rockefeller christmas tree have been on for just over an hour, which means the christmas season is now officially underway. 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. our with stephanie ruhle starts now >> >> tonight, donald trump's banker takes the stand. what she said about deutsche bank long relationship with the trump organization in the civil fraud trial. and what is next for the israel-hamas war? after a new group of hostages were released from gaza, including one american. then setting the record straight on the former presidents campaign claims, while the current president hits the road and draws a direct contrast with maga republicans, as the 11th hour gets underway on this wednesday night. good evening once again. i'm stephanie ruhle. we have got a lot to get to. on donald trump's civil fraud trial and efforts to extend the temporary israel-hamas truce. but first, this evening's broadcast begins with breaking news. former secretary of state national security adviser henry kissinger has died at the age of 100. kissinger shaped decades of america's foreign policy, advising a dozen presidents while defining this nation's role on the global stage. but kissinger was also a controversial and deeply divisive figure. and we seize lester holt takes a look back at his life and his legacy. >> thank you. nice to see you. while >> he was brilliant, ambitious, controversial, and one of the most influential secretaries of state in american history. >> i think we made further progress. >> henry kissinger served richard nixon, gerald ford, and was consulted by presidents of both parties and international issues throughout his life. >> henry kissinger has been a friend of mine. >> messenger nixon made him a national figure and together they reimagine he was foreman possibly, they turn with the soviet union, shuttle diplomacy in the middle east. kissinger helped shaped nixon's policy in vietnam, and negotiated an end to the war. famously he declared success prematurely, just days before the 1972 election. >> we believe that peace is at hand. >> he was awarded the nobel peace prize. >> nothing that has happened to me in public life has moved me more than this award. >> though he's co-recipient, north of vietnam's leitao, declined the honor. four years later, president ford awarded him the medal of freedom. he was a master of pragmatic big picture diplomacy, but he had his critics, who described him as manipulative and in secure. some called him a war criminal for his role in bombing cambodia and widening the war in vietnam. born in germany in 1923, kissinger's jewish family fled to america as hitler rose to power. it became a u.s. citizen, served in world war ii, and earned a ph.d. at harvard, where he became a professor. he caught the eye of richard nixon, who made him national security adviser, then secretary of state. the only person ever to hold both jobs simultaneously. >> there is no country in the world where it is conceivable that a man of my origins could be standing here makes to the president of the united states. [applause] >> but their relationship was complicated, and white house tapes revealed kissinger sometimes enabled the worst in nixon. >> it was very curious relationship because we were not personally very close. >> the night before he resigned in disgrace, nixon asked kissinger to kneel and pray with him. >> and of course it was a crushing event, but i think that evening is an experience of dignity and very moving. >> kissinger is one of faceless bureaucrat. he was a world renowned celebrity. >> i love your for an accent. >> and he loved the spotlight. he was even something of a pop culture icon. after leaving government, he opened his own consulting firm, remaining active in sought after four decades. and 95, eulogizing john mccain 's life, kissinger sounded a wistful note about his own. >> like most people of my age, i feel a longing for what is lost and cannot be restored. >> henry kissinger was a man of great accomplishment and controversy. but as he once told nbc's barbara walters, he had no regrets. >> if i had to do it over again, i would do it again, substantially the same way, which may make me on reconstructed, and maybe one reason why i'm at peace with myself. >> lester holt, nbc news, new york. >> thanks to lester holt for that report. meanwhile it was also a crucial day for donald trump's new york fraud trial. a trial that poses a lethal threat to his business because this was the day that the spotlight shifted to the real money behind his fortune. former deutsche bank executive, rosemarie viropa like, who we have never seen, have never heard from, was on the witness stand testifying about how she arranged hundreds of millions of dollars in loans for trump starting back in 2011 when deutsche bank was the only financial institution would do business with him. some of his major real estate moves in florida, chicago, d.c., and new york. the attorney general accuses donald trump of inflating his net worth to get those loans and more faith favorable rates and he should have. but the relationship between deutsche bank it on trump's back decades. how one reporter who knows trump well described it. >> deutsche bank has been involved with donald trump since the 1980s, starting