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Good to be with you. Im katy tur. We have Breaking News out of lebanon. Any moment from now, Vice President , you know what, thats the wrong script. We do have Breaking News out of lebanon where israel just struck the headquarters of hezbollah. U. S. Designated terror group. You can see this in video that the strike was big, hitting a building in southern beirut. An israeli official tells Nbc News that the target was the iranbacked leader, Hassan Nasrallah. It wasnt clear whether he had been killed. The strike had interesting timing, launched just an hour after prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said this to the United Nations. They endanger their own people. They put a missile in every kitchen, a rocket in every garage. I said to the people of lebanon this week, get out of the Death Trap that hezbollah has put you in. Dont let Nasrallah Drag Lebanon into the abyss. Were not at war with you. Were at war with hezbollah, which has hijacked your country and threatens to destroy ours. As long as hezbollah chooses the path of war, israel has no Choice And Israel has every right to remove this threat and return our citizens to their homes safely, and thats exactly what were doing. It is not clear, if the timing is linked, but they did happen quite close to each other, the speech and the strike. Netanyahu made no mention, by the way, of the proposed Cease Fire Deal the u. S. Tried to negotiate to bring calm to the countrys northern border. As we speak, lebanese Rescue Crews are at the Blast Site looking for survivors. Last hour, we saw them pull out at least a few children from the rubble there. Those children looked to be okay. Joining us now, Nbc News international correspondent Matt Bradley in beirut. If they were able to get nunes nasrallah, and that is a big if, how big of a deal would it be . Reporter a massive deal. This is the man whos a Load Star not just for hezbollah but the global resistance against israel, any group that champions armed resistance against israel sees not hamas, normally, but hezbollah as their leading force. They have styled themselves as sort of the champions of the third world, the developing world against colonialism. Hassan nasrallah is a larger than Life Character for political entities and persuasion. This would be not just a big deal for here in lebanon, but also for really kind of all over the world. And again, this would also spark an enormous backlash. And, again, not just here from hezbollah, but from iran itself who might actually then feel compelled to intervene. It was a couple of days ago we heard from axios reported this, that hezbollah had tried to ask iran to intervene directly to help them and to attack israel directly, just as we saw an exchange of fire in april against israel and iran. That was unprecedented. Iran rebuffed hezbollah, said the time isnt right. They may find if Hassan Nasrallah has been killed, the time is right for them to strike. That would bring not just lebanon and israel into a growing war which we have been seeing, it would internationalize the conflict in a way that the Middle East might not have seen before. Ever since the foundation of israel back in 1948, which was deeply destabilizing. This has always been a major risk, always been an eventuality that the entire region, the entire world dreads. That could happen if we see Hassan Nasrallah was killed. There would be a lot of violence, i believe in the streets of lebanon, and possibly in beirut. This would be a major, major shift for lebanese politics pause while we talk about hezbollah as a formidable fighting force, and it is the main benefactor of weapons, organization, of financing, it has a large stake in lebanese politics, which is functionally, if not, you know, practically, a democracy. They have seats in the parliament. They have min ministerial positions. Theyre the ones propping up the Prime Minister, which is the only vestige of a real government that lebanon has. Hezbollah is a state within a state, or more accurately, a state within a failed state because the state in lebanon, we saw this other the past couple of weeks, when we have seen the fighting increasing, and we have seen internally displace peoples crisis, exacerbating the State Hasnt really played that big of a role, not like you would expect a normal state to play. Thats because hezbollah has such a strong rule. Groups, which are shiite leaning groups, they have a major role. Other groups, other, you know, religious organizations have a big role. The lebanese state relies on hezbollah to allow them to exist. So for its leader to be killed that would be a Body Blow to this country and its politics. Hezbollah fired a missile into Tel Aviv the other day, the houthis did, i think, last anything, both of them were intercepted. Could hezbollah fire more missiles into central israel to Tel Aviv, which is a big deal. Its the first time they did it was just the other day, without the north of iran . Reporter we dont know. Thats always been the question here, the question for all of irans proxy groups, and they call this the access of resistance, the sort of informal confederation of different groups, and in some cases, a state, like some consider syria to be part of the access of resistance. Its unclear to what extent each of these different groups, the houthis in yemen, hamas in the strip, hezbollah in lebanon, and various fighting forces in syria and iraq, backed by iran. Its unclear to what Extent Iran controls them or to what extent they have Input Or Access to their own local, you know, local needs, so, you know, whether or not these groups are going to be able to act on their