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Russia when he was poisoned in london that made headlines around the world. A lethal toxin in a Cup Of Tea. Why was he killed . To unravel the mystery, we followed the tale of a dark conspiracy. Are you frightened for your life . Meet and confront the prime suspect. And now, is the danger coming closer . Were the men in the bushes . People say it will never happen here. I know what can happen here because it happened to my husband. Hello, and welcome to dateline. Former russian Agent Alexander Litvinenko was a vocal critic of the russian government. In his world, access to information could make you a rich man or a dead one. His murders set off an international investigation to discover who wanted him silenced. Here is Richard Engel with spy games. A former russian agent poisoned. A multimillionaire found dead in his bathroom. Investigative reporter executed in front of her home. Their lives have been interconnected but what about their deaths . Random acts or some suspect part of an international Murder Conspiracy that stretches across two continents and several world capitals. We will investigate who wanted them dead and why. The case will take us from moscow to rome To London into a world of spies and spy catchers, Corruption Of Those Who Dare to expose it. A world in which murder happens often. Was there a Hit List . Im sure there was. Our story begins closer to home. On a late Winter Evening Paul joyal was driving to his house just outside of washington, d. C. It was quiet and dark i got in my car, two men waiting in the bushes, they jumped me and one man i fought with. We ended up on the ground in a tussle in this one man said to someone else i did not see, shoot him. So, i covered my heart, i turn to the side and a shot went through me. One shot and then i heard the click and another click. Nothing happened. You are shot once. Rolling to protect yourself. I hear a chamber to clear it, the gun jammed and at that point the lights went on in my house. His wife elizabeth open the door and saw her husband. Hes wearing a raincoat, sued, and had. He is doubled over. You can see he is in pain and he looks at me and says i have been shot. The assailant had fled. Elizabeth got him inside and called 911. As soon as the 911 call was done, i asked my son to lift my legs up because i wanted to make sure the blood stays in the body. You dont lose consciousness. Elizabeth is a Registered Nurse in the training kicked in. There was no signs of external bleeding at that point. That freaked me out too. I know if hes not bleeding on the outside its bleeding on the inside. An ambulance arrived and rushed joyal to the hospital. The nine millimeter bullet had torn through his bladder and intestine. They had to place him in a drug induced coma to save his life. He was unconscious for one month. Local Law Enforcement initially assumed it was a botched Robbery But Elizabeth believed otherwise. I didnt want to seem like this crazy conspiracy theory woman, but i knew it was not a carjacking. Theres just no way that it was some random guy. It had to have been a planned attack. Because nothing was stolen and the assailants had clearly been lying in wait. Which is why when joyal came stumbling into the house with a bullet wound, he told his wife to call his Business Partner, a former russian spy master. To warn him i was shot. If your warning you russian Business Partner you have been shot, you did not think this was a botched robbery. Carjacking. You thought this was related to your work, your russian connections. I dont think theres any doubt. Someone tried to kill him just like the other guy in london. The other guy . A former Kgb Agent and friend of joyals killed three months earlier in london. 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His interest in fighting corruption had made him a lot of enemies including in his own agency, the kgb, which was renamed. Litvinenko was forced to flee russia with his wife and son. Seek asylum in london we quickly caught the attention of agents of the british Intelligence Service mi six. He was a Retired A very charming mi six analyst who was asked to befriend litvinenko. The british wanted to find out what he knew about his former colleagues in the russian secret service. Was he credible . Oh, yes, he was. Credible enough that they began paying him a monthly Salary Trading Information for money was when we for former russian agent to make a living in his new home in london. Then, suddenly in 2006 litvinenko who would always been fit and healthy got very sick. It was incredibly strong and have a sickness just suddenly and not stopping. Litvinenkos wife watched him waste away in a matter of just days. It was awful. His hair started to to fallout. Yes, and he started looking like a Cancer Patient