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a hard truths about misinformation that even after it costed them in court, right wing outlets remain willing to do trumps bidding. remember the separation of church and state? we are going to louisiana for the worst of the week. the vast majority of americans say they believe lgbtq plus americans deserve equal rights. so why thpride month are we seeing and up taken hate? an uptick in hate? we begin this hour by taking you back to november 3, 2020. that was election night. donald trump was enjoying his lead in the swing states against joe biden. the mood was triumphant at the white house and at the fox headquarters in new york. then at 11 1:20 pm, all broke loose. >> what is this happening here? why is arizona blue? did we just call it? did we make the call in arizona? there's a checkmark did the decision desk make it? >> yes we can confirm. >> it was fox accurately calling arizona for joe biden which changed everything. they called the entire election for biden. angry viewers flocked to far right competitors. it was significant enough to cause a ratings drop for the murdoch empire. fox adapted by questioning the election results in spreading conspiracy theories over 700 times in just the span of two weeks after biden one won. there was a little-known electronic voting company in this country. >> a lot of strange things happened. many of them were highly suspicious. dominion software. >> they've got business in venezuela . caracas, cuba, and links to china. >> the company called dominion which started in his venezuela with the software, they are capable of flipping votes. these are serious allegations. >> guess what, the pivot actually worked. fox got there viewers back from newsmax and some were banding together and storming the u.s. capitol during the january 6 insurrection. dominion had enough of fox's lies they took some to court for defamation and eventually settled for over $780 million after it was revealed fox executives and hosts were knowingly spewing his election lies in exchange for higher ratings. this takes us to where we are today. a months before the 2024 election with polls consistently showing trump and biden in a razor close race. trump is breathing down fox's neck. just this week he demanded fox corporation ceo locklin murdoch fired former house speaker paul ryan from the fox board after he dared to criticize him on the air. what is it that we are doing to offset this pressure? they suggest the election results will be rigged yet again. >> if you somehow pull this out was some kind of shenanigans , i hate to use the word so lightly but these shenanigans, you'll deal with a public that doesn't by the election. let's get rid of the drop boxes altogether. how could we accept the results of the selection in the landscape? >> so it's clear that fox learned one thing from the dominion fallouts, not the obvious one, to stop spreading election lies that threaten and undermine our democracy but rather, to be vague and careful to avoid pitting a potential unfavorable result on a specific company with a lot of money and can actually sue you. since that fateful arizona call on election night 2020, fox has been all in on supporting his assault on our democracy. like many of our republican allies, they flip-flopped from condemning the insurrection to downplaying it and casting the writers of political prisoners. he teased this specter of political violence if he loses in his right wing propaganda was. all for the sake of ratings and dollars. we have the all-star panel to break this down. our political analyst and a special correspondent. it's great to have you. it's a very rare occasion to have so many people on the set. it feels great. molly, i'll start with you. it's dij@ vu all over. though fox isn't waiting until the elections and post elections to spread the lie, they are preparing the big lie for election day. it's insane. what they're basically saying is the only way he loses is if it is a good. >> that's what donald trump is saying. you've got lou dobbs who got fired because of this lawsuit, the dominion lawsuit. $780 million. there's an awful was there is another lawsuit but they're just trying to stay well event relevant. the whole crew is just trying to stay alive. they are trying to get voters and they feel they are locked in propaganda death spiral with one american news and all of these others supercharged networks. >> their motivation is obviously ratings. they learned the mistake . tucker carlson lost his job because at the time you know they all didn't believe the election was stolen but they were going out and talking about it. it cost him his job. they were like you know what, we could talk about the big lie and push the big lie let's not name the big companies who have resources to sue hours. >> joe biden was reading the election. >> $780 million. $14 billion in earnings. they could spend another $500 million to get their earnings back with ad sales but what i find concerning is talking to trump supporters of the rallies here, the thing is, the trump supporters are intertwined with donald trump. if he loses hence they are a loser. it reminds me of the the confederacy, the lost cause a rift. that's what you have got here, the same minds of the people here. there will be fake rallies like we lost, we lost. >> you actually speak to trump voters and this is what it's all about because these hosts don't believe what they are spewing but there viewers do. these fox viewers who are trump voters believe these lies and when you go out there you hear them repeat the lies to you even if sometimes when you talk to them it doesn't make sense. >> i want to same to say something truly shocking.. we heard a lot of out there conspiracy theories but this kind of knocked me over. i talked to a trump supporter and i said who won the 2020 election and they said joe biden won fair and