Roller coaster election season. Both Vice PresidentKamala Harris and former President Trump are hunkered down, plotting strategy for their first debate on tuesday in philadelphia. The latest polling from New York Times and Sienna College suggest for all of the excitement surrounding harrisentry into the race in july the race remains a dead heat with neither candidate holding a significant at vantage either nationwide or in key states. Donating millions of democratic candidates to take on maga republican candidates as the state and local level. Joining me now is North Carolina Attorney general the democratic governor. And before we get started to your governors race. North carolina is in the News Week as the Vice President first stop in her Barnstorming Tour after the debate. Polls show a tight race between her and trump in North Carolina. But also in other Swing States. What do you think North Carolina is the vps and we do you think it is the vps first stop post debate. Reporter polls have her up or down a point all within a couple of points and she is going to work lard and win this state. President Barack Obama won in 2008. And, it was the state that most narrowly went for the republican candidate in both 2012 and 2012. So it is absolutely within reach and they are going to work hard to win North Carolina. We are excited to have her come to the state. Now, North Carolina continues its evolution as an e electoral battleground. Trump was just there this week and let me pause one minute we have breaking news. Vice president harris is on the move in the Battleground State of pennsylvania. She is taking a break from a debate preparations. Here she is moments ago taking a walk with her husband. If we get more visuals from the Vice President we will show them to you. Let me go back to the Attorney General. North carolina as i said is evolving as a Battleground State with Donald Trump there just this week. His fourth time campaigning in the state. The Harris Campaign is focusing a lot of resources on North Carolina. Polls show the Vice President is close with trump after biden trailed him there. The latest polling averaged out in North Carolina. The courtesy of New York Times shows a dead tie between Harris And Trump in the state. Both candidates have 48 . How does the Vice President pull ahead in the tar heel state. The reason why former President Trump has been in North Carolina so many times since his convention is that he knows there is no path to election as president in this 2024 cycle if he loses North Carolina. It has to be in the Win Column that is why it is exciting to see Vice President hair competing hard here what she needs to do is what she is doing all over the country. Talk to voters about what her Priorities Arement making sure folks have a real shot in this economy. A Fair Shot to make it to dealing with the rising costs and getting good paying jobs to make sure folks live in safe neighborhoods, that we have secure boarders, all of the things she is talking about will work. Truly is the whole country. And, so we are excited to have her come here. Of course, i am applying for a different job. Applying for governor. I have to make my own case about the choice that they face which is incredibly stark between my opponent, the Lieutenant Governor and me. There is a guy who just fights the Culture Wars that only serve to divide us and Kill Jobs where i have been fighting for people as the Attorney General and before that, State Senator for the past 16 years. And i have a record of keeping families safe, fighting for peoples health care. Better public schools, defending their personal freedoms. The right to vote and womens right to choose. Now, staying in North Carolina which has a ban on abortion in 12 weeks with exceptions for rain and incest. A group just released a call. You just mentioned him in the Culture Wars, Lieutenant Governor mark robinson. Who supports the ban. And abortions are getting down to 0 weeks, robinson has history of inflammatory statements which democrats hope will help their chances down. What is your reaction to this. Preaching in North Carolina and salem and did rallies in greensburg, getting a lot of Feedback And Concern about mr. Robinsons views. He, he, it is so extreme. He is beyond extreme. He is at the fringe of the republican party. He wants a total ban on abortion. Absolutely no exceptions, not for rain, not for incest, not even to save the life of a mother. Dont take my word for it. Take his word. He just was recorded last week saying he wanted to go 12 weeks to 6 weeks and then down to 0. He says for him there is no compromise on abortion. He recorded himself and posted on facebook that women have abortions because they cant keep their skirts down and they keep wanting to run to the club every friday night. If is just despicable and disrespectful. And abortion is on the ballot in North Carolina. If the republican legislature has a republican governor he will sign whatever further restrictions they enact in womens rights, they will be completely at risk. Now, last week Donald Trump addressed a conference of jewish republicans reiterating his unfounded claims that israel was cease to exist under harris precedency. And that israels war in gaza will never have begun had he been president on october 7th. He said this, of course, just days after the bodies of six israeli hostages, including an israeli american, were recovered in gaza. A tragedy that the president and Vice President both condemned. Take a listen. Harris, biden, administration. Cast blame for these deaths on israel. They have not been your friends. I