process of cleaning up, digging out their homes and starting the rebuilding phase, of course were talking about people trying to give aid to others, this is still a dire situation for so many. Sam brock illustrated that in North Carolina. We have seen similar situations here in tennessee. There are still Family Members waiting to find their missing loved ones, impact plastics a local factory. There has been a lot of tension with spanish speaking families. They have been unable to communicate effectively with local officials. The Tennessee Bureau is looking into that, the role they may have played with the Factory Workers there as Flood Waters came in. Were talking about a moment of grief and desperation. Where there is grief, very often there are so many people pitching in however you can. If youre the in local area, theyre asking come to bristol speedway, theyre doing a lot of things, including holding and hosting this Donation Center for you to bring supplies if you can. Marissa parra, thank you for bringing us that. Up next on Ana Cabrera reports, Liz Cheney stumps for Kamala Harris. And Donald Trump is headed to a state fresh off the filing from the Special Counsel as his Running Mate faces criticism for the Debate Question he never really answered. Never really answered. Ishes up to 100 clean, even in an older dishwasher . Try cascade platinum plus. For sparkling clean dishes even on the toughest jobs. Just scrape, load and youre done. 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When you sponsor a job on indeed, its easier for talented candidates to find it. Which makes it easier for you to hire them. Visit indeed. Com hire. Its a political pairing at one point would have been unimaginable. In a few hours, former Republican Congresswoman Liz Cheney hitting the trail with Vice President harris. Their joint appearance happening In The City recognized as the birthplace of the Republican Party, their first stop together since Cheneys Endorsement of harris last month. Hours after Jack Smith laid out new details about former President Trumps alleged Election Interference and actions on January 6th. The reason for cheneys break with her party. Joining us now, nbcs ali vitali, Msnbc Host and associate editor, jonathan capehart, and matthew dowd, msnbc political analyst, and former Chief Strategist for the Bush Cheney 2004 campaign. Talk to us as why the campaign sees this as right time to join Liz Cheney join the Vice President on the trail. Reporter if shes elected in november, she would be a president not just for democrats but for all americans, and we have seen the Harris Campaign in recent months make end roads with independents, with republicans, but specifically with these never trump republicans, these republicans that have been disillusioned by former President Trump, and the campaigns thinking now with just over a month until Election Day is what better time than now to really double down on these efforts, and so thats thing behind this Event Today that were going to see Vice President harris appear for the first time with former congresswoman Liz Cheney since her endorsement last month, and youll remember a few days after her endorsement, we saw her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney follow in her foot steps. Theyre going to, as you mentioned, whats widely considered to be the birthplace of the Republican Party, with several meetings in the mid1800s, that led to the creation of the gop. You can remember what cheney brings to this event, brings to the campaign. She was at one point the number three house republican. She served as Vice Chair of the January 6th committee. Played a huge role in the Impeachment Effort of former President Trump. Remember, she eventually lost her seat in wyoming to a trumpbacked rival, and she has said ever since that she would do everything in her power to make sure that former President Trump didnt return to the White House. So thats the thinking behind this Event Today, and a senior Campaign Official tells us that a little bit of what we could expect from harris, expect her to really praise cheney for her courage in choosing her country over party, and saying even though she may disagree with republicans on several issues, her Vision And Goal for the country is the same as Liz Cheneys. Ali vitali, thank you. What do you see as Cheneys Role and potential impact in this campaign . Well, i think this is real important, not only because its historic in this moment but also as it harkens back to a time when there was a bunch of people as part of the Wig Party who felt they had nowhere to go, and ultimately formed the Republican Party in the 1850s, as we talked about on the issue of slavery, which obviously turned the country into a Civil War over the matter. What this does, Liz Cheney and others, its a signal to independent voters tired of the partisan politics that dont like either political party, dont like democrats per se, and dont like republicans per se, feel like theyre sitting in the middle of nowhere, dont feel like anybody responds to them. This bipartisanship message, and symbolism sends a signal to them that, like, you can be comfortable here. Thats one thing. The other part, which we dont often talk about soft republicans who cant see themselves voting for Vice President harris, but because of Liz Cheney, what they could get is a single, do you really want to get up that morning and turn out and be enthusiastic and vote for Donald Trump because many of them dont like Donald Trump but cant see themselves voting for a democrat. I think this thing is twofold, a great signal to independents but also a signal to republicans, i dont think it will cause them to vote for the Vice President , but it could cause them easily to basically say im not going to vote for the top of the ticket. Jonathan, the timing of cheneys campaign appearance, a day after the Bomb Shell Court filing from Jack Smith, the election lies, the January 6th attack that pushed cheney away from trump