Lying in wait with a gun for Donald Trump. The suspect, described as emotionless, even nonchalant as he was charged in court today. The new details about how long he may have been waiting in that Tree Line and the new Body Cam Footage of when police finally caught up to him. Also, trump moving ahead with his schedule, telling supporters his resolve is only stronger. His flurry of fundraising emails and what we know about the mood inside the Trump Campaign. Plus, President Biden declaring the Secret Service needs more help. His message and what Kamala Harris is saying about the alleged attempt on her rival. And after two close calls in just over two months, lawmakers say they want answers. Weve live on Capitol Hill with new pressure on the Secret Service. Our Nbc News reporters are falling all of the latest developments. We start with those new details about ryan routh, the man facing gun charges linked to the alleged attempt on Donald Trumps life. Nbcs Tom Winter joins me now. What more do we know, tom . We have a little bit of new information from the criminal complaint filed in federal court, chris, following that Court Proceeding this morning. The new information is that according to Cellphone Records so on facebook he posted some information about his whatsapp account, and then federal investigators were able to use that information to associate it with a cellphone number. They called up tmobile. They have the ability to ask for an Emergency Warrant to get information about that number, and they were able to track it down, that he was outside of the Golf Course at approximately 1 50 a. M. On sunday. So he sets up in the overnight hours, saturday into sunday, and then the shooting happens almost 12 hours later at approximately 1 30 p. M. When the Secret Service spots him in the Tree Line and then fires at him. So where he was specifically hiding and how that went down and where his vehicle was and should it have been noticed or not remains a bit of an open question, but i think it is just important to get a sense of the timing. We know from our researcher in the Nbc News investigative unit, chloe active, already the fbi has gone to local businesses surrounding this Street And Shooting area and seized the hard drives containing Surveillance Video from those locations. So it is a little bit of new detail and shows theyre on top of the situation already. There are also federal agents out there actually interviewing and talking to people as i speak with you, and weve been able to spot them out there, you know, talking to local businesses as well as they try to develop a timeline as far as where this individual was and what was going on. The gun charges we alluded to, you and i spoke about it frankly last night, about the idea that this could be a potential avenue for charging this individual, and thats what theyve, in fact, done here. We will have to figure out if somebody sold him that gun illegally, if theres an active and ongoing investigation into that, and well have to get to the bottom of that. Obviously investigators probably looking into that as well and trying to determine what happened here with respect to the weapon. But thats kind of the latest information that we have. There is going to be a 4 00 briefing involving the Secret Service, the Acting Director as well as the fbi and the u. S. Attorney out of miami. So hopefully more details this afternoon, chris. Thanks so much for that, tom. Well, Donald Trump is expected to meet with the acting Secret Service director today. Meantime, he has been using the incident at his Golf Course as part of the new push to rally supporters. Nbcs Vaughn Hillyard is on the ground in west Palm Beach, florida for us. What are we hearing from the former president . We have seen multiple Fundraising And Text messages coming from the campaign in the 24 hours since the attempted assassination. We have in the form of social Media Posts from Donald Trump now heard from him placing blame at the feet of democrats, particularly Vice PresidentKamala Harris for what he describes as rhetoric that led to these apparent Assassination Attempts to take his life. Just one social Media Post from just a short time ago saying, quote, because of the communist left rhetoric, the bullets are flying, and it will only get worse. That these, quote, ridiculous lawsuits, referring to the indictments against him, and the civil suits are specifically designed to inflict damage on joes and kamalas political opponent, me, and it has taken politics in our country to a whole new level of hatred, abuse and distrust. To our understanding, at this Point In TimeDonald Trump will proceed with his campaign schedule. Tomorrow he is slated to have an event in michigan before heading to New York for a Campaign Rally on long island. On thursday he will be in washington, d. C. Delivering remarks before going to North Carolina for a Campaign Rally on saturday. For Donald Trump and his campaign, there is a reality that yesterday afternoon, that if it was not for the cellar work of the u. S. Secret service and local Law Enforcement that there could be an attempted assassin on the loose here as we speak. This is a moment for the campaign where the Cocampaign