Reelected. Ill get reaction from quintin folk, president for the Biden Harris Campaign. And Steve Phillips standard of democracy. And inside the fight to enshrine abortion laws. And breaking with the boss. Former Vice President mike pence on january 6th and his decision not to endorse donald trump. The fact that the president continues to insist that i had the right to overturn the election that day is a fundamental difference. But i want to be clear that, you know, ive forgiven the president in my heart for what happened that day. Im jonathan capehart, this is The Sunday Show. Its official, biden versus trump. And what is shaping up to be the first president ial general election rematch in nearly 70 years. Sure it feels like deja vu all over again. But this 2024 version is all together different. Biden seeks reelection with a strong record to stand on and defend. A record that includes a booming economy despite all those hair on fire prediction that the u. S. Would slip into recession. Unemployment is just 3. 9 . For the last two years folks. In february job growth was more than predicted. The Biden Administration has also canceled millions in student loans. The fund raising, well, thats another story. Today the Bidenharris Campaign announced it raised more than 63 million in february. Not only that, with the campaign also reported that it has a record 155 million cash on hand. Like, cash they can spend right now. Now, lets turn our weary gaze to the twice impeached disgraced former president donald trump. Since 2020, trump has been found liable for Sexual Assault and fraud. Plus he has 80 indictments and has millions in legal penalties. Trump continues to push a violent vision for america. He continues to promote the big lie. Now bolstered by his hand picked and newly installed Leadership Team which includes his daughterinlaw laura trump. The campaign arm is establishing a new so called Integrity Unit Led by maga Election Denier cristina bobb. Trump started his speech by saluting the insurrectionist that were convicted for january 6th. Once again, trump called them quote, hostages. Then he resorted to an all too familiar play book. Making racist remarks about migrants, eluding to Political Violence and casting doubt on our electoral process. If i had prisons that were teaming with ms13 and all sorts of people that theyve got to take care of for the next 50 years right. Young people who are in jail for years, if you call them people. I dont know if you call them people. In some cases theyre not people in my opinion. Were going to put a 100 tariff on every single car that comes across the line and youre not going to be able to sell those. If i get elected. If i dont get elected its going to be a blood bath for the whole. Thats going to be the least of it. Its going to be a blood bath for the country. If this election, if this election isnt one, im not sure that you will ever have another election in this country. Does that make sense . I dont think youre going to have another election in this country. I have two great guests to discuss all of this. Campaign manager for the biden campaign, and Steve Phillips author of how we win the civil war and founder of democracy in color. But let me start with You Quinn Quinton thank you very much for coming on The Sunday Show. Trumps team says trumps word of blood bath was taken out of context. Was he . No. This is who trump is. We saw him call his supporters on january 6th. This is right out of the play book. Trump is weak and deeply insecure of this election and hes only in it for himself. Trump is saying the quiet part outloud. The people who are saying his comments were taken out of context havent said anything about all the other things that trump has done. All the other times hes incited Political Violence so no it wasnt taken out of context at all. This is who donald trump is and America Needs to stand up and listen to him. On that point, trump says violent stuff on this all the time. Why did the Biden Harris Campaign thought they should call him out this time. They call him out all the time. Hes trying to get people to stand up and be violent in this country and this is not who we are in this country. President biden and Vice President harris got to work trying to quell this. Trying to bring americans together. Trump is dividing this country. Hes failing to unite his own supporters and its showing. Were going to continue to call trump out on his extreme the positions and especially when hes cozying up to dictators and being exactly who hes telling americans he is. They have an Election Integrity university that will focus on legal challenges that could resort to restriction to the ballot. How does a Campaign Plan to combat that . Look, our campaign has been focused on making sure were doing everything we can to make sure people across this country have the right to vote. That were protecting it. That theyre not getting misinformation about their voting. Its no surprise that trump takes over the rnc and immediately sets up an election of Integrity Division that is with a selfproclaimed Election Denier in conspiracy theorist. So were