dont understand how anybody can support them. I say it constantly. If you had them to support and you were jewish you would have to have your head examined, they have been very bad to you. As a jewish american democrat, what is your reaction to Trumps Criticism . To say that all jews should believe one thing or another thing is to traffic anti semitic tropes. That is what his endorsed candidate, here in North Carolina has done. Mark robinson has said the most vile things about jewish people. He has said the holocaust was hogwash, he said Black Panthers to take outofpocket, but used a slur. Jews are one of the four Horse Man of the a pock jewish people will vote for whoever supports their family. This race is neck and neck. All is, we need all of the help that we can get. Folks that want to learn more they can go to joshshine. Org. All right, thank you for being with us. North carolina gubernatorial candidate, josh stein. Joining me now, chair of the democratic national committee. Mr. Chairman. Thank you for your time tonight. Lets start with Tuesdays President ial debate in philadelphia. What do you want to see from the Vice President in her Face Toface Meeting with trump . And what do you hope she avoids . Reporter well, rev, always great to be with you. I hope she paints the country for the american people, elections are about a choice. In this election we have a choice between the future and the past. Hope versus fear. Joy versus hate, Progress Verse us chaos. Harris represents the hope of the american people. She knows americas better days are not in the past but in the future and it is that past that trump wants to go back to what he wants to get back to and we know that the past is not always good for all of us in america. We need to make sure that we are investing in this country so the american people, all of the american people regardless of your background, get an opportunity to live the american dream. That is that Opportunity Economy that Kamala Harris is focusing on. That is what she is building right now. And, so, what i hope she does is paint that contrast, focus on talking to the american people, leave all of the Donald Trump nonsense alone. That does not matter. But, also, listen. In these debates and the thing that i learned in my debates with Lindsey Graham is you want to listen. The other side will give you an opportunity t. Is those opportunities, you know well, rev, those are the things that make or break or win or lose a debate and therefore an election. That is absolutely correct. Let me go to this, the Harris Campaign and the Dn C announced last week that they will donate nearly 25 Million to down ballot democrats. 10 Million a piece. Nearly 3 Million for legislative races and A Million a piece to get the state attorneys general. Obviously this is as a lot about the Harris Campaigns ability to share resources after weeks of frankly record fundraising. But, what does the timing and the sheer amount of this donation say about the importance of these down ballot races. Well, rev. This is a continuation of Joe Biden and harris did in the midterms, working with the dnc. We gave over 20 Million to the midterms, how we beat back that red wave. We knew it worked, we saw it worked, so we are continuing that tradition right now to make sure that it is not just about the top of the ticket. If you want to govern and in a way to really get things done for the american people they cant just be about winning the white house, you have to have congress, The House, the senate, you got to have governors, state legislative leaders, you got to have Attorney Generals. So, our focus is that we went up and down that ticket. But up and down the ticket not just the white House Flavment is why we wanted to do this early so the money can be used to build out the Grass Root operations that are necessary. And to give confidence to our folk that we are standing with them in these very, very crucial elections. And i am hearing a lot of that here. I am in houston texas, today. Lets stay with that. The latest fcc filings from The End of july showed that the dnc had raised nearly 317 Million this election cycle. The republican national committee has raised 291 million. Democrats enjoying a Cash Advantage going into last month, this weekend the Harris Campaign reported that it pulled in more than 360 Million in august. Nearly three times what the Trump Campaign reported for the month. And coming from a diverse Grass Roots coalition of nearly 3 Million donors, a third of them giving to harris for the first time. 60 women, and 20 republicans or independents. What do the numbers tell you about democrats financial strength going into this Campaign Homestretch . Rev, what it says, the enthusiasm and the motivation is on our side. A lot of this money, Grass Roots donations, coming from grandmas, grandpas, giving 10 or more here and there. We have more cash but we have a better infrastructure on the ground. Grassroots infrastructure for the last 31 2 years the dnc has been working on Joe Biden, harris, now that harris is ahead of our nominee on building a grassroots operations in these Battleground States. And, rev, these are the same states in the midterm. And, we knew that we could not tear all of it down we had to build it up. Longterm. Now the republicans are trying to open up offices. The one thing we know in politics you dont get time back. Raise more money, hire more people p. You never get time back. We used this time effectively to build build topnotch, that i believe it will be the difference maker. I am really, really excited about that. Now, despite