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Filing a revised indictment against the former president. Well have expert legal analysis on this new development in just a moment. Meanwhile, donald trump says he will debate Vice President Kamala Harris in two weeks, but the Harris Campaign now says one major issue still needs to be resolved. And we have more details unt the operation that rescued an israeli man who was held hostage by hamas for more than 300 days. Good morning and welcome to way too early on this wednesday, august 28th. Im ali vitali, in for jhonattan lemere. Former President Donald Trump is blasting an indictment against him as a shocking and direct assault on democracy, in his words. Trump fired off that response on social media late yesterday just hours after he was indicted once again over his efforts to overturn his 2020 president ial election. That, of course, being the election he lost. The effort culminated in the january 6th, 2021 attack on it u. S. Capitol. Yesterday Special Counsel jack smith filed a super seed nothing indictment, which was voted on in return by a new federal grand jury. It included the same four charges, though, that trump faced in the original indictment last august. They include conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of and an attempt to obstruct an official proceeding, and conspiracy against rights. This revised indictment is intended to deal with the Supreme Courts decision from july that trump had broad immunity from charges relating to official acts as president. And while the charges are the same, some of the evidence has essentially been whittled down in light of that ruling. Specifically, the indictment removes all references to trumps attempts to use the Justice Department to advance his claim of election fraud. And its now written in such a way to highlight that trump was a candidate for office, something that courts have recognized in the past to be private, essentially, nonofficial, conduct. Even if that candidate is the current incumbent president. A source familiar with the Trump Defense team tells nbc news this revised indictment was, quote, not a surprise, again, contradicting what the president wrote on social media, but the legal team did not expect it to be filed yesterday. And as we mentioned donald trump reacted to yesterdays Superseding Indictment with anger. On a series of posts on truth social, trump railed against the revised filing, incorrectly arguing that the Supreme Court had granted him full immunity. He then called it an attempt to interfere with the election, a direct assault on democracy, unprecedented abuse, and the single greatest sabotage of our democracy in history. He also wrote, quote, it is doj policy that the department of justice should not take any action that will influence an election within 60 days of that election. But we got to point out trump is the one who has continuously sought to delay this trial until after the election. Speaking from the campaign trail, trumps running mate, ohio senator j. D. Vance, also weighed in. I dont think that it changes anything legally. I think its clearly an effort to try to do more Election Interference from jack smith. He should be ashamed of himself, but its one of it reasons why we have to win because he should not be anywhere near power. Mean wile, in an interview that aired last night on cbs news, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson was asked about the Supreme Courts immunity ruling. In your dissent you wrote that the court declared for the first time in history that the most powerful official in the United States can under circumstances yet to be fully determined become a law unto himself. It sounds like a warning. Well, i mean, that was my view of what the court determined. You were concerned about broad immunity. I was concerned about a system that appeared to provide immunity for one individual under one set of circumstances. When we have a criminal Justice System that had ordinarily treated everyone the same. Joining us now is former u. S. Attorney and msnbc contributor barbara mcquade. Barbara, we both eboth know very rare to here from a sitting Supreme Court justice like that. First, i want to get your reaction on this Superseding Indictment against donald trump. We pointed out one of the key differences regarding taking out some of the department of justice stuff that was in the initial indictment, but what else stood out to you here . Well, i think one of the things that is important to note here in complete contradiction to what were hearing from donald trump and from j. D. Vance, the reason that this new indictment was presented to a grand jury and then returned by a grand jury was to make sure that the indictment was untainted by any evidence that has been deemed to be immune. And so the prior grand jury had returned an indictment, but they had heard all of this testimony about abuse of the Justice Department. And so one could argue theoretically that that grand jury heard some things they werent supposed to hear when they indicted that first case. And so to present brand new to a brand new grand jury only evidence that has been scrubbed of any official conduct that could be labeled