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And tim miller on whether we will see any president ial debates and by many think the answer is a big, no. A good day to all of you from msnbc headquarters in new york but welcome everyone to alex witt reports. We begin with President Biden and donald trump with dueling rallies, the battleground state of georgia. Election season unofficially kicks off. Biden arriving in atlanta just a short time ago where he will speak later on. The president also launching a new ad in georgia. Joking about his age as he seeks to reach out to younger voters. Jonathan capehart will have an inclusive interview with the president today that will air at 6 00 p. M. Right here on The Saturday Show and i will talk shortly with Jasmine Crockett to get her take on the campaign about the message Going Forward from the president as he begins campaigning. Donald trump heads to Marjorie Taylor greenes district tonight. Aaron gilchrist will highlight the trump bid to return to the white house that comes among controversy and jeopardy. Take a lesson. Remember republican nominee for President Donald Trump on friday had a Photo Opportunity with viktor orban. Widely seen as one of the biggest autocrats and embraced as a model for far right conservatives in the u. S. He is a noncontroversial figure because this is the way it is going to be and that is the end of it. Reporter trump dealing with legal troubles of posting a 91 million bond and filing an appeal in the e. Jean carroll Defamation Case where she won 83 million verdict. Trump returning to georgia for the First Time Since turning himself in at the Fulton County jail last august on charges related to the 2020 president ial election. We go right now to aaron gilchrist, who is joining me in atlanta. We heard part of your report there but what can we expect to hear from President Biden today . Reporter the president will be speaking tonight in the 6 00 hour. We expect they are already having a lot of people gathering here at the venue site for his speech. This is going to be an opportunity for the president to engage with people of color, communities of color. This morning he was able to get the endorsement of three large Political Action committees that represent asian, black and latino voters across the country. Today this is his opportunity to reach out to those groups that he is reach out on occasions before and the Campaign Says he will reach out to repeatedly between now and election day in november. The president is in philadelphia yesterday coming out of the State Of The Union speech that his supporters that was when they found to be energetic and fiery. One supporter telling me that they wanted this sort of speech to come from the president a long time ago. Want you to hear a little bit about what he said on the ground in philadelphia before coming to georgia. Freedom, democracy, teacher based on the core values that have defined america. Honesty, decency, fairness, equality. It is treating people fairly. That is the american creed. Donald trump sees the story differently. He sees a story of resentment, advantage and retribution. Reporter President Biden will continue that message here in georgia today. We know he is also we know that Vice President harris is also campaigning today and is going to be in nevada reaching out to latino voters in that area. This is something the Biden Campaign has said it will continue to do across the Campaign Season going into the general election. Alex, we can expect to see a commercial by an ad by television that will air today. A 30 million by for the Biden Campaign. In Battleground States targeting communities of color. Two aaron gilchrist, thank you so much from atlanta. I would like you to stay with me because we are being joined by alexi mccammon, msnbc political analyst along with tim miller. Also nbc news political analyst and host of the bulwark podcast. Tim is also the author of why we did it a travelogue from the republican road to hell. I kind of laugh at that with the title. Alexi, you know bidens approval went up eight points after his last date of the union. He and present parents are starting a six state swing but what do you think he needs to emphasize to capitalize on the State Of The Union this year . Reporter thanks for having me. The State Of The Union was definitely more of a Campaign Speech directed, i think, at the base. He needs to keep them intact to win in 2024. That it was a traditional State Of The Union speech. He has set a number of limes lines all have a long shelf life but it is about how old you are are but how old the ideas. Talking about his predecessor and setting up the stakes, again, that donald trump brings to democracy and portion and reproductive access. Those are obviously two issues that work well for democrats in 2022. It is clear that biden and harris are planning on running very heavily on democracy, abortion and the threat, the unique and increasingly scary threat that trump will bring to the white house if he is re elected. Even after the speech, tim, the republican response was given by the freshman junior alabama senator katie britt. President bidens Border Policies are a disgrace and this crisis is despicable and the truth is, it is almost entirely preventable. Many republicans seem pretty put off by that. One told the daily beast, quote, everyones losing it. It is one of our biggest disasters ever what were republicans trying to accomplish and what went wrong reporter i think donald trump has the top 20 stott spots in the biggest disaster but is deftly at the top of the nontrump disaster less. It was extremely weird and a little bit crinkly, frankly. If you listen to seven top