previously working for his administration, former South Carolina GovernorNikki Haley spent most of her campaign for the republican nomination defining herself in opposition to Donald Trump. Then, she endorsed him after dropping out. But, with less than two months to go she will not say he is a good candidate, only conceding he is the republican nominee. Take a listen to this. Is it the best use of his time and what is the message to female voters to be going through this again . The focus for me is on policy. Always a candidate. I always said i thought Biden And Trump were great candidates i would not have run for president. You dont think he is a good candidate. I think he is the republican nominee and i think put him against harris who is a Democrat Nominee for me it is not a question. Now, do i agree with his style . Do i agree with his a approach . Communications . No. Mr. Chairman, what do you take from her unenthusiastic assessment of her Partys Nominee . Rev, you know, there are a lot of hypocrites in politics. I can tell you that Nikki Haley is one of the biggest ones. You know, there is a person who allowed Donald Trump to demonize her Husband Serving overseas. He called him all kinds of things and this is the same person that believed that trump would not follow the Constitution Of The United States if he got elected president. And now, she is going to vote for him and endorse him . Listen, i understand party politics, but, in The End of the day and standing up to do the right thing. Nikki haley never understood there. She never had core values to do the right thing. But at The Endest day the american people see through all of there. She has but at The End of the day the american people see through all of this. She has shown that she is just somebody who is Try Doing be important in politics and that is a sad Statement And Closing chapter i think to Nikki Haleys political career. That coming from a fellow South Carolinan and our guest from this segment, thank you mr. Chairman of the democratic committee, thank you, again. Coming up, Vice President harris is not doing well with groups democrats usually win. My panel joins me next to discuss what it will take for her to turn things around. My political panel breaks down the latest polling in the president ial race and shares the Debate Night predictions. Inez, let me ask you, youre using Head Shoulders, right . Only when i see flakes. Then i switch back to my regular shampoo. You should use it every wash, otherwise the flakes will come back. Hes right, you know. Is that tiny troy . The ingredients in Head Shoulders keep the microbes that cause flakes at bay. Microbes, really . Theyre always on your scalp. But good news, theres no itchiness, dryness or flakes down here. I love tiny troy. And his tiny gorgeous hair. Make every Wash Count and for stubborn dandruff, try Head Shoulders clinical strength. 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The New York TimesPoll Shows trump leading the Vice President by a single point. Well within the margin of error and the numbers from the crucial 7 Swing States reflecting just how tight the race is with the candidates tied or harris holding the lead. The strategy for the Bush Cheney Campaign and now a senior Contributor And Analyst of msnbc and Leader And Ceo of all in together. Matthew, lets start with The General race numbers. You worked on campaigns, what do you think about the numbers . Is it a Warning Sign for the Harris Campaign . They could be Pat Plateauing or is this what we expect . Every single you get in 58 days until the Race Everyone is smart not to take anything for granted and act even if they are not, act as if they are the underdog. I would discount a bit the New York Times poll. A singular poll. I dont think at there point in time it is healthy to look at only one poll. I think if you look at the eight or nine polls credible poll that have been done since the convention they showed the Vice President with an average 3. Lead i think that is what the race s. She has a three Point Lead in this. One of the reasons that the New York Times poll has trump up one is they have republicans more, they have 4 more republicans in the poll than democrats and no other poll has shown that. They shown democrats with higher degree of enthusism of the poll. I think she still has a lead, three points, but also in a close race that it will be decided by no more than three or 31 2 points. Always important not to take anything for granted. Lauren, the Vice President has made up ground since biden dropped out. But the numbers are still lags other candidates. With women, young people, voters of color, groups that voted heavily democratic s. There is a disconnect here . If so, what is driving it. We can not forget she has been run figure are president for five weeks. It is an incredibly and compressed period of time. Part of what the polls show, and i agree with everything that you said is time is negative and i disagree that the times made that the times points out that 28 of voters say they need to learn more about harris compared to just 9 who said the same about trump. They painted it as a negative i think it is a huge opportunity for harris because she is new to the race she has an opportunity to continue to define herself, to win over more voters, she is campaigning aggressively in the Battleground States and around the country. Most voters have a pretty set view of Donald Trump. I dont think there is much that he can do on tuesday to change americans minds about who he is where harris has actually room to grow on that front. She does have to