immune did this grand jury once again return an indictment against donald trump. So i think this is an effort by the Justice Department to act out of an abundance of fairness. Ill also note that to the extent the Justice Department considers the 60day coolingoff period to be in effect with even a Superseding Indictment, were still beyond 60 days. And so theres nothing wrong with filing an indictment at this stage. Yeah, certainly, thats right. And i think that was something that struck me as well, this idea that trump cant go after a jury that has been prebiased to something that is now new in front of them. I think the other thing that struck me as i was reading through this is the ways in which they tried to reallyism up the idea that in this interactions with his Vice President , it wasnt official, the Special Counsel is trying to argue, because it was in pences role as president of the senate and in his capacity as someone who is certifying the election results. All of this leads to the question that judge chutkan is going to have to adjudicate, which is did he rework this enough . Yeah, i think thats right. And i think intrump team will attack this and say all this conduct is official and immune from criminal prosecution. But as you point out one of the things they do here at any many junctures in this indictment point out, for example, trumps speech at the rally was a Campaign Speech that was privately funded, so making it clear this was not official conduct. That conversation with mike pence in his capacity as president of the senate discussing blocking the certification. Even the very first paragraph of the indictment now refers to donald trump not as the 45th president of the United States but as a candidate for president in 2020. And so i think that will be argued, but i think they have paired away all the official conduct now such this should be in good shape to go forward. Well see if the courts agree. Changes big and small. I think now the next big question is what happens next, and on what kind of a time line . Obviously trump is already complaining about it, we pointed out why were here in the first place. What do you think the best Case Scenario is for hearing this as soon as possible . Well, judge chutkan, youll recall, wanted to hear this earlier in august, and it was jack smith who asked for a little extra time. We now know why because he was seeking the Superseding Indictment and needed to get the evidence before the grand jury. Hell be back in court on friday to sort of lay out what the time frame is going to be, and i suspect that judge chutkan, you know, she should be acting without regard to the election. She should be trying to fulfill the publics right to a speedy trial. No doubt this case will not go to trial, but The Next Step to the ball moving is to have that hearing, to go through paragraph by paragraph and decide whether this is free of official conduct that immune, both sides will argue. It may be necessary to actually scour the evidence in the case, but i dont expect what some are calling a mini trial, where they actually put up witnesses to testify. I dont think the prosecution would find that valuable to their case, and i dont think theyre thinking about trying to influence the election. In fact, theyre trying to do anything but. I think on their papers they can submit what they anticipate their evidence to be, the judge will rule, and im sure well see this case appealed all the way up to the Supreme Court before the case is ready to go to trial. But i think at least some of these allegations are going to survive, and so long as donald trump is not president and cant dismiss the case, i think this case will get to trial some time in 2025. You make such a good point here that the courts might not be and that sort of throws the entire system into a different time line and turmoil. Former u. S. Attorney and msnbc contributor barbara mcquade, thank you for getting up early with us. Were learning about an incident that took place earlier this week when former President Trump visited Arlington National cemetery for a wreath laying ceremony. Npr was first to report that two Trump Campaign staffers had a confrontation with a Cemetery Official who tried to prevent them from filming. Trump Campaign Spokesman Stephen Chung denied of the report saying no physical altercation occurred, adding the campaign would be willing to release footage but one had tried to block. Arlington cemetery put out a statement itself confirming an incident took place and a report had been filed. That Statement Reads in part federal law prohibits Political Campaign or election related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries to include photographers, content creators, or any other persons attending for purposes or in direct support of a partisan political candidates campaign. And donald trump now says he will participate in the president ial debate with Vice President Kamala Harris. Are you keeping up here . Its been back and forth. The former president posted on his Social Media Platform last night that hed come to an agreement with the Harris Campaign for the rules for the September 10th event which will be hosted by abc news. Trump wrote the rules will