Forth at Trump Tower today, following a hearing in Federal Court to get his e. Jean Carroll Judgment thrown out. Instead of talking, though, about issues, personal to voters, he spent 49 minutes on himself. Complaining about the judge in the e. Jean carroll case, saying once again, that he never met her. Now claiming the old photo of him and her could have been ai. It wasnt. Claimed he wasnt allowed to use a quote, Monica Lewinsky Type dress in the trial, even though he wanted to, that they, the doj and, quote, kamala and Sleepy Joe and all the rest of them should be looking at china instead of russia and that he hasnt spoken to anybody from russia in years, that jessica leads, the woman who accused him of groping her on an airplane decades ago wouldnt have, quote, been the chosen one, and that the People Magazine Writer who accused him of pushing hep against the wall and groping her at maralago was lying because of after the interview she wrote a perfect story about him where she doesnt mention it. A few of you are asking yourself if he brought any of this up because he was asked about, monica lewinsky, the dress, you would be wrong. Even though Trumps Team billed this as a Press Conference, he didnt take a single question from the press. All of that was stream of consciousness, and ill point out once again, some states are just days away from opening up the polls. Joining us now, nbc News Correspondent, Rehema Ellis outside the courtroom. Nbc News Correspondent Vaughn Hillyard in charlotte, North Carolina, where former President Trump will speak soon there to voters, and msnbc legal continue, lisa rubin. What happened in this Trial Today . Or this Hearing Today . Reporter katy, what happened here today is the attorneys for trump, as well as the attorneys for e. Jean carroll came here to argue before this three panel judges of the appellate court, and it was about the fact that the Trump Team is asking, as you so well pointed out for this judgment against him to be thrown out or at the very least, to have that 5 Million verdict against him reduced. And both teams have about 10 minutes, in order to make their arguments, their presentations, and as you say, the Trump Team went on to say that the information from the Access Hollywood Tape should never have been entered into the trial, the information that two other women accused him of sexually assaulting him, similar to what happened to e. Jean carroll. E. Jean carrolls attorney came back and said, even if all of that were thrown out of the case, the judgment should still stand. It was very interesting that Donald Trump was here. He did not have to be here. He was not here when this case went to trial last year. He didnt spend any time here, but there was a deposition of him that was used in this case. So with all of that, e. Jean carrolls Attorney Arguing that she had 11 witnesses in this case, Donald Trump presented none, that the time to make the argument was last year, and not now. They were asking about the judgment that they got in this case should stand. Thank you very much. Let me play a little bit inside the Hearing Room because we dont often get audio out of these things. This is roberta kaplan, e. Jean carrolls lawyer, and John Sauer who is Donald Trumps lawyer, along with the judge in this case, talking about why the judgment should stand. Im going to warn you, though, there is some coarse language. Mr. Trump is here today. He was given every opportunity by judge kaplan to show up at this trial, and he was even given until 5 00 p. M. On the sunday before closings and didnt show. He had every opportunity to take the stand and rebut the evidence, he did not. He did not put on a single witness. We put on 11. What he did put in is the Video Tape of Access Hollywood where he basically said i grabbed women by the pussy, excuse me my language, and asked about the video, what did he say, he embraced it. The Outcry Witnesses had egregious bias against the defendant, prior Social Media posts and text messages, said things totally unrelated to his case, based on his politics. You had an opportunity to cross examine them in front of jury, right . Yes. But the question is what harmless error could the jury believe but was the Jurys Judgment tainted by the fact that they heard the inflammatory evidence. And one thing this court and other Court Emp emphasizes, the relentlessly hammered the Propensity Evidence, the Access Hollywood Tape. I had the opening statement, i didnt see the relentless hammering. The last female voice is the judge. Explain, what exactly is John Sauer doing here . Hes trying to argu judge Lou Kaplan let in evidence he shouldnt have let in. And excluded evidence, the fact that e. Jean carroll never filed a police report. The oral argument focused on two pieces of evidence, the testimony from jessica leads who accused Donald Trump of Sexual Ly assaulting her on a train, and he was arguing, its Propensity Evidence. Someone who has done something in the past has the propensity to do the same thing again. Usually it doesnt come into a