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Senders sheldon whitehouse, senders sheldon whitehouse, The 11th Hour, starts now. Tonight, tragedy in georgia, a deadly high School Shooting Forces Gun Violence back into the spotlight at the height of the election. Plus, former Republican Congresswoman Liz Cheney gives revolt to Vice President harris, but how much does it actually help the democratic ticket . Then, the Vice President unveils her vision for the american economy. We get into the Probusiness Agenda she is pitching to voters as the election approaches. A High School a High School in georgia, mason schermerhorn, and teacher, christian and official say the 14 your suspect used an Arstyle Weapon during the attack when police investigated online threats last year to carry out a School Shooting but Founno Proable cause for an arrest at the time. Here is more from georgia. Reporter horror in georgia after officials say a suspected shooter opened fire in appalachia High School. 14yearold student here, at the High School, has been taken into custody. He will be charged with murder and will be tried as an adult. Reporter this video, showing realize, if you do not give up, get on the ground, the deputy took, to custody. Reporter golf coach, david phenix, who was st, posted that he was in stable codiion. My heart hurts for these kids, my heart hurts for this community, but i want to make it clear that he will not prevail in this county. Love will prevail. Reporter kids returned back to school in august, sophomores, describing the terrifying moments. I didnt know what was going to happen, because you could hear E Nfire right close. I was shaking. Just scared. I thought i was going to die. Reporter this student said she was sticking up but shaking and scared. How does it feel to have this happen in High School . I am shocked. Reporter panic parents reuniting with their children at the football field. My daughter called me at work. She was screaming that there was a shooter at apalachee. Porter President Biden, briefed today, writing, jill and i are mourng the death for those whose lives were cut short due to more senseless Gun Violence. The president ial candidates offered condolences as they hit the Campaign Trai Donald trump responded with a true social post, quote, these cherished children were taken from us far too soon by a sick and deranged monster, end quote. Vice president harris addressed the tragedy in New Hampshire earlier today. Watch this. Every day in our country, in the united states of america, the parents have to send their children to school worried about whether or not their child will come home alive. It is senseless. It is. We have got to stop it, we have an epidemic of Gun Violence. You know, it doesnt have to be this way meanwhile, a new Nbc Survey of Gen Z voters shows that 85 of those under the age of 30 say that theyre somewhat or very concerned about the possibility of Gun Violence in schools or public spaces. So, the question is, are lawmakers going to do anything with that . With that, lets get smarter with the Leadoff Battle Tonight Panel Tonight with hugo low, senior reporter for the guardian, and rolling gutierrez, represented uvalde School Shoing that left students and teachers did back in 2022. Senator, i hate having you on, because every time you are here, we know it is for one reason. It is a new school year, and here we are again. Students and teachers, sheltering from another deadly shooting from a teenager, 14 yearold, a freshman in High School. When you heard this report today, what went through your mind . Three years ago or two years ago . Stephanie, i was just this is just so sad and disgusting, quite frankly, that we can figure this out in this nation. My heart goes out to those families. It is so important that everybody across this country understands that Mason Scrmerhorn and those teachers, theyre not coming back but it is not another School Day for those children. The finality of death, we have to understand it, because we have to do something about this in this country, and to do something means an Assault Weapons ban. This weapon fires three times the speed of a nine millimeter, and it caused this incredible damage. I sued the State Of Texas to see the videos that happened, but in uvalde, texas, you dont get a Human Body left when you get shot by one of these weapons. We have to do something now. It is my hothat, the people in this country you go, what an awful day, this tragedy, again, putting the issue of Gun Violence Front And Center in the final stretch of campaigning. Oftentimes, one of these tragedies happens, we talked about it for a few days, the News Cycle moves on, but here we are, less than 70 days from the race, from the election. Do you think this somehow changes the dynamic for the race . Will voters demand action from one or both candidates . Ill knew the extent to which it will change the dynamics of the race, but certainly, at the moment, on the Campaign Trail today, i