treated by chemotherapy. He was going through unspeakable torment. The doctors suspected he may have thallium and treated with an antidote. Finally we know what happened to sasha. Under control and he was safe. It wasnt under control. The antidote did not work. Litvinenko didnt get better but got worse. Before long, even close friends could barely recognize him. I said to myself, why is this happening to this young, healthy, handsome athletic man . Whats going on . He is fighting for his life. A fight he would lose. We are sorry to announce Alexander Litvinenko died at University College Hospital On 9 23rd of november, 2006. In the days just before his death, litvinenko did something remarkable. He knew he was dying and decided to help Scotland Yard detectives sold his murder. He gave them a series of deathbed interviews. The transcripts provide a remarkably detailed account of his movements on the day he was poisoned. Litvinenko S Account starts at 10 00 a. M. When he received a Phone Call from an italian contact who had just arrived in london and insisted he needed to meet litvinenko immediately, and he said he had urgent news. They agreed to meet that afternoon. At 3 10 p. M. , litvinenko were spotted on Nick Security Camera walking west on piccadilly street. They came to this Sushi Restaurant where litvinenko ate lunch. He said he was not hungry. Litvinenko and the italian parted lunch. Litvinenko was caught in another Security Camera talking on his cell phone. Litvinenko walked about a mile to the Millennium Hotel which is right across The Street from the u. S. Embassy at that modern looking building over there. Its one of the most secure neighborhoods in all of london. One of the hotel Security Cameras recorded litvinenko arriving in the lobby at 3 59 p. M. He was there to meet Andrey Lugovoy, another former Fsb Agent seen wearing a black leather jacket. Andrey lugovoy had his own Security Consulting Firm and he and litvinenko have been talking about doing business together in london. The two had met several times over the past year. This time Andrey Lugovoy brought along a buddy, a man named Dmitry Kovtun. Hes in the black turtleneck. It was a quick Meeting And Litvinenko drink half a Cup Of Tea and then left. Around 5 00 p. M. He caught a ride home. That night he pa three weeks later, he was dead. So who slipped litvinenko poison that day putting his murder into motion . Litvinenko told Scotland Yard detectives before he died, he didnt know when or who had poisoned him. He had no doubt that one or more the men he had met that day, the two russians or the italian was his killer. Naturally, we wanted to talk to all three. Coming up. We track down the first suspect, that he named. Are you frightened for your life . Life . Pete g. Writes, my tween wants a new phone. How do i not break the bank . We gotcha, pete. 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It is polonium. Polonium210 to be exact, rear and deadly radioactive isotope. The news shocked the world, even though most werent exactly sure what polonium was. Paul joyal knew what it was and what it could do. That his friend effectively burned to death from radioactivity. Its a horrible death. Its a gruesome death. He lived longer than any man normally would under those circumstances. He lived just long enough, within 12 hours long enough, for them to finally determine that it was polonium versus something else. If he had died 12 hours earlier would it have made a difference . They wouldnt have found out and wouldve marked the Death Certificate Death unknown. He wouldve been put in the ground and marked as a mystery. Turn the page. Move on. Its an almost perfect murder weapon. Polonium has no smell, little taste, and without specialized equipment its undetectable. The amount that Killed Litvinenko slipped into something he ate or drank was no larger than a grain of salt, but that still 1000 times the lethal dose. That tiny bit of Polonium Wouldve been an enormously expensive. Eight to 12 million. Who could get hold of such an expensive and exotic weapon . And how did they deliver the fatal dose . When detectives went stepby step with litvinenko through the day he was poison, he named three potential suspects. The two russians and the italian. The first one we found was the italian. In rome we are on our way to see Mario Scaramella who hopefully can shed light on who killed Alexander Litvinenko and why. Scaramella has been a hard man to pin down. He wanted to meet in naples the New York than london. He finally agreed on wrong and weird about to find out why he has been so skittish. How to describe scaramella . Lawyer, academic, security analyst, and Someone Litvinenko never completely trusted. Scaramella as a Contact Litvinenko met at the Sushi Bar on the day he was poison. Litvinenko thought you