Transcripts For MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240929

Less than six weeks to go until Election Day. Vice president Kamala Harris iS Preparing to visit the u. S. Southern border for the first time in more than three years. We do have a broken Immigration System and it needs to be fixed. Ukraines President Zelenskyy made the trip to Trump Tower this morning. I have a very good relationship with President Putin and if we win i think we are going to get itself very quickly. Zelenskyy knows that if trump is elected the chances of american support go down dramatically. Ive been proud to stand with ukraine. I will continue to stand with ukraine and i will work to ensure ukraine prevails. We sat down for 25 minutes and talked about one single topic, the economy. Donald trump has a history of taking care of very rich people and then not really paying much attention to middle class families. Kamala harris is a onewoman economic wrecking ball. Is just not very serious about how he thinks about some of these issues. Something really special, youre going to love it, my new trump watches. Its getting very expensive to be a supporter of Donald Trump. Good evening. Once again i am stephanie Ruhle And Welcome to the nightcap. We are now just 39 days away from the election of the democratic nominee is leading into the issue of immigration. Vice president Kamala Harris stopped at the Southern Border during a trip to battle ground arizona. She called for more investment in securing the border and reminded voters that it was her opponent who killed the bipartisan bill that wouldve done just that. Meanwhile, former President Trump was focusing on ukraine, of all things, and is now promising to work out a deal to win the war. He met with President Zelenskyy at Trump Tower even as questions are growing about his support for the country. Earlier this week we heard both candidates weigh in with their plans and how theyre going to boost the economy. Keep in mind while all of that is happening, mail in voting is already underway in 26 states. Lets bring in our nightcap. Msnbcs Alex Witt is here. She is the host of Alex Wood reports every weekend. Tom rogers joins us, msnbc and cnbc founder. Christina greer is here, associate political Science Professor and [ inaudible ] noco hast of the podcast with Joanna And Samantha v. Ladies, im not going to go with latest first because tom, youre the only boy here. Yes, very intimidating. In your mind, where do you think this race stands . Well, i think it is close as could be but i think kamala has the momentum. I think the polls directionally are moving in the right direction both nationally and Swing States, but it is all within the margin of error so im not sure how much the polls mean. I think she had a great week. I think that the release of the economic report, the speech on the economy, your interview. I think all gave her some greater gravitas on the economic front, which i think was an area she was suffering from. I think a big win that did not get that much attention, nebraska got resolved. She could have won the blue wall if she had ended up not being able to win nebraskas second district. It couldve been all over if that was her path to victory through pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin. She still has to win the second district in nebraska. I hope people are not taking that for granted because without that she could still end up in an electoral College Tie and the Inflation Numbers that came in today, the last three months annual wise came in at 1. 7 below in terms of the fedS Primary metric pce at under 2 , and that is a big deal and so tame the inflation without the labor market crashing. The economy seems to be cruising into Election Day in a way that could be helpful. With the fed cutting rates its going to get cheaper to borrow. What do you think is the biggest issue . I think the biggest issue is Donald Trump selling his new watches. Im very excited to get one. For 100,000. Thats the gold one. I had breakfast this morning who with someone who spent time with Donald Trump at Trump Tower yesterday and he said he is very confident he is winning in the friend who met him and talk to him so they went through the polls. The polls are pretty much split, and Donald Trump feels very confident that he is actually going to pull through on this and i think, you know, hes looking at his watch and thinking it is time trump was back in the white house. Even if he was not confident, his whole brand is to project confidence, isnt it . Of course, and it has turned out to be very successful. I think we still completely underestimate the fact that he played Abbas On Television and of course in real life we had trump steaks, trump water, trump champaign, trump university. None of those work, but on television in a way that pharmaceutical ads are full of people in a white coat to say im not a doctor but i play one on television and people strangely find it authoritative. I go through this day in and day out, especially when you think about trumps base voters, his core voters, originally bluecollar workers who trump connected with on an emotional level but in terms of policy, it was the biden administration who delivered yet trump has hung on to those voters and others and he continues to pull better than harris does on issues related to the