case, except Propensity Evidence with respect to sexual Assault And Rape if certain circumstances are met. And today he was arguing and very technical terms that you didnt read, Why Jessica Leads testimony should come out of the case, why the Access Hollywood Tape should come out of the tape as well. And this is a civil case, so the bar is lower than a criminal court, right . The bar is lower in some respects, but not in others. First of all, a Defamation Verdict in new York State has to be unanimous. So in that respect, it shares a lot with the criminal verdict. The other thing is that the jury had to find that Donald Trump sexually abused e. Jean carroll within the meaning of the criminal statute of new york, even though it wasnt a criminal case. This Monica Lewinsky Type dress, do you know what he was talking about . I know what he was talking about. There was a period of time that she has the dress she wore on the date of the assault. That dress was allegedly subjected to dna testing. It never came into evidence. In part because there were disputes about the reliability of the testing and the dna, but that is, i think, what Donald Trump was talking about in that free associating Press Conference he held. The other bit of legal news we have is out of the hush money sentencing, its been delayed now twice, and delayed once again. What happened there . Judge Juan Merchan deciding to postpone the sentencing until after the election, at Donald Trumps request. The other thing he decided is hes going to postpone his own decision on whether to set aside the verdict because according to trumps lawyers, evidence admitted at the trial is now evidence that should have been excluded under the supreme courts immunity ruling. That decision, too, will be moved until after the election on november 12th. Now, in his decision today, he says, im not doing this for political reasons. If anything, im doing this so nobody can accuse me of interfering with the election. He said its important to avoid any appearance, however unwarranted that the proceeding has been affected by or seeks to affect the approaching president ial election in which the defendant is a candidate. If Donald Trump wins, what happens . Donald trump wins, Judge Merchan can still sentence him on november 26th. What he is going to sentence him to, and whether he will serve that sentence is, i think, a different story. Theres no bar on an elected president serving a sentence. Theres certainly nothing in the constitution that would preclude it, but if theres an argument to be made to the supreme court, i think we know from history, Donald Trumps lawyers will make it. Lets go back to what we saw earlier, vaughn, until the News Conference, and i say News Conference. It wasnt a News Conference it didnt take questions from the press. Was this something that Donald Trump wanted to do . Was it the campaign involved . Why is he going out and speaking for nearly an hour about a judgment and talking about all of the allegations against himself just days before early voting starts in this country . Right. That actually reminds me of the Trump Tower Statement that he made back in june the day after he was convicted on those 34 felony counts. You and i were standing next to Each Other, and were keen on the opportunity to ask questions, and he ended up not taking any that day. Lets be clear. Donald trump is not naive to the fact that any story related to him and his legal battles has oxygen to it, and it is a story. He is not only the former president but the republican nominee for president in 2024. And so for him, he is ensuring, by going out and Trump Tower outside of his elevators and speaking for almost an hour, he is ensuring that the second side of the story gets out there. A lot of it has to frankly do being rooted back to May Of 2023. The first e. Jean Carroll Defamation trial when he was found by a jury to have sexually abused her. It was a jury that made that decision. Donald trump didnt show up a single day. He chose not to testify either as Robbie Kaplan was noting there that he had the opportunity to do so and he passed it up. And it was interesting Fast Forward from May Of 2023, to today. Hes standing in front of those Elevator Doors there, was bemoaning the fact that one of the former attorneys working on the case at the trial at the time, joe taco pino, he had urged him to not testify, not go to court because it was below the standing of a former president of the united states to do so, and in doing so, Donald Trump, ever since then, including the day, that very day in May Of 2023 that he was found to have sexually abused e. Jean carroll by that jury, he went to a Town Hall in New Hampshire and spoke the exact words that led to the Defamation Finding in the first place, and thats what you heard him continue to do today because really its at all costs at this point, its not about the financial repercussions here, katy, he has made that very clear. He is willing, despite his legal efforts to fight paying, he is willing to take this on in order to politically