going to hold our head up and make sure that people vote. This is about the uncommitted votes that were cast after the devastation in gaza. More than 100 million in michigan voted uncommitted. In illinois, palestinian and muslim groups are pushing for a similar vote in their states primary on tuesday. What is the campaign doing to heal that rift . Its a significant rift. Were going to continue to talk to these individuals. What im saying about those voting uncommitted is that President Biden wants the same thing they to which is long and lasting peace in the middle east. Both in israel and gaza. Hes continuing to put in the work to get to that point. A lot of this work is done behind the scenes its not up front. President biden is trying to Unite America and also solve this issue. We understand that it is a deeply personal issue for a lot of people. The president is going to continued to outreach. Our campaign is going to continue to do outreach to these voters to make sure they have a place in this campaign. Speaking of outreach, officials met with palestinian leaders in chicago. More than 3,000 of those leaders refused to attend the meeting because of the war. Does the president himself plan to meet with these leaders . President biden is willing to sit down with anybody. Anybody thats willing to express their concerns. He understands these issues and hes working to resolve it. Thats the difference between he and donald trump when it comes to this. President biden wants peace in the region. Donald trump is calling far muslim ban and donald trump doesnt have the tact, skill, or ability to bring this resolution to the close. I cant have you here without asking you about this, all this ink thats been spilled about, about the fact that President Biden is losing black support. Losing support among black americans, do you believe . You guys do internal polling . Are you losing black folks . What i would say is no were not but we have to continue to make sure were reaching out to these voters. Its been the number one thing on our mind. We went in to talk to these communities both black and hispanic communities to make sure they know we dont take them as monolithic. We have to continue to do the work and talk to these voters about what President Biden and Kamala Harris have done for their lives. And point out that donald trump does not care about them, hes only in it for himself. Principal Deputy Campaign manager for the Biden Harris Campaign did i get the title right. Yes you did. Quinton, thank you very much for come coming on the show. And joining me now is, the author of how we win the civil war. Are you concerned about whats coming out of michigan . I am concerned. Its important to recognize both of my books is that there is a new majority majority. The overwhelmingly majority of people. If the majority of people turn out to the polls then biden will win. And should win rather handedly. There was a drop of enthusiasm, there was Party Splitting and thats how trump snuck through in michigan and wisconsin. Thats a concern that washington needs to prioritize and needs to really take strong steps and send a clear signal that we are championing peace in that region. Let me ask you the same question i just asked quinton folks. All these stories were seeing suggesting the president , President Biden is losing black support. Youre in it, are those stories remotely true . Theyre not. What we really have a situation in the National Politics and media really is emperor has no clothes situation with frankly the New York Times and nate holmes polls. They continue to show, were losing all this black support. Africanamericans at 66 for biden. The average historically is 88 . Every single president ial election since 1976 has been 88 black support. Biden got 87 . And even in the ohio abortion measure in november there was like 83 of africanamericans supporting that measure. How is that poll showing that theres been this drop off and so it really is a case of this quite possible that the New York Times and nate cohen and his polling does not know how to poll people of color and they lack expertise in that realm. Why democrats are hopeful in North Carolina and nervous in georgia. It points out that democrats are pessimistic in georgia because of the marquee race in 2020. You have said you dont think the party is investing enough in georgia, what else should they be doing . Thats what joe biden said on election night. Because he did not expect to actually win. His campaign did not expect to actually win. But stacy abrams did. She had done the work a decade ago when she told me theres a million unregistered voters in georgia. Im going to register them to work. There needs to be a thousand staffed people on the ground in every single county in georgia. Letting people know about the election. Ive heard from top people the Democratic People and top donors that theyre not prioritizing georgia. How many elections does rafael warnack need to win before we believe in the priority of georgia. One more question for you before i have to let you go. You wrote a piece titled yes biden can still win. In one part you write, Perpetuating Pessimism is doing the republicans job for them by spreading doom and gloom and diminishing the motivation to turn out and vote. Steve, a to the men. Really quickly tell us more about that. Under all the fundamentals so that biden is actually the front runner. The economy is better, the electoral continues to transform. 