economy. You just said we are rolling into a strong economy. Yet Donald Trump, bankrupt six times. His Boss Persona and i agree, it is a character on tv, plays for him. Right but he is a charismatic character. He is very charming even if you dont like what he says. To paraphrase lbj if you can convince the poorest white man that he is better than the negro, you can pick hiS Pockets all day long. Trump taps into this thing that people need to feel that they are better than others so that his work for him. Im cautiously optimistic about this race in the sense that democrats won the popular vote. We have seen it time and time again. It is just will they win the electoral College Vote . We are one of the last few democracies that has not had a woman in power. We know many people would never prefer a woman of color. We know that white women do not work for the democratic party candidate. If only done so since we started collecting data, they have only done so twice, lbj and second Term Bill clinton, so we Cant Bank on this white female vote. They did not come out for Barack Obama and they did not come out for Hillary Clinton so hopefully something with this amazing rollout we seen since january 20th, Tim Walz has been a fantastic addition trying to tap into this Joy Sentiment and reverse the Cesspool Trump has excavated the past few years, it works in the popular vote. Im hopeful that in wisconsin, in michigan, in pennsylvania, north carolina, virginia, arizona, nebraska even in florida, you name it, im hoping they will turn that tide. Doesnt Tim Walz also cool this idea that is not rooted in truth, that, is just so well that democrats are so progressive when she is flanked by coach walls, its hard to make that argument. Let me also say something i am encouraged by. Im sure you are familiar with the study that came out that suggested every time since 1984 that the S P 500 starts one way on August 1 and then at The End of october, it is ahead. The incumbent party has won. Im encouraged because i was looking up the numbers. You probably know this by heart, but August 1st the S P 500 was at 5446. Today it closed at 5738. That is a huge swing. If it keeps going that way, you know, polls aside when you talk about the economy, that has been the most accurate predictor. Very interesting article in Politico Today about pennsylvania where biden pulled very strongly and obviously performed very strongly. Catholic, complicated in terms of abortion were obviously Kamala Harris does appear, to your point, much more west coast. It is much more you know, they have much more problems. Of course. But actually in some of the more rural areas, abortion is still very much a sticking point. In pennsylvania, republicans have registered a lot more people this cycle than democrats have, and there is an old State And Kamala is not doing well among older voters, particularly, old white men. Hopefully walls can help with that but going to the issue of trump, the one thing we know is hes got a ceiling. Even in the Swing States at the ceiling. A 47, something 48 ceiling so the only way he wins is if there is somebody on the ballot who takes his opponent down below 50 , and while we may have the first Woman President in the united states, we may also have the same Woman Spoiler who killed it for Hillary Clinton in 2016, and that is Jill Stein is on the ballot in all the Swing States, and when you look at what an independent Thirdparty Candidate takes, it is always one to 2 of the vote. You have Cornel West on wisconsin and north carolina. You cant dismiss, and Swing States where the margin could only be one or 2 , that these candidates could drain one or 2 . Thats going to come right out of kamala and i am extremely concerned that there is just not enough focus on if you vote for a Third Party you are voting for Donald Trump. Theyve got to get on that with a digital, targeted campaign right away. We know its not going to be Rfk Junior because shes too busy taking selfies and sending them to journalists. I think we need to remember though, everyone goes to the polls for economic issues. Latinos dont go for immigration. Black people dont go for social race and social justice. It is economic issues and what we have seen this one abortion is on the ballot democrats win because that is an economic issue, so hopefully democrats can start to chip away at not just women but also helping men understand this is an economic issue, as well. Back to joe on his Boss Persona point. In the last couple of days i have said she needs to get out there and talk more about the economy and just this morning Joe Scarborough said this isnt about policy, its about how people feel but its not about the 85 page policy. It is about her getting out there as a boss, and having people see that because in the last two weeks i keep meeting with different Wall Street guys who said that what does she run . And i said what has he not run into the ground . Its also about celebrity and Donald Trump has extraordinary celebrity. I think you are completely right when you said that he has charisma. I think he has less charisma than he did. I think he has impacted and he has lost his sense of humor. He used to be very funny. You said charming, and that is gone. He was much wittier. [ inaudible ] he brought character to politics in a way that we just havent seen before because