Welcome to The Beat im ari melber. The United States is readying for tonights big debate between Governor Walz and Jd Vance, the senator. Both Running Mates of trump and harris. This is the last debate of the president ial campaign. It is significant. Josh shapiro, the governor of the Swing State of pennsylvania will join us live in a moment. That is coming up in a few moments. The other big story is the top international news in the world and it is coming out of The Middle East where iran has attacked israel today. It is an attack coming after israels strikes on hezbollah in lebanon. That is some of the scene, the Air Raid sirens and the skies ablaze. The missiles which would have the power to destroy entire buildings. They were largely intercepted. Our sourcing comes from israel and the United States. The defense there was able to intercept the vast majority of the missiles. The reports are there are no casualties in israel from the many attempted strikes. One palestinian man was killed by Shrapnel On the west bank. This coming hours after israel launched an incursion into south lebanon. The United States overseeing the response from the Situation Room. A Brandnew Photograph released from inside the Situation Room. Both have now spoken out on irans attack. The attack appears to have been defeated and ineffective. Testament to israel military capability and u. S. Military. We will never hesitate to take whatever action is necessary to defend u. S. Forces and interests against iran and iranbacked terrorists. This is a fastmoving story. Erin what can you tell us on the ground . Reporter hey there, ari. Well, i was just speaking via zoom with an Israel Military Spokesman in Central Israel. This was the largest ballistic Missile Attack in israels history. They are taking this extraordinarily seriously. 80 missiles hitting various points, most intercepted by the Iron Dome System and other Air Defense systems. He also pointed to a coalition of countries that came to israels defense, led by the United States although he wouldnt go into specifics in terms of what countries were involved in that effort. But he was pointing to the damage done even though most of the missiles were intercepted, some did make it through. He was at a building in a residential neighborhood that was hit by Missile Shrapnel and showed me on zoom some of the damage. I want you to Take A Look. We are here in Central Israel where shrapnel has a potential to blowup the area, a residential area in Central Israel. What are we looking at there . This is near a residential area. There were shops here. You can see shrapnel from one of those ballistic missiles that fell nearby here. We cant go to the site. It is unsafe. But this is an area of collateral damage. Now the Big Question becomes how will israel respond. We did hear from the Prime Minister at the beginning of his political security cabinet meeting. The response will be a political decision on the part of his government. He said iran made a big Mistake Tonight and it will pay for it. Today president biden reiterated the administrations support for israel. Also a testament to intensive planning between United States and israel to anticipate and defend against the brazen attack that we expected. Make no mistake, the United States is fully, fully supportive of israel. I want to bring in david, a foreign Policy Expert who worked in the clinton administration. How are you david . Good. David, tell us your understanding of what is happening at this hour. Well, i think at this hour people are waiting to see how many steps that we take up the Escalatory Ladder at this point. There is an expectation that the israelis are likely to strike iran, possibly strike Oil And Gas facilities and possibly strike part of their nuclear program and may do it as early as this evening. Last evening we were talking about the incursion into lebanon could lead to escalation. Today we saw that. Tomorrow we will be speaking about the next step in this escalation. I do think that it is important that both the president and the Vice President made it clear that the United States is standing with israel and is working to help defend israel against this unprecedented attack. David, i think the audience can hear you. I did lose your audience. When you look at what the administration has done thus far. Tonight we will hear from the Running Mate to harris. What else do you think is important that the United States wants to get across and is there any bipartisanship about the policies for the United States ahead in the region. There should be. This is the kind of situation where there has been unity in the past. That is not what we heard today. We heard Donald Trump at a rally going through his litany of this would never have happened under my watch, except it did happen. There was a Missile Attack on u. S. Troops in iraq to which he did not respond. He said that he would be tougher. When he pulled out of the iran nuclear deal. Today they are weeks or months away. Today is much more dangerous because of him, and you know he