Manager sent out a memo to campaign staff, said that they wanted to ensure the Security And Safety of this staff. But this is looming over as we come down into the crucial days ahead for this campaign. On thursday early ballots go out, Mail Ballots go out to voters in wisconsin. Voters in other states will be getting their Mail Ballots as well. This is a crucial time for this campaign, chris. There is no doubt about that. Vaughn hillyard, Thank You. Meantime, we heard from President Biden in the wake of this incident. He says more help is needed for the Secret Service. Nbcs Gabe Gutierrez joins us now. Tell us more about what President Biden had to say today. Hi there, chris. Good afternoon. Yes, as you said, he said Thank God that President Trump Formerpresident trump is okay, but he also talked about how the Secret Service needs more help, although he was asked whether it meant more funding or more personnel, and he said theyre still deciding on that. That was as he left the White House earlier today. But a few moments ago he spoke to a gathering of hbcus in philadelphia. Lets listen to what he said again just moments ago. Let me just say there is no and i mean this from the bottom of my hard, those who know me and many of you do, no place for political violence in america, none, zero, never. I have always condemned political violence, i always will in america. In america we resolve our difference peacefully at the ballot box, not at The End of a gun. And the president went on to say that we must do everything we can to prevent political violence and never give it oxygen. Now, overnight Vice President harris also put out a statement of her own saying that she is glad the former president is safe and that violence has no place in america. So, again, chris, both the president and Vice President weighing in on this. As of now we have no indication that the events of yesterday will have any impact on the Vice President s campaign stops later on this week, chris. Gabe gutierrez, Thank You for that. Meantime, on Capitol Hill lawmakers are demanding another briefing from the Secret Service on how a suspected gunman could have gotten within 500 yards of the former president. Nbcs Ryan Nobles is on The Hill for us. Whats the latest from there . Chris, it is important to keep in many there were many republicans and democrats who were already concerned about the Secret Service in the wake of the attempted Assassination Attempt of President Trump over the summer. This has now stepped up their concerns and it has led to even more questions about oversight of the agency and a demand for transparency from the Secret Service. Both the senate and the house have launched investigations into the first Assassination Attempt, and theres some question now as to whether or not those existing investigations will now just roll into this latest Assassination Attempt against the former president. But theres been a degree of frustration between the amount of information being shared by the Executive Branch over to the legislative branch, and this is what Congresswoman Madeleine Dean had to say about that earlier today. What we need from the Secret Service is more transparent truth about what happened, what works, what doesnt, what resources are missing. I do believe that Secret Service appears from our preliminary reviews, they appear to be stretched too thin, that they need more resources, and certainly these candidates with the threats that they are under must have toplevel Secret Service accommodations and protections. And what members of congress told me, chris, is theres three goals here by the members of congress as they look into both of these incidents. The first is to find out how it happened, what went wrong, what can they do to prevent it from happening again. Then theres the idea of implementing a longterm strategy to allow the Secret Service the capacity to make sure that they protect everyone under their charge and make sure theyre safe, but theres a more immediate need, and that is that we are in the midst of a very robust campaign involving two major Party President ial candidates, and then you also have the added responsibility of the sitting president of the united states. All of that protection falls underneath the Secret Services banner, and if there are fundamental problems with the way this agency exists, whether or not they have enough resources, whether or not their practices are the best ones to be implemented, all of that needs to be addressed immediately to make sure that we can get through this campaign without something tragic happening. Chris. Ryan nobles, Thank You. Coming up in 90 seconds, investigators say the suspected gunman, who was hiding in the Tree Line at Donald Trumps Golf Course, isnt talking. 