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The Maca Movement becoming less united and more toxic despite meeting more voters to win, and the growing coalition to defend the squad against the pro israel lobby in washington. Lets do it. The house gop pushed to impeach item has collapsed into an embarrassing failure after more than a year of empty promises and neverending duds. They have come up with nothing. Republicans know it and the democrats know it, and the white house certainly knows it. In a letter sent to mike johnson this week, white House Counsel Edward Siskel wrote it is time to move on, mr. Speaker, the impeachment is over. There is too much important work to be done for the American People to continue wasting time on this charade. Even House Republicans are admitting that they have hit a dead end. Ken buck decided to leave congress this week in part because we have taken impeachment and we have made it a social media issue as opposed to a constitutional concept. Congressman troy neals, a staunch biden critic has been similarly browned on the gops chances telling fox i do not think we have the will to impeach joe biden. The letter also pointed to the criminal indictment of the gops star witness Alexander Smirnov who was accused of lying to the fbi about bribes he said the bidens took. Despite the white house telling House Republicans to put up or shut up, lets be real, they are unlikely to do so. James, is present. With his plan b. This includes legislative reforms like tighter Financial Disclosure and foreign lobbying guardrails, Criminal Referrals for hunter biden and others to the geo j, a potential lawsuit for officials testimony and calls from some within their own conference to just keep investigating. , told the outlet that his number one priority has always been not impeachment, but to pass Influence Peddling legislation. Really . Because comber was singing a different tune last year when he credited his investigations are bidens poor poll numbers. That is what his Impeachment Push has always been about, getting revenge for trumps legitimate impeachments and of course trying to hurt joe biden. Lets say we take him at his word about tackling Influence Peddling. I say go for it because as my Colleague Brown writes any legislation that republicans might draft in an attempt to embarrass biden would be guaranteed to hurt donald trump. Republicans know this, so brown argues democrats should do it themselves. Of course they point out the president has not done anything wrong, but they can say they share the concerns about the need to strengthen the ethical guardrails surrounding the white house. After all, trump reportedly took in at least 7. 8 million from foreign entities while in and we know people in his orbit have been accused of profiting by acting as undisclosed foreign lobbyists. Of course, there is Jared Kushner who continues to develop overseas deals as his fatherinlaw runs for re election. It is hard to say where exactly House Republicans will take this crusade next, but one thing is very clear, they are not going to save themselves from further embarrassment and democrats may soon be thanking james, or an unintentionally brilliant idea. We have an allstar panel to break this down for us. Joining me now is sykes and mills and brian tyler , contributor and host of the no live with brian tyler Podcast Beer Great to have you with us. Charlie, i will start with you. Given everything we have outlined, where do republicans go from here . Are they to foreign to give up on this fantasy idea of impeaching joe biden . They had Things Writing them, the psychological need to come up with some way to rationalize what is happening with donald trump you cant do this in isolation. Donald trump is one scandal after another, so psychologically they need to make the what about is in case and this is also a political dynamic. Trump is going to demand a move ahead. There is no way they can split say we do not have anything on joe biden, sorry. You are just going to have to go by yourself. Between the need to find a way to rationalize supporting donald trump by saying yes but look at the bidens and Donald Trumps medical necessity of throwing up all of this smoke and dust to say everybody is a crook, i dont see how they back out of this even though, as you point out they have fallen flat on their face. Your reaction to what we are seeing from the white house. Is the smart them to call up mike johnson and go on the offense by calling them out for the nothing burger they are chasing after . I think it is always smart for them to call out the ridiculousness, just to affirm this is a nothing burger, to your point. The republicans try and they try and they try to say it is the democrats doing something crazy and corrupt thinking that americans are not actually going to be looking at what they are doing, including donald trump. It is important that we remind people over and over that that is exactly what this is, it is a distracting tactic with absolutely no merit so i do believe that it is wise for the president , certainly, but for everyone, all of us in the media to constantly remind people that there is nothing here. They found absolutely zero evidence of wrongdoing, and so this is going to go nowhere in the more we talk about that, i think it helps to cut into the circus they are creating where they are just trying to rile people up distract them and create some crazy Reality Show Drama Thinking People would be far more entertained and looking the other way while trump continues to rob us blind. Was this the natural and for this . You have, boasting about how this investigation helped him down bidens numbers, there is no evidence to actually support that, but where else could this possibly be going for comber and his cohorts . To aishas point, i think they hoped all along this would amount to something more significant. They have relied on treating their own supporters kind of as