with 40 wall street. it was the first loan that they extended to him in 2008 they got into a huge fight with him over the chicago loan, to the point where don't from sue them in the middle of the financial crisis. the bank was so upset at the time that they said we are never doing this with you again. there's were so burned that this customer would sue them that they just said forget it and then on behold three years later another arm of the bank looking for profit, looking for a customer or the way it was put today got back into bed with him. >> that will comment refers to an email that rosemary vrablic wrote to her colleagues bag it deutsche bank when she was trying to win this business. as she put it back then, quote, we are whale hunting, mean meaning that was on for a high net worth clients. with that, let's get smarter with our lead off panel. we've got a great. when lisa rubin who was in the courthouse today, our nbc legal analyst, pulitzer prize-winning writer for the washington post, undated in, rich business investigations editor for the new york times. there's about the only reason he is. here he is the author of dark towers, deutsche bank, donald trump, and an epic trail of destruction. david, there's no one better to talk about this with the new. rosemary vrablic, and i am passionate about it because there were to that bank for eight years. let's talk about this whale hunting expeditions she was on. it is true, private well client services, that's what they do. they look for a big high net worth clients. but once they find them, there are rules and regulations around serious due diligence to find out if these whales, or just a bunch of blubber or if there is real meat and business to do. how on earth could she sit on the stand and say we were looking for these big clients went three years prior the institutional side of the bank sent him packing. >> yeah, and one of the things i found a little disappointing about her testimony today, we did not get an answer from for that very important question that you and i have been asking each other for years now and i think the closest we got to an explanation was a deutsche bank wise crazy with greed and was desperate to grow. they saw trump as not only a lucrative potential client but also as this keith would introduce the bank, which was trying to make a -- he would introduce the bank to some of the other wealthiest people and wealthiest families in the world. but to me that is still not a complete or satisfactory explanation for why they were willing to overlook his long history of default, and if someone else just said, lawsuits against the very same bank. and i found that trump's lawyers in by the state of the questions to be just scratching the surface, honestly. it made me wish that i were a lawyer who had rosemary vrablic under oath, which is something i've long dreamed of. >> me too. lisa, you are in the courtroom, under david and i. i mean speak for both of us. we have been dying to speak to this woman for the last six years and we have a laundry list of questions, most of which weren't asked. but for you, what stood out today? >> one of the things that stood out to me was just how tourists and not forthcoming she was as a witness, to the extent of the trump defense got anything from rosemary vrablic, it was really through her documents and not through her testimony in south. she really didn't add very much to her testimony other than confirming or reiterating the things that she said in emails that were sent to her. that said, she gave up some stuff on cross examination. that cross-examination was not his detailed or as withering as i expected to be, but she explained that she did not have any idea what the due diligence that deutsche bank did consisted of. why? because she is principally a relationship manager, kind of client services person whose job principally was to ensnare the whales and then to cross sell to them, which is to get them to invest liquid assets or bring in other clients in addition to establishing a lending relationship with down. so i thought on balance she was not particularly helpful to the trump defense and, if anything, was slightly helpful to the attorney general in establishing how much she didn't know as opposed to establishing that this was a big no harm no foul, which is what the trump line of defense has been. deutsche bank wasn't hurt, they made money throughout the relationship, it was lucrative for them. the attorney general's response to that is, it doesn't matter that they were a so-called happy lender if the statute was violated in the markets were corrupted. >> david, what do you think about that fact? she is basically saying, i never looked under the hood to see what his finances were, and no one else in the institution did. think about how highly regulated the banking industry wise and deutch is like, he was a big flashy name and we were down with that. >> well i think in fairness there were other people at the institution. some of the more revealing elements of her testimony was that she said i didn't look at in the hood but she also knew that she was willing to learn to him without any personal guarantee from him. ultimately the bank decided, before it cut off business with him altogether, that