was ranting on about other kinds of things, you know. An app on Kamala Harris Phone by which she could call up cartels to come up and come border. In other words he wasnt serious. Jd Vance Isnt serious about this type of things. The president , the Vice President in the Situation Room today were showing what real leadership in a crisis like this looks like, and i think that will be the contrast that a lot of people are going to see during the Debate Tonight. Who is ready for this. Which side is prepared to lead because this crisis is not going away. David, thank you for joining us On A Very Volatile Set of developments in the region. The middle east is certain to be a topic of Debate Tonight. Tim Walz And Jd vance will square off. Right now we have a newsmaking guest. The governor of the state of pennsylvania. You can see him there with Vice President harris. Shapiro is one of The Partys national stars. Thanks for being here. Great To Be With You ari. Great to have you. We will get in To Domestic Policy and politics, all of that. First i would get your thoughts on the volatile situation in The Middle East, the iranian attack on israel and how it will play in to the Debate Tonight. We heard a little from the Vice President. What do you expect . This is obviously an unprecedented attack on isel, and presumably based on the comments made it will be met with a swift response. Dont forget iran is the largest exporter of terrorism Around The World includings it proxy, hezbollah, who has been attacking israel from the north for the better part of the last year. This is a serious and a dangerous and a volatile situation. We need to make sure that iran pays a price for their unprecedented attack. Turning to the domestic policies in the debate. We looked how Jd Vance sounded in his past debate. Abortion was a big issue then. Lets Take A Look how he sounded in that debate. I recognize a lot of people are pro choice. I was raised by a woman, old School Democrat who believed abortion should be safe, legal, rare. That is not congressmans ryan view. I think abortion and reproductive freedom is a Center Issue in the election and on peoples minds. I mean Donald Trump and his sidekick, Jd Vance, will sign a national abortion ban. They will take away power from governors like me who have protected women in our home states. I think that it is incredibly dangerous. I expect that Tim Walz is going to make that case and make it clear that there is an incredible contrast in this race between where Jd Vance and Donald Trump are as compared to Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. I think this is a central issue. Jd vance is out of step with the american people. Yeah. There is a lot of talk about the rust belt, the Blue Wall, whatever you want to call it. If you poll on these candidates, and i cautioned people to take it all with a grain of salt. They are polling in the 40s there, Walz And vance. There is the idea that Jd Vance has a kind of a better edge for the republican party. I want to read one thing from The Atlantic for you. They argue vance can squeeze trumpism and produce something looking like a coherent ideology, the counter to trumps rambling and rallying speech. With the fact that trump did not do great in the last debate. He could use a polish tonight. I dont think Jd Vance has been polished or coherent. In addition to that he is lying to the american people about springfield, ohio. He took an oath of office to preserve and protect. He lies to the mooept because he is lying to himself about Donald Trump. The guy probably took a Debate Class or two at yale. It does not scape the fact that what he is selling is not something that people are buying. He continues to lie about his home state. I do not expect him to do well this evening. Is goofy the new weird . I dont know, more importantly they say you are not talking about anything that will make my life better. Elections are about the future. They are about electing people that are going to make our lives better. Make it more affordable. Make us safer At Home and abroad. Jd Vance And Donald trump have offered no serious policies and no serious plans or vision on how to do that for the american people. A lot of people in The Party think you are a good communicator. The next question will be good to get your responses on. There are attacks on Kamala Harris and Tim Walz that are sort of lies or out of bounds. And there are policy questions about her evolution. I am sure you are familiar with some of this. I will put up on the stances. Washington post said the policies shifted. Harris in 2019 embraced the Fracking Ban and supported medicare for all. Advocating a polishing private health insurance. Supreme court reform, it is interesting. Now she is as, well, Supreme Court reforms like the ethics reforms and perhaps term limits. But not going as far as she did in 2019. A lot of people want a stronger stance. Five years ago she had one. Do you think we will hear about that at the Debate Tonight . It is important to state your views and not shut yourself off from