Its good to be back with you for this second hour of Chris Jansing reports. At this hour, the speaker of the house about to call on the president of the Columbia University to resign, with tensions growing over protests on campus. Can the school reach a deal with students camped out over the conflict in gaza . Well get a live report. Plus, a major test of how the war is affecting democrats at the ballot box. And an Nbc News Exclusive, the fbi director sounding the alarm. What he said about chances for a Terror Attack in the United States similar to the massacre at a russian concert hall. And Donald Trumps daughterinlaw talking election day and the rnc plans that are causing a lot of controversy today. Our nbc News Reporters are following all of the latest developments. Lets start here in new york with the ongoing protests at Columbia University. Nbcs trymaine lee is reporting from right outside campus. Speaker johnson planning a Press Conference there next hour after meeting with jewish student. I know we have a preview of what he plans to say. What can you tell us . Reporter thats right, chris. As Student Protesters and the administration continue to meet and negotiate about protests here on campus, the next hour, House Speaker johnson will be meeting with those students, and he plans on announcing a push for the resignation in the coming days. The campus cant ensure the safety of jewish students. Lets take a listen. Well be hosting a Press Conference with colleagues from House Republicans of new york to call on the president of the university, its unconscionable. Theyre expected to run for their lives and stay home from class. Its maddening. Reporter president shafik has found herself in an uncomfortable position. Losing support of the protesters on campus who want to make sure their rights are maintained. On The Other Side, a growing list of republicans who are demanding her ouster. As they say, she cant assure the safety of jewish students here on campus, chris. Trymaine lee, thank you. Nbcs ali vitali is on capitol hill for us. There was a big contested house race in the pennsylvania primary. Tell us why this is significant and what happened . Reporter it was a significant place for us to watch, chris, and i actually just got back from pittsburgh after reporting on this story in the early half of the week. This contest between the incumbent Congresswoman Summer Lee and her opponent, a local council man, ultimately it was the incumbent who came out on top by a whopping 20 points. Its not surprising if you had been following the polling. It was the first litmus test we got to see of the israelgaza conflict playing out in stark terms in a historically jewish neighborhood, one that was the location of the horrible 2018 Tree Of Life Synagogue Shooting where eleven people were killed. That was certainly something that we were watching as the dynamics here played out. It also came in the immediate days after congresswoman lee voted against aid to israel as part of the package of foreign aid that moved through the house. I asked her about this issue writ large on the day of the primary. Watch what she told me. The reality is that israel and palestine has been used as a wedge long before october 7th. We know that. Progressive members of congress have, you know, been attacked or maligned because of their votes or their viewpoints on critiquing or criticizing or Holding Accountable israel for many years. We know where that wedge is coming from, almost always from the right wing. This is an issue that can divide the democratic party, but more importantly its our coalition. Reporter we were looking at this race for all of those reasons. Its important to point out that congresswoman lee had a challenger in this race well before the october 7th attacks that we saw in israel. That is something that her opponent then further used to highlight the differences between them. They werent only over israel. They were on banning tiktok, that we saw play in Pennsylvania Writ large. All of that going to parlay into november as we look at an early plot point and several progressive members receiving challenges from the pro israel side of their party that were going to see play out over the course of the next several weeks and into the summer, chris. Ali vitali, thank you. Now an Nbc News Exclusive, a chilling warning from fbi director Christopher Wray about the potential for a coordinated Terror Attack on u. S. Soil. Nbcs tom winter has more of this Nbc News Exclusive interview. What did the fbi director have to say . Right, chris. Yesterday when the fbi director started to speak to our colleague lester holt, he talked about the overall threat environment. He says its one of the worst that hes seen in his entire career in federal Law Enforcement. Thats when he looks at the threats from china, from iran, from russia, as well as domestic terrorism threats and then the types of threats that youre talking about. This chilling warning about a foreign directed terror plot. Something we havent seen since approximately 2015 or so. So its been almost nine years since we have seen this type of attack. Lets listen to what he had to say. We are increasingly concerned about the potential