it would be willing to make hundreds of millions of dollars in loans to him on the condition that he would put his personal guarantee. in other words his personal assets would be held as collateral against loans. to me that does indicate that even though rosemary vrablic and her direct bosses were not being terribly careful here, at least some other people in the bank were, and surely that was in part because they had memories of just a few years earlier when trump had decided to not pay back the loan in the turn around and sue the bank. >> right in the middle of the financial crisis. carol, this woman was not just on trump's banker. she was also jared kushner's banker, lending hundreds of millions of dollars to his business. then of course storm trump becomes president, jared becomes a senior adviser. doesn't all of this speak to how tangled this family is with one another in all aspects of their lives? >> absolutely. i think thanks to a lot of dave's reporting, frankly, we know a little more about how careless deutsche bank was in terms of basically how do we make the most money and we don't really care that much how. being with somebody flashy includes a presidential candidate but also a guy who's putting his name on towers all over the world and i think most interesting you will see the nexus that you focused on so often in your program between deutsche bank and host of other foreign countries, interesting ones, where jared kushner and donald trump seemed to have some powerful relationships as well. let's talk about deutsche bank and its relationship with the kremlin. let's talk about deutsche bank's work all over germany. let's talk about how jared kushner was trying to get money in a lot of different countries from a lot of different sovereign some south. it's just unfortunately as steve said if we were reporters who were in that room and able to ask the questions, we will try to figure out a lot more than even laetitia james was trying to learn, or the donald trump's defense lawyers were trying to bring out. we want to know so what did you get for that, and whose special access money was funding some of the deals in some of the towers? how did donald trump, with almost no real assets, not being a billionaire, how is he able to pull off some of this work with your health? this is a tiny window, unsatisfying. unfortunately i think even to your question, it's unsatisfying because we don't really have a great grasp of the interconnection of jarred, his family, his finances, and all the trump money as well. >> okay then my last question on this topic, david, because they want you to explain to our audience how unusual her relationship with with kushner and trump. rosemary, in 2013, once personally bought an apartment with two of her deutsche bank colleagues with a company partially owned by kushner while the bank was loaning him hundreds of millions of dollars. this raises so many red flags and clear conflict of interest, yet it happened. >> not only did it happen, it wasn't even reported internally at the bank until my colleague jesse drunker and i heard about this years after the fact. this speaks very clearly to the lack of internal controls and proper procedures that were going on. it makes a lot easier to understand the air in aggregate how a bank with that kind of sloppiness, recklessness, and lending to trump, and kushner's in the first place. >> tower of terror. all right, new topic, carol. we have to talk about liz cheney's book, coming out next week. she is warning about what to trump's second term would look like. she and the book with a very ominous quote where she says, every one of us, republican, democrat, independent, must work and vote together to ensure the donald trump and those who have appeased, enabled, and collaborated with him, are defeated. this is the cause of our time. i mean, just reading that gives me the chills. it's going to resonate with a lot of people, that anyone who isn't already aware of who donald trump in the risks that he poses, anybody knew? >> now, i think that liz cheney's book has a lot of interesting revelations about her time in the cause, that she has basically taken on, the work that she is championing. she believes donald trump is a threat to our democracy. it's not a big stretch to say that, given what donald trump has been saying that he's going to do if he's reelected. he's going to weaponize the department of justice to go after his political enemies, pretty much eviscerating the central core of our country's founding principles. one of the surely disappointing realizations that liz cheney must be coming to is that while she feels strongly, passionately about this, and she led, in many ways, the january 6th committee to focus almost exclusively on the risk to donald trump posed, she has seen one after another fellow republican come forward and say we cannot reelect this person, and yet that's not making a dent in his poll numbers. that's not changing how a host of conservative members of the public feel about donald trump, that he is their savior, that he speaks for them and that he says things out loud that they feel have been basically tamped down. their values are upheld by him. even when that's not true, that's what they say they