poisoned him. Yes. You didnt poison him . Absolutely not. From his Person Perspective it makes sense. Scaramella had been working for the italian government and sometimes used litvinenko as a source for investigation into the russian Mob And Spy rings. Hes been giving cute names of Russian Mafia members who were connected to the Intelligence Service. Exactly. Some something to upset the mobsters and fsb. He told us in october 2006, month before litvinenko was poison, he began receiving frightening emails. The final message arrived on the very day of his last meeting with litvinenko. What did the message say . There are people ready to kill you. The emails amounted to a Hit List. The next name . Alexander. Alexander as in Alexander Litvinenko. Scaramella said this where he met with Litvinenko In London to tell them about the Hit List, to warn him. He said that litvinenko did not buy it. He said dont care about that i think its a provocation but check whats happening. After would have been, scaramella says he takes the Hit List seriously. Are you frightened for your life . Spot do you have another question . Scotland Yard Question Scaramella and eventually cleared him. Why . Because of youre looking for it, polonium is traceable. Using specialized equipment, investigators were able to track it in people and in places. Wants polonium210 had been identified, then across europe, like the slime from the slug all the way across, polonium was popping up everywhere. But not in scaramella. No in his body for anywhere he had been. So Scotland Yard took a hard look at the two russians, lugovoy and kovtun. When detectives retraced their steps they found Polonium Contamination everywhere. We see the same fingerprints of the polonium in multiple places where they were. Business offices, hotels, a hookah bar, a strip club, a soccer stadium, and the Millennium Hotels bar where they last Met Litvinenko , thats where investigators hit the jackpot. These 3d graphics put together by Scotland Yard show the entire bar was contaminated with polonium with extreme hot spots on a table and chair. The level found inside this teapot . Off the charts. Paul joyal wonders how many were unwittingly exposed. We know ultimately what the final cost of this use of polonium is . Someone who was washing dishes in the bar or in a hotel, cleaning crew. Five months after the litvinenkos death Scotland Yard issued an Arrest Warrant for lugovoy. They responded with a Press Conference in moscow stating their innocence. [ speaking in a global language ] russia refused to extradite them. We travel to moscow to find the men who are wanted in connection with Litvinenkos Murder. Coming up. The stakes get even higher as we confront a top russian official. Official. 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He was attending a Music Festival for piste in Israel October 7 when he was attacked and later captured by hamas. A representative for his family saying they were devastated by the news and as for privacy. Richard engel in the dead of winter 2015, in the dead of winter 2015, we arrived in moscow in an effort to find out not only who killed former russian Agent Alexander Litvinenko but why. This is home to Andrey Lugovoy and Dmitry Kovtun, hunted by Scotland Yard and interpol , suspected of killing litvinenko. Around the world, they were villains in a tale of international Intrigue And Murder yet in russia, we found plenty of people who thought if the two did Killed Litvinenko, he probably had it coming. Thank you for talking with us. In the Russian Parliament, the leader of the altar and nationalist party has Nothing But Disdain for litvinenko. Who is this petty person . He was just a piece of rubbish. He told us that in russia, litvinenko made plenty of enemies going back years. In the 1990s, russia was in chaos after the collapse of the soviet union. It was a time when enormous fortunes were created and outrageous crimes committed, sometimes by the very people sent to investigate them. Back then, Alexander Litvinenko was an young Fsb Agent who claimed to be disturbed by what he saw. Litvinenko specialized in Organized Crime Investigation but became obsessed with what he believed to be corruption within the fsb, crimes committed by the cops. He compiled a dossier complete with flowcharts, detailing his allegations and presented it personally to the head of the agency. The result was . Surveillance on your family. Exactly. An outraged litvinenko did the unthinkable. He led a nationally televised Press Conference, a group of agents, several into skies, claiming they fsb had become corrupted by Russian Mafia money. Litvinenko even claimed he had been ordered to assassinate a prominent billionaire. Instead, warned him that his life was in danger. The motivation of this simple man was his feelings that his