10 million new voters turn 18. The majority of them people of color. And that theres been a decline in swing voters. Theres almost a vanishing swing of voters. If theres massive turn out biden is going to win. But thats the big challenge. Are they going to invest, are they going to inspire, are people going to get pessimistic and not turn out. Steve phillips as always thank you very much for coming to The Sunday Show. Thank you for having me, jonathan. Coming up, President Biden hits the state of arizona with efforts to get an amendment on abortion on the ballot in november. I ask two people in the fight how this could change the momentum in the race in their state. Plus we get into some of the worse moments from the Trump Campaign trail. The worsee Trump Campaign trail. 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Activists are also hard at work trying to get the 384,000 signatures that are needed by july 3rd to put forth a Ballot Initiative that would enshrine Abortion Protections in Arizona State constitution. Joining me now Arizona State senator pria sonareso. And chris love for Abortion Access in arizona. Thank you so much for coming to The Sunday Show. Chris, im going to start with you. Give us an update. Low close how close are you to getting the 376,000 signatures needed . Were actually very close to that. We started the campaign in chief in september of 2023. Several days later we started our large scale operation to gather the 384,000 Ballot Signatures required to get on the ballot on november 2024. And in january, we announced we had surpassed the minimum number. Can it be a boom to President Bidens chances to winning arizona again this november . I mean, i will say this. We welcome all of the enthusiasm and support for our campaign. And listen, we know the vast majority of arizona voters from across the political spectrum and from various personal reasons that women should have the freedom. Lets talk about the right to Conception Act . What happened now to the legislature. Our right to contraception the Contraception Act is no longer viable. Its not happening. Our effort to bring it to the floor was done because it had been introduced by our senator. We wanted to get a chance to bring this to the floor and bring it to conception in state law. We know that there are other threats that are coming to our rights. Senator, former Vice President mike pence layed out his version for abortion ban this morning. Listen to what he had to say. Were a prolife party. I mean, i really do believe that there is a national role. I would like to see our nominee place a 15 week ban. Will that fly with arizona voters . I dont think so. As chris mentioned, these rights are bipartisan rights. These are supported across the aisle with a Broad Spectrum of the public. We also know that its not going to stop with a 15 week ban. So we need to be protecting affirmatively these rights as quickly as possible in state law our republican majority is limit in the legislature. With a different majority we could change that. This is for both of you in the 90 seconds we have left. I love your thoughts on new reporting showing that republicans plan to lean hard into an anti abortion message going into november. What do you make of that . Chris, you go first. Well, i think theyre trying a number of things. First theyve been trying to moderate their message in an Election Year which is a clear sign that they know that their positions are wildly out of step with the american voters. Even in supporters these 15 week and 16 week bans hurt pregnant patients. Right now in arizona were awaiting a decision from our supreme that will place a law from world war i. The American People are with us and so are arizona voters. Senator, your thoughts. Thats right. I think what were seeing is republicans are leaning into these extreme concepts of banning the right to abortion. Theyre highlighting that they dont necessarily believe that invitro fertilization should be valid and i dont think that helps them. Priah and chris, thank you so much for coming to The Sunday Show. Thank you. Thank you. Up next, remembering two giants in the fight for equality. My thoughts on Civil Rights Civs really . Look how the brushstrokes follow the line of the gas tank. Hey hey brought my plusone. Jamie . Moving forward with nodepositive Breast Cancer is overwhelming. But i never just found my way; i made it. And did all i could to prevent recurrence. Verzenio reduces the risk of recurrence of hrpositive, her2negative, nodepositive, early Breast Cancer with a high chance of returning as determined by your doctor when added to hormone therapy. 