believe. it's not merely making a change, what liz cheney says on the book circuit. as chilling as it may be for many of us to hear her say it. >> and of course polls 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>> so this policy, in addition to being kind of morally egregious, and we something that would be inherently roughly inflationary. you have such a shortage of labor, and we move down to raise prices for people across this country. there wouldn't be enough people to do these jobs. we see, as a result of, that less demand for goods and services. so all of that would compound and it would be an incredibly difficult thing for the country to go through. so much of what donald trump has done and proposed lacks nuance. the case all the economic plans in which were put in place and integration is one facet of it. tax cuts is another again that with that nuance across the board in a way that in terms of growth and death. and then trade policy, as well. he's proposed across the board 10% tariff on all imports. that is inflationary as well. >> i want to stay on that for a second. he's got this idea that people here. he's gonna put this 10% tariff on all foreign made goods. do people not realize that that would obviously raise prices? when donald trump was making shirts and shoes and everything else he produced, he made all that stuff overseas because he knew that you can make it and sell at the cheapest. >> absolutely. that's the motivating philosophy behind it and what he is proposing here, again, across the board tariffs, not to target any particular industries. we saw this during the first term, we saw him target soybeans, veal, and all along he maintained that the american people weren't going to bear the brunt of those tariffs. again this is a blunt a nuanced approach to trade, and is a result of this we would see higher prices on all of these goods. we would see more inflation. going back to what you said a moment ago, the economic policy that he's talking about here kind of forget the fact that we have been through this unprecedented mass pandemic and had such dislocating effect not just on the u.s. economy but economies around the world hard to ignore that and hard to ignore the progress we've made this scene this country in other countries make in the last few years. the u.s. has done better than a lot of western economies and reacting to inflation is not happening just in the u.s. but around the world. >> do you think people realize that? as we all face the pandemic the united states came out of the pandemic from an economic perspective faster and stronger than almost any country out there. >> i don't think everyone understands that. i went to a conference in new york today, and the vice president kamala harris is one of people can be interviewed during the course of the event today. he kind of asked her about this disconnect between economic progress this country has made and seen over the last few years, and how americans feel about the economy. what she said in response to that was so fascinating to me because i think it's the heart of what we are talking about here. that is, we're talking about macro in the economic indicators. there are real signs of progress we have seen. employment, unemployment, incredibly low, we've seen strong growth, inflation coming down significantly from a year, two years ago. but it doesn't connect she said, with a heart, experience, and feelings of the american mp people. i thought it was a will crystallized we've saying this. it gives us the contours of the challenges this administration is going to face. and xi and president biden when they came pentress to show the case and it might not be manifest, all things are pretty expensive, but let's step back and look at the progress from a year two years ago. >> then you mentioned the deal, i'm not gonna let you leave unless we talk about this interview that took place today between andrew ross sorkin and elon musk. andrew asked musk about this advertiser purge that they had been facing, really since he bought the company. so many big advertisers have left the platform, and recently even more have, given conspiracy theories and potentially antisemitic things that he has re-posted. it's really put the company in a box. yet here is what he said when he was asked about it. >> this had been sent online, it was all of the criticism, there was advertisers. >> i hope they stop. >> you? >> don't advertise. >> you don't have to advertise? >> now. >> what do you mean? >> if somebody's gonna try to blackmail me with advertising, like meal is money. go [bleep] yourself. go [bleep] yourself. is that clear? [laughter] i hope it is. >> hey bob? he's talking to bob iger, waving in bob iger, when the person sitting the front row with his ceo, linda yaccarino, who i am guessing wasn't chuckling. what in the world is going on? when an advertiser decides to pull from a platform, it's not blackmail. they are simply saying, we don't want to do business with you. full stop. they have that right. >> of course. and this is just one example of companies in recent days, but being in that room it was such a startling moment. yes, it was clear, but as andrew pointed out, linda yaccarino right there in the front row. what really stood