for some kind of coordinated attack here in the homeland, maybe not that different from what you saw against the concert hall in russia a few weeks ago from isis k. I think a couple of key points there. He clearly picked that specific incident because its a foreigndirected terrorist plot. Thats when an organization, not somebody whos in their basement or somebody whos looking at their phone on their lunch break and consuming propaganda, that tends to be somebody whos being told what to do, how to prepare, what specific targets to attack, and how they can do that. Those attacks tend to potentially be much more harmful, not that any Terror Attack isnt. Thats something that clearly has the fbi concerned. The drum beat from the fbi, and they would have said this prior to hamass attack, we thought that the threat level there was increasing. Its clearly ramped up since then. According to the fbi as well as state and local Law Enforcement officials weve spoken with, and they are raising the concern about this. And obviously that attack that we saw in moscow killed a number of people. It was a coordinated weapons attack as well as a fire. Youre looking at it there that took place afterwards. Something that federal terrorism officials and Law Enforcement officials are look at. A fire with an active shooter event, in the challenge race with the first responders. Put together, it certainly, as you described, a chilling warning and one based on my reporting is one that we should probably be taking quite seriously. Tom winter, thank you. Rnc Cochair Lara Trump is making headlines for new comments about Poll Watchers on election day. Nbcs dasha burns is following this story for us. What did Donald Trumps daughterinlaw have to say about it . Well, look, this is all part of what the rnc calls a masive voter integrity operation. Claiming theyre going to deploy A Hundred Thousand volunteers and attorneys across Battle Ground states to protect the vote and ensure a big win in november. Our comments to newsmax raise a few flags. Listen. So will they be allowed to physically handle the ballots as well, lara . Yep, and that means, eric, that they should know and they can count how many ballots come in and how many ballots should go out of every single polling location. Heres Something Else we need to make clear. If we catch you cheating and were looking out there for you to cheat, we will prosecute you to the full extent of the law. So, of course, observers, Poll Watchers, volunteers, all of that is welcome and encouraged from both parties during an election, but some of what she had to say, and some of what the rnc outlined in their plans had some Election Experts concerned that it could end up leading to Voter Intimidation or chaos at the polls where folks arent properly trained or become a little bit aggressive about this, given how much the former president does continue to talk and make false claims about a rigged 2024 election. Lara trump told Garrett Haake in an interview that quote, 2020 is in the past, but of course her fatherinlaw continues to hammer that on the Campaign Trail and pretty much any chance he gets. Dasha burns, thank you. In 60 seconds, the antiwar protests disrupting classes and potentially graduation ceremonies. 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My colleague, Erin Mclaughlin spoke to one of them, andrew stein, who shared his experience while on campus at a proisrael counter protest. We started saying in arabic, hamas, hamas, our beloved, please bomb tel aviv. Stein says this video shows him being followed off campus. Me and my friend had poured in our face. Reporter they have no knowledge of any antisemitism on campus saturday night. Anyone who makes threats to a jewish student, we oppose you. I want to bring in jacob smelz, a senior at Columbia University, and the jewish on Campus Student union. Thank you for being with us, jacob. Thank you so much for having me. I know you said you feel safer off campus right now, can you describe what this last week or so has been like for you . Its been incredibly distressing to be a jewish columbia student over the past week. Ever since the hearing in the house educational work force community, jewish students have felt threatened. We have had many antisemitic incidents that have gone on, lots of rhetoric. I have a friend who was simply trying to go back to his dorm late saturday night, wears a star of david necklace, and he was told to go kill himself. I think that speaks to the level of intimidation that jewish students are currently feeling. How do you even deal with that . Did you feel any conflict about leaving campus . During College Years, thats your home, right, thats where your friends are. Thats where the people you have gone through all of this with. I mean, did you hesitate at all . Is the threat so real and present you just had to leave . Yes. Absolutely. Im a current senior. Im graduating in a month. This is the time i should be enjoying college and spending time with my friends and really trying to enjoy my last month. Instead im at the place where i feel so disconnected to the rest of my community, and i feel so physically and emotionally unsafe that i decided i had to go