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My daughter is missing. I had this sickening feeling. Im looking at a desperate man, anything can happen. I wouldve never been able to tell my daughter, your monster, your bogeyman, we will pull up beside you instead of him coming to help you. Come to harm you. Inside the shed there was a green purse theres also a large rock saturated and dry blood. This is not a good sign at all. It is not. Ever been hit in the chest with a sledgehammer, thats about what it feels like. She began coming to and trying to fight, she was trying to turn Emergency Lights on, grabbing the radio, anything she could do. Because she knew, she knew. It was a saturday night, summer, and they were so happy at the Bachelorette Party as they laughed and danced and played their drinking games. Outside in the dark, watchful waiting, hidden its clever disguise, death cruised by. Looking for one of them. All around, the peaceful town tucked into sleep, no ghost, no one to warn them that evil had fooled their defenses and slipped inside to its prey. This is the place here in the wide handsome desert of oregon, the small city of band. And i know occupant of every list of the best places to live in america. Its a nice place to live, i love it here, its perfect. Outdoor recreation heaven on the slopes of the cascade range, rife with rivers and lakes, and rugged mountains. Everything here is about outdoors, connection. And it was home to a beautiful young woman named kayleigh sawyer. This is kayleighs mother, julie. She was probably 17. And she said to me, mom, when people describe me, i want them to describe me as smart and strong and funny. And she was. Yes, and feisty and fearless. Her best friend Naomi Sleep Over buddy and cheerleading partner. I love kayleigh so much, but shes not the most coordinate a person there was, we were probably the best on our team the squad because our communication, we didnt need to speak. We could communicate each other just by looking. I wouldnt really call her a tomboy, i would really call her a girly girl. Somewhere in between. She could look like a model one minute and the scrubby clothes and ready go camping the next. She called her grandmother papa doug, here with Grandma Cheri she was our sunshine, she was just our world. Did you worry about her as a teenager . She had family around. So my worry was, if she left bend, oh my goodness, what if my kayleigh goes up to portland . She wont have a Grandma Sharon there. Well have to move. Well have to go and be with her. That was my worry. That she wouldnt be in bend. Mind you, kayleigh was on her own, it was living with her boyfriend a, young man named cam. I could tell that the moment Kayleigh Met Cam that this was a Good Relationship for her. I could see that she was happy. Cameron and kayleigh loved each other. We were looking they would probably be getting engaged before too long. They were a beautiful couple together, they involved themselves with family, if we had a Family Dinner and everybody knew kayleigh and cam were coming, then it became a holiday. Just kayleigh and cam are coming. Now, if you just figure out what to do with her life. She was going to be a plastic surgeon, shes going to be a policeman, shes going to be a chef, shes gonna be a photographer. The world was hers. She didnt pick one thing. No, but this year, the year she turned 23, that was changing. She held a job for two full years now as a dental assistant. She was my work daughter. Shed follow me around to learn how to do things. Because she really wanted to be the best. Lisa castro was her mentor at the dentist office. And she discovered kayleigh had this rare ability to make people laugh. Even when they werent in the mood or scared. If there was a difficult patient, youd put kayleigh in the room and they would just melt. So, those pretty eyes and that smile. And then . Surprise, surprise. Kayleigh was making plans to enroll in college. Now, she knew what she wanted to do. One day she comes into work and says, ive decided, im gonna become a dentist. So both of them had something to look forward to that saturday night, july 23rd, 2016. Lisa was celebrating her upcoming wedding, a Bachelorette Party. It was for her. Kayleigh had already told lisa and her sister jenna, that she couldnt go. Shed be out of town. But, last minute. I got a text from her saying , guess what, im going to show up here to your party to help celebrate you. But im gonna show up a little late. But ill be there. Thats a great thing, when women get together for a Bachelorette Party especially at our age. It was after 8 pm when kayleigh showed up and at a country bar called mavericks. The party was well underway. She came in a little dress and just looked adorable in it. Indeed she did. Here is photos of kaylee at that party, in that black dress. She was kicking up her heels a little bit, right . She was having fun. But when the bachelorette and her party began to run out of steam, kaylee had a friend left to keep things going. And another board that downtown. I checked him out and said, you girls be safe, youre okay right. And, little before 10 30 pm, she walked out into the night. Happy. A little tipsy, altogether, unaware of what was waiting on the other side of midnight. Coming up. A friend of cams texted him and said, your girlfriends here dancing with another guy. Kaylee out for a night of fun, but where would she be when morning came . The very first message that i looked at was from cam saying , have you seen kaylee . Instantly, i had this sickening feeling in my gut. When dateline continues. Heres Charmin Ultra Strong. 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Qunols extra strength, high absorption magnesium helps me get the full benefits of magnesium. Qunol, the brand i trust. It was late afternoon, sunday, july 24, the day after the Bachelorette Party. Kaylees mother, julie, was driving home it was late afternoon, sunday, july 24th, the day after the Bachelorette Party. Kaylees mother julie was heading home from a cabin trip. She approached bend at 5 pm, reentered cell phone range. I turned my phone back on and my phone was just pinging and pinging and pinging. And the very first message that i looked at was from cam saying, have you seen kaylee . Have you heard from Kaylee Kaylee . Why would cam be asking her about kaylee . Julies phone tripped over and over. Cam had texted her the same question all day. Youre getting multiple messages. Yeah. Each getting a little more worried . And i called her first. And her phone went to voice mail. Which kaylee let herself Phone Battery go really low. So that wasnt surprising. By then, cameron already tested texted kaylees dad, jamie, as they sat in church. His phone in his pocket kept buzzing. Elbowing him. Whats going on . So, he kind of said, cam doesnt know where kaylee is. Okay. So kaylees dad questioned cam. What did cameron tell you . She went to a Bachelorette Party and they had an argument going home. An argument . It seemed really obvious that she just walked out on the road and probably called a friend to pick her up because she was mad. And that was it. I literally thought, nothing more to it than that. But cam, clearly did. He spent that sunday calling the entire family. Cam called and said, Grandma Sharon, have you heard from kaylee . I said no i havent. Grandma sharon called and said, have you talked to kaylee . Everything is okay, whats going on . I dont even know how many times her phone was going straight to voice mail. I figure she was out with friends, maybe shes ended up staying with them. But the bride to be who said goodnight to that happy young woman was alarmed. Instantly, i had this sickening feeling in my gut. Because thats not kayleigh, she wouldve contacted someone. Or went to someones house. Or whatever. Julie, still driving, trying to comprehend, got a call from cam. Who told her that after the Bachelorette Party, at that other bar, kayleigh had had a few. And was having fun with some other guy. They were dancing. And i guess a friend of cams texted him and said, your girlfriends here dancing with another guy. And so, he went and picked her up. And on the way home they started to argue. Cams story . He parked outside their apartment