ignorant as they hoped they would be, but the American People are smarter than that. We have all been able to recognize that this is a Well Trod Path for republicans. You brought up troy nehls in the earlier part of this segment. He was asked early on in this Impeachment Inquiry Effort with the point of this was, like what basis there was for this and his response was donald trump 2024, baby. That is what he said. The whole point of this was always to help donald trump. They just came out and said it. This is not the first time they have done it. If you look a decade ago, Kevin Mccarthy did the same thing with the Benghazi Select Committee where he said the point of this was to hurt hillary clinton, so they have tried this again and again and may have worked in the past, but it is clearly not working now. There are some republicans gung on this impeachment. Let me show you what great stoop set the fox. I would love to be able to vote on the impeachment of joe biden for the border and the atrocities that have been there a personal day and in violating federal law, but also all of these federal crimes the whole family has committed that we now have evidence of. I am not sure he understands what impeachment is, but it seems like the order is the goalpost for him and his colleagues. It is performative. This is something they have been pushed to buy trump. He understands he is the twice impeached president , if he can have biden impeached, if everybody is impeached, nobody is impeached. If everybody is corrupt, that becomes a wash and that is the drive. How do you bring attention to some other issue that has nothing to do with high crimes and misdemeanors . The problem is they dont have the votes. I would like to go back to something you said earlier, this idea of fair play. This is really, i mean, i think we need to step back. Republicans supporting trump are now concerned about conflicts of interest. They are concerned about ethics. Lets talk about that. Lets talk about what trump did in the white house, lets talk about the others. It is interesting that this is hanging out there, and part of me is thinking we have gotten so normalized to the graft of the trump years that we kind of assume that people understand that. I dont think they do and i think that if republicans do want to spend valuable congressional time talking about the lets do that. Lets have a gestation that would target the kinds of things that donald trump did in the white house that his family continues to do and he is likely to do if he gets back. When it comes to Influence Peddling, you are not a member of Congress Unless you have had Influence Peddling and progressives have wanted to get special money out of politics. Do you see that getting momentum or is this purely direct checks and performance . The way to answer that question is to look at what happened at the border. Republicans have spent years, decades wailing about the border and so joe biden came in proved himself a willful or participant and he said you want a border deal, lets do a border deal, get conservative republicans to negotiate the thing, and when James Lankford did that and handed a border deal that did not have any comprehensive immigration reform, which had always been the poison pill as far as republicans were concerned, still republicans balked. In terms of taking them at their word and believing them when they say they want these changes, i think their reaction to the portable explains it all. What do you think in terms of whether or not this has any substance to it or is it purely performative at this point i republicans . We know all they are is performative. There has not been one real piece of legislation to solve problems for American People that they have been eager to move, to discuss, to debate, to hear comment on and then to actually try to pass through congress. At the end of the day, the are not really interested in legislating in a way that benefits the nation. That is not what they are doing, they are using their wills in congress right now to create, to open up political opportunity on the ground for elections peer that is why we are in this nonsensical conversation over and over about trying to persecute, prosecute biden and impeach him for something that just is not true, like the facts are clear. They are full of lies and deceit and yet it doesnt matter because at the end of the day, they dont want to pass any type of legislation that is meaningful, they just want to use this as political all. They are not actually getting anything done when it comes to with the country needs. Everyone stick around. We have got more to discuss. We will talk about the new fault lines emerging in the Republican Coalition thanks to donald trump. Unity is key and members say they feel disappointed and downright bored. Like carpal tunnel syndrome, shortness of breath, and Irregular Heartbeat could mean something more serious, called attrcm a rare, underdiagnosed disease that worsens over time. Sound like you . Call your cardiologist and ask about attrcm. man excuse me, would you mind taking a picture of us . tony oh, no problem. man thanks. You . tony yes, problem. You need verizon. Get the new iphone 15 pro with tons of storage. 