most the time, she talks like a normal person but she is a senator and accomplish. Why she did in the kitchen . Im not sure. That sunday weird signal to women voters. Frankly, suburban women voters that things are strung after roe v. Wade and the ivf decision. It was a range of issues and a performance that was a nightmare but even a Pacifica Subset that was not that good over the weekend it has been revealed one example she is referencing , she goes into dater detail talking about a very dramatic story. She has a fake cry voice going on about a woman that is very afraid in mexico. While it is a sad story, she implies that this has something to do with the biden border policy. It is a story that happened 20 years ago in mexico, not in america or at the border at all. It was disastrous with all the levels of content and performance. Aaron, how much leverage does the Biden Campaign think it has over the Trump Campaign . You mentioned the herd huge ad by starting today. 30 million ad by that will see these commercials are this particular commercial for you run for about six weeks in the Battleground States. The Biden Campaign and feels comfortable with the test it has been developing in the last year as the president announced he was running for reelection. The Campaign Thing it has somewhere in the neighborhood of 140 million available. I believe that was the number, 140 million available to spend going into the start of the Campaign Season. Many months ahead for the campaign to make more money. We know that on the State Of The Union night, the Campaign Said it broke a record for fundraising in the hours that the president was speaking and the hours after he spoke. The campaign feels like it has the test it needs now and will continue to earn more money to mount a good fight against the former president leading up to the election. Tim, you have worked in a lot of campaigns but how much does having a big war chest by a campaign . How much advantage is that ultimately . Reporter i have a little bit of a contrarian view on this. I dont think the money is important to make it out to be, particularly at the president ial level. A lot of voters have pretty big views of these two candidates. It is a bigger influence of congressional level when people have not heard of candidates. When the disparity as large as it is between biden and trump and where the president , i think we can all admit has had trouble breaking through with his positive messaging and earned media. Due in part to all this crazy things happening in the world and part that you have to cover the trump show and all the nonsense that goes on the back. Having Additional Resources to go up on tv and tell a basic, straightforward message about a policy contrast, about the accomplishments, infrastructure, trips chips and et cetera. You asked your colleagues at the post infighting should debate trump one said there is no reason provided to debate trump but he is a clown. Biden should not give him the form then there was another colic you said biden should call his bluff. Especially after thursdays speech, that strong performance, should he debate trump . Reporter i am with my colleague, david on this. I personally do not think that biden should debate trump. I am not advising him or the campaign. A lot of folks around the campaign are saying they think it would be a good idea and he should debate him. The campaign has not ruled it out. My understanding it is not something they are spending hours and hours discussing and pouring over at this moment. I just think it would be a disaster. The commission on president ial debates would have to change rules, knowing who trump is and what he brings to a setting like that. I was rewatching the first debate in 2020 recently. It was a complete disaster. It was so hectic. Trumper is erratic. He kept interrupting biden. They should cut up the microphones or do something differently if they will make us sit through three debates this time but it would not be the substantive Policy Discussions that voters need or want. If anything, it would just show people the personality and character of each man. As tim alluded to, the opinions are baked in about both of these guys and people know who they are. Three debates would not serve anyone well. If anything, there should be one and the rules should be different. There are other ways to get your message out. I think it would be a waste of time for biden and for those double doubters who do not like either and are trying to figure how to make a decision. You with that, tim . Reporter biden has to do one. I understand most of alexis point. I just think the doubts about the age continued to seep in western voters. On balance, i think it is a tough call because of all the things that alexi just laid out about trumps behavior trump not following the rules. Trump not telling the truth. Biden has limited chances to prove to those that dont support him that he is up for another four years. Aaron, you will give us the last word on this topic. Do you have a sense of which way the Biden Campaign is leaning . They have not definitively decided, have a . Reporter they havent. It has been a question that has been asked several times of several people a direct answer has not been given. The most direct response we got was President Biden asked on the tarmac yesterday whether he was going to whether he would commit to debating the former president. Biden said, it depends on his behavior. That is most direct response we have gotten but it remains to be seen, as others have said, whether the campaign will decide this is something that is in their interest and there would be benefit for President Biden to debate former President