Bringing people into your cause, not turning them away. And with donald trump strapped for cash, the New York Times is reporting he met with the worlds richest man, elon musk. Did the man behind the book Think Like A Billionaire convince this billionaire to help him out . Plus, what this epic rematch means for Down Ballot Races including control of congress as Senate Minority leader Mitch Mcconnell endorses the former president. Weve got all of that coming up. But we begin with the next critical 31 hours for president joe biden, now putting the finishing touches on a speech hell likely have the biggest audience between now and november. The State Of The Union is tomorrow night, and its right on the heels of donald trump becoming the Presumptive Republican nominee. The president is expected to contrast his vision for america with trumps apocalyptic view. They want open borders, and open borders are going to destroy our country. We need borders and free and fair elections. Our cities are being overrun with migrant crime and its biden migrant crime, and its a new category of crime. The world is laughing at us. The world is taking advantage of us. The last State Of The Union pulled in more viewers, and importantly now, nikki haley supporters who may be looking for somewhere to go after her exit from the race. Nbcs Kelly Odonnell reports from the white house. I also want to bring in former Ohio Governor john kasich who Ran Against Trump in 2016. And alencia johnson, political strategist and former Senior Adviser for President Biden in 2020. Good to have all of you here. Kelly, a biden aide told the New York Times, quote, the key to success in a High Pressure setting, speaking of the State Of The Union is let joe biden be joe biden. What can you tell us about his preps that are sure going on today, and how hell use that massive stage, that big audience . Thats right on point, chris. We dont see the president publicly today because theres a lot of home work being done behind the scenes. This is the political super bowl or world series or oscar night, big big audience where theres Great Potential for a president to demonstrate, especially a Candidate Running again, and given all the scrutiny, all the questions about age, fitness and this rematch of a race, an opportunity for President Biden to try to set the contrast, talk about his policies, sell his vision to the American Public and to demonstrate a certain versatility, quick on his feet kind of approach, which the white house believes he was able to do last year successfully in a moment that dealt with Social Security and kind of a Realtime Negotiation with republicans on the floor there. Will there be that kind of moment this time around . Can they anticipate things including the potential for protests or calling out from either members of congress or those in the gallery watching. And so for the president , who wants to prepare very personally working on the drafts of the speech himself, marking the script of the speech to help him with his own breathing and cadence, remember, people often forget that hes had a lifelong stutter and so when he is speaking publicly, using a teleprompter, hes trying to find ways to power through that stutter. Thats a greater challenge that he faces when he delivers to an audience of this profile. Hell also have a different speaker of the house behind his shoulder in mike johnson. They have had at times a tense relationship. And one of the Big Questions will be how much will he address maga republicans which we expect he will do, and how much will he talk about the former president and how directly will he do that. So the affirmative goals for the president , talking about voting rights, Reproductive Rights, his vision for an economy that can work for the middle class and trying to bring costs down, and then setting the big contrast on what he believes are really existential differences between him and his predecessor, now his rival. It will be a Big Night With High Stakes and potential before the president takes it on the road, visiting parts of the country Battle Grounds primarily to sell his plans over the next month. Chris. Kelly odonnell, thank you for that. Some analysts say Speaker Mike Johnson made a miscalculation in scheduling State Of The Union because it allows President Biden to continue momentum from super tuesday, now reset now that the race is set. I dont know whether or not you think thats true, but how does he maximize this moment . Reason, i think republicans, like democrats, we obviously welcomed it. President biden didnt have to address the American People on tuesday night as donald trump did or any of the other candidates like nikki haley. He has the world stage, and i say that specifically because the world is watching the united states. So he has the world stage to talk about not only his record achievements that a lot of people have talked about. He has been able to do a lot more than other president s in two terms. Hes going to talk about his vision to make sure that the wealthy and corporations pay their fair share and the middle and lower class stop feeling the brunt of it. And most importantly, i think, for a lot of people hes going to talk about Reproductive Rights and agency and in the framework of not Just Health Care but more likely in the framework of democracy and rights and freedom. One thing im going to say about Reproductive Rights and Abortion Access, since the Dobbs Decision, one in three women of reproductive age live in a place with no access to abortion. And thats probably going to come up quite a bit as he talks about not only his plans to make sure people have those rights but also