at his 70th birthday party to a hero's welcome mat the capitol steps away from where he incited an insurrection. congressional republicans have made urit clear. i'll discuss sc that with robert garcia and reacting to the supreme court's ruling on bum stocks. the move that made milwaukee famous. a new interview after donald trump reportedly calls the whole city of the republican national convention "horrible." and the next fight over reproductive rights. why the ruling on abortion th pills may not be the new final ruling. we have a lot to talk about. this is the saturday show. okay, this is for all of my shopaholics out there. what do you get the guy who's running to be the president again and just got convicted on 34 felony counts just a few weeks ago? when he has a birthday i'm not sure i have an answer, but it looks like trump.just what he wanted, endless praise and adulation from maga that he cannot live without the crowd included a host of super fans, like senator marco rubio and congressman byron donalds. this after the hero's welcome trump received when he met with republican lawmakers on capitol hill earlier this week literally returning to the scene of the crimes where the january 6th insurrection took place, and this was his first time since he was playing the role of instigator and chief. former congressman matt gaetz described the house gathering is "a pep rally for president trump." senate minority leader mitch mcconnell endorsed the session as, entirely positive, saying, it was a good meeting. as a lawyer, i can appreciate consistency, so it's nice to hear somebody like mitch mcconnell keep the same energy he had for donald trump immediately following january 6th. let's take a listen. >> there's no question. done. president trump is practically-- and morally-- responsible-- for provoking the events of the day . no question about it. this was an intensifying crescendo of conspiracy theories , orchestrated by outgoing president, who determined to either overturn the voters' decision, or else, torch institutions on the way out. >> i believe we need to hold the president accountable. i hold him accountable for the events that transpired for the attack on our capitol last wednesday.>> trump and i-- we have had a hell of attorney. all i can say is, count me out. enough is enough. >> sirs-- ma'am, sirs question mark? i beseech you to look at your own statements, as we know enough in fact was not enough. republicans are once again falling in line number trump is running for a second term, and the former president is using that to his advantage. his latest stunt, demanding the gop intervene in his legal perils. the reporting from politico reveals in the days after trump was convicted in his new york hush money case, he made an angry call to house speaker mike johnson, and dropped a truckload ofwhile telling the speaker, we have to overturn this. if you feel you are rusty on your seventh grade civics, worry no more. i'm here to tell you that is not the problem that's not how any of this works. someone might want to tell the indicted former president that congress does not in fact have the power to do what he is reportedly asking congress to do. we can start with the pesky detail that trump was convicted by a jury in the state of new york, not in the federal system. but, none of that seems to matter, not to trump, or his minions on capitol hill. speaker mike johnson has made clear that he will use his oversight powers to aid and abet trump in any way. the speaker even went as far to suggest that the supreme court should step in to help trump. now-- i don't mean to sound any alarms here, but this is really scary stuff, when the president of the united states, someone who has been in that seat, who wants to be in that seat again and the speaker of the house, don't seem to have a handle on how government actually functions. and with his political and legal fate on the line, trump now has the most loyal and powerful foot soldiers he has ever had to do his bidding. joining me now to discuss all of this is congressman robert garcia of california, member of the house oversight and homeland security committees. congressman garcia, so good to talk to you. i want to jump right into this. former congresswoman liz cheney blasted senator mcconnell for his meeting with trump on capitol hill saying "history will remember the shame of those" in the lens of history was allegiance to trump more important? coming in somewhat sarcastically, but where is the notion of consistency when it comes to how they view their fearless leader? >> i mean there is no consistency, it is all hypocrisy. it's shameful. i mean, donald trump is a con man, he is a conspiracy theory asked theorist, a trader, and it's all in his image. the fact he can come back to dc, create a spectacle in the same place where he essentially launched an attack on our government, on our institutions, and on our capitol, put lives and dangers, and lives were lost, it's really gross and shameful to cp mike johnson has become essentially the right-hand man for donald trump. he jumps as quickly as possible. they have all been to the knee, including mitch mcconnell, two donald trump, someone that should be nowhere near the presidency. so, we have an enormous amount of work to do between now and november to remind voters how dangerous not just donald trump is, but also the entire maga republican party. >> i'm so