square and i kid you not that was the first time i've ever heard that at a trump rally. that's how ingrained the big lie is with trump supporters. the trump supporters are in the fox audience. whatever trump says goes so this is a business decision. they have to basically say whatever trump says is true because that is what the viewers want to hear. >> he himself admitted it on tape for a variety coeditor and chief who sat down with him for his new book and inquired about his relationship with the former fox host. listen to this slip up. >> he did a good job. he was smart. cunning. he did a good job. >> are you guys still close? >> no, i don't think so. after i lost the election, i won the election but when they said that -- he called me up 3- 4 times. >> quite the freudian slip. after they set i lost to the election. >> actually talked to him about his book. he said when he was interviewing trump he had a bunch of interviews where he didn't remember having the interview before it. he was really surprised and spent almost all of his time talking about how much he loved the host of the apprentice and little time how much he talked about being president. the guy is an actor. >> i do think, you know a lot of this projection what he has about joe biden, you have to wonder about how much of this is actual projection. >> the problem with this big lie is it something he says to his voters, it resulted in the insurrection on january 6. what you have now is not just a recasting of the election but the recasting of the results. now the recasting of january 6 as being political prisoners and patriots. people who felt their votes were stolen. >> he calls them warriors now. warriors aren't people who peacefully walk through the capital. they fight battles so he celebrating those people who beat up police officers. the most alarming thing is he talks about parting them and the crowd cheers them. these aren't just people in jail. he's trying to incentivize a future violence by supporters because they know. i do this close to the election and he will have my back and pardon me. it's for future crimes on his behalf. he wants them to be his violent militia. >> do you believe based on what you've seen that they are just as animated or committed this time around four years ago if there was a call to action of any kind by trump or supporters of his it could result in another january 6? >> i think what you are seeing with the courthouse , people because they believe these conspiracy theories that the fbi was behind january 6, they are worried to come here because they think that the fbi is going to set them up when really donald trump is telling them to go there and he won't do it. i think definitely with the election people are saying that they are ready to do anything for donald trump. >> that's three-dimensional chess they are playing. stick around, there's a lot more we need to discuss. new audio of roger stone revealing what trump has up his sleeve this november. ve this n (lady) 35! 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the republicans are hammering this home every day. riling up the base and democrats are saying we've got to vote but not doing anything else. >> i don't know what the dnc is doing behind the scenes but i think leading the 2020, the lawyers were ready. they would be foolish not to have the lawyers ready. they know what the playbook will be . it was much easier if he was going to overturn the election being in the white house as opposed to being outside of the white house it makes it harder now you have to remove biden second during four years now they confirmed the judges so the judiciary is different than it was in 2020. they lost all over. over the last four years they cannot give us another cannon is like jim jordan in a robe. it's ridiculous what they're doing down in florida. going to one decision, the election was illegal and had all supporters even if it's reversed. you're saying that could spark another attack. i'm not worried about litigation but the real world reaction which is another attack on the capital. >> going back to the point we are discussing before, you talk to trump supporters. the amount of belief that they have. the only way donald trump loses is through the system being rigged. on a scale of 1-10, how high is that? are they amenable to any factual results in which trump doesn't win? >> on a scale of 1 to 10 probably 15,000. most of the people like we said before, they get their news from truth social or donald trump. they believe what he tells them to believe. the reality is what he says it is. it's not just that he says this to his supporters. there's going to be lawyers and people in congress who are going to be acting out to make donald trump's reality a reality. if he believes that he won that he wants to win, he wants to win so it's really scary to see them and listen to them. hearing them say that there is this deep state attack on the donald trump and they're doing everything they can to stop it because he's fighting for me and they really believe it. he's fighting for me. not that he just has a bruised ego from losing or doesn't want to be considered a loser. >> looking back we've learned a lot. i think some felt january 6 was this kind of impromptu reactionary moment in which they wanted to hear donald trump but as we learned through the convictions of many protesters, learning names of organizations like the proud boys and the three presenters and oath keepers, we realized there was a lot of organization and prep work for the attack on january 6. the people you are speaking to i'm not trying to diminish them but do you get the sense that there's an organization behind them that is the one that we should be concerned about more so than what we are seeing in the public? i don't think a lot of people knew as much about the oath keepers, the proud boys, the three presenters as we do now. >> on january 5 