be the same as his debate with president joe biden, meaning microphones will be muted while candidates are speaking. But the Harris Campaign pushed back saying negotiations on the mics are still ongoing, and in their own statement mocked Frump Interest letting his handlers overrule him on the issue. Youll remember he initially said its fine for him to have the mics on. Now the Harris Campaign pointing out the dissonance between those two camps. And now former President Trump selling new Trading Cards at a hefty price. Trump pointed out the America First collection setting a price of 99 a piece. Hello, everyone. This is your favorite president , donald j. Trump, with some very exciting news. By popular demand i am doing a new series of trump digital Trading Cards. You all know what they are. Weve had a lot of fun with them. Its called the America First collection. 15 all new stunning digital Trading Cards. Its really something. These cards show me dancing and even holding some bit coins. Trump also announced that buyers who purchase 15 digital cards will get one physical card, which allegedly includes a piece of the suit he was wearing during his june debate with president joe biden. And by purchasing 75 digital cards at 99 each, buyers will receive an invitation to a gala dinner attended by trump at maralago. Still ahead, the harriswalz campaign is heading to georgia today with several other battleground stops planned this weekend. Well run through that busy schedule coming up next. Plus, the Trump Campaign is out with a new push for pennsylvania voters to embrace mail in voting, but just this week it seemed the former president was complaining about the issue once again. Those stories and a check on sports and the weather when we come right back. K on sports and the weather wn hewe come right back. Pete g. Writes, my tween wants a new phone. How do i not break the bank . We gotcha, pete. Xfinity mobile was designed to save you money and gives you access to wifi speeds up to a gig. So you get high speeds for low prices. Better than getting low speeds for high prices. Right, bruce . Jealous . Yeah, look at that. Honestly, someone get a helmet on this guy. Get a free unlimited line for a year when you buy one unlimited line. Plus, get up to 800 off google pixel 9 phones. Switch today Vice President Kamala Harris and Governor Tim Walz will embark on a campaign bus tour of georgia today. Its harris seventh trip to the peach state this year and her second since she announced her president ial capped d. C. Its the democratic tickets first trip to georgia together. The tour will start ipsavannah before making stops in southern typically red georgia counties. Trip will culminate in a Solo Harris Rally tomorrow evening back in savannah. And the harriswalz campaign also has a busy Labor Day Weekend with events Just Announced in several key battleground states. The Campaign Says each event will underscore the importance of the middle class and the american worker. The Vice President will be in detroit this weekend before joining President Biden for a joint appearance in pittsburgh. That will be the second joint event since biden dropped out of the president ial race. Governor tim walz and his wife, gwen, meanwhile, will be campaigning in milwaukee while Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff will be hitting the trail in virginia. Campaign cochair mitch lan drew, and former dnc chair tom perez will attend events in north carolina, nevada, and georgia. Again, underscoring that battleground state map. On the other side of the aisle, there thump campaign is embracing a form of voting that its dt hes previously and continuously called corrupt. Calling on voters to cast their ballots by any means necessary including using mailin and absentee ballots. The campaign and rnc released a campaign on the new initiative claiming it gives pennsylvania voters the ability to directly request mailin ballots, bypassing the Department Of Pennsylvania website. Rnc chair Michael Watly added, quote, as President Trump has consistently said voting by mail, voting aurally, and voting byelection day are all good options. That is true but just a couple days ago their candidate was expressing a very different message on mailin voting during an interview with dr. Phil. I know there are things you are not in favor of this ballot harvesting, this mailin ballots. Its all terrible. It shouldnt be allowed. Its a whole different mind set. But it is. Youre right. Republicans like to go there on tuesday and vote in person, and thats been for, you know, a long time, many years, decades. Decades. Its a familustom. Its a beautiful thing. The democrats play a different game. Anytime you have a mailin ballot, theres going to be massive fraud. In person, mailin, however you want to vote, theyre all good options. Vice president ial nominee j. D. Vance held a rally yesterday in michigan speaking to a crowded horse farm, vance focused on the economy and jobs. He also made a joke about Kamala Harris stealing trumps policies and even said he felt sorry for her. When i read a story this morning that her advisers are considering just copping all of Donald Trumps policies. Theyre more popular. In fact, ive heard