he understands celebrity culture. I definitely think the thing we have all underplayed is the fact that he has literally been the victim of two attempted assassinations. Im sure that has had an impact. First of all, im sure 90 of people who have been shot at get posttraumatic stress disorder. Usually in the two months after it happens. You get through the initial shock of it then you begin to start feeling. But not so traumatized that he could not watch a Crypto Exchange and start selling silver coins. We dont know whether or not actually he is at home his sort of rocking back and forth wondering if he wants to do this. The fact that he announced this week he wasnt going to be Playing Golf on his Golf Courses was also interesting. As Andrew Sullivan has said, this choice iS Pretty easy this year. We have a mentally ill candidate and those things may have added to his mental condition but we do have a mentally ill candidate versus the same candidate in versus out to make that choice accordingly and there are a lot of issues on policy. There are a lot of things we can talk about in terms of the difference between the biden administration and the trump administration, but his attitude, Outlook And Conduct do not suggest somebody who is healthy in a mental state. Can we go back to this other point to anna just made, the Celebrity Factor . We all watch the debate. You and i both covered the debate. She has it. The one thing i took away from the debate, she beat him. It was the first time i saw another politician beat him in the business of television. She performed and captivated All Of Us flawlessly. She had herself out there more not just at rallies and events, but, and im not saying sitting down interviews to get grilled, but let people see her swagger because shes got it. Absolutely has it and i think that is one of her major strings. We talk about her candidates in terms of Trump Lack of character. She exudes character, as well. I love the fact that she was about as attorney general. The district attorney. She haS Prosecuted one of my favorite when she came out with at the beginning was i know who Donald Trump is, and shes got to show more of that and not be so consumed with the sit down interviews. Theyre very popular. Yours was great. We did need to get her on the economy and you did a great job of doing that but i think getting her personality out there, showing that she is a boss, that she can handle anything. This is what all the international leaders are saying right now about what theyve seen from her. We have heard it all echoed from the United Nations that she is somebody who can handle pretty much anything. Shes going to think it through carefully, you know, intelligently, and shes going to come up with some sort of an answer or say lets work together on this. She is so impressive that way. What you think are going to the border now leaning into immigration because Donald Trump occupies the whole Immigration Line and talks about a day in and day out in much of what he says is not true. Four of his five children are children of immigrants but he never mentions that. He doesnt mean those kind of immigrants. Of course, right. His idea of americannest is whiteness. Its difficult for Kamala Harris to come out with these taccone and we need to close the border. That is not what needs to happen. We know we are a nation of immigrants and we have always had difficulties incorporating immigrants in overtime. No immigrant has come here and been welcomed with open arms. It has never been the case. This is an issue i think is a moderate issue where there is a lot of different colors of blue and the democratic party so people like the idea, many people like it in theory but in practice like school or my neighborhood, what do jobs look like and obviously with Donald Trump trying to create a Wedge Issue between africanamericans and immigrants that is an old trope. Heres the thing. All politics are local so you have to be sure, manhattan conversation may not look like a long Island Conversation and this is what i think democrats slowly but surely are getting better surrogates to help articulate, what does i dont like the phrase migrant crisis. It is not a crisis. We have people who are coming. We need to ask ourselves what foreign policies we are doing there causing some of the people who need to, to the united states. I think Tim Walz is a great articulator. He is getting this dad, uncle, Grandpa Vibe to help us detangler some of these complicated issues, especially for white americans were like im not racist but i do have some questions and concerns. We had a very good piece in the beast of this week by Adrian Wenner about what he called the shy trump Voters Syndrome which is to your point about the poles being so close. People just dont want to admit it. They know hes a bad guy. They know they should vote for something that is about a more Coherent Society but actually when it comes to it, they feel that on the economy and on immigration, he is their guy. They just dont want to admit it. So they are shy Trump Voters and i think they dont show up in the polls. There was a survey that came out this week that said that 65 of people now dont feel safe talking about politics at work. Its the 21st century bradley effect. As he always said, i am the Silent Majority and so we are seeing a 2. 