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Here is Palm BeachCounty Sheriff and the State Attorney for Palm Beach county. Is he talking . No. When he was pulled over first, he kept his mouth shut. He was compliant, which tells you that he perhaps has been through this before, not specifically with this charge but hes had a Rap Sheet. I want to bring in Nbcs Justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian. Also with us former federal Prosecutor And Msnbc legal analyst paul butler. Paul, as you are building a case against this guy does his pass play into it in any significant way, what we just heard about him . Absolutely, especially the fact that this person is a convicted felon, which means that it is illegal for him to possess a firearm. So one key part of the investigation will be how did he get this gun, did someone give it to him. That also raises the question whether there was a conspiracy. So this case is just beginning. Chris, the charges that were filed today are just holding charges. Theyre designed to keep the suspect locked up as the investigation continues. Theyre serious charges, possession of a firearm by a convicted felon carries a sentence of up to 15 years, but i suspect even more serious federal charges are forthcoming. We saw the county d. A. Just a second ago in the second piece of sound, and he had said yesterday i interviewed him and he said, look, he was ready to go forward with charges, the federal government decided they were taking this case very quickly. How does that change the equation . It is a question of who goes first. There could be state and federal charges at some point. I think federal prosecutors are probably consider charges of attempted assassination of the former president. Prosecutors will have to think whether they have enough evidence to prove the Suspects Intent and he got close enough to the president to injure him. If the suspect aimed a gun at a Secret Service agent, criminal charges related to that might be more easier to prove and would carry a long sentence, too. Again, those charges ultimately could be brought in State Court as well as federal court. But for an attempted assassination, federal charge, you dont have to necessarily have fired, is that right . That is true. The issue is just how close he got to committing the crime, but, yes, he doesnt have to have pulled the trigger in order to be charged with assassination. Ken, our colleague Jesse Kirsch talked to the martin County Sheriff about what might have happened if the witness didnt spot this suspect. What did he say . Yeah, thats right. We are learning more about the great Police Work that happened there. I think we have that sound. Lets take a listen to it. If the witness had not seen him, where would he be right now . If the witness had not seen him, taken a picture of the car, giving us the tag and had not Palm Beach county Given It to us immediately, i would say he would be home resting, having a margarita about now. Thats remarkable. They made use of License Plate readers to quickly locate, you know, where that vehicle was along i95. And then we have really arresting video of what happened when they reached the car, the body cam video. Lets take a look at that. So as you see there, the swat team, carefully trained, theyre in formation. Theyre taking pains to make sure that their lives are not at risk, but this this arrest happened you know, it is a felony stop, it is a Highrisk Procedure by these guys, but it happened with no injuries. They took the suspect into custody there, as you see, aggressively but without hurting him and took him off to jail, chris. Yeah, when he walked into the federal courthouse earlier, paul, our team there described his demeanor as not bothered, nonchalant, which matches, right, what were seeing there. Let me play a little bit from how the martin County Sheriff described it all. They had him at Rifle Point get out of the vehicle, on his knees, interlock his hands. You have seen it before. And then take him into custody. I arrived a moment later, and i would describe his demeanor as very calm. He seemed to have a very bland facial affect. He didnt seem perturbed or disturbed by what was going on. I mean we had a helicopter overhead, men with rifles and blue lights, and the interstate shut down. He was just just as calm as if he was going for a picnic after church. Do you read anything into that, paul . Well, hes reportedly had over 100 contacts with Law Enforcement, mainly in North Carolina. So hes been arrested many times, meaning that he has been read his Miranda Warning many times. He understands he is not required to talk to Law Enforcement. Today he was formally assigned a federal public defender, so no statement is likely forthcoming from him. At the same time, chris, the evidence suggests lots of planning including the fact that there was this scoped rifle, the backpacks with ceramic plates, which plates which indicated he planned to get away. It wasnt any kind of suicide mission. Also, he had a Go Pro Camera to try to help him document, record this crime. Even if he is not talking, lots of forensic evidence will be available to Law Enforcement as they investigate what looks like an attempted assassination. Yeah. Let me ask you about another piece of evidence revealed in court documents. There are Cellphone Records showing that his phone was in the area of the Golf CourseTree Line for about 12 hours, from almost 2 00 a. M. Until roughly 1 30 in the afternoon, which is when police spotted this suspect. How does that impact the case . So really speedy, good work by Law Enforcement. Yesterday they got this