the opinions of other people. Considering yourself how you evolve on a particular issue. Fracking, she was against it and after listening to others she understands how it makes our economy stronger. It puts people to work. I think it is a sign of strength. I will say for myself i ran for Attorney General on a platform of supporting the death penalty. But i couldnt sign off on the prospect of capital punishment. After a few weeks sitting in the chair when i was faced to signing my first execution warrant, i did not sign it. I stood up to the good people of pennsylvania and said i had changed my views. I explained why. I explained how the conversations that i had with pennsylvanians, the conversations that i had with my children changed my views and helped me to evolve. I dont expect all of your viewers to agree with me on that just as sure as i am that they dont agree with the Vice President on all issues. It is interesting. I appreciate you sharing that. As a governor that is one of the most solid obligations that you have. Literally life and death. It is Debate Night. Final item is just for fun, governor. We have some fun. Are you prepared for a moderate amount of fun . I love fun. Is it about my phillies . No. But it is about you. It has been observed that sometimes, some people think you sound somewhat like president obama. You know how i know this . Here is a 78yearold Billionaire who has not stopped whining about his problem. Are you ready to look the next president of the United States in the eye and Say Hello Madam president. We are ready for a president Kamala Harris. Nobody is saying that it is an exact impression. But here you are on Debate Night. Are you aware of sounding like obama or have you tried to sound like obama . The floor is yours. One of those clips i had a Greg Brady moment. It sounded like my voice was changing there. Barak obama is the greatest of my lifetime. I certainly dont try to emulate him. Nobody can. The fact that, you know some people think i might be all right at Public Speakg is really kind. But no. He is the best. He is one of one. Accurate and political consider. But you never tried . Of course not. Of course not. We had to ask. How fun was that for you . Fun and i am happy to talk about the phillies. Next time. Governor shapiro, appreciate you spending time with us on a very big night. Thanks. 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What do you see specifically as Tim Walzs strengths . His strength is to be a real person. I think that will do him very, very well. This is a solid guy. Vance is not solid. The dnc is having fun, trolling a little bit. 2025hq projected on to trump tower. That is their way of trying to get it back in the news. That is a policy attack. It is one that found a foothold. The positive rating for 2025 is below 10 , below 4 sometimes in the polls. Does that come up and how much do they use the debate to bring it back to the person at the top of the picket, Donald Trump. Nobody is going to vote for vance or walz. It will be about what kind of a light you can shed on the capability of the people that are running for president of the United States. If you set out to alienate women, i dont know how you can do a better job than vance has. All walz has to do is show he is a solid, decent person. There is a lot of talk about the moderators and the structure. Most of that is trump echo. Open mic, unmuted approach. Your thoughts on how that plays in. I think that is going to be tough. Vance is a good debater. That is not a complement. He is good at shifting the subject, not answering the question, throwing things in a different direction. I wish they had a muted mic. I expect vance to be fairly trumpy in this debate and say a lot of things that are not true and try to capture attention. One thing that strikes me about vance, he is always about reflecting trump. You know, he will say all of this crazy stuff. It is always catering to the trumpists. Walz is on the ticket because he caters to middle americans. That is a group Kamala Harris needs. I dont know what vance adds to the ticket other than being a smartass. The spotlight on Vance Hasnt favored him. Whatever the Vetting Process was, and was It Anything beyond Donald Trump has been vinced the former critic has turned. That is what vance does really well. Criticized the daylights out of trump before. 