0 version of that. You cant forget the cut peoples taxes. He cut individuals taxes and that expired next year and there are scores of people going ahead politics. I dont know what any of this is but i got my taxes cut. That is what they are deciding on. I dont think undecided voters in the Swing States are the ones who are going to decide on immigration. If you are voting on immigration, youve already decided youre voting for Donald Trump. I dont really think that issue is up for grabs. I think it iS Pocketbook and personality. TaxeS Play into that. Inflation plays into that, the state of the economy as relates to whether it is improving, Mortgage Rates going down. Everything, is saying about economic policy in terms of starting small businesses, housing opportunities. I think those are the issues at The End of the day with undecided voters, that it comes down to. Do you believe there are undecided voters or is it really about voted voter turnout. I think there are a few undecided voters but there are so few it is about turnout. I want to add on to what you were saying. Dont you think the issue of abortion, and i hate even phrasing it that way, the issue of a woman being able to choose what she does with her body, i think that is something that is going to generate a lot of women to get out to the polls and i think sometimes democratS Pointed the wrong way because they will say something about a womans right to have an abortion. Just say a womans right to decide what she does with her body. That is what it boils down to. That is an economic issue, though. If youre adding someone else to your family and you said i am not prepared i must be able to make this choice economically whether or not i can do this. The women that have to leave state after state to go in the can afford it. She did something great this week on abortion that really showed how serious she was because there is no way you can restore Roe V. Wade legislatively unless you are willing to get rid of the Filibuster Rule in the senate and she said she was open to that and that showed a degree of commitment to this issue, depolarizing. It would probably make sure there was deadlock in congress on every other issue but if the democrats hold the senate and she really wants to follow through on this issue, she showed she was tough enough in her thought to do that. Christina said something that had me scratching my head, joanna when you said there are many women in this country throughout history who are just not going to pull the lever for a woman. Earlier this week Donald Trump got out there and said women are worse off. There are more detroit depressed. They are poorer in the last four years. I will be the protector of women. Yes, i know, but do you think there are lots of women in this country, traditional women who are going im not voting for a woman. I dont feel safe with a woman. Yes, a man in office, even that guy, is a protector. I cant even believe i said that. I think even his wife does not believe he is a protector which is why she has moved cities and states. Baron is now at new York University and milan it has moved back as far as we know, to Trump Tower, so she doesnt want anything to do with him but again, he played this kind of big successful man on television and most people are not as engaged as everybody around this table. They are not living and breathing it like we are and i think there are lots of undecided voters. I meet people all the time his seo, i just dont have enough information yet, and im like what more do you need . Are they really telling you the truth . Every morning i turn into a Broadcast Mark Halperin runs and you would be amazed how many smart, articulate people are still saying they dont know who theyre going to vote for. You just said you talk to people on Wall Street. Yes, but i dont believe them. Those people i talked to on Wall Street really are just looking for every possible reason to vote for Donald Trump. Shy Trump Voters. There saying they dont have enough information because their daughter and the wife and her educated son is saying are you kidding me . That none that im talking to is going well, i just not no im not going to get a Wealth Tax so i dont have enough information. Its the mental gymnastics we see people perform every time there is a Woman Or Person of color at the top of the ticket. Donald trump, what are your policies or shes done nothing as bp. Im sorry, what is the role of the bp. Can you list what Mike Pence is done or Dan Quayle . I knew Dan Quayle was coming up. Nobody is going anywhere. When we come back we are going to have a look ahead. We are days away from the first Vice President ial debate. What we can expect tim Walz And Jd vance and we will have other things going down next week as well and more of my interview with Vice President harris when the nightcap in the 11th Hour continues. Arexvy is a vaccine used to prevent lower Respiratory Disease from rsv in people 60 years and older. Rsv can be serious for those over 60, including those with asthma, diabetes, copd and certain other conditions. But im protected. Arexvy iS Proven to be over 82 effective in preventing lower Respiratory Disease from rsv and over 94 effective in those with these health conditions. Arexvy does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients. 