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Welcome back to the weekend. The Harriswalz Campaign is ramping up its efforts to expose project 2025 ahead of next weeks debate. This week of action aims to connect the extreme plan of Donald Trumps file in his own image. And the campaign is entering this alone. It is relying on thousands of volunteers to pick up shifts, at the Campaign Host 2000 event in swing states. The goal . Worn more than 1 Million battleground voters of what a possible second Trump Term would look like. As Vice President Kamala Harris puts it, just imagine Donald Trump with no guard rails. Joining us now, mayor wiley, president of the Leadership Conference on civil and human rights. She is also former assistant u. S. Attorney and she brings the power every time she comes to the table. So nice to see you. It is wonderful to be at the power table. There we go. Happy to have you. I am lucky, look at all of the ladies at the table this morning. What you think about this michael talked about the guardrails of the Vice President talked about, lets play what she had to say about Donald Trump vowing to be a dictator on day one. He has openly vowed to be a dictator on day one, he has said he would into the independence of the Department Of Justice, united Dates Department of justice. So, he could have the unchecked power to seek vengeance against people who disagree with him. He even called for, im going to quote now, the termination of the constitution of the united states of america. Well, you know, you wont need to vote anymore after Donald Trump becomes president. I think what you are seeing and hearing is exactly part of what is happening in this race is helping to demonstrate what is at stake, but also how and this is the next level down, i think, of Conversation And Communication that is, i think we are going to hear from the campaign, but certainly we should, is how it is going to impact everyday peoples lives. For example, this point about the Department Of Justice, it can seem high level and disconnected from ordinary people until that Department Of Justice criminalizing you for voting. One of the things and projects 2025, for example, is that, not only can the president basically the Department Of Justice his own personal prosecutorial tool, it shifts what we want in the civil Rights Act of 1964, which is the creation of the Enforcement Power of Department Of Justice shenanigans trying to control any voter, and that they want to take that from the civil Rights Division and make it a prosecutorial act to go after voters, and we have seen that interest me, being told that she could lawfully vote, black woman, told by The System that she could vote, shows up to vote and then gets prosecuted for voting. Now, imagine federalizing that. That is the kind of thing that is about real people, is about every day lives, it is not remote, it is not distant, and so, it is a clear and present danger, and this election will determine what happened. Is also new information. And one of the things we know is that voters who have not yet made up their mind are open to new information, that it is not enough for Kamala Harris to get on the Debate Stage and talk about what Donald Trump did in his first term, she needs to talk about what he is proposing to do in his second term and a lot of that we know from the reporting she is planning, this is our Friend Planning to bring up projects 2025 on the Debate Stage as she makes the case, because that is new information. It is one thing to say at the u. S. Mexico border, it is another thing to say that his plan is to separate american families at the interior, it is one thing to say that he let a violent mob to the capitol on January 6th and another to say that he debunked the Department Of Justice, such that he can leverage it to go after his enemies and make sure that protections are not in place for people who need them, that becomes new information. It is new information, and they are the additional opportunities to really teach, once again, how it is going to impact ordinary people. For example, in project look, if you look at who is undecided in this race, the 18 or so, who are undecided, who are centrist lots of people of color, and lots of people who are white, but the Authoritarianism Isnt necessarily what is motivating them. To decide. What is motivating them to decide is how is it going to impact my life, my cost is, the way i am living, which is a struggle, and in project 2025 you are going to lose Overtime Pay. Well, if you are a working person, many of the folks in this category do not have a College Degree or do not have a four year degree. They are Wage Earners right . They are laborers, they are workers. Losing Overtime Pay is a major way, people are just paying the rent. Those kinds of things, getting the ability of the to attack employers who are making your Work Life more dangerous and less safe. Talk to Construction Workers about how dangerous their jobs are and whether they need occupational safety regulations and the enforcement of that at the