a little bit after midnight, tempers still hot. He got out of the car, she stayed inside. He told her, come up when youve cooled off. But a few minutes later, out she got, and walked away into the night. It didnt surprise me when he told me that she went for a walk, because she had always done that. When she was younger, and she would get in trouble and i would tell her, you know, you need to go to your room. Chances are, she went to her room and out her window. And shed go for a walk. She had to work it out . She was mad, and you know, she would go for a walk. And that wasnt unusual behavior. Anyway, cam and kaylee lived in a crime free neighborhood, right across the street from the local college. But cam didnt sound so sure of his story. So, where did she go . Why didnt she come back . Why didnt she call anyone . Julie encouraged cam to call police. Which he did, sunday afternoon. Dispatch, how can i help you . Hi, last night i got home for the bars with my girlfriend. She got upset at me and ran off. And i still havent heard from her, her phones off. Okay. Did she pick up walking or something, she was mad . Yeah she walked. She was mad at me. So i walked inside and told her to come and meet me in there she was like, calmed down. And then i went back out in ten minutes, she was gone. And i called a few times, and she said she was walking down the street. Havent heard from her since. As julie neared bend, she worried, would police take it seriously . After all, a grown woman, lovers spat . So julie added a little urgency. And called 911 herself. Dispatch, how can i help you . Yes, i need to have an officer call me. My daughter is missing. And she is over 23. But she has epilepsy and some medical issues. I exaggerated her seizure conditions. When she was younger, she had had seizures. But she hadnt had seizures for a while. But i told them, i was worried about her. How did they react to that . They were concerned about that. They knew that she had been out the night before and she had been drinking, could that have triggered a medical incident . Julie drove straight to the apartment, where she questioned cam. I was frustrated that his story just didnt make sense. And so, i walked out of the apartment and i said, i just needed to go and take a walk and get some fresh air. And while i was out there walking, the officer came and i said to him, i need you to go talk to cam. Because his story doesnt make sense to me. What was going on . And where was Kaylee Sawyer . Coming up. Kaylees mom wasnt the only one troubled by cams story. Did they really have that bad of an argument . Did something bad happened . And what did police think about kaylees sudden disappearance . Did you both agree at that point, something was going on here . Something was off . Yeah, we were talking back and forth, and he said, do we need to get detectives involved, i said yeah, absolutely. When dateline continues. [door bell] [dog barking] theres an easier way to get things smelling just the way you want. Try air wick vibrant. Infused with 2x more natural Essential Oils, to get up to 120 days of amazing full room fragrance per dual pack. Now thats a breath of fresh air wick. 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And Police Officer kyle denny arrived. And park outside the apartment, right across the street from the campus of Central Oregon Community College. Its on one of the more prestigious areas of town, very nice homes. Very safe area, i would think . Very safe. Officer denny was soon joined by Corporal Ericsson plea. Well denny talk to the family, he found that friend, the girl who had seed Kaylee Dancing at the bar. The one who texted cam, better come get her. A little after midnight, kaylee sent a text message to her friend, im home, everything is okay story about earlier tonight. And then her friend tried to call her just before 1 am, and kaylee didnt answer the phone. Did there seem to be any chance that she wouldnt got back to that guy she had met at the Bachelorette Party . Initially, i thought maybe there is a chance. Did you talk to him . I called him on the telephone. Didnt get kaylees phone number. Didnt give his phone number. It was just kind of, hanging out that night, that was the last he knew or saw of her. And that seemed to make sense to you . It did. So, nothing to disprove anything cam had told them. What was your take on camerons story of what happened . It didnt make sense . The story made sense, it made absolute sense. Officer denny took julie side to address concerns about cam. He was able to come and tell me, its not that his story has changed, his story is evolving, hes remembering things. I think that he, very early on, took on the guilt and the responsibility that if something did happen to her, that maybe it was his fault. I think it was hard for him to retell that story. With me thinking, why didnt you protect her . Why did you just leave her in the car when you guys were arguing . Why do you let go later go off in the night alone . But i never felt that he was involved in harming her. Then, officer denny assembled the family and ask them a question. I said hey, is there anywhere that you would think that you she might be . And i said the motivation to start looking at places where she could be if she was trying to cool off . I remember going up to the campus, and walking the route we were told or assumed that she might have walked that night. A terrifying thing to do, said pompeo. We didnt know where whether we were looking for a body, parts of clothing, a purse. So you are worried something pretty bad had happened . Yes. Petrified. Terrified. I wanted to stay home and i wanted to be there, because, maybe shed come home. Maybe shed come home, maybe should call, let you know . My husband went out and looked for her. We were praying that hed find her. That shes safe. But in a way, you know that somethings wrong. I was praying that he didnt find her. Because i didnt want him to have to find her if somebody had hurt her. Now, for the two officers, a judgment call. She was a grown woman, who was missing, but she had a right to be somewhere else. There was no evidence of foul play. But. Did you both agree at that point, something was going on here . Something was off . We were talking back and forth, do you need to get the detectives in law involved . I said yes, absolutely. Overnight, the first over missing person flyer went out. Law enforcement around Central Oregon. And the next morning, everyone held their breath. Hoping kaylee would simply show up for work at the dentists office. And then theyd all breathe again. I drove in, walked into her workplace and i looked at me and their faces just showed me but they were already thinking. I asked, if hes called in . They just shook their heads. It was heartbreaking, no one could talk. There was just a lot of tears. Thats when you knew . Thats when i knew something. And still didnt want to accept it. She was truly missing. And then, a few hours later, 20 miles up the road from bend, in redmon, oregon a Police Detective named eric bennett with got up to his desk. I got to my car and walk through my lobby, and saw isabelle ponce. Who is that . She is someone that we knew in redmond. She was a Police Officer recruit and a redmond resident. She seemed to be waiting for something. Curious. He walked on, back to his office, sat down. No idea what was about to worm its ugly way into his world. Coming up. A worried wife with a wild story. Shes crying. Shes crying. Uncontrollably. We knew we had a big problem. And reality sinks in. Ever been hit in the chest with a sledgehammer . Thats about what it feels like. When dateline continues. So ask your vet about nexgard® plus. Its oneanddone monthly protection from fleas and ticks. Plus heartworm disease, roundworms, and hookworms. All in a delicious, beefflavoured, soft chew. Use with caution in dogs with a history of seizures or neurologic disorders. 