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Not only did he raised millions of dollars he also secured a threat from the future president to end a ban on gay Men And Women From Serving in the military. When he supported the dont ask dont tell policy, mixon spoke out against his old friend. On dont ask dont tell, we elected you mr. President not to be led by congress but to lead congress. But to lead congress. So let us help you find your way. Today, in your office, cut off all funding for the prosecution of our soldiers. Tomorrow, when you walk into your oval office, issue a stop loss order. Issue a stop loss order. And then mr. President , you will have the moral authority and we will be behind your back demanding Congress Repeal dont ask dont tell. Mixner was later arrested in front of the white house for leading a protest against the policy. Dont ask dont tell remained in place until it was repealed by President Obama in 2011. 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Lets play this Blood Bath Comment from that rally in ohio yesterday. Were going to put a 100 tariff on every single car that comes across the line. And youre not going to be able to sell those. If i get elected. Now if i dont get elected its going to be a blood bath for the whole. Thats going to be the least of it. Its going to be a blood bath for the country. That will be the least of it. But theyre not going to sell those cars. So governor whitman, you know, he likes to push a he likes to mush a lot of stuff in what he says. Then his campaign says, it was taken out of context or he did not mean violence on the country. Am i right . That means more of the weapons we saw on january 6th. Its appalling to have an expresident. Former is for someone who just left. Exous for someone who was beaten and taken out of the white house. Heist being very clear on what he plans to do if hes back in power. Shame on us if we allow this. A fellow called hitler humph, he said exactly what he was going to do. I dont think trump has written a book but hes giving it to us. Hes been telling us every day, every day what hes going to do, what he think, when he was in the white house. You did battle with him or he did battle with you or he picked on you. In you know white house briefings and press conferences. Weve got how many more months before the november election. Hes going to keep saying things like this. Please explain to the American People who are watching, why it is imperative that we not only listen to what he says, but that we have to report what he says so that they know what they could be getting ourselves into. Well, jonathan. Number one you have to understand that donald trump speaks for what he feels. He never holds anything back. Blood bath is what he wants. He said the same thing about january 6th. But the only lie was that he said he was going to walk them to the capital. He didnt. You had thousands upon thousands of people who did not go through those magnatometers. They knew, the Secret Service knew in those bags they had things that would not have made it across there. Were hearing a lot of his supporters say this. Trust and believe, this election for donald trump is by any means necessary. Take what he says seriously. And not only that, you cannot change the narrative on this. You know, blood bath, thats what he wanted the last time. If he would have had that. If one person or senator was killed, we would not be here today. We would be under a dictatorship. And think about this. Mike pence can say i forgive him but hes not supporting him. One of the main reasons why hes not supporting him. Trust and believe. He would have been swinging on the mall in washington. Yeah, i wish i could say you were being hyperbolic april but its ill possible. Bazel, im going to play one more thing. Get your thoughts on all this but this next thing about the january 6th hostages, listen to this. You see the spirit from the hostages, and thats what they are, are hostages. Theyve been treated terribly and very unfairly and you know that and Everybody Knows that. And were going to be working on that as soon as the first day we get into office. Which is going to save our country, were going to work with the people to treat those unbelievable patriots and they were unbelievable patriots and are. They werent patriots. And we watched with our own eyes what those people did. The reasons why, the reason why they are in jail. Basil, please help. Ive been thinking about those comments in addition to some that he made in georgia last week where he talked about immigrants as being the plunder of our cities. The violation of our citizens and the sacking of our country. And it reminded me of Birth Of A Nation in 1950. When africanamericans were viewed as being hypersexual and hyper aggressive particularly toward white women and it was the clan and White Supremacists that were upholding the virtues of america. It is that kind of language that he is using and talking about and harking back on as he makes these kinds of speeches. Somebody is going to say. Africanamericans and immigrants are very different but my feeling is the bullet that is going to be shot from the gun of the person that he inspires is not going to care about your back story. And the bill cassidy to go on tv and say this is how he talks. We should just dismiss it. We had enough of that in 2016. If you didnt learn your lesson then you should learn your lesson now. Because all you have to do is go back to january 6th. All those things people didnt think he would do or was serious about. There are a lot of people that got real serious, real fast. Dont go any where. My panel is sticking around. 