when we were in dc there were militias and proud boys and they were on every street corner. they were basically creating a perimeter there so i knew about them then you still see 3% are shirts there and proud boy patches at these rallies. maybe this makes up about 1% of the people but do the math. his rallies are huge and i hope that everyone realizes this. he's getting 20,000 to 30,000 people at those things. >> let's talk about roger stone. he's saying this stuff, getting caught on a microphone. i don't know if he knows he's being recorded but you can only imagine what they are plotting or planning when we hear so explicitly part of the plan. it's like one incident and reporters may have gotten lucky. he may have just had an off-the- cuff comment. he wasn't thinking about it but you've got to wonder when he and the steve bannon's, the other senators that won't accept results of an election you think about what's taking place behind the scenes a few months out so it's a scary thought. >> look, none of this is normal. trump is running because he has this criminal exposure and figures he could get donors to pay his legal bills and that it might stop him from getting these trials. it's not like a normal republican president. this guy is running as an autocrat and has the republican party that's either afraid of him or me the calculus that they don't want this democracy anymore. it's really scary. i do think, look roger stone is a part of the pardon recipients. the point of these, when autocrats pardon people like this, they want them to do more cry more violence on their behalf. >> please stick around. don't go anywhere. coming up, what trump thinks about mandating vaccines and schools him and his rhetoric there. his slogan of make america sick again. k again. ultomiris is continuous symptom control, with improvement in activities of daily living. it is reduced muscle weakness. and ultomiris is the only long-acting gmg treatment with the freedom of just 6 to 7 infusions per year, for a predictable routine i can count on. ultomiris can lower your immune system's ability to fight infections, increasing your chance of serious meningococcal infections, which may become life-threatening or fatal, and other types of infections. complete or update your meningococcal vaccines at least 2 weeks before starting ultomiris. if ultomiris is urgent, you should also receive antibiotics with your vaccines. before starting ultomiris, tell your doctor about all of your medical conditions and medications. ultomiris can cause reactions such as back pain, tiredness, dizziness, limb discomfort, or bad taste. ultomiris is moving forward with continuous symptom control. ask your neurologist about starting ultomiris. i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein! those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. -ugh. -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals. and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic. 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that would be horrific. any parent who is to say no more vaccines for my children, i don't mean covid, i mean the ones mandated now, i think the should be charged with manslaughter. he doesn't care about that. sometimes he leads the base but in this case i think the base led him. >> he appeals to the dumbest common denominator. when you're at these rallies it's an anti-vaccination antiscience crowd. >> it's interesting to watch over the last couple of years. in 2021 we would go on the road, some of the more moderate people week we talked to, operation warp speed was such an amazing accomplishment, the whole country is open now, look at what he did but now you don't hear this from anyone. of course there's the people that think you know, jfk, the conspiracy theories. the moderate people don't think that this will accomplish anything anymore and it's telling. it's going really far. it's not just the covid vaccine which is scary. i don't know what's happening. >> rfk is obviously more anti- vaccine than trump is so he knows that and people have calculated that rfk takes away more of the extreme crazy antiscience wing of trumps voter base so to his point, he has to find some way to bring this back to the fold and instead of running on operation warp speed which may have been the single only highlight of his president the he instead was running to bring those crazy voters back to the fold. >> i think he's worried about the rfk side . again we don't really know because of all of this. add some trump voters and we don't know what the math is but i think, look, one of his biggest donors, a guy called timothy mellon who gave trump $50 million happens to coincidentally be one of rfk junior's biggest donors so there was the play here the rfk junior would take from biden and now i think trump is a little panicked so you will see more anti-vaccine. >> instead of appealing to operation warp speed and bringing independence , he's going to do something good or going for the crazy stuff but the scary thing is what this means if he is back in office because they already set their sights on a lot of the federal agencies. the department of education. the cdc. some want that abolished. when you take a big step back you see project 25 and the remaking of the federal government. it isn't hyperbolic to think that it's a punchline in a rally that could result in a serious and damaging policy down the road. >> what's really important is that he says we will defund schools. they will use appropriations as a way to mixed dates do what they want. i think they will defund blue states. the federal system, they could say, the same way we raised being 21 to drive. they did this way thinking if you want funding in your state we need to raise the age to 21. they still do this for everything. they will be no funds for anyone that allows this. allows transgender teens to get the care that they need. anything they want to do. i hope people understand they will try to control all of our lives through appropriations and squeeze the money out of this which is a blue state that followed the government but didn't get the money back. >> do you worry that it's not just trump but the people that he will bring into these positions? 