that for her debate in just a couple of weeks shes going to put on a navy suit, a long red tie, and adopt a slogan make America Great again. Now, i will confess that in some ways i have a soft hard, ladies and gentlemen. In some ways i feel bad for Kamala Harris. They dont. You dont. But i really im not sure that this is a woman who knows what she actually believes. She is if you think about it shes just a cog in the wheel of a very corrupt system. Still ahead well turn to sports with highlights from major league baseball. Plus two time open champion naomi osaka makes a return to Flushing Meadows with a win against a top ranked opponent in more than four years. A check on sports and Weather Forecast when way too early returns. Forecast when way too early returns. . Oh ugh. girl dad. vo you break it. 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The former world number one defeated helena in straight sets yesterday to advance to the second round of the u. S. Open. And on the mens side the top ranked needed four sets to get through the first round. Yesterday marked sinners first match since avoiding suspension after first testing positive in march for a banned anabolic steroid. Meanwhile, unranked daniel evans outlasted number 23 in the longest match of the u. S. Open since tie breakers were introduced back in 1970. Evans trailed 40 in the fifth set before running off the last six games. The final point was a marathon 22shot rally won by evans after 5 hours and 35 minutes on the court. Im tired just thinking about it. Time now for the weather. Lets go to meteorologist Angie Lassman for the forecast. What do you got for us . Good morning. Weve got a cup of spots of rain, severe weather, and still some heat to talk about, ali. Some rain across the midwest and great lakes. Thats where its been centered for the bulk of the past 24 hours. We saw the really impressive storms developing across that area yesterday, and were going to have now a chance for folks a little farther to the east to get in on that action. 28 Million People under the potential for severe risk today, and it stretches from Ohio All The Way to new jersey. Well see places like philadelphia, washington, d. C. , pittsburgh, and columbus all included in the area that has the best chance of seeing likely some strong wind gusts, maybe some hail. The good news is the tornadoes risk is quite low, but youll still have to deal with some of this rain as it works the east. Heres the system were going to be watching. Out ahead of it youll see thunderstorms that develop and potentially even as we get into tomorrow well have to be talking about more of those thunderstorms across this region, but the heat has been getting a lot of peoples attention. Weve got 51 Million People under heat alerts right now. This is going to be something we see across this area for at least another day or so before relief arrives thanks to that cold front. In the meantime 98 for louville, 104 in washington, d. C. Its hot, its uncomfortablech across parts of the great lakes, though, temperatures are starting to wind down and youll see nicer conditions. 90 degrees in charlottesville, but more mild conditions settling in, a high of 60 degrees in new york city as we wrap up the weekend. Not loving this forecast, my friend. Going to need you to go back to the drawing board. Okay. Angie lassman, thank you so much. Still ahead weve got the very latest from israel and what were learning this morning about the successful rescue of one hostage being held by hamas in gaza. Way too early is back in just a moment. Gaza. Way too early is back in just a moment complete nutrition you need, and the flavor you love. So, heres to now. 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He spoke to both israels president and Prime Minister yesterday with this video released of his discussion with benjamin netanyahu. His phone call said they worked around the clock to free remaining hostages, adding that, quote, people are really suffering, you cant imagine. Joining us now she previously served as a senior director at the white house in the obama administration. So lets just pick right up there. Weve seen the continued hostage negotiations, of course key officials are still in the region trying to hammer out these time details. But even as we were talking in the break, its difficult i think for people to discern where these negotiations are even at because theyve had such a start, stop cadence to them. Whats your read on them as someone whos been previous to discussions in a Previous Administration . This is one of the hardest negotiations we have ever seen. This has stymied republican and democratic administrations alike for more than two years. There are two things deeply desired. Netanyahu deeply wants hamas not to have any role in a future government or any role in the governing of gaza Going Forward, and of course hamas wants a recognition and liberation of the palestinian state. Unfortunately, those two things are in opposition at the moment. What israeli want, they have 105 hostages back. Still 105 people held in captivity. Israeli sentiment right now is that netanyahu has not prioritized that in his continued raids and invasion of gaza, that getting