win. For him, that is convincing enough americans that e. Jean carrolls story is not a true one. Vaughn, youre at a Town Hall, is he going to be taking questions from voters, and i wonder if any of those voters will be asking about his legal troubles or if theyre going to be asking about the economy or Foreign Policy or immigration . Reporter we know theres going to be a sentencing on the line after this election here, and hes going to be addressing the national board of the fraternal order of the police, which is the largest organization of Police Officers in the country. We are here in charlotte, North Carolina, his fourth visit to this Battleground State that he won in 2016 and 2020 but is here again for the fourth time in a month. What questions do we have . Of course when were talking about Law Enforcement and the justice system, Donald Trump again today went on the attack against the prosecutors who lead the Department Of Justice went against District Attorney Alvin bragg, went against judge chutkan, Judge Merchan, hes called for the pardoning of the more than A Thousand individuals that have either pled guilty or were found guilty for their actions on january 6th. In which 140 Police Officers were attacked. I think that weve got a bite there. Ill toss it back to you, katy. Of Donald Trump. I think we mistakenly had the sound up a little too high on some o. Video we were rolling underneath you. Vaughn hillyard, it looks like youre at a Town Hall. I realize now that you are not. Again, i guess if there were voters asking him questions, if he was doing a Town Hall, i would wonder if any would be asking about his legal troubles or they would be asking him about, i dont know, their own policy desires and desires for their own lives. 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So many layers there. Dick cheney, as you heard, is voting for the party that gave him the Vice Presidency in 2021, and said hes voting for the democrats. Come november her dad will cast a ballot for Kamala Harris. Joining us now, Chief Strategist for the Bush Cheney 2004 president ial campaign, and senior msnbc political contributor, matthew dowd, also with us is former Executive Director of the new York State democratic party, basil smikle. Matthew, my friend who i met at the shrimp fest many years ago, Dick Cheney, whos convinced to vote for Kamala Harris by Dick Cheney . First of all, i want to say the idea that Dick Cheney is endorsing Kamala Harris, i mean, i worked for him, i did his Debate Prep in 2004, they always looked at me as like the newfound republican, not conservative enough. Dick cheney has been involved in conservative republicanism for 50 years, worked for nixon, chief of staff for ford, secretary of defense for herbert walker bush, was obviously Vice President , conservative congressman from wyoming, he is as republican and as conservative as any person in america in this. And so, one, i mean, obviously highly, highly unusual for somebody like that to endorse. What i think it does is its him, Liz Cheney, others, adam kinzinger, others, it basically adds up as a signal. It gives a permission structure, not to republicans but former republicans or independents who might have reluctance to vote for a democrat, it gives them a permission structure, to basically vote, even though they may not like the Vice President harris or may agree with her on certain policies, theres a small group of voters, 3, 4, 5 , that its a signal to them that its okay if you support the democrat in this race, and that, as you know, this race could be decided by a few thousand votes, could be significant. 3 or 4 or 5 is high. I thought you were going to say 3 or 4 or 5 voters period. A lot of these establishment, former Old Guard republicans, a lot of them have come out and said, no, we dont like Donald Trump. We think that anybody but Donald Trump is good. Or better. And Dick Cheney, he has such a spotty record, and there are so many people in this country who absolutely loathe him. Mark was being cheeky by saying democrats love him because democrats dont like him. The wars in iraq, what happened throughout the Middle East during that presidency, theres still such a hangover from it, and you can argue its part of the reason why Donald Trump got elected. That anger. I was in south carolina, Donald Trump was campaigning against Bush And Cheney in 2016 saying they were responsible for the iraq war, muddying up the Middle East. He used them to get elected. And he did it effectively, clearly. Didnt win the popular vote but the electoral college. I dont know. Well, i think to your point, there is an argument that could be made that the move towards isolationism. The point about reluctant and permission structure. Dick cheney and Liz Cheney are not talking to democrats. Reluctance is an important word. If you were going to sit out the election, maybe their endorsement gives you an opportunity to say Kamala Harris is not so bad. Let me go out and actually make this decision. I think it also helps to deflect Donald Trumps attacks