federal level, these are things that are in project 2025, because what it is seeking to do is dismantle the ability of the federal government to protect us. It is not just the Overtime Pay, losing your Overtime Pay. You could lose your job. Correct. We had the Heritage President at our Table Bragging that oh, there are 2 Million federal workers. At least 1 Million of them should be fired. We will start with 50,000, but at least 1 Million should be fired. But i think to your point, my rent, in terms of, it is not just the piece over here that may deal with federal employees or the piece over here that may touch on abortion, the Harris Campaign has an at out where they try to frame that narrative that you talked about. Lets take a quick listen to her projects 2025 ad. Trumps project 2025 agenda will give him unchecked political agenda with no guardrails and take Black Americans backward. It would strip away our Voting Rights Protections that eliminate department of education. It would also require to monitor womens pregnancies and rip away Health Coverage for millions. Kamala harris will stand up to trump and his dangerous plans to control our lives, because trump is out for himself, while Kamala Harris is for the people. To that point about people who are not being motivated around the authoritarian aspect of it, it is, who is in this for me . Who is out here fighting for me . And shes trying to let folks know, it is not him. And theres a lot of contractor that she can draw, both pulling out a project 2025 and how that is really the plan and the platform. Right. And they control that. You can move all you want and that segment you all did was so illuminating right . And so important, but it is that it is that last line. He has for himself. She is for the people. That is the core of the message, and all that they can elevate out to draw that contrast in very plain terms. Childcare, we just had childcare, right . Did we . Yeah we yes, we did. We had a demonstration. He was asked about it. Jade events though, said what people need to do is get their grandparents in baltimore that will fix our Childcare Issue. I mean, my motherinlaw is very helpful to money, but shes retired okay . She didnt retire to watch all of the children. But remind people, remind people, they want to raise the Retirement Age before you can get social security benefits, by years, but then tell you those same people who have to work longer who retire into poverty should come at the same time be taking care of their grandkids, how is that going to work . Take care of my grandkids. Let me ask you about i just drew a venn diagram, because i did not have on my bingo card, Dick Cheney in 2024 endorsing the democratic candidate for president. It is one thing to say, as we talked about that you are not going to vote for Donald Trump is a republican, but Dick Cheney, former Vice President of the united states of america, the republican president , has said, i am voting for Kamala Harris, his daughter, liz cheney, congresswoman former congresswoman, she is also voting for Kamala Harris. Tent is awful big. It is huge. Alexandria ocasiocortez, Dick Cheney, it is the coalition. So, any election turns on coalition building. The headline here is there is a very big tent coalition. That is a very, very good sign for the Harris Campaign, it is a very bad sign for the Donald Trump campaign, but at the same time, we know, it is still a tossup election. It is going to be very close, and frankly, it is about turnout. I think the polling and the kind of battling for harris, great week for harris, but week for trump, we are not hearing that enough, the actual comparison of what is happening in the campaign for each candidate, but at this point it is it actually drives exactly to the point of that ad, and i would expect to see that had that you just showed updated to have Dick Cheneys picture in it, because the reasoning he is not a agreeing on all of the Policy Positions of Kamala Harris, he is agreeing that it is time that we actually have a true bipartisanship around whether or not we are going to have democracy. Dick cheney, he has endorsed turning the page. Thank you so much, we appreciate you being here. Next folks, justice delayed again. Donald trump of the sentencing in his New York hush Money Trial delayed until after the election. Michael has some thoughts and Andrew Wiseman joins us at the table next to discuss. And later, senator, Amy Klobuchar, she will join us to talk about the Vice President s reproductive rights Bus Tour. This, folks, is the weekend On Msnbc. Sentencing Donald Trump Hole 2016 Election Interference Case has been delayed. Yet again. It again. Yesterday, judge One Merchan announced his sentencing on the Felony Counts has been pushed out back to 26. Sentencing it was set for the 11th, but Donald Trumps team asked for more time to appeal. Joining us now to break it down is Andrew Wiseman, a former senior Mentor Member of the new York University podcast msnbcs prosecuting Donald Trump. Lee some jobs for everybody else. All right, i know how