Trump. Tim, now that nikki haley is out. Where did her vote go . How many do you think biden may have won over with that speech . Reporter if you look at haley, just doing quick math. She had about 20 to 25 of the party in various states. Half of those voters will be biden voters. They mightve been the republicans who voted for biden last time. You are looking about half of her vote, which are new potential gets for biden. Call about 10 or 12 . I think they are on the table, most of them. Some of them, you can get them to not vote for either candidate which would be a win if they voted for trump the last two times for some of them are persuadable to biden. If you look at the State Of The Union, it seemed to meet biden item thats what he is focused on beginning with ukraine, for example and put in quoting reagan and talk about increase in police funding. The campaign is aware that there is some more potential votes that can be gained from that audience that let me ask you the same question, alexi. Where do nikki haleys vote go . Reporter trump esther of them and President Biden should do the same. Folks like nikki haley or liz cheney, it is one thing not to endorse donald trump. Not to Director Voters where to go. It is another thing to keep at that. Another thing, yet, to endorse President Biden and tell your voters where to go. If you are truly concerned about the future of the country or even the future of your party, donald trump is not the answer. For people, like nikki haley, it is a question of what is it time to tell your voters, your donors, look, this is not a question of President Biden or donald trump, it is a question of the future of our country and democracy. You need to vote for President Biden. The word democracy there, tim, as biden is building on his State Of The Union message, donald trump hosted viktor orban, the authoritarian leader of hungary. Take a listen to this. We kept in touch. There is no and that is better, smarter or a better leader than viktor orban. As you know he is the Prime Minister of hungary. He does a great job. He is a noncontroversial figure because he says this is leah will be and that is the end of it. Is this highlighting the very difference that biden was trying to show in his speech, tim . Reporter it is right on the nose about the threats to trump. You worry there is hyperbole about the threats to democracy. It is not hyperbole when you care to hungary. That is most apt comparison to what trump wants to do is the orban model. If you look at hungary, it is not successful. The rights of women and Lgbtq Community have been curtailed dramatically. Immigrants rights have curtailed but the economy is terrible. This is a good message for some of the nikki haley voters who think that donald trump is going to be good for the economy. Total erosion of institutions and idiot autocrat taking over the country is not good for the economy. You can look at the numbers and how that is going in hungary i think he is playing to a contrast somewhat. A lot of his base voters want this and like this. He has always had those voters desires in mind, first and foremost, and eight infinity for dictators. It is not a change of behavior but it is a contrast. Last question to you, aaron brewer to what extent do you think the Biden Campaign in this Election Year will focus on the threats to american democracy . What have they indicated . This will be a key theme of the campaign all the way up until election day. They have made it a point to include in almost every set of comments the president has made his appeal to American Voters for reelection to keep him in office. The Biden Campaign and President Biden, himself, as he said many times, believes donald trump represents a threat to democracy. In some ways, he has endorsed or embraced, to some degree, people like a Vladimir Putin and people similar to him. And that sort of if it is only rhetoric even the rhetoric is something that is dangerous to democracy both here in the United States and Around The World aaron gilchrist, alexi mechanic, tim, good to see rid tim miller. It is just him. I have some coffee. I will drink some guys, thank you so much. Circle where the push for as ceasefire stands right now. Jasmine crockett on that and a whole lot more. Back in 60 seconds with a little more coffee. Migraine attacks, all in one. Dont take if allergic to nurtec. 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It comes as Gaza Civil Defense says, five civilians were killed this week when parachutes on boxes, they failed to open and dropped them. It is not confirmed who was responsible for dropping the aide. That is go to allie rafah who is standing by. First of all, what do we know about the status of these negotiations and what role the Biden Administration is playing . Reporter the president is not hiding how much less hopeful and optimistic he now is about a temporary ceasefire deal by ramadan compared to what we heard from him late last month when he was hopeful and confident that a deal could be reached, in the coming days. We heard him say yesterday that those negotiations, the deal coming through before the deadline is now, quote, looking tough he admitted he is concerned about a rise in violence in East Jerusalem were several muslim holy sites are located at the deal was not able to be reached by ramadan. These concessions by the president are the latest proof that we have of this frustration by President Biden about the worsening humanitarian crisis in gaza and how israel is handling that since it started. We saw that spill into The Public Eye as recently as thursday after the president s State Of The Union. He lingered on the house for for some time talking with