Emergency Warrant that allowed them to get his Cellphone Records. From that they could look at the content and see who he is in contact with. The Cellphone Tower records also allowed Law Enforcement to trace a suspects movements. Thats one way that they know that apparently the suspect was hiding out at this Golf Course for almost 12 hours, simply unbelievable, chris. Unbelievable is right. Paul butler, ken dilanian, Thank You both. Coming up, he relishes big rallies and big crowds, but can Donald Trump be convinced to change anything about his campaign after two apparent attempts on his life . Well talk about that, next. No way. if you have postmenopausal osteoporosis and are at high risk for fracture, you can do more than just slow bone loss. You can build new bone in just 12 months with evenity®. Evenity® is proven to reduce Spine Fracture Risk by 73 . I heard her say the evenity® shes taking builds new bone. 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He has at least five events. It includes a Town Hall in michigan and rallies in new York State and North Carolina. Last hour, officials in Nassau County, New York, gave an update, saying theyre ready for trumps visit. This will be the safest place in the country on that day, on wednesday. There will be an increased and enhanced Police Presence as well as additional Law Enforcement assets that will be available to us. Joining us now, josh doffey, Washington Post political investigations reporter, and mark mckinnon, former advisor to george w. Bush and John Mccains president ial campaigns. Mark, as someone who worked on those campaigns, can you imagine how it is like right now, how to make a strategic decision about the candidate that balances both safety, the recommendations sure to come from the Secret Service if they havent already, and their need, the calendar that tells them they want to be out there among the people . Sure. Glad to be with you. The effect this has on the campaign is serious, but they can deal with it. They have what their goal is to have is to have rallies, to have venues, and they can have indoor rallies. It doesnt really their primary mission is to get his message out. He can do that in all kinds of venues that arent huge outdoor stadiums. The real impact this has is on the candidate himself and his own psyche. He is the guy that loves the outdoor rallies. He is the guy who loves the huge crowds. So the impact really is not so much on the campaign as it is on the candidate himself, and i think that i think that theyll adapt. I think that obviously Secret Service is doing their best. From an overall net impact on the campaign and getting his message out, i dont think it have that big Secret Service has been concerned about Golf Courses for a while now, and, in fact, open spaces generally, right . I spoke to carol leonnig, who you know obviously, your colleague, who has done extensive reporting on the Secret Service and i asked her what trump can and cant do, even if the Secret Service advises against it. Here is what she told me. He can continue to golf. He can continue to hold outdoor events, but i think he is going to be counselled that this is not safe. It is so important for candidates to be near the people in the weeks and days before the election. Well, everyone now knows that is what got john f. Kennedy killed. He insisted to the Secret Service over and over again, i want an open car so that voters can see me coming by. So i know, josh, you have done extensive reporting on the frustration inside the Trump Campaign when it comes to having to cancel or reschedule events because there were folks who said it wasnt going to be safe. What more can you tell us about the thinking inside the campaign . Well, i think theres a little bit of paranoia right now, and understandably so. I mean theres been two Assassination Attempts or potential Assassination Attempts on his life, both attempts in the last couple of months, one that obviously, you know, a Bullet Hit him. I think of the years after he left the presidency, Donald Trump and the Secret Service were not maybe as careful as they are these days. You know, you have people going into his Golf Club who have not been searched or wanded. You had fears that they didnt really know who they were at times because members can bring other people. You know, it wasnt nearly as much of a strict Security Protocol as has been in place recently. The Secret Service has deployed lots of snipers, theyve closed down roads. Theyve really changed their posture towards him since the horrific and awful attacks on July 13 when, you know, the guy got 140 yards on top of a building and fired a gun and hit the former president. So i think whats changed is how much, you know, resources and how many people they have around him, and the concerns that are around him now. I mean one of his people told me recently they thought they lived in a Military Encampment now. It is very different than it was before. You know, yesterday and it continues through today, mark there have been a number of what looked like statements by the former president. In fact, we didnt actually get a statement from him until late in the evening, i think it was in the 11 00 