michael feels about this. You have caution very quiet, hes very quiet about it. Silver lining here, which is, this means the Supreme Court cannot engage in this case before the election. Make that pitch to me. Okay, so, one, theres no question people who think that the judges by the way, i love that theres two people looking at me like, what on gods green earth you say. Theres no question that Donald Trump, in this case is being treated differently. I mean, that argument, is he being treated like Anyone Else . That is impossible to make that argument. And one wage, you have Judge Chuck and in dc saying im treating him like everyone else, and she did, with One Merchan, there is no question that, but for the political calendar this would not have been put off. The reason i think theres a Silver Lining is that there wasnt just a sentencing that was going to happen that was scheduled, there was also this issue of the Immunity Motion that is pending. And that is the thing that there was a lot of skirmishing this week about whether there would be a stay, and whether that issue would get teed up and the judge has said im going to deal with that. That issue is the one that could likely have gone to the Supreme Court. There could be all sorts of meddling. We have already seen judge cannon, already said seen the Supreme Court of the president ial Immunity Decision being, i think incredibly political. Capitol p, political. And having the courts delay the sentencing to get their hands on it. When i say the courts i mean like the Supreme Court to reverse this and say, you know, this was improperly brought and whatever kind of garbage they are going to say could be in connection with their Immunity Decision, which is sort of outlandish, because remember, this case was not about anything that Donald Trump did as president , it was all personal conduct. To have the Supreme Court get its hands on it preelection, to say, This Is It you know what, hes not really a felon, and getting rid of this, it is one of the effect is this all gets decided later, and in a lower volume setting. In other words, post election, when, if trump has lost, this sort of less political heat, and i also think michael is about to speak with me, i want to correct myself, because my dyslexia kicked in, September 18th is when it originally happen, but that was the second this is now the second time it has been rescheduled, because there were supposed to be a sentencing in july it was scheduled towards the 18th and now it is September 6 we have patty take this man all the way through this process our courts have exposed their rear in more than i have ever seen them do for anybody and it makes absolutely no sense. So, let it go to the Supreme Court. Let them monkey around with it, so that we can deal with that at the Ballot Box. If they want if they want to show their political hand, force their political hand. Do not give this man more cachet than any other he is he is a former president , which means he is no different than anyone sitting at this table. And the fact that, as the court says, the imposition of sentence will be adjourned to avoid any appearance, however unwarranted. So, the fact that you have to tell me that, all right . Goes on to say that the proceeding has been affected by, or seeks to affect the approaching president ial election, this has nothing to do you wouldnt do this if a governor was a Candidate Running for governor was in the exact same position. If a candidate was running for u. S. Senate was in the exact same position. Theres no difference in those offices, in terms of the judicial system. So, why . Andrew, why does this court this judicial system, which Donald Trump has pumped from day one, with all of the you know, the excess appeals and the bogus crap that he raises, you know, we see it now playing out with e. Jean Carroll Case yet again. Want us to trust The System, but as a citizen, i am looking at it and going, that is not going to happen to me if i am in that position. So, everything you are saying i agree with, and since that the judicial system of this country, compared to many, many other countries that have figured out how to hold political leaders to account and do it in a timely way, we get an f. We have done a terrible job, i would say the New York criminal case is actually the best of them. Because it actually went forward, but everything else we look ridiculous to the world. And you can compare it to brazil, argentina, italy, france, i mean, there are all of these countries that have figured out israel. It they have taken a while. They have taken a minute. There is you know, October 7th happen, but Benjamin Netanyahu would not be the current prime minister. You are absolutely right, and the and you can definitely get behind the idea of like, you know what, just treat him like everyone else. Hunter biden has already gone to trial and been convicted and he is the son of the sitting resident. Without all of these shenanigans. So, in terms of faith in our system, it is we already were in a bad place. So, im not saying you