lawmakers. He was caught on a hot mic responding to colorado senator michael bennet, who encouraged a present to continue putting pressure on Prime Minister netanyahu to ease the situation, the humanitarian situation in gaza. Listen to how the president respond to that. Reporter you could see what of the president s aide trying to rush him away from that seen. As far as where the ceasefire talks are right now, alex, they dissolved a few days ago. The talks between hamas and he negotiators in cairo after u. S. Officials said that israel has more or less agreed to the framework of a six week Cease Fire Deal but the ball, they say, is still in hamas court. We know that the cia director, bill burns, is back in the region to get the ball rolling. New let me ask you on the humanitarian side but what we know about these deaths from the Aide Dropping and how long it will take to build this tragedy went on the shoreline that the president spoke about in the State Of The Union . Reporter the pentagon was asked about those deaths in the briefings yesterday. Officials said that as far as they have been able to conclude from the dropping of the pallets from the air drops in recent days that no u. S. Airdrop has resulted in any deaths or injuries of palestinians on the ground in gaza. They say that the u. S. Is now, as you mentioned, working on the construction of that port to be able to directly deliver water, food, medicine directly into gaza. It is going to take around 1000 u. S. Personnel and around 60 days to continue constructing that. And they continue to stress this will not require u. S. Boots on the ground in gaza. The u. S. Is in a unique position to be able to do this effort without requiring u. S. Boots on the ground allie raffa, thank you for that. Jeremy right now is Jasmine Crockett. She is a member of the House Committee on oversight and accountability. And a welcome friend to us here at msnbc. Congressman, thank you for being here but let us talk about gaza. Are these new efforts announced by President Biden going to persuade any of your fellow members that the president is changing his stance on the work you might i dont know about that, alex. Great question. Great try. I am not really sure. One of the things that has been frustrating is that you make those of us in congress, we know, number one, that we serve in the United States congress. We do not serve for israel. We do not serve for the Palestinian People either. Right now, what people are wanting us to do is almost step in and make all the decisions. We are not allowed to do that. What we are about to do is be influential which is what the United States has done. As you hurt on the hot mic, the president , in my opinion, has been having very strong and real conversations. The way that we deal with foreign affairs, especially Something Like this, usually is not out front and out loud. I applaud what the president is doing right now. It is my hope and my belief that the president will continue to have very stern conversations Behind Closed Doors so that, hopefully, we can get to a two State Solution. Alex, you know like i know, that a two State Solution is something we have been talking about is way before october 7th. This is a long issue but i do not think it will be resolved overnight. And alisa beck is an issue. Let us talk about the present whose turning up the heat in his campaign against donald trump following the sale of the union on friday. Do you think he hit the right tone and hit his message resonating with americans kim i was so proud. It was fantastic. I received some Text Messages from people saying, did you have the present with his speech because it was full of fire came that is what i wanted to see. That is what they one of the American People to feel part is one thing to have the likes of me and other members say after this report from came out and saying hes not a senile old man. It is another thing to see it for yourself but it is important that he stresses that he needs a good team. He hit that stride. He made it clear that it is not just about him. He cannot fix some of the stuff by himself. He went after the Supreme Court. He went after the fact that the House Republicans have made this a donothing congress. I thought it was absolutely phenomenal. Going on the attack and he also gave a vision, especially around Something Like housing. I was in nursing, i need my 400 a month so i can upgrade my Housing Situation as well. I thought he did a phenomenal job. Looking right now at evidence of the many expressions of speaker johnson. They were on full display given his positioning during that president s address. Overall, he remained respectful. Some republicans were not capable of respecting his request to maintain decorum. Marjorie Taylor Greene was her usual combative self. Tell me what the mood was like there and how much did it reflect political divisions in america right now mark oh my gosh. I was sitting right on the other side of the aisle from i think of the same role row as ntg. She is trailer trash. She shows every single day that is who she is. She has not been able to conform to some sort of rules. We have rules. This is not just about her wearing a maga happened we are not allowed to wear any hats on the house floor, let alone a baseball cap but we are not allowed to wear any type of campaign paraphernalia. I remember black Caucus Numbers tell me about the fact they have been told they had to take off buttons that has George Floyds name on them when they were on the house floor. Here it was, she told the sergeant at arms she would not take it off. It was completely disrespectful. The fact that he other than that the fact that they did not stand up and