hostages back and antiterrorism was the target and real mission, then it would not be a ground war. Thats traditionally not what you do meet those objectives. The challenge is the United States obviously as an ally of israel is being held to account globally and domestically for netanyahus actions. So the United States really wants a ceasefire deal. But they seem to want it more than hamas and netanyahu do. They seem to have a great story being against each other and that allows them to stay in power. Its the way in which politics has always been loom over the policy and negotiations on this. You make reference to not just the policy overseas but the politics very much in play over here as the u. S. Tries to keep people at the negotiating table. I think the fear this region is a tipder box and as we saw once again escalations over the weekend between forces in israel and in other neighboring countries. The fear was that could have exploded into something more. Thankfully, it did not, but when youre looking at that, what else are you looking at in the region drawing your attention right now . Part of it is how the is United States going to have to back up its ally . And we have carrying forces in the region right now, plenty of assets on the saudi side as well as the israeli side of the equation. But you also have israel potentially on a war on two fronts. Thats where the attacks into lebanon become a challenge. Idf and the Israeli Community cant handle the stretch of fighting a war in gaza as well as in lebanon. So the tradition is youll see a tit for tat, you know, a response, a reaction. The goal is always to not have an escalation, something that just seems so out of the ordinary that it will lead to a broader regional conflict. So iran certainly on the hook. Were going to be anticipating that they will retaliate in some way, but the longer and longer that takes, the more diplomats and diplomacy involved, the less that idea will spark that tinderbox. At the same time we receive News Netanyahu and the idf conducted raids in the west bank. Nine people were killed. Theyre climating terrorism and wanting to stamp out terrorism as part of that. While this is all happening domestically, while were seeing the focus on gaza, the idea of a twostate solution relies on actually have some territory in the west bank stay intact for palestinians, and that is further and further away from the case now. That is one of the conversations we were having on morning joe about this, that the longer the fighting goes on, the more difficult it becomes for a twostate solution. Thank you for joining us. And still ahead we go live to cnbc for an early look whats driving the day on wall street after another record close for the dow. Were coming right back. The dow. Were coming right back. Restaurant Noise allison Restaurant Noise [announcer] introducing allisons plaque psoriasis. She thinks her flaky, gray patches are all people see. Otezla is the 1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. Over here otezla can help you get clearer skin and reduce itching and flaking. With no routine blood tests required. 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Well, another record high for the dow, and we also say the major indices on wall street ending higher overnight. Thats all positive news for the trading day ahead, and it really shows that investors are perhaps showing more signs of stabilization, more signs of calmness here after what was a really brutal start for the month for stocks. Of course, we have also seen fed chair Jay Powell Signaling that the time has come to cut Interest Rates state side. And investors see that as a positive fall signal as well we could perhaps see more market gains to come. So the focus on wall street right now is when were going to see that first rate cut and by how much it will be. But at the same time as well, investors also zeroing in and focusing on earnings to essentially justify some of the rich valuations that we see among those megacap tech stocks in the United States as well. Well, you mention earnings there because Earnings Season is in fullswi, and one report today could actually have a major impact on the markets. What is it, and why is that . Okay, so keep watch on nvidia today. It is one of the most important stocks on wall street, at least according to analysts that weve been speaking to. No pressure, right . Expectations are running really high when nvidia reports results after the bell. And remember this is a stock thats already up more than 10 in the month of august. Its actually up around 160 ytd as well, so its very expensive. We need to see those numbers to justify that type of valuation. And when you look at what to expect here, the focus is really going to be on the guidance. Nvidia has been able to impress investors up until now, but theres a saying on wall street. As goes nvidia, so goes the market. And theres a real concern that if we saw nvidia disappointing today, then perhaps it may not be a green light for further market gains. So all eyes are on nvidia. Its the most crucial stock to watch in the next 24 hours on wall street. You were joking no pressure. I mean, when you say it like that seriously. One last thing for