contrast between the extremists on the Republican Side. Governor, if he wants to bring over the nikki haley voters, and i dont know if you think thats possible, but what does he need to say. What does he need to do . Does he even say the names donald trump or nikki haley . I dont think i would, but let me start by saying that ive watched this chaos increasingly envelope the state of the Union Address where we see people yell and scream and shouting, you know, that is another example, chris, i hate to say it, but it is another example of the erosion of some of our basic institutions. So let me ask you about that specifically. Marjorie taylor green did that in the last State Of The Union. Do you keep going on or do you call it out . Thats whats wrong right now with politics. What i would say if i were there is, listen, you know, were not talking about joe biden. Were talking about the presidency. Do we respect the office of the president. Do you respect the place where you work. You work here in the house of representatives. Do you respect that. So inherent in that is we need to have some regard for these institutions, not to demean the president , not to demean the house, but now lets let me continue. Thats what i would do if that was happening to me. Secondly, look, i think he needs to make a case on the economy. He needs to point out that peoples 401 ks are up the markets are matter. He needs to talk about the fact hes from scranton. How does somebody feel when they go in the grocery store. Its not what you tell me. Its how i feel when im around you or how do i feel when im in the store. So he can take some credit. We have to acknowledge, we have a ways to go. I think when it gets to the border, i think he should chide the republicans and say, look, for the First Time Since ronald reagan, we have a bipartisan bill. Whats in the bill, to provide border security, did i get to this later than i should have . Perhaps, nothing wrong with saying that, and lay out the fact that this was a strong piece of legislation and call on the republicans to bring it up and consider it, that nothing is perfect, but walking away from this continues to exacerbate the problem at the border. And i think, though, that its not so much that he should i mean, i think he needs to explain to people what hes established. When we say look at all of these things hes accomplished, frankly, look at the polls. People are not feeling that. So i think at the end of the day, this issue of economic security, which also is connected to the border, and his ability to deliver this with, you know, with some strength is what i would be searching if i were in there trying to help him and guide him as to what he should say tomorrow evening. Alencia, facts these days are particularly squishy things, right . If donald trump and his followers have done one thing, it is that they have repeated misrepresentations, outright lies over and over and over again, to the point where they become very very true to them, right. So is this speech more about correcting those mistruths, more about putting the facts out there, for example, john cassidy wrote in the new yorker, you know, the first three years of his presidency,s inflation adjusted gdp averaged 3. 4 . In other words, the widely predicted recession didnt happen. Right. Do you do that . Or is there maybe even a bigger part of it, how he makes you feel when he gives the speech, how he looks, how he sounds, how he presents, where do you find that balance . Yeah, you know, its a tricky balance, but it is something that great president s figured out how to do. They talk about the facts. President biden has been known as the comforter in chief. Let people know he understands the plight theyre going through. Its interesting, you brought up the fact that the republican base, the maga base disputes facts even when there will be polls and research that shows what theyre thinking might be wrong. I think that the president , as he is laying out the facts around the economy. Around the state of the country, around health care and all of these things, hes not speaking to the maga republicans, which he will never persuade to vote for him and support him. Hes talking to those independents. Those moderates, hes talking to even the progressive left, the people who dont know what this white house is doing, and the white house has said, they want to continue to make sure that they are making the case and talking about record achievements. The facts are for people who may not have gone to the web site, white house. Gov or heard the president speak or Vice President speak, as they were out on the road talking about the policies. You will hear him speaking to that base, and unfortunately, no matter what happens on the maga Republican Side, theyre not going to agree with truth at all. Alencia johnson, governor kasich. Stick around. We have a lot more to talk about. Tomorrow, Rachel Maddow and the whole team will have special coverage of President Bidens state of the Union Address and the republican response. That is tomorrow beginning at 8 00 p. M. Eastern right here on msnbc. 