would not stand up for things like, cancer treatment. They would not stand up for making sure that our kids are educated. It tells you where they stand but they would not stand up for democracy. The last date of the union, they at least cheered some of these basics. They refused to cheer on any basics. They were frozen and looking around. It was almost as if they were waiting on donald trump, himself, to send them a text letting them know when it was okay for them to participate and you get punished anyway for wearing that hat . It frequently breaks the rules. Supposedly, she told the sergeant at arms to find me. I know that nancy pelosi, mariner, the next day she went up to the sergeant at arms and nancy was in full nancy mode. She was not going to let that go i do not know what took place in that conversation but she had some very strong words for the sergeant at arms. Let me ask you aboutseven of alabama. She slammed biden on the Border Policies. He inherited the most secure border of all time. There is a reason there is an Immigration Crisis is because biden overturned the Border Policies. What do you make of the message . Is that what your constituents believe . No one believes that. We had a handmade tail posted in the kitchen trying to tell us about the president s policies. Even her senior senator decided to say, we just had to go grab a housewife. Somehow, she actually has a job. It is the same as yours. She is not just a housewife anymore. They think that if they say it, they are relying on the American People to sit there and not do their research. I think there is a difference between security and the immigrant crisis. I think there has been a conflation of the two. As relates to security, we are hearing about dangers the border and specifics of that. What we are hearing about, the only danger is coming from my governor, going out and potentially killing migrant mothers and children as they are attempting to seek a better life. I think we have a migrant crisis. I do not know that there has been any evidence or proof of there being a Security Crisis. A Security Crisis looks like a mosque entering israel on october 7th. A Security Crisis looks like russia has done to ukraine. As far as i can tell, i do not see that. I do see Manager Crisis and we absolutely have to act right now. We have to make sure that this humanitarian crisis does not cover up some of what the cartel wants to do with us and infiltrate. That is by the president s plan to make the investments of the border matters. The fact that they have a center in the woman in the kitchen to give a response and to be overly dramatic is the same joke that Republican Party is right now. Texas congresswoman, Jasmine Crockett, thank you for the spirited conversation. We will see you again soon. When you read it you cannot deny the wording is strong. Why jack smith is not holding back in a new legal filing. I was sad. Colton i was diagnosed with rhabdomyosarcoma. Brett once we got the first initial hit, it was just straight tears, sickness in your stomach, just dont want to get up out of bed. Joe theres always that saying, well, youve got to look on the bright side of things. Tell me what the bright side of Childhood Cancer is. 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Jake trailer is in rome, georgia for aspirate i know you spoke with Marjorie Taylor greene just a bit earlier, one of trumps staunchest allies. What did she have to say . Reporter The Last Time donald trump was in georgia publicly he was actually being booked into Fulton County jail for unlawfully trying to overturn election results. He is the republican nominee for president. He is also holding a dueling Campaign Rally against biden but you can hear behind me Marjorie Taylor greene has taken the stage, this is her home district. She has been a staunch ally of former President Trump from the beginning but he made the border from 2015 a Mainstay Issue for broken voters. She rounds up the crowd everything on time. She interrupted President Biden asking her to say the name of laken riley. She is taking all the blame for that murder on President Biden for the unsecured border. Just listen to the words from earlier today. He went 15 minutes into the state of the Union Address talking about our union and the state of our country. The number one issue across the entire country is the wide open border. The number one issue is laken riley. The innocent american like her being murdered. President biden, first off, he owes the entire country an apology but there is blood on his hands. Reporter now, this has been used to talk about what is happened to laken riley and the things that present biden has done wrong. Something that the crowd, very vocally is aware of. This is no coincidence that trump is coming into georgia, a key swing state that he narrowly lost in 2020 and using immigration. Saying he will have the largest deportation in American History and putting it all on the death of laken riley. We will keenly watch to hear how he does do not as President Biden campaigns just down the road. Alex. Jake, i will let you get back to things going on behind you in rome, georgia. On the legal front jack smith is summing former President Trump ahead of thursday when the judge will hear trumps arguments on his motion to dismiss the classified documents case. In a filing this week trump writing the Immunity Claim is wholly without merit and it is difficult to understand it except as part of a strategic effort for delay. The court should deny the Dismissal Motion and certified trumps Immunity Claim. He cannot use this maryland argument. Janina and the studio is paul butler. Thank you for being here but glad to have you. The