you, dan. The Crypto Currency Market is experiencing a downturn. Whats causing that to tumble . Yeah, ali, i thought you might be interested in this as well because, of course, a lot of people now exposed to the crypto space. Seeing bitcoin fall below 60,000 usd. Panelists say this move lower was driven by a drop in inthereium. August is, of course, typically a pretty quiet month for risk assets, for equities, and for crypto. But this is interesting because we have seen crypto and bitcoin being volatile all year, but still mostly in a range, trading between 55,000 and 70,000 usd this year, and still up around 40 of ytd. Also holding onto around a 7 gain, so we have seen some money coming out of this market. Again, i think it ultimately all comes back to what we see from nvidia and whether or not were going to see wall street continue to climb higher that will determine whether or not investors feel confident to put money in such a high risk, such a volatile space. Cnbcs dan murphy live from london, thanks for joining us. Still ahead a new survey shows black women are increasingly motivated to vote this year. Well break down the number and the potential impact on novembers election when way too early returns. Election wh too early returns over the powe. With wegovy®, i lost 35 pounds. And some lost over 46 pounds. And im keeping the weight off. Wegovy® helps you lose weight and keep it off. Im reducing my risk. Wegovy® is the only fdaapproved weightmanagement medicine thats proven to reduce risk of major cardiovascular events in adults with known Heart Disease and with either obesity or overweight. Wegovy® shouldnt be used with semaglutide or glp1 medicines. 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The poll found 71 of black women voters agree that this is the most important election of their lifetime. The nonpartisan poll also found 86 of black women say they will definitely vote this election. Thats an 8point increase from last year. Joining us now is race and politics reporter for the hill. Im interested in this data but specifically 71 of black women say this is the most important election for them, the most important election theyll vote in. Feels like every election is the most important, but why this one . Whats different . Whats interesting is the polls showed how so many black women feel democracy is literally on the ballot this year. And so we have seen them point toward things like the overturning of roe v. Wade and concerns around abortion. Theres concerns around education, the economy, of course. Thats the one thing we definitely keep hearing across the board the economy, the cost of goods, lowering inflation, being able to afford groceries. But also part of that, they want safer communities. So were seeing so many constant issues popping up especially with black women of where their top concerns are this year. Its notable when you talk about things like the economy, because i think broadly women are the ones in their household that are usually in charge of the purse strings. It makes a lot of sense, of course, when you then pair that with polling. I think the flip side of this coin is plaque voters are such a central part of the coalition. Its interesting they definitely say they would like to make in roads with all black voters. Were not seeing that often translate, however. We do sometimes hear the messaging might be off, and we often hear them pointing towards the top of ticket and concerns around the rhetoric we hear coming from the former president and that influencing whether or not they feel comfortable volting for the Republican Party Going Forward this november. Its such a notable thing you talk about. I remember when i was writing my book, it was very important to point out the gender gap is driven by men becoming more conservative, not women necessarily changing the way that they vote. And so much of the women vote is made up of black women consistently coming back as loyal voters to the democratic party. When you see numbers like this that say more women are plan on voting, they think this is the most important election in their lifetime, what does that tay to you about turn out . Its how much of that coalition they make up. So what i think is going to be really interesting this year is looking to see how much black women are able to encourage other members in their community to show up and cast their ballot. We know this year especially black men are considered a vulnerable population for both parties. Weve heard former President Trump trying to make in roads with them at the same time weve seen Vice President Kamala Harris seems to be doing really well with black male voters. So i think the role of black women this election isnt going to be just showing up at the ballot box but how much they can convince other voters to show up this year. How much of that is about Kamala Harris, a black woman herself being on the ticket . That is so amazing, right . We keep hearing how so many women are so excited to cast their ballot for the first black female nominee. Of course a lot of folks are drawing comparisons to when former president barack obama ran in 2008 and the sense of excitement and hope. I think it shouldnt go unnoticed that for black women this is an incredible moment, and i think we saw that at the dnc and the diversity in the audience and how many women were there and how many black women were speaking. Definitely excitement this year. Thats something ive heard from black voters and factor wi. Its going to be Tref Ingterest see how it cuts across lines. Up next, well go with Vice President Kamala Harris plan to get young voters. 