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Talk to your doctor about nurtec today. Get ready for a major escalation in the money wars to fund what will be by far the most expensive president ial race ever. According to the New York Times, Donald Trumps cash stash ravaged by legal bills, was behind a meeting with Billionaire Elon Musk in florida over the weekend. The times cites three people who were briefed on the meeting and spoke on the condition of anonymity. Now, whatever was said, it didnt move musk because today he said he wont be donating to any president ial campaign. President bidens campaign, which is winning right now those money wars is planning what they say will be the most lucrative fundraiser in Democratic Party history, expected to bring in more than 10 million. President s biden, obama, and clinton, together in a room with donors who can get tickets for as little as 250, 100 grand and up if you want a photo with all three. Nbcs Vaughn Hillyard is reporting from west palm beach, florida. Back with us, former governor john kasich, and alencia johnson. What do we know about Trumps Campaign funds and frankly, something we have talked about, and where does it stand with all of these legal bills now weighing him down . Reporter right. Its absolutely cutting into the funds that have been available to the trump allies. Just like at the super pac alone. Already 80 million over the last two years spent by Trump Affiliated Super Pacs to go toward the legalrelated expenses. Thats more than 80 million, and when youre talking about a president ial campaign and the plans ahead, look, you just got 34 weeks until the general election, and of course money is going to be at the forefront of this. I want to let you listen to part of a conversation that trumps cocampaign manager had with my partner on trump, garrett haake. Take a listen. The biggest challenge we have probably is on the money side. I mean, were very confident in our ability to put together the resources with e need to wage an effective, successful campaign. Up to this point, the amount of money ron desantis spent is 150 million. Nikki haley spent in iowa alone, nearly 40 million. We spent 3. So, you know, while money matters, its not going to be a determining factor. Reporter they relatively had to spend very little money in the primary, and it had huge returns. When you look back at 2020, youve got to take into account that bidens campaign and the Affiliated Super Pacs spent more than 1. 6 billion. Compare that to trump and the Affiliated Super Pacs for him, it was just over a billion. In 2020, joe biden out spent him by 600 million, and narrowly beat him in several of the key crucial states. As to elon musk, an Open Question that is not just for him but also mega donors who may have interest in financially helping out donald trump, is whether they not so much support the Actual Campaign apparatus but the likes of elon musk could contribute through Dark Money Super Pac groups without having to reveal he is the one behind those donations. There is that. Okay, governor, look, first of all, you hear elon musk and donald trump in a sentence, and you know, its interesting. But do you see any universe where a trump supporter says, wow, i thought trump was a billionaire, but he doesnt have enough money to pay his legal bills or is it just one more sign for trump voters or maybe even the undecideds, that hes a victim in all of this. Heres the challenge for the campaign. The Republican National committee has now said theyre going to spend money on his legal bills. Think about that. You give money to the Trump Campaign and they use it to pay these lawyers. Its really remarkable and siphons off money that theyre going to need to be able to describe the things that they want to, not just what trumps for but also what joe biden is against. On the biden side of this thing, i think theyre going to remind people of a number of things donald trump said, go back to covid and move forward, and remind people. People have a tendency to forget. Theyre looking at trump in terms of everything was perfect then. I think theyre going to go back and start saying, hey, you thought it was perfect. It wasnt perfect, lets take you back. But then lets move forward. Theyre going to have money to do that. The question is there enough money in the trump coffers. Hes in a little different situation. His people, they are wedded to him. He may not need at much money, but the fact that theyre paying his legal bills, its not only hurtful for him but the other candidates running down ballot. His base is not enough for him to win this election. Correct. Alencia, Jaime Harrison told nbc news, quote, you wont see this happening on the other side, talking about the three president s, you will not see an event with donald trump and george w. Bush, its just not happening. But in addition to the money, and im not discounting a 10 million night over across the street from where i am at radio city music hall. What can an obama or clinton bring to the biden campaign, not to mention someone we havent listed yet. Michelle obama. Everyone wants Michelle Obama to be a surrogate, right, shes so amazing. Utilized some of our amazing voices very early on. I think its a great thing that they are, you know, joining forces together, and not just with President Obama because president clinton, i think that he is actually the voice that can speak to some of those trump supporters, and the way that he is able to have plain speak, very southern. Im from where you are, hes able to relate this a way that a lot of democratic president s havent been able to. It will be very powerful to see the throe of them, not only together, but this is activating some surrogates that speak to key parts of our coalition that may not be listening to President Biden in the same way they would a president barack obama and a president clinton. Governor i want to make one comment on that. I no longer think its effective to put surrogates out there for joe biden. People in this country have to see him being strong. Hes going to make mistakes, hes going to stutter. He has to convince people, he has to, nobody else can do it, that hes fit for the job for four more years. I