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Donald trump goes and bladders and uses very elementary language and says the same thing over and over again and then gets mixed up because hes going to be looking for sharks and electric batteries off the boat so i think its going to be an interesting debate. I think Jd Vance is going to bring it. I think hes going to do a better job than we anticipate. I dont underestimate Tim Walz, but tim is going to have to hold his feet to the fire. If i am walz, i start the debate by saying Jd Vance and i are in complete agreement that trump failed to deliver on his economic promises. I dont think we need to debate any further. An adviser. Lets talk about the new York City mayor. Eric adams. What are we in for . We are in for a long road. I dont see Eric Adams resigning anytime soon. Its like who is running new York City at thiS Point with the amount of people being investigated or taken down . To be fair, weve had a lot of open positions at the top. Commissioners are resigning like rats jumping off the titanic however we cannot estimate the number of thousands of dedicated new York City government employees who keep the seed city running. Its always frustrating because the citizens lose out when there is chaos at the top. Theres always a lack of leadership when that happens. However, we have dedicated employees who actually know how to run these agencies, and we will keep the ship moving. It would be nice, though, to have a mayor who is completely focused. How serious are these charges . Listen, i would want them. However, i dont know whether or not voting new yorkers, of which there are a very small percentage of the eligible population that bothers to turn out for municipal elections, whether they are paying attention. This iS Pay to play. Sadly, Corruption And Scandal like this has become very commonplace. After having Donald Trump, why would Eric Adams resign . The new York State politics we have a long history of folk that doesnt mean its okay. It does not but we keep talking about pocketbook issues. Did you possibly defraud taxpayers . Thats going to be a complicated narrative that the fdny in the Eastern District have to present to voters but Eric Adams could say, why would i resign if the Man Running for the presidency is already convicted . Is going to literally play the trump card. Why would you . He already is. This is also the thing. We are running up against the clock. On November 5th of Donald Trump somehow wins this election we do know we will have a turnover in the fdny and the Eastern District in this case could very well just go away so Eric Adams is going to bide his time as long as he can. These are very serious allegations. We are having raids on top aides and deputy mayors. It is embarrassing for the city of new york. It is a position we hoped we would not be in. Its a position many of us thought we would be in if we elected Eric Adams as mayor of new York City. Somebody else is having a very difficult week. The Daily Beast has done a ton of reporting. What is your take on the [ inaudible ] situation, where are we headed . Are talking about his Cellmate Sam bankmanfried . We have done a lot of reporting on this. A lot of it about three months ago we ran a report, by two excellent reporters about what a bully he was at work and actually, i spoke to one of the very senior executives who worked with him who had been very successful in a very well known company and had been very nervous about going to work for him because she had heard, you know, stories, so one of her arrangements with the contract was that he was not allowed to call her between 11 00 at night and 5 00 in the morning because that is when she was sleeping, but that is when actually he gets going, so he goes to bed at 5 00 in the morning, or at least the time [ inaudible ] she was actually running it. He was not allowed to call her between 11 00 and 5 00 because she, like a normal person, was asleep, and he was out clubbing. She said that she knew all sorts of stuff was going down but she did not have this you know, she did not have this insight but the bullying that was going on was terrible and in fact, we have another piece coming up which i think iS Posting now, about someone who went to a party and very quickly realized she was been drugged and just passed out. Went to the local private hospital and it was absolutely clear that they were very familiar with this happening at his house and that this was not the first time this had happened. The fact that you are seeing a lot of people talked about it, they knew it before taking a job this woman had to put parameters in place to keep herself safe. It sounds like a Harvey Weinstein Thing again. Why is this happening . Why do we continue to allow this kind of thing to happen . I mean, [ inaudible ] celebrities that give them air cover. You know, it was only a year ago that he launched his Coach Or Collection on the steps of the met gala and there he is with in the winter. There are the pictures with leo dicaprio. There are the pictures with asked Jen Kutcher who talked about hiS Parties. Weve got to go to commercial. Trust me, were going to talk about it during the commercial and youre going to wish you were still here. Everybody is staying put. When we come back its time for mvps in the 11th Hour in the nightcap continue. We will be right back. Tcap con. We will