are wrong, im trying to say that there is a potential upside, in terms of the Supreme Court, we know now how political they are. The president ial Immunity Decision is is it is hard to describe how fundamentally wrong that is, and how much it changes the way our checks and balances are supposed to work. You have the sitting president of united states on the day of the decision coming out making a speech, saying, you know what . I as a president , do not need this power, i should not have this power, and this is wrong. So that, that issue of like the Supreme Court on the Ballot Box, in terms of how political they are, and that is not even getting to dobbs. Right . Is already there. And so, i think that one of the sort of Silver Linings of this is that, the chances of this case not being reversed, of Donald Trump getting a Jail Sentence go up with this being put off. I am not justifying treating him differently. I think you have a completely fair point. I mean, i listened to judge Check In in the Dc Case saying, when Donald Trumps lawyers said we are talking about the presidency here, she goes, you might be talking about the presidency, im talking about a four count indictment. And we are going to have a schedule and i dont care about the political calendar. Judge chutkan does not feel that way. I think if Donald Trump does not feel that way, do you think hes going to put him in Prison Or Anything stringent if he is the President Elect . Okay. No. Andrew wiseman, as always, thank you. All right, andrew is the host of prosecuting Donald Trump podcast, you can download it right now, wherever you get your podcasts. And next, senator, Amy Klobuchar is here to join us at the table in New York, to discuss her role in Vice President harriss reproductive rights Bus Tour. The endorse and is turning into trumps biggest dilemma. You are watching the weekend. Music Playing one in five children worldwide are faced with the reality of living without food, no family dinners, no special treats, not enough energy to play. All around the world, hunger is affecting childrens physical and Mental Health. Toddlers are suffering from acute malnutrition, which stunts their growth. Kids are forced to drop out of school so they can help support their families. Conflict, inflation and climate have ignited the worst famine in our lifetime, and we are Fed Up Fed Up that hunger devours dreams. Fed up, that hunger destroys joy. Fed up with the fact that hunger eats childhood. 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He is one who got us into this Mess And One who has clearly stated, clearly on video just last year that he was probably the one responsible for overturning Roe V wade. And florida, you are going to hold him to it. Senator, Amy Klobuchar, minnesota, she will join us now, thank you, senator. Thank you, it is great to be on. So, how is the best were going, as someone who spent 45 days on the bus in 2010 . Not for the democrats. We want to say which bus, but it is a very powerful way to connect with voters. I have always liked the idea of Showing Up in someones backyard, you know, and having, sort of the Family Picnic altogether. What has been that experience . How is that messaging being received . Not just to the partisans, those who are already on board with harriswalz, but to the voters, because we have been talking about coalition building, we talked about liz and Dick Cheney, for example, we saw republicans, like myself, i would never republicans in my framing at the democratic convention, lieutenant governor, duncan, and others, this is part of this coalition now. How is that messaging resonating, particularly given the sort of the focus of this Post Work . Really strongly. You look at that first event, 10 miles from maralago, right in his backyard, to make the case that he is the one responsible for doing this. You look at where the bus went places like jacksonville, going to raleigh, North Carolina next. And you are seeing a turnout of people, i had them come up to me in florida, they were like okay, i have been voting republican, but i am voting yes on amendment four, that is the one that make sure that you get rid of this extreme the one that what Donald Trump was all over that next you look at the facts, in kansas, when people turn out in droves, you look at what happened in ohio, 13 point margin, those werent just democrats, wisconsin Supreme Court, those were independence, moderate republicans turning out and they we believe in freedom, we dont like where our party is going and we will but with the democrats on this amendment and if you note withand liz cheney, with adam kinsinger, and all of the number of republicans that are coming out we are going to vote for Kamala Harris. And Thea Butler had this on tuesday On Msnbc, the Abortion Debate is becoming what trumps greatest alanna, because he knows that cecconi and policies of his evangelical base are not popular, which prompted him to say, unconvincingly that the Trump Administration would be great for women and reproductive rights, but he those white, evangelical