hour. What we were actually seeing before that were fundraising emails. Does it surprise you at all that they very quickly did a turn to, first of all, blame a lot of this on Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, saying theyre the ones who are ramping up the rhetoric and telling people to send them money . Nothing surprises me at all in politics anymore, and theyll take advantage of anything to raise money. You know, it was literally seconds within the announcement that the fundraising emails were going out. So, yes, theyre going to take full advantage of this, and this is part of Donald Trumps whole psyche is to show no fear. He may say the campaign is really concerned but i have no confirms. You know, he does the raised Fist Thing when he was literally shot at. So i mean his whole brand is to get out there and be fearless about this. But, listen, the campaign is going to be smart about it, as will the Secret Service. Theyre not going to put him into any venues where theres going to be any danger, and as you reported, any of those venues that he is coming to, theyre going to go Above And Beyond anything they have ever done before to ensure his safety. Yeah, Nassau County made it very clear, josh, what they plan to do. I wonder what you are hearing, and i know it is really early and, again, we have not even seen the meeting between the acting Secret Service director and Donald Trump, but are there conversations that are ongoing about what this means, for example, for the u. N. General assembly which is next week in New York city, what it might mean for Kamala Harris if they give a certain level of security to Donald Trump, will they match that with Kamala Harris . What are the kinds of questions that they have to decide and settle on now . Those are good questions. I dont know the answer to them. I know for trump that his people say hes keeping his schedule just as it was this week, that he will be doing every event he was as planned. But we saw more Bullet Proof Glass already go up around these candidates recently. We saw after the July 13th shooting, there was talk about doing any outdoor events and they later made a decision they could do Bullet Proof Glass around him. You have seen a lot of, you know, back and forth with the Secret Service and the Trump Campaign, can we do this event, can we do that event. He said probably he wants to go back to butler where the first, you know, shooting happened earlier this summer before The End of the campaign season. So i think what really is a dynamic now is you are having a lot of more intense conversations on every event. You know, can we do this, can we pull this off. It is the same you know, maybe not exactly the same, but similar in some ways with Kamala Harris. I mean she is getting the Vice President is getting, you know, large crowds at venues. She is getting, you know, 10,000, 15,000 people at some of these events and in arenas. She is doing Airplane Hangar events. We have seen, these are all the kind of venues, you know, that Cause Concern with the Secret Service. Josh, it is always good to have you on the program. Mark, you are going to stick around. 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Joining me now, Maggie Vespa along with Julian Castro, former Hud Secretary and msnbc political analyst. Mark mckinnon is back with us as well. Maggie, what can you tell us now about this latest situation in springfield . Yeah, chris, another day, another slew of threats frankly. We just learned about the two Elementary Schools that you talked about. Those are in the city of springfield. We have also through our affiliate in the area confirmed that there was a Bomb Threat called into the ohio state house. Thats about 45 Minutes East of springfield in columbus, ohio. So we are working to get details on all three. I mean you are looking at video of this small ohio factory city. Springfield, ohio, again, a city embroiled at the center of this conspiracy theoryfuelled firestorm that, again, was started when Formerpresident Trump last week, and political officials say this bluntly, this started when he last week at the president ial debate repeated the viral and officials stress false claims that haitian immigrants in that city have been eating peoples pets. Again, officials say theres absolutely no evidence of that. We talked to City Officials all week and they said can we please turn the temperature down, did we please stop talking about this especially as local authorities have said it is patently false. Cut to yesterday in the hours before the apparent Assassination Attempt, President Trumps campaign, a source familiar with their plans, telling us he does plan to actually visit the city of springfield, quote, soon. They didnt give a day. They different gnt details, but weve reached out to the Mayor And City officials to get their reactions to that. He basically said he was really hoping the spotlight would die down on springfield soon and all of this could kind of calm down. As a result based on this news, chris, it doesnt look like thats going to happen any time soon. Thank you so much for that, Maggie Vespa. Mr. Secretary, jdvance was asked about his role in spreading these lies, these