be right back. man these men of means with their silver spoons. What will become of them when they discover robinhood gold allows others to earn their very liberal rates on idle cash. They would descend into chaos. Its time for everybodys mvp. Alex, yours . [ inaudible ] hoda kotb. This is a woman who had her children, became a mother later in life and she said look, im at the top crust of my wave. Im here at the top and im going to step aside and focus on my children and my mom and i really respect her. Whos going to give up a position on the today show, please. I say the entire wnba. The amount of money they are bringing in to cities, the amount of excitement they have for families. The tickets are still affordable in most places. It is going to be a Brandnew Generation and i just love seeing women at the top of their game, you know, it is not just about sports anymore. We are having hard conversations about Gender And Race and pay equity and what it means to be a female athlete and the female businesswomen and people who are just taking charge and im excited. Number one, Stephanie Ruhle forgetting the interview of the week. Number two, volodymyr zelenskyy. All the Heads Of State were here in new york this week. He dominated. He showed what we need to do to continue to fight for democracy around the world is hopefully we have an Election Year supportive of our own pro Democracy Candidate Kamala Harris, but he stood up to the world and made us remember that there is something far more important than many of the domestic issues we rankle about. I continue to be intrigued by melania. My countdown is the countdown to her but been published on october the eighth. Im trying to get a hold of the copy without having to pay for it. Do you really think Theres Something extraordinary in there . It should be i am rather hoping that apparently there is a large discussion in there about all the nude photos and i am hoping that libraries in florida decide to ban it. Okay, my mvp of the week is mark cuban. He officially endorsed Kamala Harris and he didnt just say she has my vote and post a picture. Here is why i think his Celebrity Endorsement is different. He came out swinging. He went on podcast. He went on Fox News and made the economic case for businesS People to support harris but i thought the most interesting thing he said this week was on twitter, where he talked about what the Mainstream Media really is, and he said, it is the right. The biggest Tv News shows are on fox. The top 10 podcast have a bunch of rightleaning shows. Sinclair broadcasting on smart Tv Stations than anyone in salem is all rightleaning so conservative media is Mainstream Media so for all the criticism about Mainstream Media, look closely. A whole lot of it is right wing. All right, gang. That is it for us. We are going to take a quick break. I absolutely loved having you all here. When we come back im going to share more of my Oneonone Interview with the Vice President when the Device Nightcap continues. Announcer what if you could whiten your teeth by simply brushing your teeth . 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Allinone Product Call now to receive a free Shower Package Plus 15 off your brand new Safe Step walkin tub. Before i let you go tonight, i want to share more of my interview with Vice President Kamala Harris. Can i ask you about terrorists because you just mentioned it. It is not just with one company. Donald trumps Big Idea is this broadbased tariffs across the board. You and many others have said that would be not only disastrous but a direct tax on the american consumer. It would be a Sales Tax on the american people. The independent economists have already measured this. The Sales Tax of doing 20 tariffs on all imports he has described would be a 20 Sales Tax in essence on basic necessities for the Average American worker, Average American family totaling almost 4000 a year. That is no small matter. Here in pittsburgh when im talking to a group of folks who work here, who live here and they here it might be 4000 more a year for them, look, people can afford that. Tariffs are not unique to former President Trump. President biden has tariffs in place and is looking to potentially implement more. Where do you come out on is there a good tariff, a bad tariff . Part of it is you dont just throw around the idea of tariffs across the board and that iS Part of the problem with Donald Trump. I say this in all sincerity, he is just not very serious about how he thinks about some of these issues and one must be serious, and have a plan, a real plan that is not just about some Talking Point Ending in an exclamation at a political rally, but actually putting the thought into what would be the return on the investment, what would be the economic impact on everyday people and when you look at my plans, you will see what those benefits will be. 25,000 down Payment Assistance for firsttime homebuyers. You know what that means . That you are creating the ability of that working person to build intergenerational wealth. Doing the work of the 6000 child tax credit. Doing the work of a 15,000 Tax Deduction for firsttime small businesses, startups. Thats a real plan. It is a real plan because right now its about paying attention to the detail and being serious about it. I am serious about my enthusiasm for small