own or whether or not its iran thats pulling the string behind them, thats unclear. But for all of those groups, it is hezbollah that is closest to teheran by far. Like i said, they benefit the most from iranian sponsorship. They have written into their charter that they sort of owe allegiance to iran. If you go to southern lebanon, you can find grocery stores that are stocked with products that are labeled in persian because theyre coming from iran because iran runs hospitals, religious organizations here. It has such a heavy hand, not only in hezbollah territory, but within lebanese politics itself, that it is almost inseparable from lebanon. Thats something a lot of people here, especially people who arent shiite, christian, they would like to see hezbollah and Iran Unclench its fist on lebanon, and they are treading the reaction thats coming, possibly soon, and more so than we have seen so far from the israelis. They might not say publicly they resent hezbollah dragging into the war, with the Military Force to the south, katy. Matt, Thank You. Lets bring in nbc News Keir simmons to the conversation. Were talking about hezbollah, israel, hamas, obviously. Theres also other news on the ukrainian front. President zelenskyy was at the white House Yesterday Meeting with president biden and vp Kamala Harris. Donald trump was on the Campaign Trail Yesterday denigrating zelenskyy, saying zelenskyy hadnt been nice to him. It seemed to be that the two men were not going to meet. Today we found out there was a meeting between Donald Trump and zelenskyy, and that meeting happened at trump tower. What can you tell us about it . Reporter that meeting took place, and President Zelenskyy clearly wanted it very much. He wrote a letter to President Trump asking for the meeting. It came after, as you say, really a diplomatic disaster, frankly for ukraine in past few days where President Zelenskyy gave an interview to the New Yorker talking about j. D. Vance is too radical, and he questioned whether former President Trump would be able to end the war. He needed to try to rectify that because, i mean, any government, anywhere in the world, let alone a government like ukraine in the middle of a fight for an existential fight for its existence will tell you you dont get on one side in an american election, particularly a nation like this, we dont know which side is going to win, who will be president in january. We know of course theres a clear message from former President Trump that he has big questions about whether or not to continue to fund ukraine. The 61 Billion that the biden administration has been funneling towards ukraine with permission from congress. That will run out at some point. Now, the question is whether or not this meeting shifted things. Certainly former President Trump still saying that he believes that he can bring peace to russia, and ukraine. Not saying, though, how hes going to resolve the question of territory, which of course the is fundamental question in all of this. And President Zelenskyy still has the view that he wants russia that ukraine wants russia to return to the internationally recognized borders, going back to 2014. So sort of a standoff, but a little bit of understanding, i suppose you would say. Ill be honest, katy, going back months, i have been hearing from republicans on The Hill that they have felt as if ukrainians have lent more towards the democrats and more towards the biden administration and that has frustrated and annoyed them even, and i think this was kind of the lid coming off that, and President Zelenskyy now trying to put that back on again. I should just say before i let you go, katy, just in terms of the situation there in lebanon, because i think all of the attention now will focus there, if that is if Hassan Nasrallah has been killed, Benjamin Netanyahus Speech here at the United Nations now, i think we all read that now as with some messages. He had a message for iran to say if you strike us, we can strike you anywhere. He said the tyrants of teheran, if you hit us, we will hit back. And he also had a message for Saudi Arabia saying, we will deal with you at some point in the future. I think now if Hassan Nasrallah has been killed, that can be read as a message from the Prime Minister of israel to iran which will now be considering whether it has to get fully into this in a kinetic way, as a message to iran not to do that, and a message to the arabs not to get involved in any sense beyond the message they have been sending, support for the palestinians, that kind of thing. Whether or not, though, that strike was deliberately timed for the end of Prime Minister netanyahus speech, its unlikely. Its more likely that Israel Bottom some intelligence and acted on it, and the timing was coincidental. I will mention that netanyahu called the u. N. An antisemitic swamp, that its deeply embedded, the antisemitism within the u. N. And within the member nations. Keir simmons, Thank You very much, Matt Bradley, Thank You very much. Former Congresswoman And Chair on the commission on national defense strategy, jayne harman. The u. S. Is in a tricky spot right now. The Middle East is on the edge. Israel seems to be no too worried about heightening the tensions, Hezbollah Isnt backing down. Hamas, and sinwar are not going to be giving up the fight. It seems sinwar would be willing to sacrifice the entire population of gaza, and the u. S. Is watching on the sidelines to see what happens next. What do we do . What is the best interests of the united states . The best interest of the united states is to prevent All Out War in the Middle East, and that i know the biden administration is intently Working On. Is