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Going on noon, 20 miles north, at the Redmond Police department. A newly minted bend Police Officer, isabelle ponce, sitting calmly on a chair as if waiting for something. Odd. It struck me as unusual. But i didnt approach her or strike up a conversation, just went into the office. Unwrapped his lunch, prepared to dug in. When a colleague appeared at his door. He had asked me if i had any idea why should be in the office . She had called and requested to talk to a Watch Commander or a supervisor of some kind. You had no idea . No idea. And then . And then i saw Sergeant Duff bring in her into his office. Just a short amount of time after that, the sergeant opened his door, and yelled down the hall for me to come into his office. Of course, he rushed in there. And right into the biggest, most shocking case of his life. Though at first, it was just puzzling. Describe the scene to me. Shes crying. Shes crying uncontrollably. Could you tell what was going on . I know we had a big problem, it never wouldve anticipated how big of a problem we had. There had been an accident, she got out through her tears. Or at least, her husband said hed had been an accident, said he hit someone with his car. And it must have been missing girl who had been showing on tv , Kaylee Sawyer. Did that name, Kaylee Sawyer mean anything to you . It did. When i arrived to work on that monday, i notice that bend pd had put on a Missing Persons flyer, and were requesting other agencies for any information would be on the lookout for her. I knew right away what she he was talking about. Isabelle said her husband was a Security Guard at Central Oregon Community College, and something must have happened there late saturday. Because, she said, he seemed kind of distant all day sunday. Like here. When they went to the movies. This picked up by a surveillance camera. And then, Monday Morning he comes out of the room, and his eyes were all teary. Thats when i was like, what happened . Tell me what happened . Whats wrong . And hes like i hit her with the car. And which car . The security, the car, the one they use at the job. And what did you say to that . So im like, what do you mean . What do you mean you hit her . And hes like, yeah, i hit her in a panic. All he said he hit her, and he panicked. He never said it wasnt making any sense to me, because like, why would somebody hit somebody and then do that. Especially you . Especially him . Like, it doesnt make any sense. Didnt make sense because her husband was a good man. Had a degree in Criminal Justice. Was in training to be a cop. And then he told her that awful confusing story. And just got in his car, told him he was gonna make a run for it, and fled. Ran away. How long to this conversation go on before he left . It was pretty brief. It was just him moving around, im not sure if he, i dont think he grabbed anything. Other than, he did grab my gun from my purse. And then he just kept saying, i need to go, i need to go. What did you think when you heard all these things . I thought we had a significant problem. We had a gentleman who, now known, who was a member of the campus public safety, whose wife was Police Recruit who was potentially armed, would have some knowledge of the way Police Initiate an investigation. So, now on the run, he knew that police would do. But it seemed like isabelle was being rather vague about him. We had very Little Information about who we was and what his background was. So . Almost alarmingly, we didnt know much about him. More importantly, where he was now . Only place that she thinks he would be traveling southbound, from Central Oregon. To his grandfathers place in los angeles. Right away, he issued a b. O. L. O. , be on the lookout. And a silver Nissan Altima he was believed to be driving. And then he activated the Major Crimes Team, called in dozens of investigators in town and out. Among those responding, this sheriff who had his own questions about the Story Isabelle reported about her husband. He had told his wife this crazy tale, which might or might not be true. There are a lot of things left out as far as details that we needed to know, Law Enforcement wise, like how did it happen . Where is she now . Where is kaylee, that is . Was she lying in some ditch, badly hurt . What exactly did this man do to her . And how big a head start did he have . After all, isabelle hadnt seemed to be in a really rush to report any of this, driving from their home eight minutes away from the Police Department , then waiting for who knows how long just sitting in the office, waiting to speak to a sergeant. She couldve been on the phone and let people know in a heartbeat . You just told me this, hes on the road, get him. She didnt. She did not. Theres an unknown period of time in between his confession to her from when the actual report took place. It couldve been a half hour, 45 minutes, however, it couldve also been an hour and a half, two hours. We just dont know. Youre on a man hunt now . We are. Our goal was this, we are going to hunt for edwin enoch laura, as quickly and as fiercely as we can, so we can a, potentially locate kayleigh alive and b, if we cant, we can find her and we can stop anyone else from being hurt. And so began one of the largest manhunts in oregon history. But, not so easy to find a man who doesnt want to be found. Or to know what that man might do next. Coming up. A mothers nightmare. You hear about news stories about people stealing young women, now, im gonna have to search for her being a sex slave. When dateline continues. Po, you have never faced anything like this. The chameleon is the power of all my old nemesis. [ chuckling ] nemesi. Nemesi . We have to get an army of the best crooks and criminals. Oh, youre adorable. Violence makes our tummies tingle its disturbing. But its awesome. 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Or was kelly still alive injured, or alive and captive of an Armed And Dangerous fugitive . But having told them what she can to say, isabelle was no longer much help. I dont think he has a plan. I dont think you know, i think youre right. I dont think you. Does the jumping his phone . We paying this phone. We initially paying the eagle. Chris reporter Eagle Crescent is, or about ten minutes away from bregman. It must have been a false signal, did not pan out, so we really did not have a good idea of where he was, where he might go. Reporter none of this of course could be shared with katies family, not yet. Not even with her mother julie, who was conducting a search of her own. My best friend and i went and made missing posters and started distributing those all throughout bend. Panicking already . Yeah, and the whole time that youre doing this, youre checking your cellphone. Youre calling herself phone. The part was hard, sometimes she would call, and it would go straight to voice mail. Sometimes, she would call, and it would during. So, you would think, oh, my gosh, this you turn the phone on . But nobody ever answered. Did you think that she maybe had been kidnapped or something . When i heard she had gone for a walk, you hear about news stories about people stealing young women, and you know. Shes a blond, goodlooking young woman, you never know. Yeah, now, i will have to search for her being a sex slave. Its pretty an awful thing to contemplate. Its a very awful thing. We knew how hard the family was searching for kayleigh, how many friends and relatives of people were out looking for her. That was weighing on my mind and other investigators, as well. The major crime scene was growing by the hour. The County District attorney, john hummel. This was full on, every men and women in every Law Enforcement agency in shoots needed to find haley because we tasha she may still be alive. Edwin laura was the key. So, again, they asked his, wife workers to be . If you ask or whether he knew other people around town, that he might hide with or Something Like that . Yes, i did. She told me that there would be no place for him to go in town or close or anywhere in oregon for that matter. Reporter no place at, all she said. No family to run too. No one. And then a bit later, one of the investigators remembered something, laura did in fact have family in the area. Police had once arrested his stepfather, and that is how the investigator knew that the stepfather lit five minutes when the Police Department, and also, only five minutes from his house. What do you know . His wife, the Police Officer, basically that you away from that. She definitely did not lead us directly to the place thats for sure. Reporter there, lo and behold, just two blocks from his parents, awesome detectives found ed winds getaway car, his 2008 Nissan Altima, abandoned. The swat team was assembled, went to his parents door. Was he at his parents house . He was not as parents else. Reporter and from the parents . There was not much detail, if any, only that he had come by, that he had asked for some money. They had no idea where he was, where he had gone, that there was any trouble at all . That was the initial interview. They gave no credible information. Did they tell the officer that they had given him a car to use . No. That does not its typical, but no it does not. Reporter maybe there would be something in the house, some clue to what made him tick, where he might have gone. Detective pick off and got a search warrant, headed over there, went inside, but nothing could have prepared him for what he would discover, nothing at all. Coming up two discoveries at lauras home, one, surprising. There were friends were in on certain pages, certain scripts. Reporter the other, horrifying this is not a good sign of. All it is not. 