legend, willy mays, considered by many to be the game's greatest all around player. and also ahead donald trump's latest gaff with the city of milwaukee where the republican national convention will be held in less than a month. good morning and welcome to "way too early" on this wednesday, june 19th. it is indeed juneteenth. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for starting your day with us. today americans nationwide are marking juneteenth also known as emancipation day. the emancipation proclamation freeing enslaved people in the confederate states was signed in 1863 but it did immediately end slavery in places that remained under confederate control. but it wasn't until june 19, 1865, two full years later, that union troops arrived in galveston, texas, and told more than 250,000 enslaved black people in the state that they were now free. the news was met with large celebrations, and in remembrance black communities across the country hold events, parties, and parades. the holiday acted as sort of an unofficial independence day for black americans. and then in 2021 president joe biden signed the juneteenth national independence day act, which established june 19th as a federal holiday. joining us now white house correspondent for politico and coauthor of "the play book" eugene daniels. eugene, good to see you this morning. so the president issued a proclamation marking today that today is juneteenth. he said that signing it into law as a federal holiday back in 2021 was one of his most proudest moments, but he also at the white house juneteenth celebration a week ago warned on old ghosts in new clothes threatening some of the rights that were won by juneteenth and beyond could be in jeopardy. tell us more, please. >> yeah, i was there when the president and the vice president hosted kind of a juneteenth celebration on the mall. it's the second time they've done that in their administration, and the entire event from beginning to end was filled with singers and entertainers. you had gladys bell, icons in the black community. it was hosted by roy wood jr. from comedy central. the through line of the whole thing is what you're talking about, is this history lesson reminding people of the pain and the triumph of the black community, but also, you know, the struggle and the journey going from -- going from juneteenth, to how they put it having a black woman as vice president of the united states and they're between the performances that kind of explain those things. and president biden, vice president harris when they spoke they did talk about these kinds of things that are history and the idea that black history is a part of history was something we've heard from them over and over again, but something that isn't just -- just doesn't come easy. it's hard fought just as juneteenth was, just like getting black rights in this country has been. and that has been under attack. the ghosts of the pasts is clear reference to kkk roles, right? that now there's a world in which the roles may be out in public but there's something a sinter through line. >> it comes as a moment when the president struggling with black voters his base and trying to win them back ahead of election day. stay with us here and we want to talk about this story as well. trump is now backtracking on his plan to stay at his hotel in chicago during the republican national convention being held in milwaukee. the about face came after reporters found out that his logistics which reportedly involve trump staying at trump tower in the windy city and commuting about 90 miles north to the host city of milwaukee. trump disputed those reports and told the host affiliate wtmj, that he was planning to stay in milwaukee all along. >> the convention is in milwaukee in four weeks. this would be day two of the convention. there's a report out of chicago that says you may be overnighting in chicago instead of milwaukee. is that the plan? >> well, they have -- probably they think because i have a hotel there, a beautiful hotel there, a beauty, as good as it gets, but i'm staying here. i was always planning on staying here. it's an hour and a half, sometimes maybe two hours. and again, i chose milwaukee for a reason. and just so you understand when the democrats were here, they didn't even hold it. and biden never came. i think he stood out in the parking lot for about a minute and then he left. >> but hours later chicago law enforcement confirmed that they were in fact planning security for a trump stay during the rnc convention and did so as recently as yesterday, just yesterday. they have been coordinating safety measures with the trump campaign both in person and by phone. according to the chair of the city council's public safety committee the trump campaign abruptly changed their minds and communicated with the city of chicago to say we're not coming after all. trump, of course, has been on the defensive about his views on milwaukee after he told republican lawmakers in a private meeting last week that the city was horrible. now he's claiming that he loves milwaukee. meanwhile, during his campaign rally yesterday in racine, wisconsin, trump stumbled in an attempt to mock president biden when he tried to criticize the white house for calling out deceptively edited videos known as cheap fakes which have been circulated by the rnc and right wing allies, but that's not what trump actually called them. take a listen. >> crooked joe and his handlers are insisting that he's sharper than ever, and they say the videos of crooked joe shuffling around are clean fakes. you know what a clean fake is? they're deceptively edited. all the mistakes he's made every day, he can't go any day without a