judge will hear the argument that he is protected from prosecution by president ial records act. In that criminal law involving the mishandling of National Security secrets cannot be applied to him as a former president. Is there a reason, paul, that she is not just waiting for the Supreme Court decision on this . With the Supreme Court decision affect all of this . Reporter the issues are slightly different. In the federal election interference case, that is largely about trumps conduct while he was in office. There is one issue about whether the president is doing official acts in office in this case, involving classified documents. Trump was largely charged with conduct after he left office. We are hearing the same tired old the fence from him. He is saying that he declassified the materials so that everything that they found at his house, that the fbi found in his home, was his own personal property. Jack smith is saying, wait a minute. Not only were these not your own personal property, this is some of the most sensitive military information, reportedly including even nuclear secrets. Classify, exactly. News book reports that jack smith is set to fire language coded briefs, if you well. So the public cannot learn the names of the witnesses for fear they could be put in harms way. Could judge cannon decide she wants the names unredacted. Reporter ciardi has decided and that is when jack smith went nuclear. We dont see him making any kind of statements. His expression in the courtroom when the judge was thinking about making the names public, he was apocalyptic. He says what we all know that when people were trying to hold trump accountable and their names were made public. Terrible things happen to them. There is 24 witnesses who trump wants to hold wants to have the whole world know. Jack said, it is just wrong, even on the lot but even on the cases the judge sites to support her rolling dont say what she says they say. Jack smith uses the word, frivolous. That is actually a term of art. It means that if trump loses on these issues, he does not have the right to appeal until after the trial is over. Interesting. John dean, former white House Counsel for Richard Nixon had this to say about judge cannons approach to this case. Let us take a listen to what he had to say. I think that is a real possibility that they think there is still an outstanding possibility she could be removed from this case. There are some motions in front of her that will be dealt with tomorrow and if she rolls the wrong way, jack smith might seek to remove hair. You see that happening . If that does, does that not play to trumps delay tactic . It does. The standard for removal is when a judge conduct gives rise to an appearance of impartiality or not being impartial or impropriety. I think judge cannon has satisfied that standard. She has already been reviewed twice by the Court Of Appeals for illegally favoring donald trump. Is jack smith likely to ask the court to kick her off the case gimmick i doubt it. First of all, that would not be successful. Courts of appeals do not like to remove judges. They would point out that this judge has reluctantly decided some issues in favor of jack smith. The Supreme Court hears the Immunity Claim in the d. C. Trial on april 25th. It happens to be the very last day that the Supreme Court can hear arguments this term. What is that telling you the timing of all of this . Differently, the delay there has been big chunks of time between proposals for the Supreme Court. Saying listen to this, will you take this case . And then days later they come up with an answer. Reporter everything about timing, but as think about december. In december, trump asked the court to consider the colorado ballot case, where he got kicked off the ballot there. In December The Court Medially said, yes. The expedited briefing and or arguments. We got the decision in that case this week. Also in december, jack smith asked the Supreme Court to leapfrog over the d. C. Court of appeals and decide the Immunity Issue immediately. The court said, no. We will wait for the d. C. Court of appeals to decide for the court did not need to do that. It had a brilliant 57 page opinion from the judge. It had a 40 page opinion from the Court Of Appeals. Both making the obvious legal point that the president is not immune from prosecution for things that he does while he is in office that are obviously illegal. Nonetheless, the court waited and waited and this week is that oral argument, literally on the last day. It is extraordinary. Some people are interpreting things one way. I know you are leaving as it is been paul butler, thank you so much. The clock is ticking towards a tiktok bandwidth new information from capitol hill, next. And more ontime deliveries. The United States Postal Service built for how you business. Bladder leak underwear has one job. I just want to feel protected especially for those sudden gush moments. Always discreet protects like no other. With a rapid dry core that locks in your heaviest gush quickly for up to zero leaks. Always discreet the protection we deserve this weekend President Biden is expressing support for a bill that could bend tiktok in the u. S. The house is set to vote next week. It would give the Chinese Parent Company six months to sell the app or risk the band carry ground block reporter fair so bluebells that come up with unanimous bipartisan corporate this at 50 to 0 support coming out of committee towards a vote on the house floor. It is exactly as you described. Bytedance, the chinese own company, the u. S. Would say you cannot have tiktok in the u. S. Yet to sell the company to have tiktok in the u. S. That may not happen. Members