against her. Not to say that Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney will defend Kamala Harris, it gives permission to more republicans to be able to push back on those attacks, to be able to not give in to those attacks, and that, again, for the small segment of the population that might be inclined to believe them, its important. Every vote is going to matter. I wonder if thats going to be more effective or if this is going to be more effective in getting people to vote for democrats. There is the story right now out there, matthew and basil, obviously the gun story, the shooting in georgia, and how to pucks this problem that we have in this country. J. D. Vance spoke about it. Let me play what he said. Look, i dont like this. I dont like to admit this. If you are a psycho, and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets and we have got to bolster security at our schools. A fact of life is what he calls it, and says he doesnt like it, but he calls it a fact of life, and talked about hardening schools. That school was hardened. There was an officer there. I talked to Mark Claxton who does security for a School District in North Carolina. He admitted theres no amount of hardening you can do against a crazy person who has just an undeveloped kid whos not happy and mentally unstable, who has access to a gun. The democrats, matt, are seizing on fact of life. Do you think that the Gun Issue might be more potent, not just among democrats but maybe among depths, some moderate republicans. The majority of americans, across parties want to see tighter gun control. As a Gun Owner and a hunter myself, im just amazed that the republicans still are so out of tune on this issue. I mean, its not just what j. D. Vance said, its that every time something like this happens, a republican says thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers, now is the not the time to talk about politics, and they constantly point to every other factor, Mental Illness or whether or not the schools got security, and they never point at what will make a difference, which is access to guns, and some kind of background checks, and some kind of Mental Health Tests or whatever are those many things that you can actually do through some things to prevent this, and we know in georgia where this took place, a congresswoman, Lucy Mcbath was elected in a Swing District in georgia, an africanamerican woman, purely on this issue. And so i believe this is an issue democrats can go way affirmative on and make an argument that the republicans are so out of step on this, and again, its another part of the Freedom Argument the Vice President has made, but this to me is such an issue that republicans are so out of step with 70 of the country. Basil. As someone whos actually been shot before at the age of 12 by a 14yearold who had a gun in front of the school that we went to and he dropped out of and lost friends to Gun Violence, i dont want it to be a fact of life. I dont want it to be just something that i have to deal with thats my family, or my neighbors have to deal with. Theres a whole generation of School Child that has grown up being accustomed to some extent, having hardened schools, having to have drills to be able to get away from individuals that enter the school with a gun. That should not be normal in our society. Where 4 of the population, we all may be at least 60 of the guns in this world. How is that at all normal . And so j. D. Vance to say this, trying to desensitize the american people on something so incredibly horrific. Democrats should seize on that, and continue to push. Theres a Policy Solution to everything that is involved here. We can put more Mental Health Experts and guidance counselors in schools. If, according to project 2025, you want to get rid of the department of education, how is any of that going to happen. I didnt know you had been shot. I have. Im so happy youre okay. Thanks. What happened to that 14yearold . Well, he was a Drug Dealer in the neighborhood. He dropped out of Junior High School to sell drugs. I didnt see him until a few years later, he lost feeling in his arms because it had been shot up. He was in and out of prison for a good chunk of life. Thank you for coming on today, matt, thank you as well. And Coming Up, were going to talk a little bit more about guns. The father of the suspected shooter is in custody today. 