mistake. now if i'm perfect, they say he made a mistake -- perfect. and i don't say clean fakes. they're the fake news. look how many you have out there. they're all over the place. >> so, eugene, we can set aside the mistake there calling cheap flakes clean fakes, but let's talk about wisconsin. it's arguably the most important state on the map or certainly one of the top two or three. president biden's path to re-election runs directly through wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan, but it seems like trump's, well, not doing himself any favors there with his recent words and this revelation he wasn't even going to stay in the state until called out about it. give us the latest from both campaigns about where they think things are in the badger state. >> i mean, one of the only things you have to do before the convention is not bad mouth the place you're going before the convention. it's a very low bar. and this is so much of how trump operates, right? all of us have seen this for a long time and you know this very well, is that he doesn't really apologize for flubs or things he has done. he seems to be lying here saying we were always going to stay there yet all the evidence shows otherwise. but you have the biden campaign and democrats being like this is -- a flub that is serious, not just something that is small and had been doing everything they can and president biden and vice president harris their twitter accounts and "x" accounts talked about how much they love milwaukee, they continued to do that. there have been bill boards. there have been full ads in the milwaukee journal sentinel, talking about the way biden talks about milwaukee and wisconsin and compares them to the way donald trump does. both campaigns including the trump campaign know it's going to be extremely close, and you can tell because now he's saying how much he likes milwaukee and he was always going to stay in milwaukee. because if he didn't care, if he didn't think the state was going to be close or he was going to have some issues winning there, then he probably wouldn't care. and so it shows you the importance of the state and that that's not going anywhere anytime soon. >> ujean, very briefly as a last question talk about the level of frustration from the white house about the cheap fakes and other means of disinformation? >> yeah, i mean, like aides have been extremely upset about this, partly because you've seen this murdoch verses the white house fight, and also because there's not much you can do about it, right? the kinds of things we're seeing and the things folks can do whether it's cutting a.i., cutting video or having a.i. do things is disturbing for campaigns. they're grappling with something that's been really interesting. they're frustrated. it's hard to overstate how frustrated they are. >> yeah, that came through from the podium, white house press secretary karine jean-pierre earlier this week. next up here we'll bring you more of the top stories including new details of justin timberlakes dwi arrest in the hamptons. and boeing's ceo was grilled yesterday about his company's safety standards and his treatment of whistle blowers. we'll go through that testimony as well as a check on sports and weather, which includes a east coast heat wave when we come right back. a east coast heat wave when we come right back ah, these bills are crazy. she has no idea she's sitting on a goldmine. well she doesn't know that if she owns a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more she can sell all or part of it to coventry for cash. even a term policy. even a term policy? 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>> yeah, i think it would. >> reporter: many family members remain furious at a previous justice department agreement allowing boeing and its execs to avoid criminal prosecution after the fatal crashes. but justice now says boeing has violated that agreement. nadia lost her daughter, samuel stumo. >> he is responsible for 346 deaths and he is free and he has no criminal charges against him at all. >> reporter: she lost her father. >> i've never seen worse acting in my life than david calhoun's apologies or attempt to apologize. >> nbc's tom costello with that report. next up here we'll turn to sports with highlights from game five of the stanley cup finals, and we'll go through the legacy of the great willy mays, maybe the best baseball player of all-time who passed away yesterday at the age of 93. we'll be right back with that. f3 we'll be right back with that. s! with its diamond weave texture, charmin ultra strong cleans better with fewer sheets and less effort. enjoy the go with charmin. an alternative to pills, voltaren is a clinically proven arthritis pain relief gel, which penetrates deep to target the source of pain with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medicine directly at the source. voltaren, the joy of movement. 