appreciate what shes saying, and those are powerful names to get out there and talk to their base. I think what people wonder about is this man capable of four more years at his age, and so i think that keeping him in the rose garden and the basement and thinking this will all work out, i dont agree with that. If hes going to be efgtive, he needs to communicate a strong message about where we are, what he has achieved. Not all of this everything is great. That wont work. People dont think that right now. He need to have a good line about how much he communicates about how much he has achieved and how much more there is to go. Thats my sense o. Business Going Forward for the next couple of days. I want to interject quickly, governor kasich. I did not say president President Biden away to allow for obama. You know he can not be every single place in this country that he needs to be. While hes traveling and while hes speaking directly to voters, while the campaign is pushing out videos of him talking about his record, we also need President Obama, president clinton, dr. Biden and so many of these surrogates deployed in the other states. He cant be in ten places at one time. Were just going to shore him up in the places he can be. I hope not. I have one more quick question, governor. Cnbc is reporting that this is going to be a 10. 2 billion Campaign Across all media. 7 billion of that for tv ads. Are we way past the point that it annoys voters than motivates them, as somebody whos ran for president. You say it annoys them. They say that, but you know what, it works. Negative advertising, it can work. And positive advertising can work as well. Two wings o. Bird, negative advertising and positive. You can tell whats not right and say heres what im going to do. I dont worry too much about that. And that kind of number, chris, that gets up there toward the amount of salary that youre making these days you know. Youre not laughing. Anyway. Former governor john kasich, alencia johnson. When i make that, i promise you, ill share the wealth. Okay. Coming up, will the names at the top of the ticket have a trickle down effect. A look at how the trump Biden Rematch could impact candidates down the ballot, next. He ballot. Tourists tourists that turn into scientists. 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Thats walltowall wifi on the xfinity 10g network. A trump Biden Rematch has big implications for Down Ballot Races. One crucial battle is in california where republican emlb star steve garvey advanced in a hotly contested race against adam schiff. Garvey says hes voted for trump twice but has not decided to who endorse for president in 2024. Julie tsirkin is live on exhale, and joining but Washington Post editor phil rut ker, and michael madrid, former political director of the California Republican party. That statement, im until the sure who im going to vote for sound like someone who understands that the registration for voters in california is double for democrats what it is for republicans. Theres a 21 advantage. And even equivocating isnt going to get you far as a republican in california in the trump era. Certainly in the trump era. I think youre going to see steve garvey very very closely aligned with donald trump, whether he wants to be or not. Look, this was steve garveys moment, as high as his vote threshold is going to get. Youre going to see democrats consolidate quickly, and theres a clear ride to adam schiff becoming the next senator from the golden state. Talk about adam schiff. Lets say this is a close race, and i think most people are in the same boat as mike is, which is that just even given the history of california and voter registration, you could just sort of put it away right now. Is california one of those states where, for example, they would like a visit by joe biden . Yeah, chris, of course. You know, i think, you know, even though we look to california and we just assume its going to be a democratic wave across that state in november, you know, turnout is important. Enthusiasm is important. Engagement is important. And so i think California Democrats would love the president s help with that, and the Vice President who of course was the senator from california and the Attorney General before that. This matters even more in some of those House Districts. Even though it looks like adam schiff will have a run away advantage in a statewide senate contest, there are a number of House Districts in california that are much more competitive, and where some National Star power from the president or from other National Democrats could really help make up some margins and help boost the local democrats in those further Down Ballot Races. Thats one of the things we learned, what was it, four years ago, mike, just how many swing districts. People assume, new york, california. When youre looking at a house where all the democrats have to do is swing four seats over to their side, every single house seat counts. Is this also a place where they would want donald trump to come or stay away . I dont think donald trump plays in very many places all together too well. There are Six Competitive house seats that could essentially go either way. Might throw seven, if you hold ken calverts seat. This is a place where biden would be much more welcomed than donald trump. I think the narrative around donald trump just landing in california, the protests you would see just arriving here would set the wrong stage for moderate independent voters that are crucial in the six swing seats. Look, orange county, if i was joe bidens people, i would put them in orange county. Put them in the competitive Battle Ground