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Dont wait, call and switch today two massive searches were in full force across Central Oregon late that monday in july 2016. In neither case did the searchers have all the facts. Two massive searches were in full force across Central Oregon. Late that monday in july 2016. In either case did the searchers have all the facts. Kaylee sawyer and her family got word out however they could. Posters, facebook. Within less than 24 hours, there was 10,000 shares of kayleigh being missing. There wasnt a spot in downtown bend, or redmond that you could go that you did not see kayleighs missing picture. We had people call and say, i canceled everything for the week, what do you need . Kaylees family did not know with this Police Officer had told detectives. He said Something Like, he hitter with a car, and then he panicked. Did not know that this Security Company car with the missing flyer attached was the very one edwin laura was driving when, as he told his wife, he ran into kayleigh. But, was she dead or alive . It was almost certainly a race against time. I was holding on to hope, and every officer was holding on to hope, that she might be clinging to life. And if we could find her, we could bring her back from the point of no return. And, as they search for her, they searched also for him. For answers. Detective struggle to contain is outrage that a the Security Guard a Central Oregon Community College, i want to be cop, would cut and run. How do you wrap your mind around that, that somebody in that level of trust will do such a thing . I dont think you can wrap your mind away around that. By now, the Major Crimes Team had grown to more than 30 investigators. One of whom was detective james mclaughlin, about to be sent to conduct a search of of edwin lauras home. I would like to see what makes this person take. And it just happened, coincidence really, that mclaughlin was a former pastor, which was about to matter. A lot. We go through the house, and im immediately drawn to a music room, where there are pictures of edwin and isabel inside. Various musical instruments. They found youtube videos. Lara singing love songs, but also evidence that lara was a member of his churchs worship group. And here, on lauras bedside table, was a well worn bible. You preach from the bible . I have. So you know what it looks like . There were things written on certain pages, certain scriptures, so i believed, at this point, this is one of the focal points of his life. When the detective found evidence in a note, lara that was tithing, giving 10 of his income to the church, he began thinking ahead. What did you think as you were looking at that bible . Are you seeing that hes clearly, highly engaged in his religion and his could middlemen to it . As my first thought is, im here for some kind of reason, and i believe that, unless this is a complete farce, but theres a hook there. And im looking for a hook for that house, i want to hook. If theres anybody who could use that hook, its you. And i believe that. That was my initial thought. I can use this. Hes feeling Something Else, and im just wondering with that Something Else is. Maybe that funded in the backyard shed. Isabelle had told detectives, edwin lara had left some things there. What it reveal anything about what happened . Forward kayleigh was . Mclaughlin opened the door. And this did not look good. What did you find in there . Inside the shed, there was a trash bag. Inside that trash bag, there was a green purse. That green purse had a large amount of blood stain on it. Inside the purse, kayleigh sawyers passport. There were the shoes shed put on before the Bachelorette Party, saturday night. But then, there it was. Like a punch in the gut. Theres also a large rock, that was very sharp. Half of it at least was saturated in dry blood. A murder weapon. Had to be. This is not a good sign at all. It is not. Kaylee sawyer was not a victim of a hit and run. No. It was much more than that. And in that moment, faint hope died. I believe that she was dead. This was a murder. This wasnt in the accident. This was definitely not an accident. It was definitely a murder. But if that wasnt horrifying enough, there was one more thing in that shed. This it was a post support for a Criminal Justice class, lara had taken, at the Community College. A project on Serial Killers. He had a fascination with Serial Killers. So, naturally, you ask, why . Are you a Serial Killer . And if that was a real question, then what were your fears of what could happen . I had very real fear is that he was going to adopt, and that he was going to harm someone else. I knew he had a firearm. I knew, clearly, at this point in time, this man is willing to commit murder. This man is willing to do heinous, unspeakable things. Monday evening, late now, 48 hours after Kaylee Sawyer vanished, kaylees Friends And Family Had Scour The Streets around bend, oregon, and found no sign of her. Anywhere. I told my husband im not stupid. I know shes not with us anymore. About five minutes later, there was a knock on the door. Thats when they told her what theyd found, that kayleigh was dead. And the Guy Named Edwin Lara was on the run. Now, detectives worried what or who was next. Im looking at a desperate man, and anything can happen, at this point in time, is my thought. Anything can happen. Oh, it would. 9 pm, 130 miles northwest of bend, in the capital city of salem, oregon, a 19 year old sales woman named, andrea mays was walking to her car, tired, at the end of a double shift at the roth dress for less. They were supposed to leave in the middle of the afternoon, but has decided to stay in cover shift. As she got in the car, she got on her phone and snap to selfie. It was just a long day, it was on my snapchat, i just took a picture of working a double shift. Thats when she saw it. I just saw, in the corner of my eye reaching into her window. Thats when he unlocked the door, sat in the car really fast and he had a big backpack with him. He had a gun, just pointing it at me. She flinched, had to be a prank, she thought. I was really confused because, at first, i thought it was someone i knew. Then she saw this wild look. It just happened also fast. Then i saw his face, and said, what do you doing . Then he started yelling at me. Where was the gun . It was in between him and his backpack. He just had his backpack on his lap, and he had his gun hiding it, putting it at me. What did he say about the gun . He didnt say anything. He kept it, pointing at me. Until i started driving. Then, he started laughing. It had to be a prank. Thats when he got really upset. And he put the gun on my thigh. And he had told me, he said, do you think this is a game . Do you think this is a joke . I will shoot you. Im not kidding. That was before she lost her mind. What did it feel like . Just this whole part of my face, into my ears. Was numb and burning and hot. And red. And i remember i was just gripping the Steering Wheel so hard. I was not even crying at this point, because it was