glad you brought that up. for a moment, we talk a lot about republicans, and that's fine, i want to talk about your party and its response. mike johnson, the speaker of the house, and he is essentially willing to do anything donald trump expects him to do. what is the plan for democrats and one of the least productive houses ever commit the least reductive legislative sessions we've had in congress in a very long time, what is the plan to get a policy move between now and november that democrats will be able to assail to the electorate other than pointing at republicans and saying it's their fault? >> the reality is republicans have the majority, so our ability to pass real legislation is impossible. we even had a bipartisan deal on immigration and the border that essentially donald trump killed, because he wanted to hurt joe biden. the entire mission of the republican party in congress is just to appease donald trump. what democrats are trying to do under the leadership of hakeem jeffries is to push back on every single bed piece of legislation the proposed, call out every single life, every single distortion, fight like hell in our communities, which we are doing, and call them out on their bs every single day. and, democrats have to be more aggressive. i am a freshman member, it's my first term, but as a freshman, i am proud that our incoming class understands that we are in a crisis for our democracy, and that means we have got to bring the fire, every single day, and call out every single light. we should not allow folks, like marjorie taylor greene, and lauren boebert, and matt gaetz to get what they want. >> donald trump is speaking in detroit being put on by term. actually, and marjorie taylor greene gave a speech, and let's listen for a moment to what she had to save a january 6th. >> you don't feel good about the election? there's nothing wrong with protesting it, and there was nothing wrong with protesting the election on january 6th, and any democrat, that's right- - and any democrat, any person from the mainstream media, and anyone that wants to continue to shame us for january 6th, can go to hell. >> i would love your reaction to that. >> yeah, she-- >> particularly the notion of making it a partisan issue around challenging the notion of our free and fair elections. >> yeah, first, she's an insane lunatic, let's be clear. she should not be in congress, number-one. i was one of two democrats that actually had to join her as observers, we went to the jail in dc to meet with the insurrectionist, the prisoners that were there at january 6th. it was disgusting to be there and watch marjorie taylor greene sit down, high-five these insurrectionist, give them hugs, shake there hands, pray for their safety, treating them like heroes is what she was doing along with about 10 other republicans, and i sat there and could not believe what i was seeing. and now that she calls and praises them as heroes, she calls them hostages, it's incredibly damaging to our democracy. and everyone watching and seeing what's happening in congress, as she, mike johnson, and donald trump, continue to destroy everything we know about our country. and she has no business to be in congress. she has no business being on committees. she's honestly i disgusting, she's a disgusting person. >> in terms of the recent ruling this week about gun bump stocks from the supreme court, what art democrats going to do, if anything, about it? in many respects allusion to congress legislating around this if this is a big issue for them, what about legislation? >> the nra is in the pocket of donald trump, and the republicans are in the pocket of the nra and donald trump. so there is one thing democrats and the whole country can do to take on gun violence in this country, and that is to reelect joe biden and to ensure we flip the house. there are real commonsense gun safety reforms we can enact in this country that will save lives, but that is not going to happen if we do not reelect joe biden, and if somehow donald trump is able to appoint more justices to the supreme court or across the country, we are in emergency right now across this country. we have to reelect joe biden. it's the most important thing we can do, and we will enact real gun reforms across this country. >> california's congressman robert garcia, thank you so much for joining the saturday show. coming up, the mayor of milwaukee's new response after donald trump called his city horrible. plus, the fight for reproductive freedom at the supreme court and on capitol hill. wife there may be bigger battles ahead. i'm carl charles coleman junior . you are watching the saturday show. day show. 