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Authoritarians romanticize order imagining a society where everyone falls in line without parole. In the real world, it is hard to communicate, much less organize without some tolerance for disagreement. When authoritarians get together, it is a clash of egos of people who all think everyone else should unquestioningly obey them. It is not just that they fight, they have no capacity to work through disagreements. Skills like listening, appetizing, or compromising run counter to the maga mindset. We have charlie and aisha and brian. So what do you make of this disconnect between maga and i guess i will say Congressional Republicans . Will the Disarray Lead to doom in november . It certainly could. This is what you get when you have a party that does not have any coherent ideology. They have nothing that binds them together except loyalty to trump, so we have a lot of egos who are performative, and do not see any reason to work with one another, so it is interesting that you have narratives, this is a party fully controlled by donald trump and it is also at war with itself because you have so many egos and so little intellectual or principled coherence behind this party. Speaker johnson clearly has an Issue Wrangling has caucus, hardly a leader. The movement clearly does not care about attracting nontrump republicans. Where does this go next . I think ultimately this was their plan all along. The point of what todays report party is doing is just to break government and point to the government that they have broken as evidence that government cant work so then they would tell the voters that you have to elect small government republicans because clearly the government cant work, we are the only ones that want to deal with a government that should be shrunk to as small as possible. That is what we are seeing, this is their plan in action, and as a minority party, that could work, but in the majority we are seeing no legislation, even their own priorities fall by the wayside, i it is probably a boring situation for them. How does Biden Campaign leverage this unity among republicans, doesnt even matter for them . Perhaps it is an opportunity to pull some independence or people who are really tired of that reality show, name calling, trash talking, Deceit Celebrity Culture that is based on something sinister as opposed to real values and passion for supporting people. Perhaps there is an opportunity for them to pull those folks off because this is what is interesting about the way the party is combusting. You used to be able to point to the conservatives and point to the party and say they are in lockstep. That is what made them powerful. Now they are not, so they are fracturing themselves and it is an operative entity to their voters off. You have folks like gates and other members of the House Freedom caucus campaigning against colleagues who are facing primary challenges despite speaker johnsons please not to do so. Is this another sign of that chaos in the caucus that they are willing to primary each other in this way . Absolutely. This is scorpions in the back. Watching them go at each other and they are driving out many of the grownups in the caucus who are just retiring. Theyre saying i dont want to spend another two years sitting next to Marjorie Taylor greene and matt gates, but you do see this kind of division and then there is trump who sets the tone who spent the weekend just lashing out at other republicans, including going after ron desantis again, going after nikki haley and her supporters. He has no interest in unifying the party, so when they watch donald trump lashing out at other republicans, they take the queue. Why should they care about unity . When he think of people like buck calling it quits, exiting from the house this week, what do you make of the rush of Congress Members fleeing before the end of their term . I think it is a mixed bag because of course it is good to have people willing to stand up even to the mildest amount of sanity here in terms of what he did by trying to play his hand so that probert would not be able to immediately take over his seat. The sad part is that for everybody who comes out and speaks out against his party or their unwillingness to actually do the work of governing, for every liz cheney or adam kinsinger, they are going to speak out, they are going to be a thorn in their parties aside and then they will be replaced by somebody whos going to tow the party line. That is the bad part is we can apply these people if they are willing to speak out, but at the end of the day, the Republican Party will become more and more homogenous and that will be worse for democracy and not better. It seems like you wanted to add something . He is right about this. Part of the problem is that if in fact you have the reasonable grownups, who is going to take their place, what is happening to the gop, and it is becoming more maga, it is attracting people who do things and it is a route to more Social Media Hits and maybe some spots on fox news rather than actually governing. So you think about what this party is going to look like five years from now, 10 years from now, 20 years from now, we will still be feeling the effects. Some have said the biden impeachment effort is bad party at large, but good for maga members. What does it say about a Republican Party when being so toxic actually works better than just letting or providing hope or solutions . It demonstrates how they lie and cheat and jerryrigged in order to create districts designed to be at the chambers for all of the foolishness they spout. At the end of the day, the Maga Movement is a small minority of the overall population of america. We have a democracy that is broken where the majority of people in this country, no matter what parties support abortion rights, the majority of people want some kind of path to citizenship. The majority of people care about those bt rights, the majority of people are not racist, and yet we still have a jerryrigged government where all these folks can get elected because they are able to carve out districts where they maintain a majority and are able to govern even though they are in the minority in terms of the sentiments of the people. That is the real problem that we need to be dealing with. They gain a george santos. We will see how that goes. Thank you to the three of you, we appreciate your insights as always. A coalition of progressive groups plan to take on a powerful pro israel lobbying group. And 11 has been on the Receiving End of spending. We are going to ask him, next. Your doc l t away if you have symptoms of this infection, an allergic reaction, or ketoacidosis. Farxiga man excuse me, would you mind taking a picture of us . An allergic reaction, or ketoacidosis. tony oh, no problem. man thanks. tony yes, problem. You need verizon. 