just so unreal to me. Coming up andreas terrifying journey is just beginning. It kind of felt like, im not going to go home. Theyre going to find the body. In a ditch somewhere. Or find me dead in a motel. But she does not get scared. Instead, she gets mad. A couple of times i thought, i could probably just put the head cuts around his neck. And maybe he could pass out. Or something. To give me enough time to run. When dateline continues n d police now believed that Kaylee Sawyer had been murdered, and they were in hot pursuit of their prime suspect, edwin laura, he was more than 100 miles up the road and desperate. Laura kidnapped teenager andrea, and forced her to start driving. He told her he killed a girl in bend. Made her look as she scrolled first stories of kayleigh on the phone. How did you not become hysterical . I dont know. In my head, i just kept thinking, it will end soon, maybe hell just leave or maybe hell just find another car. She thought about her friend, which never see them again . Was he going to kill her . And then somehow, it occurred to her, her car had an oil leak, if she made him believe it was worse than it was. Would he let her go . I kept telling him, were not gonna make it. You need to find another car, somebody else. Because i cannot help you. And he kept telling me, we will figure it out. We will just keep adding oil. And so they did, stopped at a service station. And then, a mcdonalds. Where he held her at gunpoint while he bought food. It was the most frustrating feeling ever, knowing that i probably talked to maybe five people while he had me captive and nobody even suspected a thing. Were you trying to make them understand what was going on . I wanted to, but he had told me that he if i made eye contact with anyone, he would shoot them, he would shoot me, that he didnt care, he had nothing to lose. And so, again, she drove. He held the gun. A strange thing happened. There was a couple of times where i really thought that i wasnt gonna go home ever, i was not gonna see my family. So when i would feel like that, in those times, i would just being in and i dont care attitude. I would snap at him, i would say things. Instead of crying, and getting terribly upset. You would get mad . Yeah. It kind of felt like that, i am probably not going to go home, im probably not going to see anybody again, theyre probably gonna find my body in a ditch somewhere, or find me dead in a motel or something. And sure enough, 90 miles down the interstate, he told, her, we are stopping. They pulled up to a motel, to relax in. Here he is on Surveillance Video keeping an eye on her while he checks in. Once inside the room, he handcuffed her, he took a shower, and told her now it is your turn. In my head, i thought, id rather die than shower in front of you. I told him, i dont care what you do to me at this point because that would be worse than dying, its the shower in front of you. I would rather die. What did you do . Did you ever think, maybe i can make a break for it while hes in the shower . Its kind of silly of me, ive watched criminal minds, law in order, they are my favorite shows, i was handcuffed the whole time so a couple of times i thought, i could probably just put the handcuffs around his neck and, you know maybe make him pass out or something to give me enough time to run, or drive away. But then the thoughts would come into my head, well, it would go really bad if im not Strong Enough to do that and hes the one with the gun. He moved her, handcuffed her to the bed, forced her to take a sleeping pill, put his face down beside hers. I was freaking out, because i had never been put in a position like that. I didnt know what to do. He was, she knew, about to rape her. And just then, the alarm on her phone went off. I dont even know what that alarm was for, but that alarm probably saved my life because he saw it and was like, whats this, what does that mean . And then, i dont know where i got the idea but i was like that is my timer, i have to take medicine every day. He was like, for what . And he said. I have an std. I said, i have an std, and ive been living with, it and i had to take medicine every day. She didnt, but. Did you think if i tell him that he wont want to rape me . Yeah. You were right yeah. Then, the killers phone rang, it was someone from his family saying that the cops were after him. He put on a bulletproof vest, announced that they were leaving. And as andreas car spotted on the highway, in the pitch dark, far from any town or help. Laura frightened her with a fake story that he came from a family of rapists and murders, known criminals. He had started telling me that were going to los angeles, that he has family there. I was just thinking 1 million things, like, im gonna be put through Sex Trafficking or im going to be sold to somebody, i have no idea what hes planning to do, maybe just kill me at the end. I didnt think i was going to live another day. I did not think i was gonna see the moon that night. And, oh, it would get worse. Though, when it did. I did not see anything. Just my whole head went black. Coming up, a shooting. A gun just went off. Another kidnapping. Hes, like you just need to drive. You just need to get me out of here. 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He told me, we are going to have to get a new car, this one is not going to make it. 5 am, lara pulled off the road in yreka, california, at this super eight motel, where he saw Man Unloading his car, checking into his room. He grabbed aundreah, drag her along, and burst in on the man. Thats when it happened. The guy was like, you have the wrong room, you need to leave. And edwin is like, we just need your car, were not gonna hurt you, we just need to get out of here. The guy was like, no, help, help. And what happened . Thats when he told him to stop yelling and he told him if he didnt stop, he would kill him. And he just kept yelling for help, and the gun just went off, and everything just one black in my head. The man clutched his stomach, went down. All i remember was my ears ringing really loud, and i was just being pulled out the room. They ran, Lara Pulling Aundreah with him. And im just thinking, i just saw him shoot someone in in front of me, what is to stop him from shooting me in the back on the way to the car . I was just scared. I didnt know what to do. All i saw ahead of me was the gas station, and thats where he was running to. Here, the mobil station, somebody was gassing up. In the car, an older woman and two young men, one behind the wheel. Laura jumped in, aundrea was pulled in too. He was like. You just need to drive. He had the gun out . He was pointed at the driver at the time. He slammed the doors, took off, behind him someone called 911 and emts arrived just in time to save the life of the man lara shot. In the car, the older woman was hysterical. She just couldnt understand what was going, on i mean, who would . Lara took their cell phones, Made Aundreah throw them out the window. I was just trying to throw them as hard as i could to the grass, to make sure that they wouldnt break to make sure that they could pinpoint where we are going or something. And then, 30 miles down the road, he suddenly stopped. And hes like, you guys, just all get out. That is, all but andrea, who saw that at least one of them had a cell phone. It was one of the boys, who was smart enough to keep it. Out of the car, the boy called 911 while lara, unaware of what the boy was doing, kept driving. He was going like 120 at the time now, and he was just zooming in and out of cars, honking at people, just driving recklessly. So, how did you understand that somebody was following you . I didnt. It was just him that kept saying, oh, theres a helicopter, its following me, they know where im going. I think he was just paranoid. Did you see the helicopter . I didnt. A couple of times he could even hear it, i guess. He would tell me, do you hear it, where is the helicopter . I would look, and there was nothing there. Paranoid. But before long, they heard the sirens. Saw the Highway Patrol cars behind them. Heres the dash cam video. But even then, screaming down the freeway, lara made phone calls to his family, and recorded this, on the phone