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make it make sense to me, please. >> there's not a strategy in trump world right now except for whatever trump is feeling that day of the week. what's on his mind is usually making others. he has mischaracterized, leaned on ancient stereotypes. he's not thinking about what's right, just what gets to people, that misinformation that maybe will get people animated and fearful of a change in america, that maybe they don't fit into, and what he's relying on, charles, wisconsin delegation of republicans in congress that are well over a decade and a half pledged allegiance to him. there was a former rnc chair, members of congress, that havel had this fealty to trump. pushing it forward in the party, and he has a narrow vision. he's not thinking straight, and he's kind of going right for that again, i hate to say it, but red meat, that changing america and america that does not fit in for folks who are white. >> for a moment, talk to me about what this means for ballot candidates in his own party and purple districts or light red districts and still need to get reelected or elected when he pulls a stunt like this one month before their national convention. >> yeah, it's a moment again which highlights how every man is for themselves. in the races they are in, when you are in a tough district, which trump did not win, in the house in particular they let out that they are left to their own devices. the can't call this guy into the district. he's terrible for them. so again, it's just a moment that doesn't really jive with how actual, i don't want to say, retail politics is done, just decency. there was a time when you get together, you talk about unity, you put forward a more hopeful agenda for the country, you start to talk about what you are for or against, that's all been flipped on his head. so these folks and purple districts are abandoned. simply put. >> amisha, you teach people about micro aggressions all the time for the following phrase is when i'm sure you've had come up in different workshops. i can't be racist, because-- all of my friends are-- black, gay, queer, latino, disabled, from a different planet, whatever it is-- trump is starting a new coalition that is essentially blacks for trump. he said if i was racist they would not be with me for two minutes. can you please explain for our audience how deeply problematic this logic is? >> well, it is deeply problematic and frustrating, and to your point, you would be hard-pressed to find those with racial prejudice who have not said this. those same people are supporting laws and policies that restrict access for black people in employment and higher education, small business ownership and things like that. they are black people who are not friends to the black community. individuals who stand by the republican party who happen to be lgbt, who are watching book bans, restricting access for lgbt people, and being able to pursue love and pursue family. that is coming out of the republican party they stand behind, so it's not uncommon, unfortunately, to see individuals who have animosity toward racial groups or against lgbt groups and things like that to also say they have friends within those cohorts, but i would question those friends, because if you pull back that later those friends are typically people who also align with being anti-lgbt, anti-black. it is not reflective of the values or policies that would move the community forward, they are often times self-hating and people who are actively fighting against their own self interests. >> we will see the president tonight going out into los angeles and having a fundraiser with some big names, jimmy kimmel, george clooney, former president obama among them. with this play into the trope that democrats are elitists and not concerned with the common man in america? >> one of the most working- class cities in america, of all the working-class cities i can think of in america are within the midwest, milwaukee is one of the strongest. for trump to see what he said about milwaukee, that was a direct attack on working-class people. i think any administration and any campaign you will see fundraising tactics that are small and large donor. we know that for the biden campaign, an overwhelming majority of his campaign funding has come from small donors, so everyday people are getting on a monthly basis, recurring donations. this is no different than any other campaign, where you are working to build your base across multiple sectors. the democrats especially under this president have had a strong relationship with people across multiple areas of the entertainment industry. that's not new. democrats have always had those relationships. we saw some republican presidents who had as well, because donald trump stands for what he stands for he typically pulls some of the most low hanging fruit of those who happen to be celebrity status, everybody has pushed to the side , so like c-list, d-list celebrities, he's tried to pull that on as well. i don't think this does anything to diminish president biden, he's playing all the angles he can, because it's a competitive race, but he's strategic in understanding that his fundraising hall is four times that of the rnc, and that will keep rolling. >> amesha and rina, thank you both for being here. a turbulent fight for reproductive rights and what's to come. we'll talk to someone who knows a whole lot about this and get her thoughts on the other side of this break. you are watching "the saturday show." rday show." farxiga can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection, an allergic reaction, or ketoacidosis. ♪ far-xi-ga ♪ sup? 