voters to stick by his side. Trumps frenetic shifting on the Issue Isnt about a lack of knowledge but about desperation. I agree with that. He seems quite desperate. Is like seconds he is a couple republican endorsement away from being like whatever you need, actually i am a woman, what is going on . He is frenetic is such a good word. It is 1headline in the next headline, but it is important for people to understand where he really is, and as a former prosecutor of Kamala Harris, i would just lay out the evidence, exhibit a, exhibit a, he said he was going to overturn Roe V wade, exhibit b, he put the justices on that did it, and a ritzy, he said he was probably the person responsible for doing it, i rest my case. That is it. He is someone who has said he is going to do it, and he did it, and theres all kinds of things he says in between to try to get voters with him, but the facts are the fact on where he is on abortion. We have been talking about the map and how the map has continued to shift. You are pretty bullish on florida, i was intrigued listening to some of your comments out there on the trail. They are the numbers, theres also what happens when you talk to voters what is it that is making you confident about florida . Well, it is obviously we are pushing to move ahead but the poles are getting closer in the senate race, with Debbie Misko who is a fantastic candidate. You have got the medicare issue, which is huge down there. You have got the fact that it is the Bidenharris Administration that pushed on pharmaceutical prices, and then you have this abortion issue, with this sixweek extreme van. Most women dont even though there at that point. That is important, because we have the Ballot Measure on the ballot. You go to georgia and there, you see again, pulls getting closer and closer, Kamala Harris doing so well down there. And Joe Biden had already won georgia once. He voted North Carolina, where they have an extreme Candidate Running for governor. And all of this is really coming back to haunt them and opening up the map in the south , as well as we know, the midwest, west, for Kamala Harris. You look at the numbers and nevada, you look at the improvements in arizona. It just allows them to stretch the map to these other states. You also have a big issue, like cannabis on a lot of ballots across the country. So, you have not just this appeal for the issue of around freedom and abortion, but you also have that personal Freedom Argument around, you know, how i want to spend my evening, you know . Ive got a little Something Something make you feel a little bit better about my day. And that is resonating with a lot of voters out there. I mean, so it is not i think my point is, it is not just as some want to paint this sort of narrow play to abortion rights, but i am taking away from it, looking at it as chairman is like, the overarching theme of freedom, and it is very i think this is what makes it a little bit easier for republicans like myself to sort of come into this lane, because it aligns with where we have always been that, at The End of the day, whether, you know the senate may or may not disagree on a policy, we do fundamentally agree that individual rights and liberties and freedoms are paramount. And i think that messaging seems to carry a lot more sway, with the Coalition Voters that you are seeking exactly. And you go there, they are the freedom to vote. The i was thinking of liz cheneys words, and how important that is, it is part of the freedoms that you know, you have different candidates, you should be able to make a sane decision about who you like better, without a lot of lies and then you should be able to vote, so, when you have them in reverend Warnocks Race in georgia, ending voting on a saturday Out Of The Blue in The End and he has to fight in court to get that done or one Ballot Box in the county with houston, in texas, it is like having one Ballot Box in the middle of my entire state. With the number of people that live there. Those kinds of things resonate, or the Camo Clad people in the lines in arizona, you wonder, in 2022, that mattered. 30 Something Percent of people say they voted democratic, because of the freedom to vote, because they didnt want to have an assault on our democracy, and that is what you are hearing from a number of republicans who, ill be at may not agree with every single policy, but they believe as patriots, and that is the most important thing, that we uphold our democracy. Are democrats winning the senate . Yes. So, i am on record, saying, that is a bigger play for the democrats than people may realize. So, we make it another second you and i discussed this. We want you to stick around, because next we wants to turn to some of the Vice Presidency of this economic policies and her proposals there, including a big Tax Break for Small Business owners. Details, coming up next, right here on the weekend, with Senator Club which are. 