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he caught it. >> you saw it. south free lake robs taylor ward of what would have been a tying home run with that leaping catch in center home run. time now for the weather and let's go to meteorologist michelle grossman. the heat is here in the north east. >> it's a tough one. we're looking at 74 million people impacted by heatedlerts whether it's a heat advisory, heat watch, heat warning. you're going to feel like over 100 degrees for several days, so you need to find those cooling centers, go to the movies, the libraries. if you have your air-conditioning and haven't used it yet, you want to make sure that is working. we're looking at temperatures soaring into the 90s on this last full day of spring. you factor in that humidity it'll feel like 107. feeling like 105 in bangore and same thing in boston 93 as well. and we're going to keep this high pressure in place, this heat dome, this bubble in place tomorrow. we're going to see those temperatures very similar to today. hot days, not a lot of heat at night. burlington, vermont feeling like 98 degrees, and there's bangore once again feeling like 104. we'll keep this ein place as we go throughout the weekend as well. lexington looking at 98 degrees. this is tough one. you want to hydrate as much as you can over the next several days. >> we'll keep an eye on that all week long. next up here more civilians in gaza appear to be speaking out against hamas amid growing calls to end the war. we'll dig into that new reporting when we come right back. dig into that new reporting when we come right back and i also have a non-profit. but no matter what business i'm in... my network and my tech need to keep up. thank you verizon business. 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[ laughter ] i'm coming for my revenge gru. who's the loser now? loser loser. -loser, loser. welcome back to "way too early." it is precisely 5:30 a.m. here on the east coast, 2:30 out west on this wednesday morning. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for being with us. it appears that more civilians in gaza are willing to speak out against hamas as the war there continues to drag on. "the new york times" interviewed nearly a dozen residents in recent months. a number of them say they hold hamas responsible for starting the war and adding to the death and destruction. a former civil servant for the palestinian authority told "the times" that hamas acts in its own interests, adding that the group is, quote, still seeking its slice of power. hamas does not know ow to the get down from the tree it climbed. another woman who fled to egypt reiterated that sentiment saying they could have started a long time ago and saved us all from this suffering. a 26-year-old lawyer says while most gazans initially supported the attack on israel, they now don't support the fact the war is continuing without any goals being accomplished, calling the conflict insanity. one of the group's goals has been to free palestinian prisoners held by israel, but one northern gaza man says that's coming at the expense of civilians. he tells "the times" this. who are you to impose this kind of life on me? my home has gone because someone's imprisonment will end after four months. why? what did i benefit from it? the comments come as hamas as yet to agree to a cease-fire deal with israel. still the group tells "the times" that public support for hamas is no less than 50%. that figure includes hamas members and their families, which the group explains to be over 100,000. elsewhere, nato secretary-general jens stoltenberg continued his visit to washington yesterday meeting with secretary of state antony blinken at the state department ahead of a trip to canada today. during public remarks secretary blinken highlighted a record 23 allies are set to reach nato's 2% defense spending goal this year. stoltenberg reaffirmed the alliance's support for ukraine in coordination with the u.s., alleging that russia's war is one that's propped up by china, north korea, and iran. tomorrow stoltenberg will return to washington to meet with national security advisor jake sullivan and some members of congress. joining us now, democratic congressman jake auchincloss of massachusetts. congressman, good to see you this morning. >> good morning. >> so the secretary-general will return to washington next month for the annual nato summit. this is the 75th anniversary of nato, in fact. the war in ukraine a primary focus. what will you be watching here? we know president biden pledged continued support but was greeted with anxiety from other world leaders about the possibility of another trump term. >> first, what we've already seen, and what we've already seen is a sharp contrast in positions of strength. russia right now has had to send vladimir putin to north korea, one of the most impoverished and isolated countries in the world to seek munitions and material for its war effort. meanwhile, ukraine has been able to really rely consistently on the european union and american not just military but economic support as well. and that support has been really guaranteed into the future through the terms of a $50 billion loan and through security guarantees for munitions. so we are sending the right message to vladimir putin, but now the united states needs to underscore and accentuate that message by authorizing ukraine to use u.s.-made weapons on sites of military application anywhere at any time in russia, energy, troop staging, industrial. ukraine cannot win this war unless the biden administration allows it to strike the infrastructure that supports russia's total war against ukraine. that's what i'm looking for. >> so let's turn now back to the israel-hamas war. what do you make of this reporting from "the new york times" that more gazan civilians are seemingly willing to openly vocalize their dissent against hamas. and then as a part two, what do you make of the latest in israel with the war cabinet being dissolved and real questions about the future of netanyahu's leadership there? >> i mean it shouldn't surprise anyone that hamas is impoverishing and emizerating 15-year regime is not popular with the people suffering from it. the quotation from "the new york times" reporting is who are you to impose this life on me? that's it. the hamas is a terrorist death cult imposing the way of life on 2 million people in gaza. and the way they can defeat hamas is through a pincer movement that can take out senior commanders of hamas. but the other is an alternative, a governance alturn to hamas. that's clearly what the people want, an entity that can provide security, infrastructure, economic development and drain the political capital on which hamas has relied. >> all right, democrat congressman jake auchincloss of massachusetts, thank you for joining us. we'll speak to you again soon. next up here we'll go live to cnbc for an early look what's driving wall street after the tech company nvidia soared to a new high, becoming the most valuable public company. we'll break down what this means for microsoft, apple, and the artificial intelligence race. we'll be right back. e artificial intelligence race we'll be right back. ♪ upbeat music ♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ (man) mm, hey, honey. ♪♪ looks like my to-do list grew. 