it being successful right now . No. It is not successful. The proposals for a Cease Fire in gaza and the newer proposals for a Cease Fire in lebanon have not succeeded. Let me mention that its almost the anniversary of october 11. And 100 hostages if they are still alive, are in Harms Way, and were barely talking about that. And theres no strategy thats working to get them back. That always was a tentative of israeli Foreign Policy to recover its hostages, several of whom are american. By the way, on this, i was in at that border in 2006 when the Lebanonisrael War broke out. I was the senior democrat on the house intention committee, and we literally saw the rockets fly overhead. It has been true since then that hezbollah in a systematic way has been terrorizing northern israel. It is not a surprise that israel is finally responding in a bigger way. My question is, whats the strategy . If they get nasrallah, thats a good idea, but whats the strategy for preventing All Out War. Are they certain they will have allies and equipment, and Trade Craft to defend against a war with iran, which could be coming to a theater next week. The question on allies, i think, is really important because you talk about how hezbollah has made it impossible for israel to have people living on the northern border, and its been pretty tense for a while, certainly after October 7th, it got worse. 60,000 displaced, a lot of political pressure to get folks safely back home, allow them to carry on their lives. At the same time, you look at the images out of lebanon today, and the kids being pulled from the rubble, not to mention the images that we have been seeing for a year now out of gaza, and those are images that i would imagine are iran, and hezbollah and hamas feel good about, its showing the Pain And Suffering of individuals, a lot of women and children. And because of that, the israelis have had a hard time, politically speaking, around the world. A lot of allies questioning what theyre doing, and how theyre doing it. How does israel in one sense protect its safety, its right to exist, while also not alienating itself from the world . Well, its doing the former, sort of, the latter, not so well. And lets remember, that Information And Disinformation is easily weaponized and that happened right after the heinous, unprovoked attack last October 7th, and israel was back footed by that, and i dont think it had a good strategy to employ after that, although it had a right to defend itself. The people in South Lebanon have been living with rockets in their basements for 18 years. I dont think its willingly in most cases, but those rockets were dumb rockets 18 years ago. Now they have precisionguided targeting on them. And the missi that was shot toward israel yesterday, i guess it was yesterday, and shot town could be one of many. Israel has very good Air Defense systems. We all know this, but the chance of one missile, two missiles striking a major city in israel is significant, so then what . And im agreeing with you that the united states wants to help you, wants to tamp this down. Does want to protect its oldest ally in the region, israel, does agree that October 7th was provoked. Now, what, what is the strategy for israels response, and shouldnt we be thinking about, we the united states who have people in Harms Way in the region, too, and hostages in gaza be thinking about what interests we have to protect our folks and to prevent a Wilder War in the world. Its ironic that all of this is happening while the u. N. Is meeting. The u. N. Which was supposed to be the ambassador Chan Bastian recognizing the territorial border of each other. Its good they met with trump, and i think she has to win on his terms, and we have to make sure that protection is in iran once there is a deal that ukraine strikes, not that we strike. And i think ukraine belonging to nato, once that deal is struck is a very good idea and the best Insurance Policy possible. Jane harmon, Thank You. 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Right now in erwin, tennessee, more than 50 patients and staff are trapped on the roof of the county hospital. Tennessee Emergency Management and the national guard are involved trying to get them off of that roof. Rescue them. In florida, hundreds have been rescued already, up and down the west coast. In Pinellas County, you can see rescuers searching for stranded residents by boat as a number of houses were on fire, under water and still on fire. The storm has been downgraded to a tropical depression. The heavy rainfall is leading to a lot of flooding across georgia, tennessee and the carolinas. Look at atlanta right now, who else neighborhoods are under water. Officials have triggered evacuations and are currently conducting Water Rescues out there. Joining us now from atlanta, Nbc News Correspondent priya sridhar, so Water Rescues in atlanta, nowhere near landfall, how is the city doing . Reporter absolutely. Im standing in one of several neighborhoods that as you can see is still very much submerged. If you take a look at that mailbox and the vehicle behind me there, you can see just how high the water is right now. We flew a drone over this neighborhood not too long ago, and we saw homeowners at the end of this road actually trying to get water out of their house through the windows. We talked to one homeowner to my right who said that his yard is basically in 15 to 20 feet of water. And thats really what prompted a lot of residents in neighborhoods like this one to leave their houses overnight, when they realized that the flooding was happening. Others stayed behind and they are stranded inside of their homes. Were seeing swift Water