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She also plans to create a 28 capitol Gains Tax for people making over 1 Million. Here she is, talking about the benefits of the plan on friday. The economists have talked about my plan, that my plans will actually reduce the deficit by 1 trillion. As compared to my opponent, who can keep, because he gives Tax Prayer to the richest people not contributing to the middle class, because of course, teachers and nurses and firefighters should not be paying more in taxes than the richest people in our country. Senator Amy Klobuchar is back with us and you will notice i did not comment on the 20 millionaire thing, but we will not have that conversation. I have to say, i love that last point with her was on angel baby, we often talk about the fact that she needs to be talking to communities of color and this is a great example of that. Are you saying that was an interview that the Vice President did, because i hear she doesnt do those. Are we going to talk about the plan . Okay. So, that, the Small Business plan, i met with a bunch of Small Businesses in bristol outside of philadelphia, yesterday. And people are really excited about this, why . Yes, there is a major Tax Break for startups, which we won in this country, because if you really believe in capitalism, as i do, you want to have competition, you want to have it easy for new companies to get in, but beyond that, which hasnt gotten a lot of attention, easier stallones for Small Businesses when they want to expand, and getting through red tape, which a lot of the Small Business owners are figuring out ways to make it easier for them to do their filings to do things that the government might be required to create exemptions to make it easier to start and expand and maintain a Small Business. And i want to underscore this is for communities, but communities of color who have traditionally not have access to big banks it is especially critical. When you talk about the redtape, this plan, it is something i know that you are passionate about, you and the Vice President have worked on some of these issues over these last years. She has had a Laser Focus on Small Businesses, Small Businesses who are frankly they were hit some of the worst, decimated by the covid19 pandemic, and while all of this money came for Recovery Efforts to get people back afloat, now folks want to drive and you talk about the big banks, this also works with some of the smaller banks as well, to get them into the pipeline for Small Businesses who are doing business with those small banks so that they too have access to this opportunity. Exactly and you look at the fact that nearly half of the jobs in this country are Small Business jobs and that we have seen explosive growth with new applications in just the last few Years Post Pandemic and people are ready to go. So now we have to take it into the next race, which includes childcare access, housing, all of those kinds of things. Mark human was actually on tv and he said this is the first president ial candidate, of course he has endorsed her that has had this Laser Focus on entrepreneurship. I coach him at the on entrepreneurship caucus, with tim scott, something you might not have known, in the u. S. Senate, and i just think there has got to be a bigger focus on this. And it really grows across the board. So many of the patents, they come up with new ideas. We want to promote this and how we handle competition in our country, but we also want to make it easier for them to start up. Theres going to be a lot of Discussion And Debate rightly, i think around the Value Proposition of this plan, how this plan is going to be paid for. What the impact is ultimately going to be on Small Businesses, with respect to, you know, tax credits, versus you know, Capitol Gains increases, etc. But not to be outdone, you mentioned childcare, Donald Trump has a plan for childcare, can we listen to Donald Trumps plan for childcare for just a moment . Is a very important issue, but i think when you talk about the kind of numbers that im talking about, that because the Childcare Is childcare, it couldnt you know, it is something you have to have it, in this country you have to have it, but when you talk about those numbers, compared to the kind of numbers that im talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they are not used to, but they will get used to it very quickly and it is not going to stop them from doing business with us, but they will have a very substantial tax when they sent product into our country, those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers we are talking about it including childcare, that it will Take Care i look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time. So, senator, just so everybody understands, what you heard there was 45 seconds of a two Minute Answer on childcare, which is not an answer to the question on childcare. In fact. They asked a specific plan. A specific plan, but the plan he did offer up was to impose a 10 Acrosstheboard Terrace to pay for child care, because well, the tariff on china . Childcare is childcare. That is a plan right there, folks. We know theres a lack of