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[ laughter ] i'm coming for my revenge gru. who's the loser now? loser loser. -loser, loser. welcome back. the trump campaign is now working directly with a group whose leader has denounced dr. martin luther king jr. and the civil rights act of 1964. on saturday immediately after speaking at a black church in detroit trump addressed the crowd at a convention organized by turning point usa. earlier this month that group's founder, a man named charlie kirk, announced the turning point was partnering with the trump campaign on outreach. kirk is one of the most popular far right voices on the internet and has made a number of racist statements over the years. among them attacking mlk has a bad guy, saying the civil rights act was a mistake, and questioning the qualification of black pilots. at saturday's event another far-right influencer took the stage and unfurled a flag that read "white boy summer." that phrase was initially coined by actor tom hank's son in 201 in reference to a song by rapper megan thee stallion. it's since been adopted by white nationalists according to to the anti-defamation league. joining us is christina greer. professor greer, it's just exhausting. let's get your thoughts on this kind of rhetoric, this kind of partnership from the trump campaign even as we hear on a near daily basis trump advisers saying they're actively trying to court black voters and they think they're being successful. >> yeah, and, jonathan, good morning. i'm not exactly sure they're being as successful as they think they are. we have to remember most people aren't paying attention to this election and won't really do so until october. what is frightening is donald trump and his allies are doubling down on racist right-wing rhetoric. he's trying to get people who don't really vote and off the grid get them mobilized and motivated. at the same time he's going to these horrible crime ridden cities he consistently talks about, cities have have large african american populations, and he's trying to do two thing. one get african americans to support him with hyperbolic statements or encourage voters to abstain full stop, where they feel many black voters are frustrated would the political system. they don't feel the democratic party has done enough over the years to warrant their full support since black voters are by and large the most loyal voters. so all donald trump really needs to do is get a small percentage of those people to stay home in major cities like, you know, in places like michigan and pennsylvania, and even georgia, and then he's got a better shot. doubling with his constant attacks on voter and election fraud and essentially saying these predominantly black cities, their results should not be trusted one way or the other. so it's the typical hyperbolic statements we've seen from donald trump they're just doubling down and getting more and more vicious i would argue in recent months. >> and of course all this comes on juneteenth when the black american experience is so front of mind. what are your reflections on this day now a national holiday? >> it is a national holiday, and i think it's interesting that, you know, the -- the previous national holiday that was mandated was mlk day in the '80s, and that was a real effort by so many african american activists. i will say, jonathan, it's a mixed emotion for me. on the one hand i think it's important that americans understand black history. black history is american history, and we oftentimes just want to erase centuries of what has happened in this country. i do also, though, think about how this came about. this is because of demands of black people saying please stop killing us in the streets in broad daylight. we're asking for social justice, we're asking for equity. when you think about the march on washington for jobs and freedom, those were the demands that were being made in 2020 in the summer of reckoning in a post-george floyd america, and this was the result -- which quite honestly very few people asked for. they asked for something much larger than this. so on the one hand, yes, it's a federal holiday and i think it opens up an important conversation about our past as americans collectively, but it also does not address the very serious questions that many 202 >> and on that, obviously we've played it earlier in the show, president biden saying that signing juneteenth into law was one of his most proud accomplishments. he has taken on some of those issues with moderate success. you know, turning back to politics. you talked about the disenchantment so many black voters have. what can the biden campaign do to make sure they don't stay home? >> yeah. i mean, i think this is going to be the real question in november, jonathan, because sadly joe biden is getting kind of the brunt of so many