false stories about migrants eating cats and dogs, and here is what he said. The american media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump and i started talking about cat memes. If i have to it wasnt just a meme, sir. Create stories so that the american media actually pays attention to the suffering of the american people, then thats what im going do do, dana, because you guys are completely letting Kamala Harris coast. Sir, you said you are creating the story. Whats that, dana . You said it is a story you created. Yes. So eating dogs is not accurate. We are dana, it comes from firsthand accounts from my constituents. I say were creating a story, meaning we are creating the american media focusing on it. I should remind folks when Donald Trump was ask about this, mr. Secretary, he said he got it from stories, from television. How should we take that response . I mean there you have it, chris. I mean it is the ultimate freudan slip. Basically he is acknowledging that these guys are creating stories out of thin air. Now, they say somebody said this in springfield or people in the city, theyre making this up. Theyre taking lies based on racism, based on xenophobia. Theyre engaging in whats known as racial priming to try to stir resentment against these haitian immigrants and, more largely, against immigrants in general for political gain. And the fact that Donald Trump says now, well, i might go to springfield, this is the same playbook, doubling down on Hate And Division to really appeal to his base. He has always bet in each race, 2016, 2020 and now in 2024, that there are enough people that buy into this hateful rhetoric, that resent immigrants, whether theyre black or brown or from whatever country, that theyre going to go support him. In 2020 people said no to that. They rejected it, and i think theyre going to reject it again in 2024. There are a number of indications of things that the former president has said, he has written, and ill just mention again today him blaming Joe Biden and Kamala Harris for what happened to him. Most recently, he talked about Joe Biden as a threat to democracy and the existence of our country itself. He says, Kamala Harris is a threat to democracy now. He says, if i dont win on November 5th i think our country is going to cease to exist. Im just going to remind you folks that back in April Of 2020 he posted liberate michigan online, and over the course of the next Month AMilitia Group that was based in michigan, it is called the wolverine watchmen militia, plotted to instigate a civil war. I dont think we need to go too far, mark, to know that violent rhetoric is a problem in this country, but i keep getting asked by voters, by people on the street, how do we get a handle on this, and that includes i live in New York city, so that includes democrats who will say, i dont think were totally blameless either. The republicans want to get into a back and forth of check the record on who has raised the heat on the violent rhetoric more than the other party. I think theyre in a bad position there. But to your point about the about creating stories, thats just a nice way of dressing it up. What theyre saying is we lied about it, we lied about it in order to bring something we think is a good political issue for us, and the consequence of that is what were seeing now, which is just what you are talking about, violence. Theyre having Bomb Threats in schools over a story that they, quote, created, that they lied about. So theyre the ones i mean thats an exact example in springfield right now of them raising the rhetoric, raising the heat, on a false story, on a lie that created a Bomb Threat at schools. You dont have to look too hard to see where the problem is coming from. Yeah, and i dont mean to be critical of all of Social Media because i have laughed at this stuff, mr. Secretary, but, you know, there are a lot of people who are mocking this story because theyre taking their pets, their cats and dogs and putting them in pots and putting Salt And Pepper on them and, you know, you watch it and it is funny or, you know, theyll show a Baby Gnawing on the ear of a dog and you will hear Donald Trump saying, theyre eating dogs, theyre eating cats. I mean that stuff, you know, is meant to mock it, but in The End clearly if a bunch of little Elementary School kids are being taken out of their school because of threats, it is not so funny anymore. Whats the responsibility of the grownups in the room and who are the grownups in the room anymore . It is very clear in that debate. I mean one of the grownups, an important grownups these days is Kamala Harris. I mean theyre in that debate, you saw her response. I mean with, you know, much more sober, pragmatic, positive Vision Of The Future and avoiding this kind of absurdity. In fact, she has pointed out time and again how absurd it is. Democrats have pointed out that it is a lie, and so have some republicans. So i think that there are still a lot of adults in the room out there. It is true in Social Media that it gets turned into memes. So i think with a lot of people, you know, it is the absurdity of it. People also, you know, laugh so they wont cry, the fact that