of aundreah. Hi, everybody, i just want to say that i apologize for everything ive done. Most likely, im going to get caught. And i am sorry about that girl, about that girl in Central Oregon. [inaudible] Family Members, there aundreah, shes fine and she will be fine. So far, shes been doing what ive been telling her to do. If you guys are wondering if ive done dirty things to her, no, im not that kind of guy. I just feel that other girl, you know . I regret it. I regret killing her. She kept screaming and i had to silence her forever. Tell the cops not to shoot us. If they shoot us thats not my fault. Im sorry, everybody. Bye. And just here, aundrea made the last in a series of remarkable decisions. Decisions that very likely saved her life, and certainly saved her family anguish. He wanted me to post that to my facebook, and share it with everybody. I remember, i think, he had me caption it, crazy murderer on the loose, or something to that effect. I kept telling him, i have a lot of people i dont want to see this, because he did record me in that video a couple times. I didnt want teachers, or pastors, friends, and people to see that. It would be terrifying for you. So vulnerable, yeah. So i just change the setting on the post to just only me to see it. It look like it really did post, but only i could see it. He was threatening to kill me if i didnt post it. It was at this very moment, 6 40 am, when edwin lara called 911. 911, emergency, recording. Yes, hi, this is edwin lara. Im the guy at interstate five, going a highspeed. I just want to say, im gonna turn myself in. The dispatcher tried to understand. Are you by yourself . No, i have someone with me. I kidnapped her in oregon. Shes innocent. Her name is aundreah. Whats her last name . Ill let her give her last name, so you could tell her family. Hello. Yeah, hi, whats your name . Aundreah. Are you hurt at all . No. Then, sounding a little sorry for himself, lara started bargaining. I want to ask you a favor. Yes. So i have asthma. Okay. So tell them not to be too rough on me, because i can hardly breathe right now. I can throw my gun out of the window right now . No. Dont do that right now. I just want you to stop gracefully. Or i could give it to aundreah. No. Finally, just before 7 am dont keep them chasing. Pull over. I will pull over right now. Okay, ill let you talk to aundreah. Okay. Dont hang up. Im not. Hello . Hi, aundreah. You dont need any medical or anything . No. Is he stopping . Yeah. Get your hands up can you see, do they have him in custody already . Theyre putting the cuffs on him right now. Putting the cuffs on him . Im gonna hang up and just get out, and you walk back towards towards them with your hands up okay . Okay. But it still wasnt over for aundreah. She was arrested too, and it was hours before detectives from oregon arrived and explained that aundreah was the innocent one. The victim. And then, two more things happened in this remote California Police station. First, a horrifying story, a confession about what that man did to Kaylee Sawyer. And then, quiet and unnoticed, an extreme complication. Coming up, a brave, young womans battle. They said she began coming to, and trying to fight, she was trying to turn Emergency Lights on. Trying to honk the horn. Do anything that she could do. Because she knew. And an odd request from a killer. It was shocking to me to hear him say that. When dateline continues. Hat. When dateline continues. Emergenc crystals pop and fizz when you throw them back. 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Edwin lara seemed eager to talk to the detectives who just arrived from oregon. We were informed, actually, as we were walking to the jail that hes been asking for you, been waiting for you. The question was what would he say . As the detectives soon learned, a better question might be what wouldnt lara say . My name is sergeant beckwith. I shouldnt introduce myself, because you guys know me. Im sure you guys already know who i am. There is that really, really strong hint of arrogance. And ego behind that statement. And right away, it was obvious, lara seemed to be enjoying his new role as notorious criminal. Well, all i gotta say is that i want to go home. And im gonna do Everything Possible to go home. Yes, sir. And home, meaning oregon . Yes. First things first, the detectives implored, where was Kaylee Sawyer. We have not been able to find kaylees body. Can you please help me find her body, immediately, before we Start Talking about Anything Else . The reason why im asking you that, it is, ive done this a bunch of times. I want to tell you where the body is. And so, edwin lara went to work. Drawing a crude map. This is the 26 highway. Thats going towards salem. He dumped her along a highway, he said, ten miles outside of redmond. There is a mailbox right here, that reads 18 700. Really . 18700 . Isnt that a significant number . Its significant because the California Penal Code for murder or homicide is 187. And just about then, as the detectives were talking to lara, their colleagues back in oregon found the car he had taken from his parents. And the note inside, on which he had written repeatedly, 18700. Had he been toying with them . Playing games . A wanna be cop, who left the call signals a homicide, in and out. Is an address, or is it a message, what the hell is it . That is exactly what we are thinking. That is something that he spent time developing and looking for. It just so happened to fit his desire to hide her body, but hide it in a way that hes not hiding his body of work from the public. He wants it seen, eventually. The detective beckwith got on the phone to oregon. He said, its directly across from the mailbox, on the south side of the highway. They went to look, and just like that its about five minutes after that that we locate kaylee. Heres where she was, a ravine just off the highway. And kayleigh sawyers family got the call they dreaded. Last time i got to kiss my baby girl on the forehead was through a black body bag. We asked when we could see her, identify the body, and they would not let us see her. Their words where you cannot see her because shes unrecognizable. Unrecognizable is the haunting word. How do you accept that . Kaleighs mom couldnt bring herself to visit the morgue. I just knew that if i went, i might climb up on a table with her and not leave. Back in jail with the detectives, lara seemed pleased to have an audience and had decided to reveal more. And worse, like the reason why kaleighs body was unrecognizable. He was in his cruiser, he told them, at Central Oregon Community College. The cruiser that looked just like a real police car, and a uniform that made him look just like a policeman. Along came kayleigh sawyer. After that argument with her boyfriend. I just turned and, i mean, i did not hit her that hard, and i just bumped her with the patrol car. An accident . Thats what he told his wife, isabelle, the morning he left, and what he claimed in the note he left behind in his car. He kind of stuck to that, i hit her with the car story for a little bit. You knew it wasnt true . We knew it wasnt true. And it was easy to get past that. How . Remember, detective mclaughlin, former pastor, had searched laras home the previous day and found his bible, and evidence of his apparent devotion to his church. The hook, he now could see, with this very moment. I was in your house, i saw the bible, i know you thumb through it a lot. I see that youve tithed for months, consecutively. He appealed to lara the way a pastor would, with psalm 24, clean hands and pure heart i said to you clean one hand when you wash your hands or you clean them both . Well both. Okay, now is the time to tell you real story, because what you just said did not happen that way and he begins to describe, to my shock, and quite frankly, terror, listening to the things that he had done. The truth, lara said, when he saw kayleigh that night, he knew she was the one. He had been looking for. And up welled a familiar urge, his urge to kill a beautiful woman. He saw her as a target the moment he laid eyes on her. And so he cruised alongside kayleigh, excited. Stopped, got out of his cruiser, in his cop like uniform, trying extra hard to look