country was being betrayed by the leadership. He believed he didnt do anything wrong. He was a good officer. A didnt think it would get him in trouble . He said they will kill me arrest me. He was jailed for nine months but that billionaire he warned, boirs berezovsky, boiled bailed him out and help the family flee To London. There, litvinenko kept up the drumbeat of criticism against the russian government. He even wrote a book accusing the fsb is starting a war in chechnya for political reasons. In response, russia branded litvinenko a traitor. His image used for Target Practice by russian special forces. In march 2006, eight months before Litvinenkos Murder the Russian Parliament passed a law authorizing the liquidation of enemies of the state, anywhere in the world. You dont pass it for the sake of passing it. You have to have somebody in mind. Seven months after the law was passed, someone was liquidated. A prominent russian Journalist Shot outside her russian apartment. She was a friend of litvinenko. Three weeks later, litvinenko himself was poisoned with polonium210. The leader didnt shed any tears but laughed off the notion the russian state was connected in any way for one simple reason. He thinks russian agents wouldve done a better job. Im surprised the Special Services in the Uk Court accuses Russia And Lugovoy that a big of polonium they came To London and throwing it around. It doesnt make sense to a lot of people that russia didnt kill him. For 100 years the Special Services have been used to the kind of substances for killing people that you never will be able to recognize. Why do we have to go into some kind of bar and put it in some is Teacup And Everybody is laughing. The state cannot be involved in that. Litvinenko s friend Paul Joyal who believes he is part of a botched assassination agrees in some ways that the killers were indeed clumsy and careless. He says, thats because they were probably just pawns in a much bigger game. You think any of them knew what that substance was . You think they knew that they were handling polonium . Why wouldnt they have known . Because you dont want them to know. They might say no. There is no way im going to do that. I dont want to handle this radioactive, im not going to kill myself in the process. To get closer to the truth of who Killed Litvinenko, we have to talk to the suspects themselves. Andrey lugovoy and Dmitry Kovtun. In Kovtuns Case it was not easy. A few weeks later, he was hospitalized and lost all his hair. He has not been seen publicly since 2012. That left lugovoy. When we got here he didnt want to speak to us but on the second day he called and said he was ready to talk. Coming up. We asked the question the world want answered. Did you put polonium in the t . T . My moderate to severe crohns symptoms kept me out of the picture. Now i have skyrizi. 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He says he and litvinenko met several times in london to discuss doing business there together. Including that now infamous meeting in the Pine Bar where Scotland Yard says litvinenko was poison. Lugovoy said it was no big deal. What do you remember by sitting there at the table . I remember we talked with litvinenko about nothing in particular. And now for eight years, i am under suspicion. You are under suspicion because the investigation said there was polonium and that teapot. Did you put any in that . Of course not. I was tested for polonium and i tested positive. Did i put polonium into myself . Mi and idiot . Crazy . Scotland yard detectives dont believe his denials. In fact, they think he tried to kill litvinenko or than once. Thats because they found polonium on the table in a Conference Room where he and litvinenko had met two weeks before the Pine Bar encounter. Was anything spilled on the table . Richard. You are asking questions. I remember some things and i dont remember other things. I cannot answer these questions because it can be used against me in the court which is done frequently. As for his last meeting with litvinenko at the Pine Bar, lugovoy said theres no way he brought polonium on that trip because his wife and children were with him. A persons weakest spot as his family and i may rational man. Even if i taken part in an operation, even if id known what was in the container, would i take my family along . I am a rational man. I couldnt do it. Not only did he continue to maintain his innocence but offered his own Theraflu Poison the tea. Could summon a put something in there without you noticing . No. Why do you think the polonium may have been put into the cup after our meeting . The next day or by a guy from mi6 . He brings a polonium and pours it into the cup. That Agatha Christie stuff. Mi6 is british intelligence. Lugovoy said perhaps the brits killed him to embarrass