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On monday, over 20 progressive organizations came together to launch the rejection a pack coalition, a sevenfigure electoral depends campaign aimed to come to the pro israel groups efforts to primary democratic lawmakers who have been critical of israels assault on gaza. Since its founding in the 1950s, the American Israel Public Affairs committee mostly stayed out of the fray during campaigns, instead centering efforts on shoring up partisan support for the country and congress. However, in recent years, that has changed. The election war chest financed by major donors including several republican billionaires and key gop funders has started opposing expensive consequences for lawmakers who express criticism of the unwavering support for israel. In 2022, aipac waded into the democratic primary field for the first time, pouring millions into a campaign against Chicken Congressman and 11, a former vocal critic of israel. Aipac and its allies spent over 30 million in the midterms. That is more than the other 80 packs active in the Election Cycle combined. This time around they are more than tripling the number expected to drop 100 billion to help oust democratic candidate who it views as insufficiently pro israel. From a congressman andy leavitt of michigan joins me now. It is great to see you. Thank you for coming back on this show. We know that polling shows a majority of democratic voters are more aligned with views of progressive lawmakers on israel. They support calls of a permanent ceasefire, some conditioning weapons aid to israel for its compliance with International Humanitarian law and u. S. Law and explain how lobbyists throw a wrench in lawmakers legislating as their constituents demanded. There is a disconnect here between what the voters want and what the lobbyists want. A huge disconnect. I mean, i will give you an example. I wrote a bill called the Two State Solution Act after the last wharton gaza which was tiny compared to this one, and it was really not a radical bill. I called on israeli leaders to do what they need to do to get towards a solution, which has been official u. S. Policy of every republican president except trump for decades. This was too much for aipac, and here is the thing, before it was even election time, i had colleagues come up to me on the floor and say i read your bill and it is great when your colleagues actually read your bill. I was so excited, like that is fantastic. They seemed serious. It is smart, it is great policy, and i will never sign on as a cosponsor. And they did not have to say anything more, it was because they are afraid of aipac because they would come after them. This is distorting. What aipac wants is not even good for the future of people in israel. The only way to have a secure and peaceful homeland for my people, the jewish people is to realize the human rights of the Palestinian People alongside us. It is what judaism and other religions require, that we love the stranger. We treat them as we want to be treated, and until u. S. Policy can actually move towards demanding that we stop this carnage, that we stop providing these Offensive Weapons, this is not about the iron dome. Defensive weapons are fine, but as providing 2000 pound bombs that are than decimating neighborhoods in gaza of innocent people, it is unacceptable, and the American People need to stand up and say so. That is what they think. Let me ask you about the strategy. The strategy of this coalition is to get Democratic Candidates to sign a pledge to reject money from aipac. Many of the financial backers of the group are republican donors, so why are so Many Democrats reluctant to turn down this money from aipac that is coming from republican donors with these sinister motivations, to undermine immigrants in the primaries and those that have already built a foothold in congress. First, it may put a finer point on this. This is astounding. Nine of the 10 largest donors to the super pack are republican Billionaire Donors to trump. We are talking about the founder of whats up, bernie marcus, paul singer Emma Jonathan jacobson, these are huge republican donors. Why should we let them determine who wins a democratic primary . I think what is happening is look at how fast things are changing, look at this is a war that is hard for all of us to accept. October 7th was hard for us to accept. This war, now, just for example, children killed in gaza, 12,500 in five months. Less than 3000 children were killed in all wars in the world in 2020 to. People are having a hard time accepting the what you saw with Chuck Schumer is things are beginning to change. So this is great. Basically a group of liberal democrats, progressive groups of different kinds are coming together to say this is toxic. To let this dark money come in and try to dictate who wins the democratic primaries, it is unhealthy for the democratic party, it is unhealthy for our democracy, and it is not helpful to regular palestinian and israeli people who we need to encourage you to come together and make peace. You brought up senator schumers comments and i wanted to ask you about them, how significant are they . Do you see this as a watershed moment and how concerned should the white house be that schumer went ahead and made the statement and now it puts the ball in bidens court to follow suit when it comes to changing course and is war . 100,000 voters in michigan have put the ball in the president s court and voters in minnesota and washington and hawaii and other states. We want our president to stand up and read in the way i know he can, to shift the discussion to a major Diplomatic Initiative for peace. Stop the carnage, the destruction and stop providing Offensive Weapons that are killing people. Bring Me Austin Adams and israelis together to let them come up with what they want in terms of the together peacefully. 