secure the votes of young people, she is leading among all of the groups that you put up even those margins are not that big. We are still in the beginning days for her. She has time. Voters will start voting soon. The time window is narrow t. Is part of what makes the stakes high for her on tuesday. I think there are signs of strength and i agree with math. This one poll should not be overblown. Now, matthew, lets look ahead to the debate. Trump advises or reportedly concerned he could hurt himself by Veering Off of Talking Points or going into personal attacks. This week the former president does not seem to be very unifying person when it comes to his mood. Just last night he was posting on truth social about prosecuting his political opponents and sentencing them to prison. What version of trump are you expecting to see on tuesday . The same. He has not changed since he came down the escalator in 2015. He will be who he is. That is why opinions of him are locked in. I agree with what was just said. Not a lot of things he can do to change that. If he sort of does his typical Chaos And Cruelty and courseness and he is who he is and he will be who he is, i dont think it will hurt him, i think what they worry about highlights a different personality in the Vice President. So, every time he does that, i dont think it will diminish his numbers, his numbers are set. He will get the 44, 45, 46, maybe 47 of the vote that is where he is locked in at. What it can do is when the highlight goes to her, she can highlight the differences that her Personality And Tone is from him. So, if he does that, it is only going to help her highlight the best in the best in the best, in the best in the most poz things in herself. Lauren, Harris Campaign reportedly had been looking for ways to get under trumps skin in the debate. And, the Vice President has also, delivering her own message at the same tiement. 30 of. 30 people need to know more. 63 need to know more about her policies. How can she answer these questions and respond forcefully from the attacks and insults that come from the podium . There is no question it is going to be an incredible challenge for her. That is why she is preparing, she is the first woman of color to lead a president Ial Ticket in american history and she is running against somebody with a long history of sexist and racist attacks, how to respond to that is a salute tight rope for her as it was for Hillary Clinton in 2017 that later said regretted she did not push back when he was lurking over her and bullying her. She has to do that, hit back at him hard. That is how she shows her strength and she can not go too far that is the double standard that women face when they are running as principals, last, she has to talk about her policies even though there is a double standard in the media about the Word Salad of nonsense that we hear constantly from President Trump and the narrative has been on many Media Platforms she is the one who has to prove more about what her policies are. So, it is a really and by the way he is going to lie nonstop throughout the debate as he has done in every debate he has ever participated in. It will be a challenge for her to think about where to push back, where to call out his lies, if he says the same lies about abortion, wild and crazy things that biden did not push back on in the last debate. It is a nightmare. If anyone is up for the task it is her. A prosecutor, she is poised and i think will handle it. We have to recognize the stakes are high for her. They are pretty low for him. He just has to clear a basic bar of competence that has been lowered for him again and again. It will be a tough night and a lot to watch. Im out of time but let me ask you both, a lot said in the media about muting of the mikes, if it should be muted or should not be muted. Matthew, then you lauren, what is in your opinion, what will the impact of the question of muting the mikes have to do with it one way or mics have to do with it one way or the snrgt. She knows what she is doing, she is strong in this. They would prefer it but not much impact on the debate results. Lauren . I agree. Whatever the answer is, there will be Wednesday Morning quarterbacks about it. There will be chaos, always is with debates like this and debating somebody who has a lot of difficulty with the truth. So, there is no right answer, both sides will do the best with what they finally agreed on. Chaos and Donald Trump and you act like those are two different words. Thank you both for being with us. 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In just two days Vice PresidentKamala Harris and former president Donald Trump will take to the Debate Stage for their first faceoff of the 2024 campaign. I wanted to let you know that msnbc will have Rachel Maddow lead a team of analysts, before and after the debate. You can tune in this coming Tuesday Beginning at 7 00 p. M. Eastern on msnbc to catch the coverage. But, just ahead, while the Harriswalz Campaign is looking to gain ground with latino voters we will talk to the Deputy Chair of the hispanic office about how to craft a winning message. We will be right back. Winning message. We will be right back. On my car insurance. Good thing The General gives you a break with flexible payment options. Lets get you a break while you wait. What is this place . This is our dmvip. Vending Machine Charcuterie . For a great low rate, go with The General. A perfect day for a Family Outing shingles doesnt care. But shingrix protects. Only shingrix is proven over 90 effective. 