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Governor, is it inappropriate for the Senate Majority leader to express his concerns the way he did . Well i think its very significant for netanyahu. Its something that should raise a red flag in his governor. Certainly weve been seeing lots of protests on the streets. Dozens and dozens of people who are protesting on the current policies. To have a senator speak out this we is a game changer in many ways. He can say whatever he feels. He didnt call for that he just said an election to let the israeli people find their way. Its a subtle difference we all get where he was going with it. But still, i dont think that you can call him out on that because he feels deeply about it. He has been the most proisraeli person serving in congress for all the time hes been there. So its very significant i think for netanyahu to have this happen. Its got to be sending him a signal about where the senate and the United States is on this issue. And you know, basel what i found interesting in the Prime Ministers response you dont go to a Sister Democracy. I remember Prime Minister netanyahu coming to the United States at the invitation of the republican Speaker Of The House to speak before congress in opposition to the Iran Nuclear Deal that the president of the United States was trying to get over the finish line. I had that in my notes to talk about because i remember that very, very clearly. President obama was completely blind sided by that issue. We havent discussed that notion of banana republic. That term used as proxy for wars in countries like the caribbean or south america. Kind of remind me of the language trump uses. If i draw the line between what he said and the obama incident, you know its pretty consistent sort of in my view sort of how he feels about you know where he is in israel and how americans shouldnt be talking about his presidency. But you know what, i do agree with the governor wholeheartedly that he can say whatever he wants. But for Chuck Schumer to make that comment. Ive been in politics for 20 some odd years. It surprised me. It is a sea change in politics. April, what i find interesting about you know, beyond the Majority Leaders comments and the intentionty with which he said them, its when he said them. His powerful speech came after the president told me in an interview last week that if netanyahu were to invade rafa that would be a red line for him. Hes had very strong words for netanyahu and that came after lots of signals, very public signals from the Vice President , the secretary of state. The National Security advisor publicly going at the way the Israeli Defense forces have been waging its campaign in gaza. Should we see, oh and President Biden praised Majority Leader schumers speech. So should we see this rift that appears to be happening, opening up not between the United States and israel but between the president of the United States and the Prime Minister of israel . These two men. Im not going to call the relationship complicated. Its very different at best. You know, the democrats jonathan and congratulations on that magnificent interview with the president. But you have to remember democrats are not just doing this willie nilly. They have talked to many jewish leaders. They have heard, Benjamin Netanyahu even beyond this has not always been the most credible person. Lets look back at 2019, okay. When he was indicted on what is it, bribery, fraud and breech of trust. So we have to remember those things as well. But, also, this is one of the key pieces for democrats. America does not want to continue to see this war going on. Too much bloodshed on all sides. Palestinians and israelis and they want the israelis home. Okay. The hostages. So this is a move to shift hopefully, to shift some dynamics to bring the hostages back. And to bring peace. To free people, and i mean think about this. Quick point, we have to go. Something has to give, and schumer came out and said netanyahu we simply need an election so you may have to go. And hopefully this dynamic shift will lead to something that brings us to a resolution sooner rather than later. April ryan, basil, scott whitman, thank you very much for coming back to The Sunday Show. That will do it for me today. Thank you for watching, ill be back next saturday and sunday back here on msnbc. Remember to follow us on x. You can also catch clips of the show on you tube. Dont go any where. Dont go any where. Lergic to nurtec. Allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. Most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. Ask about nurtec odt. Rsv can severely affect the lungs and lower airways. But im protected with arexvy. 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