of congress are worried about that data as it relates to what is being sold on the app. What they know about americans that are using the app and what they are doing with that information. Here is what a few members of congress had to say. I think we need to ask the hard questions about the relationship with us in china. We are just here saying, we should have Technology Like this, not be in control by the ccp or our adversaries. It is that simple. Reporter so, the president , as well, is also supporting signaling his support to sign the spell, should pass through the house and through the senate. It is issued because his campaign actually also uses tiktok to try to get people to support his campaign. It is also important to look like the people that are impacted by it band of tiktok in the u. S. But were talking about comedians, were talking about lifestyle. People that make millions and millions of dollars from their use of this app. Absolutely. Gary, i will ask you to stick around because we do have this Breaking News from atlanta. As Msnbc Jonathan Capehart just sat down with President Biden for an inclusive interview. Here is a snippet. Let us take a listen. Reporter i noticed the look of surprise when he walked in the chamber and you saw Marjorie Taylor greene it was priceless. You feign shock at seeing her. During your response to her high killing of you, you use the word illegal. That was when talk about the man who allegedly killed laken riley. Undocumented person. I should not have said illegal. When i spoke while it is jean trump and me, one of things i talked about is the way he talks about berman and the these people polluting the blood but i talked about what i will not do. What i wont do. I will not treat any of these people with disrespect. They built the country. The reason our economy is growing but we have to control the border and the orderly flow. I dont share his view at all. You regret using that word. Yes. This interview just conducted by Jonathan Capehart. You will be able to hold to hear all of that at 6 00 on The Saturday Show. Im curious what congressional reaction has been to the president using that in an off thecuff, ad lib. , using the word illegal in response to the heckling that he got. Reporter 99 of the State Of The Union was a very scripted and very practiced speech. That part was off script that part was adlibbed, as you could tell. As he walked in to the house chamber, he was given a button bite marley teenager green, congressman from georgia but it said laken riley. She was imploring him to say her name, meaning say laken rileys name. When he was interrupted by some of the congress people, including Marjorie Taylor greene, he did pick up a button and say her name. As you mentioned, said the word illegal. Clearly, he regret that. Members of congress on both sides of aisle the come out, including immigration advocates a illegal is a derogatory term. Nbc news has interviewed a number of spanishspeaking people from across the country who said it, they are offended by that term but they view themselves as, perhaps, having come into the country illegally. There is wording bear in terms of how this all plays out. Absolutely. Allie raffa is back from the white house. You have to think about the president having heard the term illegals. We do not use that here at nbc news. He said he does not use that as well, typically but when you have the other side, Marjorie Taylor greene, constantly using that word coming at them. It seemed that it was embedded in the president s mind and he does regret having used that in place of the turn that much undocumented workers. Reporter this unscripted moment by the president On Thursday Night, since that speech On Thursday Night, we have seen the white house come out on defense and say that latinos, latino voters know where the president stands when it comes to Immigration Policies and the crisis at the u. S. mexico border. Really, shrug off that comment, the unscripted comment On Thursday Night but you heard them in that interview with Jonathan Capehart saying that he should not have used the word illegal. And saying that he regrets using that word. This admission from the president comes as we have seen anger from even the far left of his party. We have seen several members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus come out and oppose that comment made by the president. Those members, that caucus, in recent weeks have expressed frustration with the white house for not being more closely embedded and tuned in to the meetings that the white house was having when the bipartisan border bill was being drawn up. The bill that the president has, for weeks now, touted as this fair and good faith effort by the white house with Dhs Secretary Mayorkas to work across the aisle with republicans on capitol hill to finally get some changes to Border Policies. That would provide for more judges and Asylum Hearing some of the border, more Border Patrol resources and officials. The president has long now said that former President Trump is to blame for the disintegration of that bell. Now still in limbo and congress. It comes as the president really sees the crisis at the border as a political vulnerability. That is in part the visit, the very vivid is the agreement split screen. I want to make sure that a strong latino group across United States did endorse President Biden today. That is duly noted and the breath of this conversation but for all of you, be sure to watch Jonathan Capeharts full interview with President Biden on The Saturday Show, 6 00 p. M. Eastern here on msnbc. That will do it on this edition of alex witt reports. I was you tomorrow at 1 00 p. M. Eastern