Rescues make it from House To house. We saw Fire Crews knocking on doors overnight, trying to tell people to evacuate before it got too bad. You mentioned, for some people, this was life threatening, 11 fatalities in georgia. Most of those were a result of downed trees. We saw 50 miles per hour winds, trees falling on homes and also on cars, and all of those trees falling also caused A Million people here in georgia to lose their power. No word yet on just when the power will be restored, and now crews are going around, including about A Thousand Georgia Guardsmen to try to remove debris and begin the Recovery Efforts here. Out of curiosity, what neighborhood are you in . Reporter im in buckhead, and were close to the peach tree creek. Its 3 feet above Flood Levels right now. Thats whats causing this community to get flooded. For those familiar with atlanta, were seeing flooding occur on the northern part of atlanta, next to sandy springs, as a result of another creek, the Nancy Creek which got pounded by water. It wasnt just helene, its been raining in atlanta since bend from a completely unrelated storm event, so we are seeing the most rainfall here in atlanta that we have seen in 150 years. 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Joining us now, dave wasserman, does she have room to move her numbers on immigration . She does, and shes doing the politically smart thing by proposing stricter asylum rules, and trump has a pretty easy answer to this, or should have an easy answer to this. Why didnt they to it three and a half years ago, and at the same time, it speaks to how much Donald Trump has stepped on his own message here. Rather than putting the focus on the biden administration, when the conversation is about eating cats and dogs, it reminds voters what they dont like about him. Biden was trailing by 30 points on immigration in the early summer. In the latest nbc poll, obviously shes narrowed the gap to 20. In our Battleground State in august it was 14, and in some f the partial day that, she has narrowed the gap further on the question. She doesnt need to draw even. She needs to get in a better place and get Cost Of Living and inflation, that differential into a better place to allow her Personality Traits where she has an advantage over trump, to compensate for that, and put her over the finish line. What do you think of the polling out of arizona right now . Obviously immigration is a big issue there. She spent so much time, though, in the upper midwest, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, a lot of the campaigns efforts are stationed in those three places. Arizona is a state the democrats want to try to win again. Immigration is a top issue there, along with the economy. What do you think of the polling thats currently out of that state . How reliable is it . We just havent had a ton of data from arizona, and whats come in lately has been fairly favorable to trump. But i suspect that youre going to see a lot of variation in polling in those states between now and election day. The bigger problem for harris, even though shes seen consolidation among black voters, she hasnt seen as much among latino voters, and nationally, shes leading latinos 5442, half the margin democrats won by in 2020. To win arizona, she need a more robust margin among that group, and need to win over some of the people who are splitting their tickets between Donald Trump at the top of the ticket, and Ruben Gallego Down Ballot because they dont like kari lake. Not to paint anyone with a broad brush here, but are there certain things she can focus on to win back or consolidate a little bit more within the latino community . The top issue for the latino community as in every demographic is the economy and inflation. And i do think that her messaging is squarely on costs and bringing down costs has been effective in narrowing the advantage that trump has on that question. And its remarkable how much progress that shes made, but it still looks as if those Great Lakes states are her primary route to 270 electoral votes, and North Carolina may be slightly overtaking georgia and perhaps arizona, although, i think we need more data as her next best opportunity to have a southern option. We are just a little bit over a at this Point A Month before the election. Dave wasserman, dave, Thank You. On tuesday, Rachel Maddow and team will lead special Coverage And Analysis of the Vice President ial debate between senator j. D. Vance and governor tim walz, should be an interesting one. Thats tuesday, 7 00 p. M. Eastern on msnbc. Ill be watching. Coming up, what the federal indictment against mayor Eric Adams could do to upend mai politics. It could potentially matter for federal races in the house, and were going to check in on another region that is being battered by helene while we talk about the bigger issue at stake which is Climate Change. Dont go anywhere. 