ought it was very telling, because it was really a Spl Screen in many ways. You know, traveling with the Vice President today to New Hampshire, she delivered those remarks, and she kind of spoke very common sense, i thought, you know, the way she said, it is going to have to be this way. We can add new restrictions on firearms. Meanwhile, the trump Campaigns Response to this was, we dont even want to address it, which is telling, for this campaign, that is usually a sign that they dont want to engage on this sort of policy. I think the reason for that is because that policy is to oppose any new restrictions on Gun Rights. It is to oppose any rollbacks on curbing the proliferation of assaultstyle weapons, which is the kind of weapon that was used today. They didnt want to draw attention to that, because it made their position look weak. When you look at that on a whole, for voters, that is very apparent. You know, which side is for curbing guns, and these sorts of instances, allowing people to perpetrate real murders with these sorts of weapons. But policy is what millions of parents around the country are amending tonight. Parents are too afraid to send their skids kids to School Tomorrow out of fear that another kid could walk in with another ar15 style weapon. What do you think . This is what the issues with the Stt Divies in the party is very, very clear here. The republican party has set for a long time, the answer for Gun Violence is either more guns or, just, theres nothing you can do about it. Democrats try to talk about beauty of Assault Weapons bans and other kinds of Gunn City Legislation And Gun safety measures. It just is so difficult in these moments to have it ever sort of breakthrough. It doesnt have to be difficult. Right . It doesnt. Everything is difficult and so you you say, no, i will do something for the public. Which is quite true along those lines. Talking about this issue, Gun Violence and Gun Safety, we should realy jumon this issue more and push harder on it, because you mentioned talking about young people and how worried they are about this. There are guns like this put on the Back Burner by democrats, and other top issue . They obviolcare about it and talk about it a lot, but it is not the number one thing. These experts told us that they think there are elements where the democraused to be bolder on this issue because of numbers like that, and because of just how focused people in this country are on try to do something about this as you both mentioned on the Campaign Trail now, theres only one candidate actually offering any sort of solutions at the moment. Senator, after the Mass Shooting in uvalde, President Biden did sign the first major Gun Safety legislation that we had in our country in 30 years. That is something. What did you think, reasonably, can be proposed and can get done . You are in texas, where things havent gotten done on a state level, even though it happened in your own backyard yeah. Nothing has happened in the State Of Texas, definitely. I want to point out, looking at the Parkland Shooting in florida, after that horrible act that happened in florida, rick scott, then the governor, passed over 21 pieces of legislation, including Red Flag Laws, including certain age limit requirements on these types of weapons. 75 of republican voters in texas want to see age limits on access to these types of weapons. I, of course, m one of them. So, they need to do what i didnt want to go see, which is dead kids. When you see a little girl with her face just gone, just obliterated in such a horrific way, it changes everything that you believe in in life, and it changes your focus entirely. If policymakers truly want to do the right thing here, they need to understand that s is not just another Mass Shooting, this s he end of Two Little Boys lives, The End of two teachers lives, and all of this is avoidable. Every sheriff in parkland in florida, rather appreciates the fact that they have Red Flag Laws. If we had Red Flag Laws in georgia and i dont know if we do this might have been avoided about a year ago. Yeah. It was parkland students who fought for it. David hardge was a 17yearold high School Student in parkland, florida. Today, he is one of the strongest, most outspoken and safety advocates in this country. So, change can happen. We have to remind yourself, though, Donald Trump, last time we saw his statement on his cial media platform, the last time we had a shooting, the aftermath of a shooting in iowa, i want to share a bit of what Donald Trump said watch this. It is a very terrible thing that happened, and, it is just horrible to see that happening. It is just horrible. So surprising to see it here, but, have to get over it, we have to move forward. We have to move forward. Hugo, no we dont. We dont have to get over it and move forward. We have to do something about it. So, who is that message for . Is that for hardcore nra favored republicans are saying, dont talk about it, look the other