home. Additionally it has been the Jewish Holiday of passover over the past couple of days. A holiday thats a celebration of community and togetherness. Many students like myself feel we cannot celebrate on campus right now given the current climate, so we have decided to go home. And i know some of your classmates will be meeting on campus with Speaker Mike Johnson with today, something you did not feel comfortable returning to campus to do. If you had a chance to talk to him, what would you tell him . I would explain what we have experienced on campus is a real issue. Jewish students feel under threat. Jewish students are being confronted and harassed, simply for being physically identifiable as jewish, and something needs to be done. Nbc news has spoken to jewish students inside the encampment, and one wanted us to share that this encampment is, quote, not antijewish by any means. There was a Passover Satyr there on monday. Passover seter there on monday. Other students who want to find common ground, respectful ground . I would love to find common ground, and im always personally open to discussing any facet of the israelipalestinian conflict or various responses to the demonstrations on campus the past week. With that being said, when the protesters are chanting, we love hamas, we are hamas, we dont want two states, we want all of it, when they are saying we say justice, you say how, Burn Tel Aviv to the ground. These arent calls for dialogue. These arent calls for conversation. These arent calls for deescalation, these are calls for violence against our family and friends. Certainly no one should have to go through this. I cant even imagine, you probably started your College Years with covid, youre ending it now with this. We thank you for taking the time to share your experience and we can only wish you well in the future. Thank you, jacob, much appreciated. Thank you so much. Campus unrest is not confined to columbia. Police are out in force on the campus of the University Of Texas At Austin, trying to maintain the peace at a large protest there. The Palestinian Solidarity Committee of austin directed students to walk out and occupy the south lawn of the campus. We are keeping our eye on that. In georgia, President Bidens invitation to speak at Morehouse College is sparking backlash between faculty and alumni. The Associated Press reports some of the alums were circulating an online letter that condemns the invitation to biden. Symone Sanders Townsend is cohost of the weekend. Matthew dowd is senior Msnbc Political Contributor and analyst who served as Chief Strategist for the bush cheney 2004 president ial campaign. What do you make of the backlash between President Biden and morehouse. There are two things that are important to understand. I talked to faculty at morehouse, and they pointed me to president thomass comments. He sent out a letter to faculty and staff prior to the Announcement Reconfirming that President Biden was in fact going to be the Commencement Speaker and noted that they wont be rescinding their invitation, and two, their invitation was extended prior to october 7th. They noted it was extended in september. Secondly, this letter has been organized by someone i also happen to know, steven green, a young morehouse alum, previously the youth and College Director of the naacp, and while he was the youth and College Director, he really pushed and did a lot of work in terms of civil disobedience. They did a lot more sitins while steven was under the leadership prior president cornell. I say all of that to say there is absolutely, yes, a subset of individuals, people, alums at morehouse, folks across the country i mean, were looking at the images right now at whats happening at ut austin, theyre going to protest. I also think it relates to this invitation by President Biden. I do not think it is everyone. But the fact that there is some consternation speaks to the fact that this is an International Issue that has absolutely permeated domestic politics. And matthew, if youre running the Biden Campaign or if youre in the biden white house, why put him on any College Campus right now . He cant run from it. Im sorry, that was for matthew. Cant run from it, right, math rue . Thats right. This is the time of year you give commencement addresses, and this is an incredibly important issue. I actually believe joe biden is exactly where the majority of the country is which is support israel in their attempts to get rid of terrorism, and simultaneously express outrage and support of the innocent palestinians who are getting killed in this and try to confront Benjamin Netanyahu in the midst of this. But if the student haves a right students have a right to protest and say what they believe, then the president of the United States has the right and i would say responsibility to go to College Campuses and enunciate and say what he believes his vision of both the world is and what he thinks is the way out of The Middle East in all of this. So, yes, i think he should go, and again, im going to emphasize, though we often sort of give the loudest voices to people on the most outskirts of this, where the president is on this issue even protested, hes been