states, raise a lot of money, which california is known for. This is a blue state. May be becoming marginalliless so, but in most of the six, seven competitive districts, biden carried the districts in traditionally republican areas. You want to see a more energized Democratic Base than rely on swing voters and the best way to do that is to bring the big dog out himself. What are the conversations on the hill right now about the influence this rematch could have on Down Ballot Races . Reporter just a couple of minutes ago, house Speaker Mike Johnson seemed to suggest he believes the path to victory for house republicans, even the vulnerable ones will be on the former president s coat tails. He believes, he said forcefully along with his Leadership Team at a Press Conference that not only do they believe the former president will win again in the rematch to biden but also they will win the house and senate, based on the conversations with your great panel seems like a long shot, especially with the dysfunction we have seen, just to set the scene, they have vulnerable, moderate, front line republicans, im talking about mac molinaro of new york, making the case for not only why they deserve to keep their seats. They talked about the border. That was the key argument they made. They said the former president could positively impact them to get there, which i thought was interesting. On the senate side, you also have a dynamic where we saw mcconnell whos the republican leader, the outgoing leader who has had a lot of issues with the former president , reluctantly endorsed him. He said he would support the nominee. The Leadership Team falling in line. You have a couple of holdouts here. Its important to remember the impact the former president had on the 2020 race when he was on the ballot in terms of control of the senate and the house, in 2022 when he was not on the ballot, but candidates he endorsed were, and this time around, certainly the arms that control the candidates to get on the ballot in the house and senate are keenly aware of the fact, and they are working very hard to put people who are not controversial on the ballot, even though someone like kari lake who i talked to yesterday on capitol hill who has changed and softened her tone is somebody theyre going to have to support in arizona. Certainly a lot of moving pieces here. I expect more and more republicans will follow suit and line up behind the former president. Its interesting she brings up coat tails. I used to live in california. Theres angst as there always is in the Democratic Party. One of the things theyll say is nobody thought donald trump could win. Arnold schwarzenegger could make people under estimate garvey, not necessarily that they think hes going to win, but he could drive enthusiasm on the Republican Side that could have an impact on the house races. Is that a step too far . Yeah, its a step too far. I think its a sign of the desperation. When youre looking for steve garvey for your turnout operation. Frankly, candidly, donald trump has never had coat tails in california, even going backinto 2016, a defection of collegeeducated women, further First Time Ever in the midterms there was no republican member of congress representing orange county. The home of reaganism, the birthplace of richard nixon. Steve garvey is not going to change, that. Dynamic. Theres polling showing hes not winning among dodger fans. And there arent many dodger fans. The dodger fan base is overwhelmingly latino, the largest latino fan base in america. This is not a pro trump environment. This is not where you want to be sending in your maga champions. Thats where the Republican Party is at. Thats all theyve got. There have been no coat tails since donald trump became the nominee in 2016. Hard to see an environment where thats changing. Guys, thank you so much. Julie tsirkin, youre going to stay with us. Coming up. The Alabama State house working to protect those ivf treatments. Could a new bill there up end what has been a successful Talking Point for democrats on the Campaign Trail. On the Campaign Trail music have Heart Failure with unresolved symptoms . It may be time to see the bigger picture. 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I want you to hear from one of the democratic lawmakers who says he will vote for the bill but doesnt believe it goes far enough. Listen. I will support this bill because i feel like our families here need to have immediate relief, but its like putting a bandaid on a Hemorrhaging Wound when were talking about refusing to address the actual constitutional crisis that we have created for ourselves right here in this building. Its not addressing the issue of an embryo is not a child. So if we still have a conflict, its trying to make two things that are Incon Grewous and force them together. Like trying to put a square peg in a round hole. Reporter we do expect this measure to pass with overwhelming bipartisan support, but the democratic lawmakers im talking to are worried this is just a stopgap measure. It will put clinics in a position to restart ivf services, which has been on pause for weeks. But it does not address the fundamental piece of the ruling saying that embryos and the constitutional amendment that was passed in the state in 2018, granting fetal personhood. So that has been left untouched by this bill, and a lot of folks are worried that its going to be come back around and be an issue that continues to be problematic for families and for doctors here. Chris. And obviously theres the politics of this. You spent six years, i think, at the National Office for planned parenthood. Abortion, and now