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Ad paid for by reelect mayor London Breed 2024. Financial disclosures are available at sfethics. Org. It is Debate Night with Jd Vance and Tim Walz facing off. We can show you that people currently like Walz A little better. It is a 15point gap. Tonights debate will get into big domestic policy issues including womens rights and abortions. I would like abortion to be legal nationally. Mind your own damn business. Should a woman be forced to carry a child to term after she has been the victim of Incest Or Rape . We want women and young boys in the womb to have the right to life. I think two wrongs dont make a right. Do you want Jd Vance deciding about your wife and Daughters Health . As you can see there is plenty of information about both of the Candidates Position on the big issues, but we never have seen them going toetotoe. It will be a drive in the Trump Campaign on that score. Tim Walz Also has been successful. We discussed it tonight on the weird label. Vance and trump struggled to address it. You feel it, these guys are creepy and weird as hell. I had a Diet Mountain Dew today and one yesterday. I am sure they are go to call that racist. It is good. I love you guys. These guys are just weird. They are running for heman woman hater club. She doesnt want to be on film. Cut her out of anything. Vance will go after what republicans see after walzs vulnerability. Jd vance Accused Walz of exaggerating part of his military record. Walz had to address those questions on the frail. Trail. These guys are attacking me for my record of service. I am proud to have served my country and i always will be. I firmly believe you should never denigrate another persons service record. Anyone brave enough to put on that uniform, thank you for your service and sacrifice. That may be the tone that we hear tonight. We will see if it comes up. Walz faced legitimate criticism about how he oversaw the Law Enforcement Response to blm protests that got out of hand. It is not only right wingers where that was controversial. We could see it come up and we will see his response. Jd vance could face questioning. This is something that shouldnt be normalized or assumed as one more political thing. Jd vance rose to national prominence as a critic of trump and as someone that warned against what trump winning would do. Warning Trump Shouldnt ever get power. Vance self identified as a never trumper. He publicly said he would consider a clinton vote. That is how much he opposed Donald Trump. Now he had to retract all of that to literally run with trump. I am a never trump guy. My current plan is to vote Third Party or i joked to my wife i might have to vote for my dog. I cant stomach trump. I think he is noxious and is leading the white workingclass to a very dark place. To a very dark place. Has it only gotten darker . These are the bigger things that can matter if voters that havent heard those welldocumented comments and interviews. If that comes up tonight in a credible way that might remind people that the guy on the stage has a lot of explaining to do and the person that picked him picks people who oppose him that go along with the current power deal. This is important. We are in a campaign. It is supposed to be a democracy. Yet Jd Vance has, as he has warmed to trump and warmed to something that has become a Litmus Test for supporting trump in todays republican party. Are you willing to go along with the rhetoric, the exaggerations, the lies, and ultimately the potential violence in overthrowing democratic elections. If i have been Vice President i would have told the states like pennsylvania, georgia and so many others we needed to have multiple slates of electors. That is the legitimate way to deal with an election that a lot of folks, including me had a lot of problems in 2020. 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What i think i bring is a real Life Experience knowing i dont have the luxury of being partisan. That is what they look like on the Debate Stage. We are joined by the author of a more perfect party, welcome back. Thanks for having me, ari. I appreciate it. Yeah. We go back to debates that otherwise might be lost even in the dustbin of youtube history. You would have to it be a real political junkie. But you can see their strengths and potentially their weaknesses. What are you looking for tonight . I am looking for a couple of things. How they operate as an extension as the person at the top of the ticket. Donald trump sees Jd Vance as an inconsequential individual that only drags him down. Tim walz, as a coach, governor and former teacher is a partner with Vice President harris. I am looking forward to see that coming through. We know Tim Walz is not out there to rouse up the base. He is there to deliver for the people, and his Leadership Style over the years reflected that. The other thing is readiness to take over on Day One should anything happen to the next president. The last clip that you showed of Jd Vance saying that January 6th should have gone differently. That Mike Pence should not have respected the constitution. That there should have been alternate electors so they could overturn an election in the will of the voters. That should stick in the minds of the voters. That is a concern. For all of pences Flaws Hed trump or Jd Vance can say. To be clear there are voters that prefer less experience. They want someone that hasnt been in government. If you count Government Experience they both have served their country, marines and national guard. Walz has been in congress where he worked on veterans affairs, armed service. Governors, executive position. Vance is just in the beginning of his senate term. How does that play in. The