out to me beside the fact that he came in roaring in that bomber jacket with the first caller was how he was talking about the end of twitter and really concrete way. he is alluded to this before, but the point he was making is you can see all of these advertisers leave. that would result in x or twitter resumes dissolve your falling apart. he was confident that people using the platform when blame the advice for leaving. but this was a long, 80 plus long interview that elon musk did with andrew ross sorkin, it was a crazy wave of emotion, started out with a bold statement by him left everybody flummoxed, everybody craning their necks to see linda yaccarino. right off the stage. and completely bizarre is that he began talking about a.i. and his recent trip to israel and how he's trying to rectify this. it left from being a forceful at the top to leap to where things stand with the company. speaking in concrete terms here about the end of twitter. again, this company that he purchased for more than 40 billion dollars. also, starting to the interview, by saying to andrew, he only sat down with him because they were friends and then called him john. david -- always great to see you. jonathan, excuse me. when we come back, a very, very important story to get off on a push to extend the cease-fire between israel and hamas. all while a second american hostage has been released. we're gonna get into it with jeremy bash, when the 11th hour continues. hou continues. that orders fresh beans for you. oh, genius! for more breakthroughs like that- i need a breakthrough card. like ours! with 2.5% cash back on purchases of $5,000 or more. plus unlimited 2% cash back on all other purchases. and with greater spending potential, sam can keep making smart ideas- a brilliant reality! the ink business premier card from chase for business. make more of what's yours. struggling with the highs and lows of bipolar 1? 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i mean, the families of those hostages are praying for it. >> i do expect that because i think this truce has worked for both sides. israel has gotten hostages back and has calmed a son of the internal discontent about the way the netanyahu government has handled the hostage matter. and hamas, has obviously won the ability to re-arm, to refuel, to reposition. and to gain strength as they think about future combat against israel. so, oddly enough, this truce has worked for both sides. i will say, stephanie, i spent some time today with the families of those eight american hostages. and by the way, i just want to mention their first names. because they are real people. the real americans, -- and these are american citizens who have been held by hamas for more than 52 days and of course there was the release of one american today, -- that filed the release of four-year-old abigail -- over last weekend. but what these families have endured is a living hell, it is a nightmare. this isn't just a prisoner of war situation, where some foreign countries and foreign gove hold somebody in a person, we know there, whereabouts we know their health status. there is no information about these individuals. no proof of life. no sense of their well being. no international red cross visits. this is an unprecedented situation for the american people, for the u.s. government to have this many american hostages held for this long without any sense of their well-being or their whereabouts. >> how confident are you that the u.s. can secure their safe return? 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in lauren boebert's backyard. someone barely got reelected in 2022. >> this is the type of naming and shaming that i want more of stephanie. i appreciated that he crossed himself for protection, when he started. but also that he went in on the successes that democrats deliver, calling boebert out by name and how unhelpful she was in all of. this and, the best part about him being on the ground and district, is that this is going to have local uphill. it's gonna be on local news stations. it's gonna be on local papers. and in local conversations, for weeks to come. of president biden directly called out lauren boebert. and, i think that's where the stickiness of the message is going to have an impact in 2024. because, as you mention, stephanie, boebert barely won reelection. i think the margin was 0.2%. it went to a recount, and we know she's facing a challenge again in 2024. and, so this is something that is going to be instrumental there. and, i want biden to go on a road show for the next 11 months, doing the same exact thing, a congressional district, battleground states across the country. because this is how you sell your message to voters. i need more of it. >> matthew, i feel like you have been saying that biden and the white house should be doing this for the last few months. because, we all know this. despite voting against this law, republicans are happy to take credit for funding in their districts. yes, i, mean i agree with juanita. i wish they do this seven times a week. i think, what it does, is that it presents the campaign, not as a referendum on joe biden but as a contrast between what the republican stand for and what the democrats and joe biden stand