russia, retired Mi6 Analyst said that is nonsense. If for no other reason because mi6 would never use such an expensive weapon to kill anyone. If the british wanted to kill him, he wouldve fallen out of a hotel window. Chased in front of a car. Slightly more costeffective fashion. You wouldve made it look like an accident . Yes. More costeffectively. Oldfashioned bullets work rather effectively. Why not shoot him . They couldve possibly. We dont to that sort of thing. Remember, litvinenko was working for mi6 and it was lugovoy and his partner Dmitry Kovtun who Left A Radioactive Trail all over london. Especially at the Pine Bar. Lugovoy is hardly hiding in russia. He did our interview and one of the restaurants he owns. Is a Member Of Parliament and he didnt become something of a Popculture Icon hosting his own tv show. The program appropriately enough is called traitors. It names and shames individuals who are supposedly enemies of the russian state. His high profile is one reason that many people who suspect him of murder dont think he acted on his own. Another reason . All the polonium210 in russia is under the control of the state. Its impossible to use a state controlled substance like this without the knowledge of the very top of the country. Because you are unleashing a radioactive substance . Its a little dirty bomb. Its nuclear terrorism. Of all his enemies, Litvinenko Mightve infuriated one more than any other. Coming up. I said its a very dangerous thing to do because you are personalizing this. Rsonalizing introducing New Advil targeted relief. The only topical Pain Reliever with 4 powerful painfighting ingredients that start working on contact to target tough pain at the source. For up to 8 hours of powerful relief. New advil targeted relief. Nexgard® plus helps you protect your dog from fleas, ticks, heartworm disease, and more. 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While in while in london, we had a meeting with another man who is convinced his life is in danger. Hes a wanted man in russia, a Rebel Leader from the Breakaway Chechen Republic and a close friend of the former Agent Alexander Litvinenko who said gave him an important piece of advice. Never trust old friends. He said someone will come from your past but you shouldnt trust them because he will be your killer. Which may be what happened to litvinenko. After all, Andrey Lugovoy was a person from his past. As we have seen, there were a number of people in his past who may have wanted him dead. The Fsb Colleagues he denounced. The russian mobsters he was investigating. Perhaps someone who thought he was a traitor for working with british intelligence. For years, Litvinenkos Widow has been asking how big was the conspiracy . Who was behind it . How high did it go . Dangerous questions that she knows better than anyone. You think you play chess but its russian roulette. Those closest to litvinenko believe the Kill Order may have come from the top because litvinenko picked a fight with the wrong person from his past. Nonother than russian president vladimir putin. He was trying to prove that putin is corrupt. The Mission Maeve started years before when litvinenko made the flowchart of corruption in the fsb. The head of the agency at the time was putin. After litvinenko fled To London and putin became president of russian , litvinenko attacked him relentlessly and by name. I and others said this is a dangerous thing to do because you are personalizing this. Marina and others believe the ultimate motive may not have been personal at all but rather it was all about money. We learned in 2005 and 2006, litvinenko made multiple visits to spain helping Prosecutors Takedown a major organized crime ring. One that litvinenko publicly claimed had financial ties to president putin. Putins office has never responded to that allegation. A Pulitzer Prizewinning Author And Expert on russia. I think Anything Litvinenko was doing that can close to the source of putins personal Wealth Wouldve been by far the most dangerous things he could do. In addition to a possible motive, there was also the means. Paul joyal said the fact that polonium was used to kill litvinenko leaves little doubt as to who authorized the murder. Does that mean it had to been Putin Or Someone else with access to to a she youre not going to engage in nuclear terrorism down To London without the knowledge of the office of the president. Today we begin the open hearings in the inquiry into the death of Alexander Litvinenko. In january 2015, a Public Inquiry opened in london. It was a victory for marina who along with her attorneys thought an eightyear legal battle to make it happen. On opening day, her attorney argued the evidence leads to one disturbing conclusion which litvinenko reached before he died. Litvinenko came to the awful