direction . Not oking to get over it and s move on. Certainly, No One from those communities, certainly, none of those families. I think that is right you know, the audience, really, is basically red Meat Maga people, and his wider base. For them, they see Gun Rights as something that is inalienable, shouldnt be touched. I think the Trump Campaign runs into this issue over and over again, which is they have policies that are unpopular with large parts of the country, but are very popular with certain sections of their base. If you think about what trump is trying to do in this election, he is actually trying to turn out a Building Block that didnt turn out for him in 2020, but did in 2016, and that is young white men, especially here, young white men who are difficult to reach, probably skew conservative and dont consume mainstream news. To that demographic, the Trump Campaign has long believed most conservative policies and their positions on the second amendment or what is going to get them to gto the poll up for this year, and that has been there singular focus for months, and it explains why trump does what he does when trying to bridge this gap between fundamentally unpopular policies and the very narrow subsection which he thinks will swing the election in his favor. Are they right . Lets talk about young male white voters. They might like to play violent video games, they might be anti , quote unquote, cultural brokenness, but i dont know, theres an awful lot of males who certainly dont want Gun Violence. He is doing it for them . The young male voter. Yeah. , this is the big challenge republicans have with this issue. It kind of feels like were kind of in a Zombie Land when it comes to this, because the nra doesnt have the power it used to have, it has changed the conversation in politics for this issue. Do you remember what a Superpower Wayne Lapierre once was . He is a shriveled up old man unemployed at this four with zero power, probably not even in his household. I dont know about that, but i do know, like, this a fascinating piece to cover. I have covered so many of the shootings, it is such a horrible part of being a journalist in this era, ing these and being a part of these conversations. Every time, it goes the exact same way, what everybody says, truly, theres something we can do, and then someone says, no, we really cant do anything at all, and the republican party there have been moments as the senator manchin, where some states have made changes and political changes, and those republicans havent been almost losing national support in those states. But when it comes to this issue on the national stage, for some reason, the gop, specifically, seems very, very nervous about getting anywhere away from the idea of guns for anybody who wants them whenever they can get them. That is the best way to solve this problem. Im not convinced that is a great thing for them going forward, but they keep sticking with it. Nervous, like when parents when they send their kids off to school. We will leave it there, gentlemen. Thank you for joining me tonight. Evan, hugo and i said before, roland, i dont like seeing you, but i appreciate your insights. When we return, Vice President harris scoops up a very big gop endorsement. Ill It Lead to gop votes though . Later, the u. S. Accuses russia of Election Interference again. The department of Justices Effort to stop it before americans head to the polls. You need to hear this. The 11th hour, just getting underway on a very important wednesday night. You better stay up for this one. Only Purples Gel flex grid passes the raw egg test. No other mattress cradles your body and simultaneously supports your spine. Memory foam doesnt come close. Get your best sleep guaranteed. Save up to 1,000 during our labor day sale. 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Former congresswoman Liz Cheney, Republican Congresswoman Liz Cheney, said tonight that she will vote for harris in november. Cheney made the announcement during an appearance at Duke University earlier. Watch this. I dont believe that we had the luxury of writing in candidates names, particularly in Swing States. As a conservative, as someone who believes in and cares about the constitution, i have thought deeply about this, and because of the danger that Donald Trump poses, not only am i not voting for Donald Trump, but i will be voting for Kamala Harris. Macklemore, former democratic New York congressman, max rose, now a Senior Advisor to vote thats, and stores deepened is here, veteran of the Mitt Romney and george w. Bush president ial campaigns, now the lincoln project. Stewart, she did just say, im voting against Donald Trump. She said, im voting for Kamala Harris though. What is your reaction . Do you think she will have an impact on this race . You know, i think she will have an impact, and one of the impacts is others will follow her. I really dont understand how, what a lot of republicans have, about Donald Trump. To not