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>> you know, although the case was a win for the manufacturers of the pill, essentially brett kavanaugh left the door open for others to challenge mifepristone. it is a drug that has been authorized for over 20 years by the fda. it's safer than tylenol. it is the most widely-used form of abortion in this country, and now the abortion bans and restrictions have become more vital than ever. i think it would be foolish for them to bring the case right now. >> we saw some gamesmanship in congress around efforts for protecting ivf. if both parties agree it should be protected, don't you think this is something that will eventually garner some level of bipartisan support on capitol hill? or will this we partisan politics until the end? >> it's so interesting to see the number of republicans who have come out with ads or statements in support of ivf. it was wild that ted cruz himself was a co-author of a republican bill, but here's the truth. they are putting forth symbolic statements and gestures to support ivf but aren't getting to the issue of why it's under threat, and that's because of so have, we believe life begins at conception, if you believe that, destruction of embryos that actually happens in the case of ivf, it's abortion, so until republicans grapple with how entangled they are over the extremist antiabortion movement they will not be able to put forth policy that addresses the threat. the overturning of roe v wade led us down this path and there won't be a fix until we fix and codify a federal right to abortion, which only joe biden and democrats are able and willing to do. >> you mentioned embryos that may be destroyed during the process, but if i'm not misunderstanding, most people go through this process because they are trying to conceive, they are trying to have children. how is it you can also be so pro-life but then have a problem with the process, because they want to have children? 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[panting] this wednesday, june 19th, americans across the country will celebrate juneteenth, a federal holiday that commemorates the end of slavery in the united states. the white house got an early start with a star-studded celebration on the white house lawn and other cities are hosting events throughout the week as well. juneteenth honors the day in 1865, when a group of union soldiers arrived in galveston, texas, and finally told the enslaved people there that they were free. for perspective it's worth noting that in 1865, the emancipation proclamation had been signed more than two years earlier. still, resident biden made juneteenth a national holiday, in 2021. in a nation that continues to struggle with its original sin, this marked a very important moment in america's reckoning with its racial past, but there are still efforts to undercut and erase black history, and to downplay systemic racism in america. for one of the latest examples we need look no further than a decision handed down by the oklahoma state supreme court. this week the court dismissed a case brought by the last known survivors of the 1921 tulsa race massacre, which remains even as it is not alone, one of the worst acts of racial violence in united states history. the last two survivors, who are now more than 100 years old, argued they were entitled to reparations after a white mob destroyed over 1200 homes, hundreds of black-owned businesses, and killed up to 300 people all on the night of may 31st, 1921. the lawsuit was brought under the state's public nuisance law where plaintiffs argued the attacks continue to cause lingering damage to the city, but oklahoma's justices ultimately ruled the case did not fall within the scope of the statute. joining me now to discuss this is demario solomon simmons . he is a birthday boy, happy birthday and happy celebration, and he is my frat brother. big brother, sir, let's go ahead and get started. >> sure [ laughter ] >> talk to me about the impacts of this decision to talk to me about how significant this decision is. >> thank you for having me on the show, charles. this was such a devastating blow, not only to my clients, and my community, but for african americans throughout this country who are trying to provide repair for the damages that have been done, and the continuous harm of it. i think people looking to our case with such anticipation, as you stated, we have living survivors. we had three, we lost one at 102 years old. right there on your screen, ms. fletcher 110 years old, is devastating to lose in the supreme court. we are scheduling to appeal, and with the june set celebration at dc, i was there. i am calling on the administration to have a federal investigation, particularly our department of justice, they need to step in pursuant to the cold case act of 2007 reauthorized in 2016, that gives them the authority to investigate civil rights claims to civil rights climes, that occurred between 1920- 1970. >> one of the things you mentioned was the notion that we don't have any guarantee that these plaintiffs are going to be around. these people are literal living history. >> right. >> talk about the fact that as we are holding onto that living history there are attacks on the history books that students are supposed to learn from. conceivably speaking in 25 years people may not know about the tulsa race massacre, and there are people who are survivors who may not be here as well. how significant are the two things when you put that in the context of trying to get redress for these victims? >> you know, charles, i went to school on greenwood avenue at middle school. i never learned about the massacre. 