protested by proisraeli students by not doing enough. Hes been protested by propalestinian students by not protecting them enough. Where i think the president has come down on this is exactly where the majority of the country is. So, symone, joe biden has found himself in a political conundrum to say the least. There are a lot of republicans making this a major issue. We mentioned speaker johnson is scheduled to visit columbia this afternoon. And just yesterday, donald trump said the College Protests were joe bidens fault. Some republican senators are demanding the president call in the national guard. Let me play that. Eric adams wont send the nypd to protect these jewish students, if kathy hochul wont send the national guard, joe biden has a duty to protect these students from a nascent po grum on the campuses. Do you believe the president is where most americans are, and even at that, how does he communicate this in a way that is useful, is helpful . Youre not going to win over the far right republicans but there are a lot of people out there who are confused and troubled by this issue. Absolutely. People are confused and troubled, and i would argue it is the attacks against the jewish students, the jewish people in this country, and also the rising levels of islamophobia. So there are two things can and are definitely happening at the same time. I think where President Biden right now is currently is, in fact, where the majority of the American People are. I think the, maybe detriment isnt the right word, but i think what is belaboring the white house and the Biden Harris Campaign is the imagery and the rhetoric and the words that the American People heard in the immediate after math of the october 7th and they are opposing that with what Prime Minister netanyahu is doing right now. And they are not able to parse the two. The president has been, i think, extremely clear and frankly, when he has been heckled and protested, he has answered the he has engaged with many of the protesters in a way in which more people would see. He has said there does need to be a cease fire to bring the hostages home. More aid needs to go into gaza and if the israelis do not do their part there, they are going to meet dire consequences. He has had very tough language Behind Closed Doors with Prime Minister netanyahu. The problem is, the quiet diplomacy does not speak to what we are seeing in terms of the unrest in the streets. One could argue that perhaps the campaign should put the president in situations and scenarios where he could maybe speak to a broader audience on this topic specifically. There are folks that would say, we dont want to do that. What youre seeing in the images in the streets all over the country, on College Campuses and Office Buildings is this is an issue that is touching folks and the president and the Vice President , frankly, are doing real work on this particular issue to keep The Middle East from spiraling Out Of Control. But the people dont always see that work, and so if you do not do the work to meet them where they are, and talk to them about what you are doing and hear them out. You cannot expect them to understand. Symone Sanders Townsend and matthew dowd, thank you. The pictures we have been showing you are from the university of texas austin. This is a protest that was organized by the Palestinian Solidarity Committee directing students to walk out of class and occupy, they put it, the south lawn of uts campus. They say they are following the foot steps of their friends at columbia, rutgers, yale and countless others across the nation. They say they want to establish the Popular University for gaza. This protest follows days of tense encounters between students and police, protests at Ivy League Campuses as we have been telling you around the country. Ut austins Jewish Student Organization accused those folks protesting here of promoting a hateful agenda by coinciding it with passover. The university has assured us, they say there will be no tolerance for disruption or behaviors misaligned with university policy. Were going to keep our eyes on this protest at ut austin for you. And coming up, heated moments inside tennessees state house as protests accused republicans of having blood on their hands. The controversial new bill that would allow armed teachers in Public Schools. Plus reaction from a Democratic State representative who was there for those tense moments. Youre watching Chris Jansing reports only on msnbc. Reports only on msnbc ah, these bills are crazy. She has no idea shes sitting on a goldmine. Well she doesnt know that if she owns a Life Insurance policy of 100,000 or more she can sell all or part of it to coventry for cash. Even a term policy. Even a term policy . Even a term policy find out if youre sitting on a goldmine. Call Coventry Direct today at the number on your screen, or visit coventrydirect. Com. Imagine a future where plastic is not wasted. But instead remade over and over. Into the things that keep our food fresher, our families safer, and our planet cleaner. 