safe, hiding his ugly intention. Mr. Lara offered her a ride and she refused. She did not want a ride from him. So i panic and i just grab about the throat and told, or shut up, shut up, shut up. Then she passed out. In his words, he put her in the car. He didnt open the door, she did not get in willingly, he put her there. What did he do to her that . He took her cell phone from her, he told us that he felt a sense of relief when he took the cell phone from her, she was just completely under his control, in a vehicle that she could not escape from. The campus car had a Security Cage in the backseat, just like a real police car. Then, with kayleigh unconscious, he drove up the hill to a secluded parking lot, b12. He said, she began coming to and try to fight, she started to fight through the plexiglass, caged backseat. She was trying to turn Emergency Lights on, trying to grab the radio, trying to honk the horn anything she could do to because she knew. So i grabbed her, like a chokehold. And i was telling her, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. She was just struggling to scream. So i throw her down, and i hit her with a rock on the head. The rock, he saved, and squirreled away like a trophy in his backyard shed. And he decides, at that he does want to sexually assault her, and he sexually assaulted her while she was dying, and drags her up behind a tree and finishes the job with the big 60, 70 pound rock. And thats when i think she died, because i heard her breathing, her last breath. Afterwards, he told them, he felt bad about what he did. She looked like a really nice girl, and she didnt deserve what i did to her. Laras confession continued for six hours. They asked if he wanted to call someone. He said, could i call the media . Like a Press Conference about it . Whats in the heavens name . It was shocking to me to hear him say that. Detectives believed, they had him. Nothing couldve been further from the truth. Coming up, a question from a killer that could hit let him walk free. That had to be a bad day. 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A florida judge held a hearing on friday to consider a new trial date for Donald Trumps classified documents mishandling case. A special counsel jack smith asked for a july start date, but to trump to delay until august or even after the november election. Now back to dateline. November election. Now back to dateline. They had a vigil. On tuesday evening, they had a vigil. From all around bend, people gathered, most of them silent in disbelief. They had planned this in hope, as they searched. During those two days, the whole town seemed to adopt kayleigh sawyer. Bends daughter, they took to calling her. Now, bends daughter was dead, and unbelievably, at the hands of a Security Guard, at the local Community College, edwin lara. The sort of thing that gives a cop nightmares. I can imagine meeting my own kid, my own daughter, just at walking and to have somebody stop, and her dads a cop, and she might associate that with being someone of safety and security and trust, and in a moment like that, he takes it all from her, using what hes wearing. Its disgusting. Its also very unsettling. Its unsettling as it gets. You have to wonder a lot, what would possess him to be so apparently, devoutly religious, and to want to be a cop and want to be an upstanding member of society, but at the same time, he had this stuff going on. I still wonder about that, to this day. For him to go from no criminal history to the most severe criminal history in a matter of three days, was alarming and is still alarming to me. So, what to do with a man like edwin lara, now charged with aggravated murder and kidnapping, and other crimes. It was the da, John Humbles Job to decide. If the facts, in this case, did not warrant a sentence of death, then i, in essence, wouldve been saying that no crime, ever, would be appropriate for the Death Penalty. I decided to ask the jury to impose the sentence of death. And so, they prepared for trial. They went over and overall the happened, minute by minute. They interviewed, re interviewed witnesses. Poured over the physical evidence. They examined, in minute detail, laras six our convention. In short, he had been read his rights. You do have the right to remain silent the detectives even want the extra mile, and read him his consulate writes, though he was a permanence, legal, u. S. Resident. He was born in honduras. [inaudible] at this time . No. It was quite a bit later that they discovered, one video had been overlooked somehow. It didnt turn out for months. Mind you, it didnt exactly jump out, what lara said, off camera, almost as a side is my lawyer almost here . No, thats your right to request a lawyer. Okay. So when you get phone call, you can request a lawyer. And that was it. The moment passed. Lara, though entitled phone calls, did not ask again, and did not phone anyone. So, there was a hearing. The judge listened to Defense Arguments that the moment laura asked about a lawyer, he invoked his right to counsel. And all question shouldve stopped. And tossed out at one laras confession, every word. Wow, that has to be a bad day. It was. It was so hard. Hard to take. Very hard to take. Its something were going to live with, and we do live with, every day with our lives. Until the time that they put me under the grass, im gonna have a hard, hollow heart. Well, there was other evidence, besides his confession. Like kayleighs purse and shoes, and that rock covered in her blood, all found in laras backyard shed. And kayleighs blood inside his Security Company car, and on her Body Evidence that she fought hard to survive. She left behind evidence that was incredibly damning. She had his dna under his fingernails. Investigators encourage the da do not lose faith, push ahead. They said, look, we got this. Sure. We can do it. We have the evidence. If we thought it was a Death Penalty case before, there is no reason to back down now. Except, then everything changed. Again. Coming up pow disorder in the court. And a phone call with a killer. Well, hang on a second you have to explain that to me a little bit. What are you suggesting . When dateline continues datel vo welcome to lobsterfest. Is your party ready . Ready to attack this new lobster shrimp stack . Ready for your lobster lovers dream to come true . Theyre two of ten lobster creations, only at lobsterfest. Plus, cheddar bays for days. But lobsterfest wont last, so hurry in. Oh what a good time we will have you. Can make it happen. Try Dietary Supplements from voltaren for healthy joints. Shingles. Some describe it as pulsing electric shocks or sharp, stabbing pains. This painful, blistering rash can disrupt your life for weeks. A pain so intense, you could miss out on family time. The virus that causes shingles is likely already inside of you. If youre 50 years or older, ask your doctor or pharmacist about shingles. She looked like a really nice girl. She did not deserve what i did to her. Edwin lara told the whole story, how little, if anything, back. And not a word of it would be heard by any jury, at anytime. Inadmissible so as prosecutors prepared, even without that confession, to ask a jury to give him the Death Penalty, his defense team asked for a meeting with the da and made an offer. He would plead guilty, and agreed to a sentence of life without parole. But would kayleighs family go for that . A retired judge sat down with the mother, and told her that the jury conviction that the result would most certainly be. He explained to me, what happens in a Death Penalty case. And the appeals. As long as hes living on death row, i would be to. Not a choice. Yeah. I wouldve had to show up to every appeal. And so, Family Members stuff down their grief and anger and said, make the deal. On the january day of 2018, judgment day arrived for edwin lara. The courtroom was packed. The first row filled shoulder to shoulder with members of the Major Crimes Team. Scattered in the gallery behind, kayleighs large extended family, and many friends. Her boyfriend, cam. At the defendants table, edwin lara. Finally, also in the courthouse that day, that young woman lara was charged with kidnapping during his getaway, aundreah maes. This