endorse harris. If you really believe he is a threat to the country, one of these two people will be president of the united states. You can say, i really care about the country, but i will set this one out . It just doesnt seem patriotic, or any kind of coherent thinking at all. So, i think, liz, i have worked with a lot of back in the day i think he will help here. Max, i spoke to a very senior former republican who said, tonight, Liz Cheney just put herself on the right side of history. My question is, does this endorsement put any votes on the side of Kamala Harris that might not have been there yesterday . That is a big deal. Look, part of the Big Ten right now for the democratic party are disaffected oldschool republicans. You know, that is the story so far. This is is not a runofthe mill republican. I mean, this was, you know, part of the nobility almost of the republican party a decade or two a, and when you look at suburban areas in Swing States, or even when you look at these contested congressional districts, Theres Plenty of republicans that cannot stand Donald Trump. The danger for the democrats right now is they can just say, we have it in the bag. This is one piece the puzzle, but theres certainly more to come, and it is absolutely imperative now that we stay on the offense, that we dont just assume people hate Donald Trump, consistently remind people of the fact, why ms. Cheney is doing this is because Donald Trump is the guy who says, the following are suckers and losers, with political advertisements in arlington. This is why lheney is doing this. But Bp Harris is doing that because she is not to say, Donald Trump is crazy and he is a weirdo. She is actually putting out policy Proposals Everyday that defeated Donald Trumps argument that she is a super progressive, she is a communist. She is actually putting out just today she put out pro Business Centrist proposals, the opposite of how Donald Trump or republicans want to paint her. She is doing the work. Absolutely. A 12 punch for a reason. Okay . That is so essential. In the past, we made the mistake of making it all about Donald Trump so, i certainly applaud e Vice President for what she did today and how her campaign has been issues focused, but lets not forget about how toxic this guy is, and he is doing it each and every day. The assault on our shared values. I look, so often, to the military. Spitting on the fallen, talking about the suckers and losers who didnt make it home from war. We are saying, thank god he didnt get the medal of honor, because that is for losers. You are not worthy of the presidency. Why Liz Cheney made this decision, yes, there is a policy element, but it has got something deeper than that. It is about shared values, none of which Donald Trump stands for. Stewart, when ms. Cheney said that people need to understand that they do not have that the luxury of bringing in candidates right particularly in Swing States is she talking o voters, o is she talking to her colleagues . Right . I am thinking about, you know, senior Republicans Who, for the last two elections, have said, i can but for Donald Trump, then he writes in a day with a candidate. Is that who Liz Cheney is speaking to here . You can call yourself a serious person and say, this is a serious election, then right in your data, donald duck. I think she is talking about, you know, it is true that they have a special place in the republican party. Going back decades, before he was Vice President , it is just so telling that theres not room for a cheney in the republican party. It is extraordinary. So, i think this does resonate with people. I think Liz Cheney is tremendously admired by anyone who believes that there was a free and fair election, which is the majority of the country. She was absolute voice of clarity during these committee heaings, and she is a real conservative. Yes, i think it does help, and she needs to be credited for doing this, because she goes out and campaigns more, and she did some of that in 22 with a real impact. Liz cheney is a name a lot of people were waiting for. They remember her from the January 6th investigation, but that isnt what she was talking about today. She was talking about the threat to the future. Beyond Liz Cheney, is there a Person Or Name in your mind whose endorsement with the huge for Bp Harris, and would make a Opus Unmotivated or Swing Made Voters . Yeah. Think about the ways in which Liz Cheney is maybe opening the door right now for Mitt Romney, for chris cristi, for, particularly, i think, many of the generals who are talking about ways in which they are afraid of Donald Trump, how they consider him a threat all that we hold dear, but theyre not yet getting political in that sense, but the broader point is what is essential here. Those who have worked with Donald Trump, those who have come anywhere near Donald Trump in a professional or personal capacity do not support him. All the way up to his Vice President. That is not the case