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Harris directed a letter to College Students writing, quote, your vote has never mattered more. Joining us now cohost of msnbcs can the weekend, symone sanderstownsend. You are the hardest working person, my friend, i saw you here at 11 00 p. M. And youre back on way too early now. I wonder your view on this new push to motivate young voters and what other steps you would advise the harris team to take at this point. Look, i think the harris team is going all in on Younger Voters and i think that matters. It is, though, important to distinguish between College Students which would be genz voters and folks millennials like you and myself, ali. The play for College Students is genz voters. But there needs to be a concerted effort which, frankly, the policy speaks to, and the Economic Policy harris has started to roll out. The chief concerns if you look at it are accountability, if you drill down, its affordability. That is housing, yes, grocery prices, that is the, you know, ability to get a goodpaying job. If you look back to midterm elections in 2022, and you take a peer into wisconsin specifically, and they had a race and a liberalleaning state Supreme Court justice now, because of the efforts to organize across the state of wisconsin but specifically on college campuses. They ran up the numbers there. Yeah. There were polling places there and it made a difference. It will make a difference. Yeah, this divide youre talking about generationally is almost the difference between brat and those of hughes had to look up what brat actually was. Look, the other piece, too, as were watching them build coalitions is the hard politics that tends to dominate here in d. C. One of those narratives is when Kamala Harris will do her first interview. So much has happened in such a short period of time. At the same time, i want to argue with more openness with the press. We now know shes going to do that interview. What do you think the best scenario . And the strategy in waiting to to do this until the first place . In 2020 after Vice President harris, then senator harris name to the biden harris ticket, they did their first interview together ten days after named and that was in a pandemic and what we call a regular election season. Last week, Vice President harris accepted the nomination herself at the top of that ticket. So, i think the timing is spoton, honestly. And when youre putting together Something Like this, you always want something to drive. When i worked for the Vice President , when i work for any other campaign, and i was setting up the media interviews, if youre going to do a big sitdown interview, you want to have something youre bringing to the interview. The thing that harris walz team now, for democrats, thats something to drive the message, maybe were going to see them unveil a new Policy Platform from the harris walz team. But having something to bring to the interview in addition to questions is always going to be key. Im looking forward to seeing how the Vice President bridges that quoteunquote gap if you will between what she said in the last president ial campaign. And the experience in the white house absolutely makes a difference and i would expect she speaks to that for sure. Yeah, bridging that gap which is a lot of us reporters who covered the 2020 race are looking to see the way she judges the bridge in that juncture. We did a segment about black women and the power she hold in the democratic electorate. Of course, the other side of that race coin is the push for white women who do tend to vote more republicans. Can you talk about the ways that the harris walz might appeal to that group of voters knowing full well that black women yeah, the apparatus, their votes are not guaranteed. Weve seen dropoff over the last three president ial elections in terms of the numbers in which black women come out and support. So i am, frankly, looking to see how the Campaign Works to drive up that number. About 90 of black women, give or take voted for joe biden and Kamala Harris in 2020, theyre going to need to maintain or up those numbers of black voters specifically. But white women are going to have to come out and vote, moderate to white women as well. This push for the economy is very important. Economics atop the list for women across the board. But also, youve seen that conservative outreach to moderate women, they need a Permission Structure as michael my friend said. Michael and i are both friends talking about the permission standard. Cohost of the weekend, symone sanderstownsend, thank you for joining us. Youre sticking around for morning joe. Im sticking around for morning joe but thank you for waking up with us on way too early. Morning joe starts now. 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