realization that he had been the victim of a political assassination by agents of the russian state. An Expert Witness testified the polonium that Killed Litvinenko could only have come from russia. President putins spokesman declined our request for an interview and in march 2015, putin gave lugovoy a metal, the order of merit to the Fatherland Secondclass for his work. You think russia will ever come clean and it will be known . I believe one day we will know it. For people to decide. In the years she has been looking for answers, other questions multiplied and other deaths have been recorded. There was Dmitry Kovtun, the Russian Oligarch that litvinenko refused to assassinate. Another prominent critic of putin. In 2013, he was found dead in his london home. Originally called a suicide. A judge said he could not rule out murder. The way he killed himself. He hanged himself with a scarf in the bathroom and the fact is bodyguard was not there. It raises questions. In 2015, another Putin Critic was gunned down in the shadow of the kremlin. The victim was about to lead a major rally against putin. It went on without him. Five chechen nationals, Trigger Man and four accomplices were convicted in the murder but the colleague suspected Putin Loyalist actually engineered the assassination. People shouldnt be killed for their activity. The leader of the russian opposition was killed, gunned down because he oppose the putin regime. For no other reason. Putins office denied involvement and that killing. Less than three months after his murder, he became the target of an assassination attempt. In 2015, he suddenly became violently ill. What was initially thought to be Heart Problems turned out to be poison. He recovered but in 2017, he was poisoned again. I woke up because my heart was racing. It was getting faster and faster. You woke up to this feeling . Yes. Describe how you feel when youre trying to breathe and you cannot. When you slowly feel your whole body giving up. This time, he barely escaped with his life and spent almost two weeks in a medically induced coma and he never found out how he was poisoned. Food you think was responsible . I can only presume it was done by people with connections to the russian the kremlin denied any involvement in his poisoning. The Opposition Politician continue to speak out against president putin. In 2022, he was arrested. Later convicted of treason among other charges and sentenced to 25 years in prison. Even then, he could not be silenced. In may 2024, he wont go a Pulitzer Prize for political commentary, written from his cell. Three months later, it he was freed in a massive Prisoner Exchange with the west. Afterward, he said he was certain he would die in putins prison. Since the 2016 residential election, number of russian diplomats and operatives have been killed or died under mysterious circumstances around the world. In march 2017, the u. S. Senate held hearings on russian involvement in the election. Former Fbi Agent was called to testify before the committee. Follow the trail of dead russians. Theres been more dead russians in the past three months tied to this investigation of assets in banks all over the world. They are dropping dead even in western countries. So much of this violence may seem very far away, but when Nbc News consultant Paul Joyal was shot a few miles from the capitol, he and his wife immediately thought it was a hit. A big reason . The timing. It is four days after iqs the president of being responsible for the horrible murder of litvinenko on your network. In 2007, joyal appeared in a dateline report. Did Putin Order Ritter know it . I would find it hard to believe that this information, whatever it may be, hasnt filtered its way to the top. Four days later he was almost murdered himself. Do you think they are related . I dont think theres any doubt. People say it would never happen here. I know it can happen here because it happened to my husband. Its no proof theyre right but his assailants have never been caught. Elizabeth admits avers she was angry when he agreed to be interviewed again for this program. I said what are you thinking . Why do you want to bring notice once again . But then, when the man in russia was shot, i had an epiphany. Wait a minute. Someone needs to talk about this and needs to say this is not right. Spent Cannot Ask an obvious question . Why are you still doing this . Why are you talking to me now against against the counsel of my family . It may be foolish but i think its the right thing to do. Im Andrea Canning. Thanks for watching. [music playing] thats all thats all for this edition of dateline. I am Andrea Canning. Thank you for watching. Hello. Hello. I am Andrea Canning and this is dateline. She can lie to you, make love to you, kill you all in the same week and not even cry