of the democratic side. You saw it with the dnc and the rnc. The dnc was an allstar lineup of current democratic stars and once from the past. The rnc was the trump family. You had almost No One from his last administration, almost No One, stewart. Theres a new piece out in politico that says, republicans are all in, publicly, for Donald Trump, but behind the scenes, theres a whole lot of republicans and not trump republicans current trump Republicans Who actually hope Bp Harris wins so they can be Donald Trump and actually start fresh in 2028 if they actually feel that way, why not do something about it today and make that a reality . Yeah, look, we heard this in 16. I think that theyre trying to have it both ways. I think these people, to me, i really beyond useless, because theyre really contributing to this album, and Donald Trump is not the problem with the republican party. He didnt create the republican party, he revealed it. There is some deep sickness in the republican party, a party that has come to value cruelty, come to value anger, come to value this sense of grievance. The heart of the Proputin Element of american ethics is in the republican party. I do not think it is functioning as a normal, traditional, american political party. So,ll of this i hate to see Donald Trump maybe i am not going to vote for him or something i just dont buy it. I think republicans have proven themselves, as the party has, to care about nothing but power. I think theyre terrified of where the country is going, and they see this as one of the last chances they have to stop that. Really terrified about where things are going, stick around for the next segment, gentlemen. Stuart, max, thank you both. When we come back, we will talk about how countries like russia, china, and iran, foreign adversaries, are trying to manipulate the opinions of american voters. The department of Justice Eye Plan to stop them. We will dig in when The 11th Hour continues. Announcer what if you could whiten your teeth by simply brushing your teeth . 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Following the invasion of ukraine. Since at least st year, they have used people living and working inside the u. S. To facilitate contracts with American Media figures. Reporter the two russian nationals, cute of a 10 Million scheme to fund and direct a u. S. Company producing videos, mostly directed to the publicly stated goals of the russian government. According to the indictment, it comes a day after State Employee Linda asun pleaded not guilty to taking millions from china in exchange for influencing top levels of the new York State government. The moment we discovered the misconduct, we fired this individual. I am furious, i am outraged by this behavior. Reporter the couple, allegedly living a lavish lifestyle with multimillion dollar homes, luxury cars, and expensive gifts. The Department Of Justice says, she was a threat to our national security in what way . Well, based on the Influence S that are subtle. Theyre difficult to see. While they dont steal secrets, they can r infoation. Reporter the u. S. Government says, it is not just china, russia, but also iran and their efforts to implement the election are only wrapping up. The Justice Department messages clear. We have no tolerance for attempts by authoritarian regimes to exploit our democratic system. Here to discuss, former fbi special Agent Clint juans, general Analysis Center of microsoft security, and msnbc analyst. Clint, all the time trump is basically saying, pretty, pretty , he is a cutie, i guess we know why. You, stephanie, it is remarkable what the u. S. Government today, on the Russia Side alone it is really three different efforts. One, the major outlet for reaching a foreign audience, rt, particularly a u. S. Audience in 2016, they have been struggling to get a u. S. Audience, and they are trying to build workaround by paying Content Providers through cutouts. Second was what is really known as the network there were talking about when they spoof news networks, fake stories with a real logo, maybe an Msnbc Logo or something, maybe bbc are those News Stories were traveling across Social Media last year. The third is really what is called a cyber hacktivist group, run by fsb russian intelligence Doing Hacking operations. When you put all this together, this is everything we have seen from the russian tricks the last eight years, really, putting it together for 2024 again. Okay. So, now we know they did it, theyre putting sanctions in place, but is it going to stop now . Less than 70 days to go before the election, or those sites coming down . Are those American Media personalities that were being paid by russia or their countries, are they being punished . Are they out there apologizing . How dos the american people find out, now, that this was a bunch of lies they were being told, and how does it stop . Yeah. In terms of the domains, stephanie, you are starting to see the Seizure Warnings whenever you