and his Republican Party. Will the new details in this new brief by the Special Counsel about trumps actions breakthrough with voters . One can only hope. I hope it breaks through with voters the way the January 6th hearings, i believe, with voters. The hearings would have no impact, that everyone knows everything, everyones dug in but after ten hearings, dramatic hearings where we saw what we saw with our own eyes, live on January 6th, but then hearing live testimony, learning new things, i think it was almost impossible for the american public and for the electorate to not hear those things, internalize them, and then have that inform their vote when they went into the Voting Booth in the 2022 election. The debate between Governor Walz and Senator Vance and his nonanswer, to January 6th, finally being release bid Judge Chutkan, to the campaigning were about to see, Liz Cheney with Vice President harris, it all will serve to, well, one, were talking about January 6th again, which gives us in television a reason to show the images from that horrible day here In The City. And i agree with Matthew 100 , what Liz Cheney does and her father and the hundreds of republicans who have come out and endorsed the Vice President , its giving those republicans who cant see themselves voting for Donald Trump but are unsure about Vice President harris, it gives them the permission, the Permission Structure to vote for her, if not for her, then for the constitution because what the Liz Cheney endorsement demonstrates the stakes of this election. Jonathan, on the other hand, trump has been posting a lot about this special Counsel Brief since it came out, calling it a witch hunt, calling it Election Interference. Weve seen him get momentum in the past when his legal troubles are front and center. Could this potentially help him politically . I mean, you know, sure, it might. I mean, thats what we have seen over these last few months, but as many people have pointed out, the former president has a ceiling on his support. And so whats he going to do, just rile up the people who are already riled up and who are with him . We will see, finally, in about, how many days do we have . 32, 33 days . Thats when well know for sure. Just 33 days until the election. Matthew, jonathan mentioned that nonanswer from j. D. Vance at the debate when he was asked about whether trump lost the 2020 election. Well, he was asked about that yesterday at an event in michigan. Watch. Heres the simple reason. The media is obsessed with talking about the election of four years ago, im focused on the election of 33 days from now because i want to throw Kamala Harris out of office and get back to Common Sense economic policies. Matthew, trump brings up 2020 all the time, but how is it that the Republican Party is still struggling to deal with his obsession nearly four years later . Well, because they have never been able to admit reality, which is Joe Biden won. They refuse to admit reality, and its like a 12step program. Until you admit you have a problem and then Go On, you can move to the next step. They have never admitted they have a problem. And the problem is their lead candidate refuses to accept Election Results in a country where democracy is base on the loser fading away and accepting the results of this. And i think its so hypocritical of j. D. Vance to say that democrats or the media wants to talk about this. When the person who talks about this the most day in and day out and complains and whines and refuses to go along with what the voters wanted is Donald Trump, and thats fundamentally the problem. And i want to add something to a previous answer jonathan said when i agree with completely, Donald Trump, we say he gathers momentum when hes under legal problems. He never gathers momentum with Swing Voters. He gathers momentum his base. It helped him with his base against Ron Desantis when he was running in the primary. But all of this problem does nothing but put off Swing Voters and independent voters who are ultimately going to decide this election. Thank you both, and Catch Jonathan every weekend at 6 00 p. M. Eastern right here on msnbc. Turning to another major issue in the president ial campaign, Abortion Rights, and according to a new reporting in the guardian, former first Lady Melania Trump defends Abortion Rights in her upcoming memoir and supported them her entire adult life. In a new video on x this morning, she appears to confirm this reporting. Individual freedom is a fundamental principle that i safeguard. Without a doubt, there is no room for compromise when it comes to this essential right, that all women possess from birth, individual freedom. What does my body, my choice really mean . Now, this appears to be the first time mrs. Trump has publicly weighed in on Abortion Rights. She didnt address it when her husband said he would appoint justices who would overturn roe v. 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Lets bring in cnbcs Lori Ann Morocco who has more on this. This strike could have a real impact on consumers, on all of us, what more do we know about that and the ongoing negotiations . Good morning, ana, thanks. Well, in terms of the negotiations, i, moments ago, i was in contact with the usmx and they unfortunately are not going back to the negotiation table. Both sides are essentially pointing fingers at one another as the reason as to why we are having this stalemate. When it comes to the consumer, it is the perishable goods that is the greatest concern among shippers and even grocers. I spoke with the ceo of stewart leonards, the grocer we know here in the tristate area, and over the shortterm, youre going to see prices up. He told me that because of the lengthier trip from china to the united states or even by air, your banana might cost double. And so what is going to happen is that the consumer, theyre going to choose an apple to put in the Lunch Box rather than the banana. 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