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This bill, if signed by the governor would allow educators in tennessee Public Schools to carry concealed hand guns in certain circumstances. The School District would have to sign off on it, the School Principal and also Law Enforcement would actually have to give those teachers a permit, and that would require them to undergo 40 hours of School Policing Training and get a Background Check and a Mental Health evaluation. Lots of protesters descended on the capitol yesterday as those House Representatives were voting. Lets take a listen to what some of them had to say. Every person that dies at the hand of a gun in this state, its on their hands. It wasnt just emotion of we want to be loud. That was mothers in there crying. We want to be safe in our schools, and i promise that the generation of covenant, i promise that the generation of sandy hook, of parkland, will remember the terror of growing up experiencing lockdown drills. I have been doing active Shooter Drills since kindergarten. Im a junior in high school, and i still have them. I shouldnt have to be told to zigzag in the hallway because its harder to hit a moving target. It shouldnt have to be my teacher. As you can see, emotions running high there, and tennessee isnt the first state to pass legislation like this. 26 other states across the country have already passed similar legislation that allows educators to carry hand guns and, chris, you know, one of the interesting things your next guest might talk about, with this bill, its not even required that teachers if they do, in fact, get the permission and training to carry a handgun in school would have to notify the parents of the students in the classroom or the other teachers in their School Building and thats yet another thing that many of these protesters are extremely angry about, chris. Priya sridhar, thank you very much. I want to turn now to tennessee Democratic State representative justin jones. Youve called this bill morally insane. We just heard a few of the concerns that people who are against it have expressed, but when you look at this big picture, why were you so passionately against it . This bill is morally insane because a year after a Mass Shooting took the lives of three 9yearolds and three adults, this is the response, not to pass red flag laws, not to pass a ban on assault weapons, but to expand firearms and put more guns in the schools. When the teachers of tennessee are saying we want to be armed with supplies and books and fair pay, not with firearms. I mean, this bill is insanity. And it just goes to show that we are working with a republican supermajority in tennessee that puts the lives of our children beneath the Campaign Contributions of the gun industry. That is morally insane. That is shameful. That is unacceptable, and what we saw yesterday was people drug out of the gallery begging them, please dont do this, mothers and teachers and students and clergy crying saying, you have blood on your hands, and they were drug out of the House Chamber because the republican speaker did not want to hear the voices of the people of tennessee, the vast majority of whom republican, independent and democrat oppose this immoral, extreme bill. Let me ask you about some of the specific arguments that were made in favor of it. One is that if youre a big city, any city, you can opt out of it, nobody is being forced to do this. But for folks in rural areas where they dont have the option, for example, of a Fast Response by police or do not have security on campus, that is good option for them. What would you say . That is a false solution. What is one firearm going to do against an assault weapon. At the Covenant School in national, there were armed security. That did not stop this mass shooter who had a military grade weapon. In uvalde, you had Police Officers afraid to go up against assault weapons. One firearm is not going to stop a school shooter. What its going to do is end up in a situation with a student finding an unsecured firearm in a desk or in a bag and harming themselves or people in that classroom. I mean, you know, what is going to end up is our schools are going to turn into fire fights between shooters. This is insanity. Its not going to make anyone safer. Its not going to increase School Safety. In fact, its a false solution and a dangerous solution to a very real problem in which tennessee, Gunshot Wounds are the number one cause of death of children right now. That is insane that this is the number one cause of death of children, yet theyre doing nothing to address that issue. The bill does have a confidentiality clause, which means parents would not know whether anyone at their Childs School was armed or whether their childs teacher has a gun in the classroom. Now, the reason the bill senate sponsor says is that it adds the element of surprise for the potential shooter. What do you say to that . I mean, this is how outrageous my state is here in tennessee. We just pass laws saying we dont Trust Teachers to pick the books in their classroom, to Censure Books about black history, yet were going to trust the idea of secretly keeping the firearm, without the consent and knowledge of parents who should know and be able to opt their child out of sitting in a classroom with an armed teacher. That is what is ridiculous and outrageous, ban books, but teachers can bring guns and dont have to tell parents. Thats the problem with the bill. Tennessee State Representative justin jones on a very important issue. Thank you for taking the time to talk with us. 