decades of frustration, i would argue domestically and internationally that so many americans have. as they, you know, utilize the vice president a lot more and have her going to various places around the country and talking to very different types of groups, i really do think -- you know, black women seem to be unmoved and unbothered by anything that the republican party is selling. that does not mean they need to ignore black women, before of all the demographics in the united states black women, the republican party is like kryptonite. they cannot penetrate black women. black men are more susceptible to moving. i will point out, though, don't forget, black women and black men are by and large fundamentally more likely to be democratic than latinos, asian americans and obviously definitely white women and white men, so the small percentage of black people who are interested in at least thinking about the republican party, i think democrats need to explain not just what they have done and what they will do, but the real existential threat that the republican party faces or the republican party is towards black people collectively. >> yeah. >> i mean, something not just education-wise, housing-wise, job-wise, but even, you know, the black communities are more susceptible to environmental racism. these are issues republicans by and large don't care about, and they are sort of long-term conversations that the democratic party should and could have with black voters. >> moynihan public scholar at the city college of new york, christina greer, we really appreciate your thoughts. >> thanks. a look at the party race between a housing caucus chair and a current representative that is still too close to call. and we'll also speak with senator jim buy burn on this juneteenth, and we'll u.s. surgeon general vivek murthy will talk about his call to put warning labels on social media. 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>> one thing that's clear, and i think it's clear sort of generally. it's been a hobby horse for me. it's really hard to lose a primary, and the amount of time and effort that house members spend worrying about primaries is actually really destructive for governance and getting things done. everybody is always obsessed with the far right challenge that's going to come. bob good may be the one who does it. no house republican has actually lost a primary yet, but bob good will potentially be the one example because he's managed to alienate basically every element of the republican party. obviously he turned his back, as donald trump said on him, by endorsing ron desantis, but he was also one of the key people ousting kevin mccarthy, sort of the establishment wing, the trump wing, even the most hardened conservatives don't really like bob good because his entire existence in the house has been shooting at his own team. he is a trouble-maker for really everyone there, and nobody really likes him, yet the power of incumbency is so strong that he may somehow be able to pull it off. it looks like he may be able to lose. either way, you know, the amount of time that we spend talking about primaries in the house really is out of proportion to the threat that most people face. >> good facing a very narrow deficit at the moment. votes still being counted, and indeed there may be a recount on the horizon. brendan, let's turn to the presidential race in 2024. we talked earlier on the show. more damaging headlines for trump in wisconsin. but writ large, are we starting to see what the biden campaign sort of has bet on all along, that once trump was returned to the campaign trail, once that he started getting covered each and every day as the general election nominee, that he'd start making self-destructive actions like this? >> it's not a bad bet to make. i think we have to see some evidence that it's going to change things. i think that most people know who donald trump is, and despite the fact that he's not been around, i think a lot of this is relatively baked in, and a lot of people who are, you know, particularly republicans, who are voting for donald trump aren't necessarily doing so because they think that he's a great guy, you know, with great character and integrity. they don't like joe biden, and sometimes it's that simple. however, yes, of course. as we are reintroduced, again, to donald trump's antics and the -- the pervasive chaotic feeling that was just like a wet blanket over everyone for four years, i think that that could potentially be important. i just haven't seen any data to support that it's swinging things yet. it's not a bad bet, but we don't know yet. >> and let's get your take on immigration right now. in the last couple of weeks, president biden signed a pretty tough measure at the border and then yesterday some relief for recipients -- the families of daca recipients. white house aides telling me this was indeed a bit of a nod to the left to try to show, hey, we're not endorsing trump-era policies. republicans were winning on this issue for a few months. where do you think this ends up? >> yeah. the republicans have given the president every opportunity to take the high ground and take back this issue which republicans have dominated forever, particularly by shooting down the bipartisan bill through the senate. you know, president has made efforts to try to take advantage of that, made a big point of it in the state of the union, and they had another showboat recently, but republicans are still winning on the shintaro ishihara u. it feels a bit like the president is twisting on the wind on this issue. i have a hard time believing he would have taken this legalization action yesterday had he not angered the left so