childcare, theres deserts in the rural areas, as well as urban and suburban. And to me there is really exciting things going on working with business right now. So, we can put in place more incentives, businesses are actually starting to build, or join together to build Childcare Centers or add onto private, more likely they are not running them themselves, we should create incentives to make it easier for people to afford, because they want the workers, it is that simple. Doesnt matter how qualified you are, if you dont have a good place to bring your kids, you dont go to work. What he is present there with a bludgeon of a terrified there is a good place for tariffs, i have supported some tariffs i think it is really important, but the way hes done this, as Kamala Harris has pointed out and other economists have pointed out, it is actually going to add taxes to the american people, it is going to make it more expensive for them, which is going to make it harder for them to afford childcare, and i dont think you saw a lot of applause for this particular Acrossthe Board Terrace from the business community, because they know the consequences. So, i would much rather, and maybe this is more of a republican view of the past, create incentives for these Childcare Centers to basically expand and be created and blossom and make it easier for people to afford it, than go this route that hes talking about, then i think will have the opposite effect. I want to underscore something that the senator said, which was talking about the economist who have weighed in on this question, this is from friday, whoever wins in november will likely inherit a slowing economy, but experts warned that trumps policies could push the u. S. Into a Trade War that could raise inflation and weaken the economy. Goldman sachs economist this week said a Harris Presidency would be better for growth than a trump 2. 0 presidency would be. This point about pushing the economy further over the brink and raising inflation, we have seen Donald Trumps Tariffs Policy before. Impose these tariffs in 2017 on china exactly, and listen, it hurt farmers. Midwestern farmers got so many bailouts from the federal government, because of the tariffs, and Donald Trump is like farmers let me, they are getting paid, but it was the opposite effect. This is not hyperbole, we have got examples. Yes, you want to use tariffs, but you have got you look at each case and how you use them instead of this across theboard bludgeon. There they are industry specific and they are related to a broader global policy, not just a domestic one, and that is something i dont think Donald Trump actually understands and it was evident when he was asked about how he would deal with childcare. And the answer was incoherent. That is not also that is not an opinion, that is a fact. An incoherent answer. We heard it. Senator, Amy Klobuchar, good to have you. Thank you for coming. All right, we have more ahead on the weekend and one quick reminder about the msnbc special coverage of Tuesdays President ial debate between Vice President , Kamala Harris and X President , Donald Trump, hosted by abc news. Rachel maddow will leave Coverage And Analysis starting tuesday, 7 00 p. M. Eastern, right here on On Msnbc and then we will simulcast the debate starting at 9 00. Hope you tune in. 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Because the reality of it is, if you are making the claim that you are now forcing women in whatever Situation Or Condition they may have happened to find themselves to carry their child to term, then you had better have some childcare ready to Take Care of that Child And Help that woman and that family survive, because you cannot do this in isolation. You cannot look at the country and tell young women or old women, anyone that we control your body, and your choices. And when we now you execute on that, you have to live with the consequences by yourself. We have no system in place to help you. So, childcare just isnt childcare, Childcare Is a commitment that we make as a society and that the government supports that commitment by creating the appropriate incentives, as the senator said to make sure no family is left behind, and no family of lost, regardless of the situation or circumstance. So, Yall Need to get it right, republicans, ive been telling you that for 10, 20 years now, and you sure better listen, because you are going to lose this november because you havent been paying attention to where the countrys. Expected events this week, im not even being funny, he said, well, maybe peoples grandparents can help out, you know, maybe they can just do a little what if you dont have any grandparents, what if your grandparents are dead, who am i going to help . What if your grandparents are working, because they cant afford to retire . What if your grandparents are like, but it is just not an option. Why are you shifting it exactly. Exactly. Come on now. Well okay. We could go on. Bill, shes coming. Is he In The House . 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