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In fact, North Carolina was supposed to begin sending out those mailin ballots you see there today. But they have been delayed because Rfk Jr. Demanded he shouldnt be on those ballots. Joining us now. Msnbc correspondent, Trymaine Lee in durham county, North Carolina, a lot of printings already happening, so what does North Carolina do about this . What do they do about this . Look behind me . For now, absolutely nothing. I got here this morning in durham county, a buzz of activity, Election Workers were Stuffing Ballots into envelopes. They got word, the Appeals Court Judge ruled in favor of Rfk Jr. Use the word like opening season. This is like the first game, and now its nothing, its been rained out. They were expecting to mail out, across the state, 130,000 early ballots, 5,000 in the building alone, but now with the courts decision, everything is reversed, now they have to gather every single one of these ballots. They had to print off new ones, make sure the name is off it. They had to go through the entire quality control process. In the meantime, you have military folks, expecting and hoping to get their absentee ballots. Today was the deadline, they had to get them out. There is real concern here, if they dont get things in order, they might miss that deadline. There are other things at stake too. I spoke with a gentleman, derek who runs elections, and he put it in greater context. Check it out. That was a 60,000 Ballot Run Job for us. We have to go to the Board County commissioners and ask for additional funding. How frustrating is this . As an election official, i dont have an Opinion And I cant express frustration, i will say its an anomaly in the process with previous elections. They know how to roll with punches and well get it done. Have you experienced or seen this before . This is a first for me in my ten plus years. All of the hours of preparation, possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars its going to cost to fix the ballots, and folks in North Carolina, its going to be a close race. Its expected to be close. Here kind of at a standstill, and its still unclear whether there will be further legal action from rfk. Trymaine lee, thank you very much. And on tuesday, you can join me and my msnbc colleagues a lot of us for special coverage, live all day from philadelphia. Ahead of the first president ial debate between Vice President Kamala Harris and former president Donald Trump hosted by abc news. Coming up, what todays mixed jobs numbers say about the economy, and the Georgia School Shooting Suspects Father was arrested and charged. What he is facing. G. The georgia high School Shooters dad is now in custody. Colin gray has been charged with involuntary manslaughter, seconddegree murder, and cruelty to children. Two sources close to the investigation tell Nbc News he is at fault for giving his son the Ar15 Style Rifle he used to kill his classmates and teachers, a gift given to the teenager just a few months after the authorities investigated him for making online threats to shoot up a school. Both Father And Son appeared in court today. Their lawyers declined to seek bail, and both will remain in jail until the next scheduled hearing in december. Joining us now in winder, georgia, is nbc News Correspondent marissa parra. This is a step further than weve seen in a lot of the other cases. Its even a step further with the charges than the parents of the detroit School Shooter . Reporter absolutely, katy, and i want to take you to some new reporting that we have that comes from audio released from the Jackson County sheriffs office. This stems from that Fbi Interview that was done last may, and im going to paraphrase for you a little bit of what we heard as well as have some direct quotes. In short, across eight minutes of audio, we heard the fbi asking his father, colin gray, if he was aware of any threats made online from his son regarding School Shooting threats and so what we heard in response from the father, quote, i dont know him saying any expletive like that. Im going to be mad as hell if he did, and all the guns will go away. He continued that im trying to teach him about firearms and safety, and, katy, he did add as well that his son was getting picked on at school. Remember, that was last may, and Law Enforcement officials, sources familiar with this, tell Nbc News that it was after this interview last may that he gifted his son an ar style rifle. Just to recap those charges, you read some of them just now on the screen, when it comes to the father, we know that he has 14 charges that hes facing, including two counts of seconddegree murder. Eight counts of cruelty to children, and of course, his son, 14yearold Gray being treated and charged as an adult with four counts of felony murder. What we saw in court today, katy, we saw them both appeared separately. They appeared shackled, and Colt Gray was soft spoken, didnt show much emotion. We did see motion from his father who was rocking back and forth as he was being read those charges, and of course from Family Members in the room, visibly shaken, katy, all of this as we expect a Vigil Tonight from the community, as this memorial behind me, outside of this school, continues to grow. 54yearold man understands the full consequences of whats in front of him, understands where hes going, understands that this is the end if hes found convicted. A 14yearold doesnt get that. They dont understand the world yet. They dont understand their own selves yet, their minds, their brains arent fully formed. Marissa parra, thank you very much. Joining us now, Retired Nypd detective, director of the black Law Enforcement alliance, Mark Claxton, and director of Safety And Emergency services for a large School District in south carolina. Also with us, ucla school of Law Professor and author of gunfight the battle over the right to bear arms in america. Adam winkler. Is it a good thing to charge the parents here, the dad in this case . I think its really a necessary step to encourage parents to secure their firearms. We have over 400 Million guns in america, and thats not going to change anytime soon. So what we need to be sure of is that those guns are stored safely, carried responsibly, and used responsibly. 