30 years ago i was in middle school, i never learned about the massacre. this is a whole systematic effort to take away our history so people don't understand what happened, so people don't feel bad about it, moving forward, so it could be repeated. that's why we are fighting so hard. my organization, justice for greenwood, in addition to the litigation, we had a genealogy event, over 100 african americans come out to learn about their genealogy, so we can make sure these stories continue to live forward. we have done oral histories for over 100 people so far, and we want to get the oral histories of all of our descendents throughout this nation. that's why we are just focused on one thing, we want to record and preserve our history. >> happy birthday, and best of luck as you move forward with your petition and fight for justice. that was demario solomon simmons. >> thank you, brother. how the racial divide is impacting the fight against poverty. we will discuss the movement to overcome these divisions. you are watching "the saturday show." ♪♪ ♪♪ citi's industry leading global payments solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries... and help a partner like the world food programme as they provide more than food to people in need. together, citi and the world food programme empower families across the globe. your best defense against erosion and cavities is strong enamel. nothing beats it. i recommend pronamel active shield because it actively shields the enamel to defend against erosion and cavities. i think that this product is a game changer for my patients. it really works. you want thicker, stronger, fuller hair? 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>> i spent a long time in political mythology, johnson knew it was happening with the so-called southern strategy. the way we measure official poverty i say in the book is not only a lie, it is a lie in how it marginalizes. most of the time we talk about poverty in the media or anywhere else, you see a black woman on welfare, when 26 million black people are poor or low-wage, which is 56%. for white people, about 30%. and the fact is that's 40 million more than black people. whenever you put poverty as a black issue you end up demeaning black people, which is racist, but you also dismiss tens of millions of white people who are in the same boat. the majority of which are white women. what dr. king said, and others have said, the greatest fear of the oligarchs in this country want to be greedy and use race to hold onto that greed. masses of poor white people could come together, vote and shift the architecture of the country. poor and low-wage people are in fact the greatest swing vote, potential swing vote, in this country. >> i'm glad you brought up dr. king. both he and others like fred hampton for example, understood that uniting people not along necessarily race but class and economics was the key to progression, but my question to you is, do you think by highlighting white poverty this potentially forms a pathway for unity in a way that can begin to dismantle those systems that keep people in america impoverished? >> yeah, what we do in the book is expand race, lift it up, show how the racial is asian of poverty is used against both. what we are saying to america is we have 55 million people in this country who make less than a living wage. we have not raised the minimum wage since 2009. that hurts all people, in the south most of the southern states did not expand medicaid, but the majority in those southern states that would benefit from medicare expanding is are white. we have to attack it in this moment. 40% of the electorate in battleground states, that's why june 29th, the poor people's campaign led by and third 30 organizations that were present over 60 million, we are calling for a mass poor people's assembly and march on washington to put the face of poverty and low wages before the nation. also we have a plan to reach 15 million poor voters, who tend to vote progressive. nobody talks to them, the politicians don't talk to them, the debates don't talk about poverty and low wages. we must stop and deal with an american crisis. 295,000 people die every year from poverty and low wages. this is not an anomaly, it's a serious issue. >> bishop, one thing you talk about that i love is this notion of moral fusion. you've talked a lot about the voting strength of this demographic in america. from a moral fusion place, identify what is the issue? how does that translate for voters going to the polls? what does that look like when people are going to cast their vote this fall? >> part of what moral fusion says is whether you look at the color someone has or how many times they have assaulted somebody, or even their age, you look at their policies, and you take your deepest moral convictions of the constitution establishing justice, providing for the common defense of all people, religion, and put on top of these policies and say, does this policy establish justice? if it does i support the person who supports it. if it doesn't, i won't. does it support general welfare for all? lastly, what you recognize, the same people against a woman's right to choose are against living wages and healthcare. if they are cynical enough to be together they ought to be common enough to get together. >> bishop william barber, we appreciate your time. we will be right back. ht back. ? -not a game. -not a game. -talking about cashbackin. -cashbackin. cashback like a pro with chase freedom unlimited. how do you cash back? 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