weve gotten to the point where the nominee for one of the two major parties is so ridiculous and so hateful and divisive that he says something like people are eating cats and eating dogs without any evidence whatsoever and shamelessly doubles down on that. Ten years ago nobody would have predicted this, chris. So in so many ways we are in uncharted territory, the way that we have been this whole time with Donald Trump and, you know, i applaud folks on the left and some on the right who have tried to set the record straight. Unfortunately, Donald Trump and j. D. Vance think that this is going to be good for political purposes, and theyre not among those adults in the room. Thats the problem. They have a big microphone. I guess to the point of november, it is how to quantify how it helps them, right, with their base, with their turnout. I was seeing over the weekend that one of the things Donald Trump posted, we all know that the most famous Pop Star in the world endorsed Kamala Harris and so Donald Trump over the weekend posted in all caps i hate Taylor Swift with, of course, exclamation point. My Camera Guy is laughing so i will try to keep a straight face. But, again, like to what end, to what end, mark . Well, fear and division. Fear and division, thats what it is all about and creating a divide between americans and, listen, that kind of rhetoric, talking about problematic rhetoric that can create and incite violence, you know, saying that he hates a Pop Star, we know what kind of Zealots SupportDonald Trump, and support on both sides. But if a zealot gets a message that your guy hates this celebrity, guess what that person is going to do . You know, if they dont have the Mental Capacity to follow societys orders, theyre going to follow up the orders of the guy who gave them the order over the internet and the order was, i hate this person. So, quote, you know, maybe the underlying message is i should go do something about it. I want to end on a more positive vote. Some not Breaking News that Julian Castro is having a big birthday today. Im not saying numbers. Im not going to say anything, mark is not going to say anything about not having an invitation in the mail, but we wish you a very happy birthday, mr. Secretary. Thank you for coming on the program on your birthday. Thank you. 50, thats the number. Thanks, chris. All of these people look so young. Still to come, happy birthday. A time for choosing. A group of Ronald Reagan staffers invoking the late president to explain why theyre now supporting Kamala Harris. 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More than a dozen former staffers to President Ronald Reagan are out in a new letter endorsing the democratic ticket, saying reagan spoke about a time for dhuzing, while hes not here to experience the current moment, when he would worked for him in the White House and in the administration and in campaigns and personal staff know he would join us in supporting the harriswalz tike. What else are we hearing from these folks. This is about 17 staffers that did work for President Reagan and it follows on a pattern of other republicans in recent weeks come out and endorse Vice President harris and her candidacy. And specifically, these staffers are referring to that famous speech that you referenced, the time for choosing speech and theyre laying this out in terms of what they view as a really high Stakes Moment in this election. And it is something that weve seen for instance from former georgia w. Bush administration officials as well. Just last week, his Attorney General endorsed Vice President harris, we saw of Course Congresswoman Liz cheney also back the Vice President in addition to her father former Vice PresidentDick Cheney. And this is something that the Harris Campaign is putting a concentrated effort behind. They have their outreach to Republicans Group that really is a section of the campaign that has dedicated staffers. That is continuing to do this kind of outreach and it is really saying their surprised and quite happy to see some of the response and theyre constantly trying to see if there are more gop voices who may lend their own support to the Vice President. But it shows you that this is a moment where they were talking just around the debate last week about the days in which you could see someone like Celebrity Superstar Taylor swift endorse Vice President harris, just days after again somebody like Dick Cheney was walking here and you have a wide swath of People Ideology that maybe could convey to some voters the Harris Campaign hopes who are in the middle, some of the people who are more independent and perhaps rightleaning but trying to akt tra. And so youre going to continue to see this strategy play out and i wouldnt be surprised if there are perhaps some other voices that we should note for his part former president george w. Bush did indicate that he doesnt plan to endorse in this election. Chris. Monica alba. That is something that he has not done in previous elections as well. That is going to do it for us this hour. Make sure to join us for Chris Jansing reports every Week Day from 1 00 here on msnbc. 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