80 of child School Shooters obtain their weapons from families or friends. Its incumbent that we create incentives to keep those families and friends from providing access to those weapons to young children. There has been legislation to encourage, Mandate Lock Boxes for guns. Legislation thats been shot down by republicans. We had on a little bit earlier, mark, what j. D. Vance was saying about this. He said he didnt like it. But its a sad fact of life that this is going to happen, and that he says that what needs to happen to prevent it is hardening schools. Can you harden schools to prevent this . J. D. Vances comments are sad, and kind of dismissive, really, in oversimplifying the Allergy Issue were addressing or dealing with. Were getting pretty proficient at responding Post Incident to these School Shootings, and thats a sad statement, when you think about it. The police are tactically more efficient and proficient at responding, even sparing lives of the shooters themselves while saving, you know, additional life. Schools are becoming more skilled at drills and altering drills and the patterns they do these Emergency Drills with, so that our schools and our staff, our students are more aware of what needs to be done as a reaction to when these when the devil comes knocking, so to speak. What we really need to deal with is holistically, and part of that Attention Need to be focused on actual legislation, and decreasing the number of firearms, not just assault weapons, but Hand Guns that are in population right now. And we cant consider the over simplification of the additional hardening steps as being effect ich. It wont be effective. Well continue to have these type of shootings and these killings unnecessarily, until we make some big, bold steps and commitments to protecting our children, ourselves, our community. Everythings a soft target. I mean, weve had shootings at parades, Fourth Of July parades, weve had shootings at the christmas parades. We have had shootings at supermarkets. We have had shootings at splash pads. Weve had shootings at bowling alleys, at movie theaters, churches, synagogues. Weve had shootings absolutely everywhere. Salons, massage parlors, everywhere. And when you take just single shootings with single guns, you can multiply that to every place you can think of. Every place is a soft target. How do you harden everything to prevent a crazy person with a gun . Mark, i think one of the things thats been bothering me lately, and ive asked this a couple of times. Im going ask you. Where is the given that theres so many americans that are horrified by this and want to see more done, and its a minority of americans that are keeping the status quo, theyre putting pressure on enough legislators to keep the status quo, are you surprised that you havent seen a more organic collective outrage, an outpouring of outrage on the streets from americans across the country in order to put pressure, broad pressure on our elected officials to change things . Yeah, im not surprised. I am disappointed. And i have been disappointed for a long time. I think many people became really increasingly disappointed when we saw the young people being slaughtered in the schools, and its really untenable. It cannot continue this way, but it will continue until there are bold steps that are taken, and we cant, as a Suggestion Or Recommendation of a tactic say lets just harden the schools, these schools are having more technology within them. More people assigned to them, Law Enforcement personnel assigned to schools. Our schools are becoming hardened to the point where it really is having a negative impact on teaching and learning, if you think about it. And we cant continue to traumatize our children by hardening the schools or dealing with those things that feed this level of violence in our society and in our schools. Again, i think it goes beyond traumatizing kids. The country is traumatized. The shootings are happening everywhere. I want to get your thoughts on that. Do you think that the collective outrage marches in the streets. Not big marches but weve seen organized with a lot of people, but across this country, really giant ones, would that Effect Change . I think it would. We do live in a democratic society, for all the flaws that our democracy has, and we have seen a real movement with moms demand action, and we have seen how that movement has influenced, for instance, the democratic party. If you go