70 of democrats, 60 of independents, the majority of all americans support a cease fire, and regular palestinians and israelis, they just want to live in peace. They want this carnage over. So we have to support them in making that happen. Andy of michigan, it is a pleasure. 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Nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. Off the comcast business van. Look out where did the ball go . Oh, wait there it is. Back in to play and thats in what an impossible shot more children have been killed in five months of israels Wharton Gaza Than in four years of all wars Around The World. That is according to figures released by the u. N. And gazas help industry. To date, more than 12,000 children have been killed since october 7th with many thousands still missing in the rubble. Children are not only being killed by the bombs, but also by starvation and dehydration. The Health Ministry reports at least 21 palestinian children have died of starvation. Children bearing the brunt of israels occupation in gaza is nothing new. The forthcoming report by the occupied house, Francesca Albanese details decades of oppression under israeli occupation. I have a chance to speak with ventresca a while ago. Lets talk about the Human Figures that were released this week. More children have been killed and five months of israels Wharton Gaza Fan in four years of wars Around The World combined, which is a staggering statistic. Talk us through the significance of the numbers. I dont know what can i say more than the figure itself. 13,000 children killed in five months. There is no sign it was assault, military assault. There is no indication that israel is going to seize its Military Operations and there is no pressure, no pressure whatsoever. It is the only way to stop the carnage, children and adults. The figures we have are primarily children who have been killed by fire and bombs, but we also have a Staggering Number of children who are dying because of malnutrition, starvation and waste. And this is something that is not just preventable, this is a human made catastrophe, which has a specific name in international law, given the intent of upholding these Military Operations, which is the full destruction of gaza. Your report from october is also significant because it talks about how palestinian children were suffering long before the war started on october 7. Can you explain to viewers how what we are seeing now is actually a decades long combination of oppression . Take us through some of the top takeaways from your report. I can tell you i am just about to present my fourth report to the united nations. Two years of work. I have added an analysis, a picture of frustration and annihilation of the termination of the past and people under Israeli Military operation, and the right of termination is worth reminding everyone it is the basic right of the people to exist as a people, and in each report i could see the indications of an intent to inoculate the people. This is something that i spelled out in my last report. I can say that what we have seen over time is a tragedy foretold. We have Palestinian Territories and International Palestinian and israeli organizations that have point about what we are seeing today, this tragedy unfold. Elimination and manipulation of the Palestinian People, but even in the face of 13,000 children killed with the prospect of more children dying out of starvation, it doesnt stop what israel is doing. What else . I will get to that. I wanted to get your thoughts about the future generations and the numbers. This will have a Lasting Impact for many many decades to come. Unicef estimates that at least 17,000 children are unaccompanied or separated from families. Even if a ceasefire were to be reached today, as you just said, but that and lifelong trauma of these kids will have to enter is also staggering and will undoubtedly curb the development of the Palestinian People for generations to come. For sure. We shall remember that even before october, gaza had the highest population, young population affected by depression like symptoms, so we were already talking of a highly traumatized population, half of whom is made of children. With all the horror that has befallen the gaza strip with has traumatized all telecine and and the rise of israel and wherever they are, of course the trauma is going to reverberate across generations, and i cannot imagine how that palestinians will recover from the high level of trauma they have endured. What they have seen in terms of destruction, humiliation, death, and what it means, this destruction, the fact they will not be able to resume life even if a ceasefire what is agreed upon today because gaza is destroyed. When you look at everything that has happened since october 720 take into account the statements made by israeli officials, military officials, politicians, when you assess and report on what has happened inside of gaza in terms of death and destruction, do you believe what is happening inside gaza constitutes a genocide . I do. I am not the only one. It is not just me. There are over 30 of us who have learned of the risk of genocide since midoctober, and then the serious risk of genocide and then we have genocide unfolding since the beginning of november, and in my work that i will present next week, i have articulated how i see it based on context, facts and legal analysis, i see this genocide has occurred against the people in gaza. We will wait to see that report when it comes out. Thank you so much. I greatly appreciate your insights this evening. Thank you. Next up, putin is predicted to win. He gets six more years in power. What does that mean for the world . World . 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