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I was in allen town, pennsylvania yesterday, and we were campaigning for the Vice President and we see some momentum on the ground but as you know with Tuesdays DebateComing Up it is now crunch time. And, we need to really mobilize everybody. We can not have a Cooker Cutter Approach to the latino communities because you communicate to a Puerto Rican voter different than you communicate with a dominican voter, even within the mexican community, those from texas and california may have different priorities. And, so, we must be laser focused in developing a message that resinates in those particular communities. It is a good start, we need to do better. Now, staying with the poll that the top five issues latinos care about are pretty much the same as most americans. And inflation, jobs, health care. And crime. As well as housing. Do you think the campaign has done a good job recognizing the issues that latino voters care about and on the subject of immigration is her support of the bipartisan Border Bill popular with latino communities . Well, i would start with the last first. There is support for immigration reform. Including a border security. I think latinos are not different than many other americans. They want the border to be secure. They want families to they together. And the biden harris Border Bill is one that strengthens security there and president biden also, assigned an Executive Order that gives 500,000 spouses of u. S. Citizens the ability not to go back home to regularize their stat us and to be able to get a Work Permit as well as 50,000 children. This is a good balance approach. The other thing that we can do under immigration reform. But most people want a balanced approach. Regards to the other issues, you are right. Latinos are no different, they want education for their kids, they dont want the goods they burn at the bodega to be too high. They want to make sure crime is down, their neighborhoods are safe. No different than any other person. Health care, access to health care, high incidents of diabetes, they are happy it is capped at 35. These are things we have to resinate in a sensitive way. Now, republicans are sending a very different message to latino voters right now. I want to play this ad that the Trump Campaign is airing, take a listen. Suspect charged in laken rileys murder, illegally entered the united states back in 2022. The Texas Grand Jury indicted ramaro, accused of attacking 16yearold by reportedly hitting her head and stabbing her. [ laughter ] so, lets get our in additions together about what we are talking about. About wh we are talking about. And, in a Rally Yesterday former President Trump explained that he reported mentions of the vicessal serial Killer Hannibal Lecter meant to refer to migrant mentions fictional Killer Hannibal Lecter neent refer to migrants. He wants to make it with crime and disarray. That is absolutely no evidence of that, that is the case. But, people are much smarter than that. I think people will read through that. The Latino Community will feel offended by that as they have already. And the main goal right now is to over perform to make sure our community comes out to vote in record numbers. That is why we are working on, back in pennsylvania a key state, every weekend to make sure that we overperform. Congress has until The End of the month to pass a Spending Bill to keep it running. Republican speaker Mike Johnson is pushing a bill that includes proof of Citizenship Requirement for Voter Registration and addon by former President Trump. That is likely to be dead on arrival. Illegal for a noncitizen to register to vote. Is this a Voter Intimidation Tactic targeting the Latino Community . This is voters, they may not feel comfortable going to vote. Perhaps they have someone in their family that is undocumented and they are afraid for them. There is absolutely no evidence of massive Voting Fraud among imgrants, never mind among undocumented imgrants. I immigrants. With fear that they will be deported there is hogwash, this Is Trump Being trump. And in spanish all over again congressman of New York. Democrat of New York. Home congressman of our national headquarters of the network, thank you for being with us. My final thoughts, next, stay with us with us. My final thoughts, next, stay with us with Nurtec Odt, i found relief. The only Migraine Medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. To those with migraine, i see you. For the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of Episodic Migraine in adults. 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The issues are more important than the drama. I ran in 2004 primaries when the debate happens on tuesday i will be watching it as one that was on that stage in 2004 debating the other democratic contenders and what i learned is that you must have a balance of Defense And Offense like if you win a Football Game or boxes match. Have a strong offense but be able to defend. Dont let your offense overpower your defense where you get hit with a sucker punch. And, what i will be watching for is the skill that Vice President harris has to defend herself against a guy who is a bully and to be able, at the same time, put out the content and programs that shes laid out clearly to the american people for so long. I will be watching, i will be hoping that the public is watching and can make an assessment of who should lead this country the next four years. That does it for me. Thanks for watching. I will see you back here next saturday and sunday at 5 00 p. M. 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