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The macro issues begin with him saying hes not stepping town. What does that mean . That means hes taking a page out of the trump book. Its not about the city broadly, its about him. One can understand that to an extent, but at the same time, we are close to a national election that is still going to be won on the margins. New york plays one of the most important roles outside of california in trying to get the House To be democratic. Hakeem jeffries from mayor Adams Home Borough Of Brooklyn is principal in trying to get the democrats to take back the house, and im sure Chuck Schumer has a word here to say in this. If you think that Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer might be skittish of pushing somebody out of office, i go back a couple of months to when we were talking about joe biden, and concerns around bringing down the party at a crucial moment in time. The reason i ask about this, and yesterday i got pushback from folks online, hes the mayor, hes not nothing to do with national politics, hes not a state lawmaker. Fine. But when i was covering the 2022 midterms, i went up to West Chester and the Hudson Valley and spoke to a lot of folks about who they were going to vote for. They thought New York City specifically was a held scape, they couldnt go to New York, its too dangerous, overridden with crime, the democrats in charge have ruined the place. Thats what i heard from a lot of voters. Lo and behold, republicans were able to take enough seats so win the house in 2022. Those same seats are up for reelection again. Could they look at mayor adams and favor the republicans . Is it a real problem for the democratic party . If its political, its real and has to be engaged. The republicans are already doing it, not just nationally but locally. What happened in 2022, you had republicans in the suburban communities saying crime is terrible in New York City. The migrant crisis is terrible. How has that affected glen clove. Its emotional. Even though theres rank hypocrisy, given whats going on with Donald Trump, and how the republicans have gathered behind him, its not a logical decision, its an emotional decision. You could say theres not as much bleeding into the counties, into the areas of whats happening in New York City, the proximity, the notion that people feel emotionally connected to New York City and those issues, its obviously going to seem real to them. There will be an opportunity for local republicans, national republicans to extrapolate, pull out whats happening in New York, and generalize it. Thats the danger that democrats locally like the governor has faced. They will face that into the runup of the elections. Will they make a call to Kathy Hochul . I have to think they are in conversation with her. Because, look, she cant make this decision without going to mayor adams base, which largely run through black communities and latino communities. She would not want to undermine those voters to make this decision because shes running the very next year, and there are already some issues there. Shes got to be able to consult. Tacitly, i have to think there are signals on what to do, in the interim, slow down, let us have this internal conversation first, then you make a decision if he doesnt want to go, or, you know, at some point, they may have to find a way to make him make the decision. All right. Okay. Basil smikle, Thank You very much. Appreciate it. Coming up, helene has moved past florida, but parts of that state are still under water. I believe youre looking at Fwa Georgia Right here. We are live on the ground. Were also going to talk about Climate Change. For ng to talk about Climate Change fo i got the power of 3. I lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. 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We have heard of fires, electrical fires, because a lot of times when you have floods at home, i heard from st. Petersburg fire and rescue, plenty of homes have been catching fire. This is shore acres, a hard Hit Part of st. Petersburg, this isnt the only place that we have seen. We also traveled with Hillsboro County Sheriffs Office. They took us inside of an amphibious vehicle. What that means is they can travel on the roads and in the water. And we traveled with their Water Rescue teams, and they were going Door To door, all through the night. They did not sleep, and they did, just this team alone, over 20 rescue, including with a 97yearold woman who needed medical attention. I want to take you to what we heard from one of those rescuers. You know what, we dont have that sound. Reporter im told we actually dont have that sound. So i can summarize for you, katy. What they saw, what they heard were people in shock. And im seeing the same thing on the ground. I have been here for several days. We know the Pinellas County Sheriffs Office had been warning people, we have been warning people, all the meteorologists knew that this was coming, but there are so many people here in the state of florida who did not expect it to be as bad as it was. What we saw was an example of rapid intensification. People who did not expect it to be this bad. Here where we are, this is just one corner. At least five people have died, and authorities expect the number to grow. Thank you very much. Helene is Press Secretarying records in the southeast as the u. N. Is holding its climate week in New York where scientists and World Leaders have met to discuss concerns about bigger and stronger storms along with Temperature Changes across the globe. Joining us now, bill nye, you know him well, and University Pennsylvania President ial distinguished professor of earth and environmental science, and author of our fragile moment, how lessons from Earths Past can help us survive the climate crisis, and a whole lot of other books, michael mann. I will have more time next time if we shorten that title of yours. Thanks, katy, great to be with you. I wish we were talking about better news. You were nodding your head as marissa was talking about rapid intensification. Yeah, something we talk a lot about these days. You know, these storms intensify far more rapidly than they used to, and theres basic under lying science that predicted that decades ago. You warm up the oceans, theres more energy, evaporation and moisture, that provides the energy to intense storms. They intensify faster and, we are seeing that, and the threat is, as you