was the first time i saw him since everything happened. It was just hard even sitting there because i could see him trying to look over here. It was something in the air that day. You have no idea how much irreversible damage this piece of [bleep] has done to my extended family. Im going to fill his carcass full of lead. How finally, it was time for edwin lara to speak. What could he say . Oh boy. God almighty, i will ask you please. Heal the hearts. All the broken hearts. [inaudible] quite thoroughly disgusted, stormed out the courtroom. I ask you, please, heal the hearts of this family. I felt like it was staged. In retrospect, i wish i had the courage to stand up and tell them to turn around because all those people had to sit there and watch that happen. That show and make kayleigh rest in peace. The death sentence, even if they carried it out, wouldve been too quick for him. He is going to die a lot slower death. You may recall lara, right after his capture, asked if he could call the media. An honest desire to explain . Hello . We were skeptical. So, in may 2019, we called his bluff. I understand youve been wanting to tell your story for sometime. But was he serious about explaining himself . No. Instead, lara floated a strange little Conspiracy Theory about his Bank Statements. Yeah, i wish they wouldve gotten my statement. My Bank Statements every time i stayed in salem, oregon. I wish they wouldve gotten that, but they never did. Right now, im frustrated when it comes down to it. At this point, i dont have anything to say. Hang on a second. Youve gotta explain that to me a little bit. What are you suggesting . Well, once they look into it, but we able to figure it out. Figure out what . Theres a lot of things. Right now, i dont have anything to say. And with that, laras conversation with us was over. Of course, we checked and of course, his Bank Statements, like Everything Else about him, had been examined and infinite detail and there was just nothing to look at there. And a little charade in our phone call who knows why. But with the edwin lara sentenced and safely tucked away in prison, did kayleighs family simply turn the page . Oh no. Not even close. And lara still had to answer for one more thing what he did to aundreah maes. 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Kayleighs family was not alone crime committed while on the job as a captain Security Officer was aided and a abetted by the Community Colleges that procured and provided and patrol car with the cage. The props he used, when he kidnapped and killed kayleigh. Da john humble Central Oregon Community College bear some responsibility for her death. They bear a lot of responsibility for her death. Why . Because it turned out that, as a campus Security Guard, lara had underground no background check. No psychological tests, and none of the training required of real Police Officers in oregon. And yet, cocc had allowed its uniformed officers to make arrests, and traffic stops, and to investigate crimes, actions that the da and other law officers had repeatedly demanded the college stopped. Even before kayleighs murder. How did they react to these demands . They would say that they think they are legally allowed to do it. Kayleighs family filed a civil rights lawsuit against Central Oregon Community College. Do you solemnly swear depositions were taken of the Campus Security director, laras boss, who had overseen many changes. When you first arrived here, did safety officers carry handcuffs . They did not. And why edwin laras revealed about his behavior prior to the murder was horrifying. Hes like, oh, here, look at this fellow Security Officers testified one by one, how he showed them pornographic videos, starring himself. How hed sense Inappropriate Text Messages to showcasing his obsession with dead bodies. And more. His behavior changed so much so that i felt like i was trapped families attorney, tim williams he had physically pinned a female cadet, within the building of cps, and forced her to reveal her religious beliefs in great detail. Those are the behaviors of the phrase red flag was invented for, it seems to me. That was our understanding as well. They were disturbing depositions. And julie, somehow sat through everyone. It was really hard because at the end of these depositions, they all asked to come and Say Something to me. They would have tears in their eyes, and a lot of them just kept apologizing. I couldve asked them, at that point, you know, why didnt you Say Something. But then i saw the hurt and the guilt in their eyes, and i didnt want to add, i didnt want to add to that. The college, for its part, admitted no wrongdoing. But agreed to a 2 Million Dollar settlement with kathys family, the maximum allowed by law in oregon. The college declined our request for an interview. But issued a statement, saying, in part, co cc sends our deepest sympathies to the family and friends of Kaylee Sawyer. And, noting its commitment to safety, the college then listed it changed its made since her death. Including altering vehicles and uniforms, discontinuing the use of handcuffs and implementing background checks and criminal history checks for officers. Its because of kayleigh that that campus is safe, and that makes me feel good. But was the family done . Oh no. Were gonna go ahead and call the Senate Judiciary committee they pushed organs later to legislature too pass kayleighs law to require background checks on Security Officers, and to implement a host of other safety checks. In 2019, kayleighs law was signed into law by oregon governor. Kate brown. In the height of their tragedy, kaleighs family stepped up and said, were going to make sure that no young person has to go through what our daughter did. But there was still the matter of that other woman, who went through her own hell with laura, andrea mays. How would hed hunted her, caught her, terrorized her. It was like something out of a horror movie, which he endured, said one prosecutor. Sometimes it all overwhelmed her. There is days when i wake up, and i really just dont want to talk to anybody. I do not want to do anything. And so, she waited more than a year to make her case make its way through the legal system. Aundreah fronted over whether or not to be in federal court, when lara was finally sentence for kidnapping and terrorizing her. Whether to face him, whether to Say Something. But then, in 2019, at the courthouse in eugene, oregon, there she was. I just didnt want to look back, ten years from now, and regret not coming or not saying anything. And so she summoned up every ounce of courage that she could and said her piece to his face. No cameras in this courtroom, so she told us what she said to him. In court. Im not a victim, im a survivor. Im a warrior. I defeated him. And im truly blessed. For his crimes against aundreah, a federal judge handed a laura another life prison sentence. Lara also agreed to plead guilty to a host of california charges, related to his crime spree. Laras wife, isabelle, who was never charged with any wrongdoing, filed for divorce, resigned from the Police Department and moved away. Perhaps, this is sad for the madness of such a terrible story. Aundreah has struck up a relationship with kaleighs father, jamie, and the family. Its been good for them and good for her. We will look for kayleighs. Yeah. In the years following her death, kellys grandparents visited the library. Oh, here it is. Her grandma read books to kayleigh. Now memorialized on the sidewalk. Kayleigh love you. Love you, baby girl. Her family has its ways of coping, and whos to say was the right way. Maybe julies. Now that the court cases depositions and lawsuits are finally over. Every morning, i wake up and i love her more and more each day, just like i did when she was here. You know, i have gotten to that point sometimes, when i look at a picture and i smile and im so glad for that because, for 23 years, nothing made me smile more than my daughter. My daugh. [music playing] hello, im Andrea Canning, old soul, a beautiful soul. Hello, im Andrea Canning and this is dateline. I believe he is an old soul. A beautiful soul. I know he is my son, but he was the kindest person i ever met. He was definitely gods gift to