businesses in my belief and what they will do aS Part of americas economic engine. Also still working looking at the fact that right now the Tax Deduction is 5000. Nobody can start a business with 5000, very few cancel im extending it to 50,000 Tax Deduction for startups to generate the Generation And Ambition of the ideas that are present and among us but need the fuel to be able to achieve the goal. S Plan is not serious when you lay it out like that, but a seriouS Problem over the last few years has been inflation. Luckily, it is cooling but prices are still high. You said you want to take this on by going after those who engage in Price Gouging. But, as somebody who supports free markets, who is a capitalist, how do you go after Price Gouging without implementing Price Controls . Once we get in the zone, people start to get worried and they say i dont know what she stands for. So, just to be very frank, i am never going to apologize for going after companies and corporations that take advantage of the desperation of the american people and as attorney general, i saw this happen. In the midst of an emergency, whether it be in extreme Weather Event or even the pandemic we saw it where those few companies, not the majority, not most, but those few companies that would take advantage of the desperation of people and checkup prices. Yeah, im going to go after them. Yes, im going to go after them, and that iS Part of a much more comprehensive plan on what we can do to bring down the cost of living, including housing, including the everyday needs of the american people. I want to just ask you about a little job in a big job. The first one, just a fact check. There is no such thing as a little job. Fair. Your opponent almost every day seems to be talking about this so i just want to ask you yes or no. At any point in your life have you served two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a Sesame Seed Bun working at a mcdonalds . Yes or no. Thats it. I have, but it was not a small job. Then let me ask about a big job. To your point if you dont mind before you get to the big job, part of the reason i even talk about having worked at mcdonalds is because there are people who work at mcdonalds in our country who are trying to raise a family. I worked there as a student. I was a kid. There are people who work there and try to raise families and pay rent on that in part of the difference between me and my opponent includes her perspective on the needs of the american people and what our responsibility then is to meet those needs. To the big job. Youve laid out policy in great detail, but the economy is an unpredictable beast, and you are running for a job that takes extraordinary instinct in gods. What is the last time you had to make a Gut Decision . This year is very prescribed, its very controlled. Probably the biggest good decision i have made most recently is to choose my running mate. Yeah. There were lots of good, incredible candidates, and ultimately, that came down to a Gut Decision. I know i am out of time but i just want ask you a question for my gut because today we are talking about the economy, and people dont think often about reproductive rights being an economic issue, but it is. A Womans Ability to plan her future, her education, her life. Today and in the last few days Donald Trump keeps talking about that and how in overturning Roe V wade he helped women, he protected women. He says they are miserable today, they are poorer today. Theyre more vulnerable today. He said he will be the protector of women if elected. Can you respond to that . So, Donald Trump is also the person who said women should be punished for exercising a decision that they rightly should be able to make about their own body in the future. So, i think we would all agree that as a result of that perspective that he has about women, he also then chose three members of the United States Supreme Court who did as he intended, undid the protections of Roe V. Wade and now in state after state is the laws being passed that do punish women. Laws that i mean most recently, a heartbreaking story resulted in a young woman dying, a mother of a sixyearold. Heartwrenching stories. And, that is for the listener, much less their family. So look, i think the thing about Donald Trump is that, you know, i dont think the women of america need him to say hes going to protect them. The women of america need him to trust them. Can we trust them . Yes. Yes. I am not perfect, but i will tell you i am always going to put the needs of the people first. Manor Vice President , thank you for your time today. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for watching, and remember in case you are busy not paying attention, you can catch the nightcap again on saturdays at 11 00 p. M. Eastern right here on msnbc and coming up on sunday, only this sunday, join our friends for the msnbc special black women in America Road to 2024. You can check it out sunday at 9 00 p. M. Eastern on msnbc or stranded on peacock but for now, i am signing off. From all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news. Thanks for staying up late with me. I will see you at The End of monday. Id, oh, mom, lisas missing. What do you mean lisas missing . This is just unfathomable. She cant be missing. We started an immediate search of the surrounding area