heard here, you have less time to prepare because something that was just a weak tropical storm is a major hurricane in a matter of 24 hours. People say, Climate Scientists say its the end of the world, Climate Change is here, disaster is coming but everything has been fine, and i look at them and say what about that hurricane or what about that fire. There are pockets of this country that are not fine. Its not happening, you know, the end of the world in a Science Fiction Movie at the moment. There are real life effects and a lot of people being displaced and killed. And its also, when your power goes out, thats when the end of the world gets us, and the developed world, and people who live in that area now have just not just Rain Water Flooding but flooding from the ocean, which is salty, which rusts your car, and you cant get insurance for where you park your car, and the Storm Surge was 12 feet. Something like that. Thats a first floor of a building. Everything, if you live on the first floor, everything you own is kind of ruined, and that will not Insurance Companies will not keep doing that. Where do you live now if you want to stay safe from the effects of Climate Change . Further inland. For example, i was in miami. Theres two cities, Miami Beach and miami. In miami, the higher ground used to be where poorer people lived but now its getting Gentry Fied because people are moving inland. Im chuckling because it is unironic. The other thing that happened as far as rapid intensification, The Storm is moving very fast. You not only had the fast spinning winds but it was moving south to north fast, and this contributed to a longer term problem. People who have lived in the area for a long time have been through several big storms. They didnt quite get how fast it was moving on. How fast it was going, and also theres a huge storm. Theres evidence that The Storms are getting bigger, the Hurricane Strength winds extend further out. The bigger The Storm, the more water you pile up. The faster the winds, the more water you pile up. The record Storm Surges are caused by both powerful hurricanes that extend over large areas. U. N. Climate week this week, any consensus happening . Were just one international meeting from solving it. Just one more. No, people say to me, bill nye, science fwi, what can i do about Climate Change, tell you what, people, vote. Right now, we hear so much about the undecided voters, and im being as diplomatic. Magnanimous, how can you not tell the difference people, one side is in support of doing something about the massive problems with Climate Change, the other side is pretending its not happening. And you guys, we all want a villain, and so on. It really has been the Fossil Fuel Industry that has worked really hard to suppress the science. A lot of people when they hear that, though, they think, god, you guys are being too crazy, too strict, too harsh. I like my way of life. I like my car. I like ordering things on amazon. I like all the plastic that i have in my life. Im crazy for plastic. Its so ingrained, and what theyre looking for is science to come up with a way to solve this problem. So we claim, on our side of it, we claim that we have enough energy to take care of everything right now, if we just could apply it, and so the longest journey begins with a single step. We will phase out Fossil Fuel use, and we will phase in renewable energy, but just when it comes november 5th, everybody, youve got to vote for the democrats. Im going my best. For many years, i have been the head of an organization that we work very hard to be political but not partisan in space exploration. Be that as it may, right now, the choice is clear, so everybody out there, you can hate me, you can hate him. You can hate everything, but when it comes to doing something about Climate Change,you have to vote for harris walz. I want to add a note of optimism during climate week. There are preliminary numbers, in 2024, a drop of global carbon emissions. You heard it here first. That means our efforts are starting to make a difference. Which ones . So total carbon emissions, some from Fossil Fuel, deforestation, the opposite direction, the net effect of changes in land use, and Fossil Fuel burning is a small decrease, which means policies are making a difference. Thats the good news. If we do have a policy, we can change things, electric cars. So electric cars, everybody, are not a panacea, but we have built all of these roads. My goodness have we built roads to the point were about 1 of North America is paved. And so lets use them. The electric car is nominally at least four times as efficient as a gas powered car. And in many cases, five times as efficient, and then, when you drive it around, youre not spreading the pollution out all over the city, its being concentrated someplace, and if that place happens to be a Fossil Fuel of a fueled power plant, you can Filter Or Bag the particulates, the stuff that comes out, and then one day, we will phase those outs. Dont close any existing nuclear power plants, well get to that. But right now, renewables are coming on so strongly, so fast that international emissions are going down. You have a few seconds, unless you want to piss off nicolle wallace. Were bending the curve, we have to bend it down faster, for truly catastrophic warming. We have to build on the policies of the last administration. Just kidding, nicolle never gets mad. Shes the nicest person. I mean that sincerely. Shes the best. Only to you guys. Thank you for joining us. What timing. Thats going to do it for me today, deadline White House begins just after this short break. 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