ivf have been successful issues for democrats, though if you look at the exit polls thats been eclipsed by immigration. Chuck todd was saying in the last hour, he thinks this is the one issue that could drive november. First of all, do you agree with that, and how do democrats frame it in a way that whatever is happening retains the urgency of the thread . Absolutely. I wholeheartedly agree. I have been saying this sinces Dobbs Decision came down, this would be an issue that carries democrats over the line. We have seen it even in very red states. I agree with the elected official that you showed the comments this is a mandate over the existential crisis, the wound that the Republican Party and the Extreme Hard Evangelical right has created around the conversation around abortion and agency over a womans body. All of these decisions should be between a woman, her family and her medical doctor who have been trained in all of this. This should not be legislated by politicians and they should get out. You understand they provide immediate relief for families, theres still this bigger question of why have they gone so far, the republicans have gone so far, and if you scale back a bit and look at the federal conversation around this, i mean, we saw a republican senator block a unanimous vote to push through federal regulations around ivf to protect this service for families, and so its going to continue to drive democrats and supporters of Abortion Access and reproductive access to the polls and it will be the issue that gets us over the line in november. Up next, new charges against a powerful democratic senator. Why bob menendez now faces another round of charges. Youre watching Chris Jansing reports only on msnbc. Ching cg reports only on msnbc [dog whimpers] [thinking] why always the couch . Does he need to go to puppy school . Get his little Puppy Diploma . How much have i been spending on this little guy . When your questions about life turn into questions about money. 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Obviously thats not an accident. And basically its exactly as you laid out, chris, theres a scheme here that prosecutors say that they undertook, that when they were confronted or at least they became aware of the federal criminal investigation, and the day here or senator me mendez and when they became aware of the investigation, they started writing checks back, and calling it repayment for loans. Prosecutors say thats not true at all, and on top of that, you told your attorney certain things they presented to us, and you showed us check images of payments when, in fact, they were never loans at all, but repayment for prescribes. Now uribe is saying that as well. Youve got a case that already appeared obviously Senator Menendez and his wife would disagree with that, but appeared to be quite strong has now gotten quite a bit stronger through uribe. Senator menendez and his wife will be back in court to enter a plea, presumably not guilty on the latest charges, the Obstruction Of Justice related charges and well continue to track the case there. The trial expected to begin in just a couple of months from now. Tom winter, thank you very much. Weve got breaking news. Fulton county d. A. Fani willis just spoke after a republicanled hearing to investigate Misconduct Allegations against her. Nbcs Blayne Alexander is following this for us in atlanta. You laid this out a little earlier in the show about this hearing. Not legal but political. What happened when fani willis came around . Reporter well, this is very interesting, chris. Its a very busy day at the Georgia State capitol. Theres qualifying for reelection going on in the same building. Fani willis came to qualify for reelection. Thats when she spoke to reporters, and of course she was asked about this very committee meeting. She said that the whole thing was a political quest. I want to read you what she said. I think people are angry because im going to do the right thing, and stand up for justice, no matter who is the person who did wrong in Fulton County. If she is called before the committee, would she appear. That is something she would talk with her lawyer about. Thats an important point, chris, earlier today, the chairman of the Committee Told me they do at some point believe they want to hear from fani willis, and if she doesnt come voluntarily, they would certainly support an subpoena. At the Fulton County courthouse, whether or not judge scott mcafee will remove her from the trump interference case. She didnt want to comment on that. Shes hopeful the judge will make a decision that is in line with the law. This is certainly notable because these are her first comments since the hearing took place this morning, and we believe these were her first comments since she took the stand in surprising fashion three weeks ago, talking about this the committee and calling it politically motivated. More breaking news, Mitch Mcconnell at the capitol after endorses donald trump. He was always, he said, going to endorse the partys nominee. Now he is the presumptive nominee. But he says he will not endorse any of the people who are running to replace him as leader of the senate on the Republican Side, so dont be waiting for that. Thats going to do it for us this hour. Stay tuned tonight for Msnbc Special Coverage of whats shaping up to be the long e general election in president ial history. Thats tonight, 8 00 p. M. Eastern here on msnbc. And of course join us for Chris Jansing reports, every weekday, 1 00 to 3 00 p. M. Eastern. Our coverage continues right this short break. Ak psoriasis. 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