go to the actual website. You are starting to see some of them have been taken by the doj and fbi. Knocking a channel offline, if you dont know how to get to the channel after thiis is a good disruption activity, especially close to the election, hard to rebuild the audience. In terms of cyber proxies, the big fear was that i was going to be a hacked front. Back in 2016, it was wikileaks, places where you could see Information Drop out there. It will be much harder for them to T Ith Content creators. I think it definitely sends a chill throughout the system. Theres probably case is still ongoing, or things that may unfold on them. Definitely, a sense of warning to people to know where they get the resources from and who is paying the bills. We have been hearing about for an Election Interference since 2016. Is it worse today . Actually, for the most part, allountries are struggling, just because of the way the defenses are set up. Whether it is Tech Companies like microsoft doing defensive efforts, working across that ecosystem. Look at the u. S. Government here, this would have never happened eight years ago. Couldnt have gotten organized or even detected in this wy. Look at other actions you solve regarding china and iran, discussions of it over the last month. You are seeing three nationstates all trying to do this sort of influence, but being caught in the act. I am hopeful we made a lot of progress the last eight years, remember when Tucker Carlson went to russia, walking through grocery stores, said, how great it was . Wonder why he did that. I wonder if he was paid for it. Clint, thank you for joining us. There he is, say, so much better than american grocery stores. Yeah. Theyre paying you big sums of money when you say that. 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So, then, you have got to make up the delta there, figure out how to do that. Not everyone has access to that kind of wealth and capital. So, part of my plan is we will expand the Tax Deduction for startups to 50,000. Make up the delta . She is speaking my language. I dont even let my guests get that. Vice president harris, outlining some of her new proposals in the New Hampshire today, including one to expand Tax Relief for new small businesses. The tax break, part of for a goal of 25 Million new Small Business Applications in her first term. Here to discuss, two of my favorite is this experts, david graduates from the Podcast Cnbc Sidney paris, ceo of i5 a. I. Yes, maam. For everybody out there who says, she is antibusiness, how much do you hear this proposal, look at the Fact Sheet . This is a super Probusiness Agenda. Tax breaks, theyre promoting entrepreneurship, and in her space, she said, we have to figure out how to get venture Capital Money with know coast and into every small city and small town in this country. We even heard that, but not from any president ial candidate in years. Really, it has been a long time since anybody said, focus on that. Look, it is a good proposal, 50,000. In subsidies or incentives, it is spread out over a period of time. You wouldnt be able to necessarily right it off right away, but even if it is about her direction she wantto go in . Correct. Whether it is a socialist or farleftist is beyond the panel. Nothing in her economic proposals unless you want to call it tax hikes, socialists, which would also be inaccurate, theres nothing really there that would suggest that she is an ultraleftist in any way, shape, or form. In fact, we have the proposed capital Gains Tax Increase that President Biden put out rather substantially. That is rather surprising in and of itself. Lets talk about that. People glaze over, like, what, Capital Gain and he thing to take away is President Bidens proposal was to be at 39 for longterm Capital Gains. Her proposal is 28 . Right . So, the fact that she is looking to do that, does that not say to this country, she is looking to say, listen, we just have to even things out . Obviously, the Tax Code Isnt working for everyone. We have got to modulate here. Yeah. The Tax Rate is now 20 . She is effectively saying, i want to raise taxes on the wealthy in this country, but not as dramatically as Joe Biden has proposed. Who knows what will happen if she is elected and what ever the configuration of congress is, if that Tax Law will get through. You are right, she is taking a her position on this, making that clear. She is justifying it in a way that i think will make sense to a lot of americans, and people who are proponents of keeping the tax lower, say, encouraging investment by the wealthiest in this country. She is not into that, all the while, say, the richest people in this country should be paying for it. That is who she is speaking to and who shes listening to, because in the last year, i heard we heard lots of President Biden wasnt listening to or speaking to the business community. I remember when the Fortune 500 ceo, dabos, saying, you know a persons parodies based on their agenda. Very