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Two cases of extraordinary significance tomorrow, Donald Trumps criminal trial will resume in new york while in the nations capital, the Supreme Court will hear arguments over whether trump is immune from prosecution. It will be a seminole moment. As the Wall Street Journal puts it, trump shaped the Supreme Court by appointing three of the current justices, now he wants his victory. With me now, temidayo agandawilliams, and defense attorney caroline polisi. Im interested to see how this plays out. The Supreme Court took this case. The way they took it and the order they issued is interesting. The question theyre deciding is if so and to what extent a former president enjoys criminal liability for official acts he performs while in office. The jurisprudence that trumps argument arrives from is the 1982 case, nixon versus fitzgerald, the Supreme Court did hold there was civil liability for president s performing duties in the outer perimeter of official duties. I think the issue is going to come down to how you define that. I do think the Supreme Court is going in the direction of holding that there is some criminal immunity to president s in their job. The question is what constitutes official acts. Well, temidayo, trump has been making the argument anything he did around january 6th he did as official acts of the president trying to preserve the integrity of the election. Will they buy that . I dont know whether they will buy it. Its simply not true. And i think the question for the court is going to be even if they find some level of immunity, what does that mean . Jack smith in his argument is preparing for that possibility. First he says, court, theres no absolute immunity, thats the initial argument. Even if you find theres some immunity, some smaller sub sect, there are acts he took here not as President Trump but as candidate trump, and you have this other set of actions, regardless of what you find about immunity, these actions are not covered. When hes call asking trying to find votes, hes not doing that because hes worried about the Election System as a president , hes not worried about the Election System and preserving its quality, hes doing that because he wants to be a president for a second term. Hes doing that because hes furthering his personal interests of the trump campaign. I think the court here, if this was any other court, this would be a losing argument. What does a court do and when does it do it. Delay is a big point. Let me remind you guys an exchange from the d. C. Court of appeals in january that a lot of people remember. Here it is. Could a president who ordered seal team 6 to assassinate a political rival who was not impeached, could he be subject to criminal prosecution . If he were impeached and convicted first. So your answer is no . My answer is qualified yes. Youre smiling. But do you think this will come up tomorrow . Absolutely. This is the heart of the issue. In any Supreme Court case, youre going to talk about issues that set a precedent. The Supreme Court doesnt decide specific cases. They decide questions of law. Here its a Public Policy argument. You have dueling parades of horribles. On jack smiths side saying if theres immunity from prosecution, president s can commit crimes in office. On trumps side, we dont want to stymie political action, we dont want president s to feel criminal prosecution in the heart of war when they want to hit the red button, and dont want to feel the weight of that looming ahead of them. We always talk in hypotheticals, thats what you do, you try to push your theories to the limit, and this one just showed the absurdity of the argument that trumps team was trying to make. And the potential impact on donald trump is obvious, but i think that Wall Street Journal oped also points out that there are few cases that have stakes so high for the institution of the Supreme Court itself, and even if trump loses the case, the court already has boosted his legal strategy of delaying the trial, allowing him to campaign and recapture the white house before proceedings can begin. This is something that chief Justice Roberts is said to have a lot of concern about, right . The politicalization or the perception of the politicalization of the Supreme Court. How does all of that play into tomorrow and what were going to be watching . You know, whats essentially to the power of the court is that we respect its decisions because we look at it, and we think that january represents the role of the American People and jurisprudence. When the court becomes politicized all of that goes away. Thats incredibly dangerous. This case here is about the case of law. We have all seen, especially as lawyers, the court is willing in other areas of the law to take aggressive, bold action whether thats reproductive rights or elsewhere. For the court here, i think it would be surprising if the court ill say this, i think if the court took actions again as it has in other areas as i just mentioned, its only going to further undermine our faith this court is not political, something dangerous. Thank you both so much. It is going to be a very interesting day tomorrow. Be sure to tune in for our special coverage of the Supreme Courts oral arguments on president ial immunity. It all begins 10 00 a. M. Eastern right here on msnbc. 