back to 2004, 2008, the democrats werent really talking that much about Gun Violence prevention because they thought it was a loser come Election Day. We have seen a change, and that issue has become central to the platform of the democratic party, and i think we can see the prosecution of the father of this School Shooter as part of a sort of response to that movement. For a long time, parents were not charged with crimes when their kids committed violence, like School Shootings because we thought they were victims as well. It was a tragedy for the entire family, but now we realize we have to do more, and were not going to get the guns off the streets anytime soon, so we have to do everything we can, whether its safe storage laws, background checks, and whether its prosecuting the parents who allow their children to get access to weapons and kill people with them. That seems like the smallest step we could take, but at least it is a step being taken. Gentlemen, thank you very much, Coming Up next, we got the second to last Jobs Report before the election, whats in it, and whats it going to mean . Christine romans is here. Stine E Lactaid is 100 real milk, just without the lactose. Delicious too. Just ask my old friend, kevin. Nothing like enjoying a Cold One while watching the game. Whos winning . We are, my friend. We are. 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The question is, now theres a lot of tightening in the system and how much slower will the Job Market get, we dont know for sure. If this ison what the Fed Wanted, were waiting for the next interest rate announcement. Are they going to lower it by a quarter point, half point, a point . If i werea a betting personi would say this Number Today is consistent with 25 basis points, a quarter of a point. The fed doesnt like to surprise the economy, doesnt like to shock really, so i think you would see gradual. This is still a healthy number overall. You look athe 4. 2 unemployment and 142,000 jobs added. In a vacuum thats still healthy but what weve come from is Gang Busters for two years. Recession fears. Would he keep talking about that. We havent hadta a Recession Ev though people have been screaming Theha Sky is falling r a year and a half. At least. At least. What are you thinking . Thoseor Numbers Today are no recessionary but they are certainly cooling. You look at the summer. The summer was a look weaker than expected. Look at that. July was only 89,000. Thats the least number of jobs added since the pandemic, since this recovery. There was Hurricane Beryl and really hot weather. That hot weather kept some industries sidelined from hiring. Theres aed climate piece to th. Climate piece to everything. Absolutely. Appreciate it. Coming up, all american eyes should be on the u. S. Open tonight, specifically we have an Epic Semifinal between two friends, two american dudes. Were live in queens next. Big, big, big, big, Big Night In Queens tonight. Two americans are facing off in the u. S. Open semifinal. Taylor fritz and Frances Tiafoe will go headtohead in a Winwin Situation for our american tennis. Joining us now, yasmin, who once again got the luckiest huge, huge, huge, big. Im not talking about your head. Your ego. Im talking about tennis. Huge day, katy. Its going to be a huge day. People are already excited and im here for it. History in the making. Jannik Sinner Jack Draper behind me. You can hear the cheers coming from inside arthur ashe. Jack draper, 25 in the world, leading sinner, Number One in the world. But its the semis has everybody talking. History in the making. Two americans in the semis, the first weve seen in almost 20 years. Taylor fritz and our favorite, Frances Tiafoe. Friends, by the way, who sat on an airplane together many years ago when Taylor Fritz turned to tiafoe and said, i think you and i, buddy, are going to be Number One and number two in the world. Here they are going off against Each Other in the semis, at the u. S. Open. Undoubtedly, one will make it to the u. S. Open. It will be tons of rallies, tons of tiafoe at the net, Fritzs Monster serve as well. I have been speaking to some folks that have been out and about here at the u. S. Open. Some of them have been drinking some honey juices, but nonetheless, i asked them, who are you rooting for tonight . They said, many of them, rooting for the underdog. Granted, there are a lot of underdogs here because all the big names are out. Sinner, of course, is Number One so hes not underdog and favored to win. But tiafoe, very much on the minds of all the folks here at the open today. Really rooting for the underdog. I love Frances Tiafoe, he has a great story, great attitude. And i love you, yasmin. I love you. Love you. You like my hat . I read in the New York Times you didnt go to the open unless you got a hat, so im glad you got yourself a hat. Reporter i got two. Im going to come get it. Thats it for me. Deadline white house starts right now. Hi, everyone. Its 4 00 in new york and its friday. In the last 90 minutes we witnessed a political bombshell