little time with people from the business community. That is very different with Bp Harris. Mark cuban put it out today, saying, tell me a Business Leader she hasnt spoken to, even the last few weeks. We have seen people in her economic team bring more and more Business People in to listen to what she has to say, but overall, for her priorities. A pretty broad crosssection as well, not just relational business, silicon valley. She may reach out to the crypto community. I dont think that matters, but resident trump has been pandering to them for money of late former president Donald Trump and she has reached out to a lot of folks, also, maybe being less concerned about some antitrust issues President Biden has on his plate at the moment as an olive branch, if you will, to that community. So, theres just more of a favorable stance towards business then one might have expected. I would agree with that. I think what were seeing here, too, is a more animated Candidate Interacting with more people and listening to more people. I think that the way that she has approached this has been pretty deliberate in the context of a very compressed, unprecedentedly short campaign. A lot of people, grasping she had and put out these Policy Decisions sooner, had and said more than in a few weeks, and we are getting more now. She is trying to draw a distinct between this administrations policies, where she helps hers to be, and i think we can look forward to more nuance here. Going back to the small business thing, you can get the 5000 deduction the next 15 years, and you can write off more stuff, but she is proposing, here, of this to your point, stephanie emphasizing the point that starting a business is hard. A lot of them fail. It is good to have the ability to deduct that and write that off earlier to lessen the likelihood that that will happen. What about the Double Standard . There was all this pressure for her to put out a detailed proposal she has. When was the last time either of you got a detailed proposal, a detailed economic proposal, sent to you from the Trump Campaign . You first. We do know that he wants to lower the corporate Tax Rate for now from 20 to 15 , again, which would bust the deficit. We know, from some analysis, his proposals would increase the deficit 5 times what Vice President harris is proposing. So, we know that just from the math, but is not really in details. Those are facts just put out today. Yeah. Only so much you can say, dont tax tips, which is the thing i get the most from his campaign, which is what she is now copying. Were not getting a lot of nuance there. Goldman sachs put out a report today, effectively saying, what he is proposing so much plasticity to the service i want to put in more tariffs, more tariffs on china, mexico, Goldman Sachs is saying, the effects of this opus government essentially the effects of that, even if those Trump Tax cuts were to stay in place, they would offset and be ruinous for the economy even if they were to maintain tax cuts. Particularly with the notion of Mass Deportation from 11 and 20 Million immigrants, which would throw the Labor Market into absolute chaos. You would create both inflation with the terrorists and the deportations. So, that is stagflation by definition. I want to post the affidavits of the word plasticity. Plasticity. We can talk about ddt, Donald Trumps media stock, now down 74 from its peak. Close below 17 Bucks a share. However, even at 17 Bucks a share, Donald Trumps stick is still worth 2 billion, and hes going to be able to dump it in the next 2 weeks. Wont be less than 17, because you cant put that much of wait, lets say, 1 2 of 17, he will stake of the still take him 1 Billion for a company that is a fakeola . You cant even drive that Stckwithout Riving it down to single digits, i think that is dangerous for someone try to dump a stock that has gone from 99 down to 17. Anything in your life that is worthless that you could sell and pocket 500 Million . Absolutely not. I am not a fan of the company, because it doesnt hurt anybody and the revenues are quite small, stock is down 84 from its peak. So, no. What is your take on this . I have been struck. I had a Twitter Alert on my phone for Donald Trump from way back when, and it has been lighting up again in recent weeks. He is now tweeting a lot more than he had been. I think that says to me, perhaps, he is having a lot less confidence in the future of Social Media and its site. Maybe none of the investors had confidence into the social. Maybe it was a way to get himself a big old figure if he were to win and a bunch of confidence. Gentlemen, good to see you. Good to see you. Well be right back. To duckduckgo on all your Devie Duckduckgo comes with a builtn engine, like google, but its r and doesnt spy on your searchs and duckduckgo lets you browsel but it blocks cookies and creepy ads that follow youa and other companies. And theres no catch. Its fre. 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