Running Mate has got a job that barely matters with no offense to all Running Mate throughout history. It barely matters or it matters more than anything if you become president. Right, ari. The first thing that came to my mind is doing no harm. That is something that Jd Vance seems to be incapable of as he disrespects or offends a different Demographic Group per week, right. When i think about that as it relates to the voters or the real time crisis the nation is facing. His inexperience is an explicit concern. Can you imagine him directing resources across federal agencies in response on it the crisis in tennessee, south carolina, georgia. Tim walz is someone in that Executive Role that knows the basic functioning of government and who has displayed it repeatedly in a way responsive to peoples needs. When he talks about nervous it is markedly different than Jd Vance who is performing for an audience of one in Donald Trump. He is not performing for the people. It is all about appeasing trump. Juanita tolliver, always good to see you. 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So call now or go online to my aclu. Org to become a guardian of liberty. Going great. This is the fun part. A little thought part. A little thought on the prep. What is Tim Walz thinking now hours away from the debate . Thi hours away from the debate how does he approach the big night . I think he went for a run this morning. Offering a really optimistic vision for how to take this country forward and the really dark, divisive path that Jd Vance and Donald Trump have laid out, and im sure that Jd Vance will lay out tonight, talking out of both sides of his mouth and telling a lot of different lies. I think what will serve Governor Walz best is talking about who he is and lay out a really positive vision for the future. We hear so much about authenticity in politics. Its also a theme in culture and on the internet. Being real means sharing some actual truth about yourself. Which is different than being perfect or polished. It seems that he is in a way that has resonated for some, i showed his favorability earlier, he is real or unpolished in a way that people like. Which is separate, of course, from his skills as a leader, his public service, which we touched on. I want to show that going back because this is years back when i dont know that anyone, no matter how ambitious, could have guessed that the guy im about to show you in his first debate, would be on the national ticket now in a tight race where he could end up as Vice President. Take a look. I dont have the luxury of being partisan. I dont have the luxury of being rigid. What we need in education, what we need in the military, and what we need when im fostering cultural changes with china is real solutions. I live in the world most of you liver in. Almost 20 years ago. Same guy. How does that play on the Debate Stage . He is the same guy. Hes relatable. I think thats why hes connecting to voters on the trail. Hes like your neighbor you can come to with a problem. Jd vance is like that guy you run away from at the Pta Meeting because you dont want to talk to him. I think Governor Walz had it right, he called him weird and i think he nailed it on the head. Hes got a lot of weird ideas i think hell try to run away from tonight, but the fact of the matter is he cant. I think hell say anything to perform for an audience of one, Donald Trump, who is running away from a second debate with the Vice President , which i think should happen. I think Governor Walz has shown himself to be a constant because hes an authentic person. Hes always lived a life of service, that comes through whether hes been a teacher or a coach or a veteran as a member of congress and a governor, where hes gotten a whole heck of a lot done for the middle class in minnesota. I think thats what well see tonight, the through line of his life has been service and im looking forward to see him talk about more with undecided voters in states like pennsylvania and michigan and wisconsin where they have also decided a democratic governor makes a lot of osense for them. Great point as well, some of the choices folks have made on the ground in those key Blue Wall states. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me. Theres a lot going on in america and across the world. Were moments away from our special coverage which begins as 7 00 p. M. Eastern. Rachel maddow and the team gearing up for tonights debate, which you can also watch right here on msnbc. Thats next. My name is brayden. I was five years old when i came to st. Jude. Ill try and shorten down the story. So ive been having these headaches that wouldnt go away. My mom, she was just crying. What they said, your son has brain cancer. It was your worst fear coming to life. 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Rachel maddow and our whole team begin special coverage here on msnbc right now. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. The candidates need no introduction. I cant wait to debate the guy. The first and only