for. and, that's -- he said it himself, it's basically between confidence and we get things done for you versus this crazy maga movement. and, anytime you could highlight somebody like lauren boebert, and i agree with juanita, i love the fact that they made the sign of the cross like if she was some sort of empire, is that he had to protect himself from in the course of this. that anytime he can do that, and highlight people like her, marjorie taylor greene, i would say george santos. but george santos expiration date maybe past due. so, he may not be available in this. i think it's a smart. move i, think the entire campaign has to fundamentally between via contrast, between via crazy incompetence, between maga movement, and what democracy stands for. and this is a good start. >> juanita, we know in this country especially during the pandemic the rich got richer, the poor cop or. and, as problematic as inflation is, it's the toughest on poor americans. the president today made sure to point out that poor areas in our country have seen the most fun doing from the inflation reduction act. how important is that message? >> it's critical. and i, think telling that message, repeatedly, especially when they start to feel the impact of these, funds and these investment, it's going to bridge the gap of what we're saying. what people are saying. and while you're doing all these things. the economy is functioning in a way. but, i don't feel it. and, so until that personal feeling kicks in, this type of explanation is going to have to be clear and repetitive. and i, think this is a drum that democrats are going to need to beat, online, on social media, on ads, across commercials to get in front of people in addition to these presidential visit. because they need to hear it in order to understand it so that when it does start to take home when those hundreds of jobs start to come, and when those investments start to hit their communities, they know exactly who to think and they know what to be looking for on the signals on how will impact them directly. >> all right, matt, it's your fault. i wasn't going to bring him up. but you did. george santos. he is facing an expulsion -- of course i was bring him up. an expulsion vote, on friday. and, to many of us, surprisingly, speaker mike johnson has actually said that he has real reservations about it. what do you think about that? >> well, you know, it's amazing to me. i mean, first of all when you gave truth serum to every single republican in the congress, they want santa's gone. they want him gone, because he's nothing but an albatross around their neck. i mean, the longer he steams around, the worse for governance but the better for the democrats running for -- trying to take the house back in the course of. this all of them want him gone. it's amazing, to me, that he says it's a bad precedent to get rid of a guy who has been indicted on numerous felonies, who everyone knows, including people in his own caucus has makes stuff up, lies, all of this stuff, shouldn't be in congress. so, you know, the president, i think the bad precedent would be not removing. him but i think the democrats, the longer this goes, the better for democrats in the course of this. but, speaker johnson, ought to know better and if he went off the, record with speaker johnson, speaker johnson, i'm sure want george santos gone. >> okay, off the record on the record if the behavior that was laid out in this ethics report against santos does not earn him an expulsion, juanita, would anything be enough? >> i, mean i feel like that's the same question i asked on a, trump right? what is enough for republicans? and, in this case, it seems like more republicans are ready to get rid of santos. i think, the quote of the day that really struck me was that santos is toast. and that came from his own conference colleagues. i do think that republicans are projecting that, what, about 120 of them are planning to vote to expel santos at this point? largely based on that ethics report. even though, santos seems to be pretty delusional about what's happening here, claiming in a floor statement earlier this week that people are doing this because they don't like it. you know, forget about those 23 federal criminal charges, and this ridiculous ethics report that talked about his purchases from everything from botox to -- all of it is laid out. the evidence is clear. this man's unhinged. , and he needs to be handled. because, as my grandmother would, say when someone lies through their teeth, you know they're not worth a dime. >> well, there you go. the difference between george santos and donald trump, probably all sorts of elected republicans can't stand trump either but they don't want to lose those base voters. juanita tolliver, matthew dowd, always great to see both. and, juanita, fabulous christmas tree. i know matthew got his up early. but, man, really. >> it's beautiful! very christmas! >> it is. when we come back -- speaking of christmas trees, the 91 year tradition happening at 30 rock tonight, the best of the best. we're going to unwrap some of the most beautiful holidays spirit when the 11th hour continues. continues. introducing ned's plaque psoriasis. 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