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This is one of the latest schools to start a solidarity encampment protest today. The group calls itself usc divest from death coalition. There are students, faculty members, local residents who say our choice of occupation draws attention to the complicity of usc in the israeli occupation. The group said it is joining a nationwide call by students from universities to disclose their finances, quote, divest from israeli violence, and defend palestinians. Among the other campuses with propalestinian protests like this one at usc, brown, university of michigan, mit, cal state polytechnic, and then of course we have been following whats happening at the University Of Texas At Austin where our affiliate reporter, Ryan Chandler from kxan reported moments ago from those protests. Take a listen. So the situation here is very fluid, so i apologize, bear with me, but it has gotten exponentially more Out Of Control and violent since the protests started. About noon today about 200 students got together for a peaceful protest in the center of campus here, and they were met with a heavy and Immediate Police presence from these mounted dps troopers to riot troopers and uts own police, trying to disburse this after about 30 minutes. Students we have talked to say they were not trying to cause any harm or disruption, and they dont believe that they should have been disbursed. Officers say that this was up to the jurisdiction of the university to determine when and where people can protest, and they believe that it was going to be a distraction to the students to have this. Take a listen. That was Ryan Chandler reporting from the University Of Texas At Austin. In the meantime, hamas has just released new video of an american israeli hostage, her hersh, you may remember him. His left arm was severely wounded that day. Until the video, which was shared by hamas military wing, the brigades, he gives a heartbreaking message to his family saying, quote, i love you so much and miss you so much, and i think of you every day that im here. We should note, nbc news does not know when this video was made or whether or not he is even still alive. But i want to bring in nbcs raf sanchez. What more can you tell us . Todays video is the first glimpse weve had of 23yearold americanisraeli hostage, Hersh Goldberg po lan. The fact that he survived october 7th is borderline miraculous. That video shows him being loaded into the back of a pickup truck, and you can see his left arm is very very badly damaged from a hamas grenade. Todays video, you can see his left hand is gone, but he does appear to generally be in reasonable health. In this video, he expresses his love for his parents, his family. He says, he knows they are doing everything they can to set him free. His parents have been campaigning tirelessly here in israel, also in the United States. His mother rachel has become in some ways the face of the familys of these hostages, and tonight his parents are releasing a Video Statement of their own. They are calling on israel and hamas to reach a Cease Fire Agreement that would free the hostages and they are urging their son to stay strong. Take a listen. Hersh, if you can hear this, we heard your voice today for the first time in 201 days, and if you can hear us, i am telling you, we are telling you, we love you. Stay strong. Survive. Now, he is one of five americans believed to still be alive inside of gaza. Israel says there are 133 hostages in total. 36 of them have been confirmed dead but the actual number may be higher still. These Marathon Cease Fire negotiations have been continuing in cairo but they appear seriously deadlocked at this point over a number of issues. One is the question of how many hostages are still alive. Two, hamas says that any cease fire has to be permanent, it has to end the war. Israel says that the fighting will continue on The Other Side of a cease fire, and will continue until hamas is defeated and the two side have very strong disagreements over whether Palestinian Civilians will be allowed to return to their homes in northern gaza. We have heard consistently from seeing the Hostage Videos is one hand, agony, in another some sense of relief to see their loved ones alive, and it will bring fresh urgency about getting a deal to getting the hostages out. Back to you. Thank you. Hershs parents have been tireless advocates for him, for the other hostages, our thoughts are obviously with them and continue to hope for their release soon. Thats going to do it for us this hour. Make sure to join us for Chris Jansing reports reports every weekday, 1 to 3 00 p. M. Eastern here on nbc. Our coverage continues with Katy Tur Reports right after this short break. 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