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(♪♪) next friday marks the 55th anniversary of the nypd raid of the stonewall inn. the well-known gay bar in greenwich village. this led to the modern gay rights movement in america. demanding equal rights and acceptance that was not in vain. more than a half-century later, pulling from glad shows a whopping 91% of heterosexual americans agree that lgbtq plus people should live free of discrimination. 84% of non-lgbtq plus americans support equal rights. so with clear super majorities like this, why are we still seeing rising cases of hate? in a new report, there was a reveal of the uptick in cases of threats or vandalism targeted against the lgbt community since pride month again. a pride a library. a brewery in austin texas was hit with a multiple bomb threat and forced to cancel a drag brunch and pride market. the art center the first bomb threat the facility received in its 47 year history. >> samantha it's great to have you on the show. we saw the whelming overwhelming acceptance and that glad survey, how do you make sense of these attacks that even though the super majority of americans support rights for everyone, you are still seeing the minority percentage increase in hate crimes or vandalism against the community. >> yes, thank you so much for having me. if no one's set it to you yet, happy pride. i think that a lot of this comes down's to the smaller details in the polling you've mentioned. it's great to see there's been a huge uptick in support for the lgbtq ia community in general over the last few years as we've seen with legislative attacks, political propaganda and the up rise. also, a lot of recent polling over the last couple of years, couple of months, it's also indicated some of that support gets a little more dicey. a little more divisive when this comes to transgender americans in particular. i think what we are seeing is part of a unfortunately successful propaganda campaign from the republican party. a lot of propaganda on the political right who after the successful legalization of same- sex marriage in the u.s. pivoted to transgender identities, trans rights as a way to hold on to political power. unfortunately as we have seen a lot of people have not been so successful, they were not being able to parlay the potential the presidential bid. so many people making their political identities and careers based on lgbtq hate which is particularly directly at trans people. as drag queens you mentioned at the top. all those bomb threats directed at drag events of one kind or another. that's what we are seeing in particular. >> there's another scary aspect to this, that's on the legislative front. the aclu is tracking 523 pieces of anti-lgbtq legislation around the country. that's more than we showed on the map last week so this number could continue to rise. is there a correlation between the anti-lgbtq legislation coming from government officials and the threats and vandalism that are coming from the people? >> sure, absolutely. i completely agree as a journalist. it's really hard for people like myself who make this our need to keep up with the flood of these kinds of bills that are coming out of state governments and also in washington. you played the clip in your last segment of josh holly. i think that there's been a real big push to make these kinds of things into people's political identities. in order to shore up support and you could absolutely draw that correlation between the proliferation of this kind of thing. the idea that this is politically desirable to be anti-trans. these sorts of threats, this vandalism damaging incidents. just at the beginning of the month, i didn't even get into this in my article but the colorado gop openly endorsed burning pride flags. i think that's about as clear as you could get to linking the political rights in the 2020s to exactly this kind of behavior. it's the mainstream now. >> do you think, and this is something that relates to how we as a country push back against this violence, do you think we should start looking at this kind of vandalism or hate not as isolated incidents but part of a cultural of political violence that's emerging in the country? >> i think that's right. yes. the biggest thing to do is to really not treat this as, as you said, isolated incidents. these sorts of things have been growing for years. especially in the last five years. i could remember, we had seen far right militia groups like the proud boys and patriot front. they've been mobilizing in greater numbers at pride events. we have also been seeing, you know, a lot of younger people who've been successfully propagandized and are also enacting violence against their peers and other young people and that really breaks my heart. i think that there is a problem that's far-reaching. christian nationalism as he mentioned already on the show. it runs very deeply on the political right and we are seeing the ugliest side of this come out more often. >> unfortunately. thank you so much and happy pride to you as well. we appreciate you joining us this evening . thank you for being with us tonight. be sure to come tomorrow at 7:00 p.m. where we talk about the most expensive congressional race in u.s. history and the efforts to come back combat bite in 2024. starting 7:00 p.m. eastern only on msnbc. have a good night. night. farxiga can caus e serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection, an allergic reaction, or ketoacidosis. ♪ far-xi-ga ♪ ♪ [suspenseful music] trains. 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